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| 04:12.37 | xiangfu | !tweet @qihardware Ben NanoNote oscsend message to @milkymistjv http://jirkasnotes.wordpress.com/2012/01/19/playing-with-milkymist/ |
| 04:12.37 | qi-bot | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:13.01 | qi-bot | Qi Hardware: @qihardware <xiangfu> Ben NanoNote oscsend message to @milkymistjv http://t.co/7lPhvZ1L ( 186305038984036354@qihardware - 24s ago via qi-bot ) |
| 05:29.54 | kristianpaul | he, i even dint knew about oscsend on the ben |
| 05:55.41 | xiangfu | kristianpaul, I have a typo again. :( milkymistvj not milkymistjv |
| 06:05.41 | kristianpaul | what is the admin account good for? :) |
| 06:10.21 | xiangfu | kristianpaul, have you upload the bitstream somewhere? https://github.com/kristianpaul/milkyminer |
| 06:10.36 | xiangfu | kristianpaul, we should setup the milkyminer under build ost. |
| 06:10.39 | xiangfu | s/ost/host |
| 06:10.39 | qi-bot | xiangfu meant: "kristianpaul, we should setup the milkyminer under build host." |
| 06:12.49 | kristianpaul | build not need.. yet but should be fast |
| 06:13.00 | kristianpaul | and no i dont uploaded it, but i could |
| 06:13.09 | kristianpaul | give me some minutes |
| 06:13.34 | xiangfu | doing ' make -C boards/milkymist-one/flash/' |
| 06:16.16 | kristianpaul | too |
| 06:23.05 | xiangfu | 'FATAL_ERROR:XdmHelpers:Xdh_LibLoader.c:116:1.8 - Failed to open library' |
| 06:27.19 | kristianpaul | hmm? |
| 06:28.29 | kristianpaul | what branch? |
| 06:28.35 | kristianpaul | master should work at 50568adbaf857fc8086126cd679f12e22a138bef |
| 06:35.12 | xiangfu | kristianpaul, missing 'build' dir under ./boards/milkymist-one/synthesis |
| 06:35.37 | xiangfu | kristianpaul, would you mind add me to milkyminer? |
| 06:36.19 | kristianpaul | how? |
| 06:36.24 | kristianpaul | lets see |
| 06:37.08 | xiangfu | maybe my ISE problem. anyway I already start build under buildhost. :) |
| 06:37.27 | kristianpaul | done |
| 06:37.31 | kristianpaul | no no |
| 06:37.35 | kristianpaul | not you problem |
| 06:37.40 | kristianpaul | missing folder i think |
| 06:39.19 | xiangfu | kristianpaul, http://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/build-milkymist/curr.build.milkyminer.log |
| 06:41.35 | kristianpaul | ok done |
| 06:41.38 | kristianpaul | http://kristianpaul.org/~paul/tmp/milkyminer.fpg |
| 06:42.40 | kristianpaul | hmm |
| 06:42.56 | kristianpaul | just remener the initial port is hackish not a SoC it self |
| 06:43.08 | kristianpaul | just a cuted version of Icarus |
| 06:43.28 | kristianpaul | soc branch will be more like a soc, but still some work to do.. |
| 06:43.56 | kristianpaul | ergh, forgot push it.. |
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| 06:44.47 | GitHub28 | [milkyminer] kristianpaul created soc (+1 new commit): https://github.com/kristianpaul/milkyminer/commit/7b4fa17 |
| 06:44.47 | GitHub28 | [milkyminer/soc] Initial SoC skeleton - Cristian Paul Peñaranda Rojas |
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| 06:45.22 | kristianpaul | xiangfu: so i doubt if this will build as a legacy milkymist soc (current master branch) |
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| 06:48.18 | xiangfu | let wait the build host result |
| 06:50.57 | kristianpaul | oh, is still building? :) |
| 06:53.48 | kristianpaul | off |
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| 10:34.28 | DocScrutinizer | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-source_hardware please fix M1 link, the blog doesn't return hits |
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| 10:50.56 | Martix | wolfspraul: hi |
| 10:51.37 | DocScrutinizer | Martix: hi |
| 10:51.40 | DocScrutinizer | go ahead |
| 10:52.30 | Martix | wolfspraul: I am organizing Openmobility conference 2012 at 21st April in Prague |
| 10:53.26 | Martix | wolfspraul: our program is almost full, but have free slot for another speak or workshop |
| 10:53.34 | Martix | wolfspraul: general info is here: http://www.openmobility.eu/conference/om2012/cfp |
| 10:54.12 | Martix | wolfspraul: we are looking for speaks/workshop about open & mobile platforms and Open Source Hardware |
| 10:54.35 | Martix | and Qi project is very interesting |
| 10:56.51 | DocScrutinizer | !seen wolfspraul |
| 10:56.51 | qi-bot | DocScrutinizer, please look a bit closer at the memberlist of this channel. |
| 10:56.58 | DocScrutinizer | ~seen wolfspraul |
| 10:57.01 | infobot | wolfspraul is currently on #qi-hardware (1d 7h 25m 1s). Has said a total of 4 messages. Is idling for 1d 7h 15m 55s, last said: 'I hope he makes it to this channel, that'd be cool'. |
| 10:59.02 | Martix | wolfspraul: DocScrutinizer anyway I added this channel to my favourites, but feel free to contact me via e-mail conference@openmobility.eu when I am offline, soon as possible :-) |
| 11:00.03 | Martix | and this is preliminary program: preliminary program: http://ukoly.openmobility.cz/projects/konference/wiki/2012_prednasky I want to finish it on Monday and officially publish |
| 11:01.59 | DocScrutinizer | haha, freenode rides DDOS attacks against own page, http://freenode.net/privacy_change.html doesn't respond |
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| 11:02.36 | DocScrutinizer | I'd guess it's an April's fool joke anyway |
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| 11:24.05 | wpwrak | DocScrutinizer: april 1st, worst day of the year for announcements of any kind ;-) |
| 11:24.23 | DocScrutinizer | [2012-04-01 13:11:01] <Martinp23> metaphysician: we can ddos ourselves thank you very much. |
| 11:24.25 | DocScrutinizer | [2012-04-01 13:11:03] <JonathanD> metaphysician: we're apparently quite good at DDOSing ourselves. |
| 11:25.02 | DocScrutinizer | the final stage put into effect at April 31. (SIC!) |
| 11:25.12 | Martix | wpwrak: yeah, I realized this after writing to wolfspraul |
| 11:25.13 | wpwrak | yeah, they got that bit wrong |
| 11:25.23 | wpwrak | ah yes, april 31 ;-) |
| 11:25.50 | DocScrutinizer | also comic sans in a jpg, WTF?! |
| 11:26.43 | DocScrutinizer | [2012-04-01 13:10:37] <Martinp23> dwfreed: apparently it was 4 seconds until the server was ddos'd, which was better than i expected |
| 11:27.34 | wpwrak | they forgot to provide a contact e-mail. shitstorm@freenode.net or such :) |
| 11:27.44 | DocScrutinizer | indeed |
| 11:28.17 | DocScrutinizer | for an april's fool it's just a tad too close to reality |
| 11:28.40 | DocScrutinizer | lots will take it for serious and quit the network |
| 11:29.04 | wpwrak | yeah. the long-time logs are a reality anyway :) |
| 11:33.23 | DocScrutinizer | my comment on #freenode: "DUH, I got all this on all of my channels since years!" |
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| 11:55.44 | wpwrak | exactly :) |
| 12:08.58 | wolfspraul | Martix: hi, welcome to Qi Hardware! |
| 12:09.03 | wolfspraul | it's always nice to see new faces... |
| 12:15.53 | Martix | wolfspraul: hi |
| 12:17.56 | Martix | wolfspraul: maybe, but not new in Openmoko community, I have Neo FreeRunner from 31st June 2008 and still use it as a the only phone :-) |
| 12:23.15 | wolfspraul | nice! |
| 12:29.34 | Martix | wolfspraul: did you read messages starting from [12:52] UTC+1? |
| 12:30.14 | Martix | actually UTC+2 (daylight saving) |
| 12:35.50 | wolfspraul | not really, something about an event in Prague |
| 12:36.07 | Martix | wolfspraul: TLDR: Do you have time on 21st April, can you visit Prague and have a talk or workshop on Qi Hardware and/or Openmoko? |
| 12:36.24 | wolfspraul | very unlikely :-) |
| 12:37.08 | wolfspraul | but thanks a lot for asking! |
| 12:37.19 | Martix | wolfspraul: how come? |
| 12:37.31 | wolfspraul | god there must be 10+ reasons at least :-) |
| 12:37.43 | wolfspraul | I'm super focused and concentrated right now and don't want to travel |
| 12:38.23 | wolfspraul | getting my daughter to sleep at night is priceless and you need something like a *really* big incentive to get me away from that |
| 12:38.36 | wolfspraul | I doubt you would be able to pay all the costs associated in getting me from Beijing to Prague |
| 12:38.50 | wolfspraul | and so on |
| 12:38.54 | Martix | oh, Beijing is too far :-) |
| 12:39.26 | wolfspraul | plus I don't like conferences, I like meetings where people do something, as opposed to talk |
| 12:39.50 | wolfspraul | but... you could send an email to the qi discussion list, we may have someone in Prague |
| 12:39.52 | Martix | you can do workshop :-) |
| 12:40.06 | Martix | ok, I'll send it tomorrow |
| 12:40.26 | wpwrak | conferences usually give you ideas. and you get to sample foreign beers. they're no waste of time :) |
| 12:40.54 | Martix | wpwrak: +1 |
| 12:40.59 | wolfspraul | I have no shortage of either new ideas or beers |
| 12:41.10 | Martix | preliminary program: http://ukoly.openmobility.cz/projects/konference/wiki/2012_prednasky |
| 12:41.16 | wolfspraul | but anyway, we can keep it short and efficient. there is no way I will be in Prague on April 21st |
| 12:41.30 | Martix | understood |
| 12:41.33 | wolfspraul | but It's great that you want something from Qi in the event |
| 12:43.25 | wolfspraul | he's in Czech I think, but not Prague http://jirkasnotes.wordpress.com/2012/01/16/milkymist-one/ |
| 12:43.55 | Martix | yeah Jirka is Czech name |
| 12:44.03 | wolfspraul | I have to reply to the guy who recently asked about the vienna open source days, urgh |
| 12:44.10 | wolfspraul | going backwards in my todo list as usual :-) |
| 12:44.32 | wolfspraul | in the end it comes down to how much effort you yourself are going to make |
| 12:45.12 | wolfspraul | a lot of conferences are run on the premise that there are many hungry marketing departments of large cash-rich tech corps out there looking for opportunities to show their skills |
| 12:45.33 | wolfspraul | so you ping them, then they check the cool factor, and if it's cool enough, they move their machine |
| 12:45.37 | wolfspraul | that is not going to happen with Qi |
| 12:46.35 | Martix | wolfspraul: do you have any contact on Jirka? |
| 12:46.45 | wolfspraul | can you contact him over his blog? |
| 12:47.13 | wolfspraul | he is a customer but for privacy reasons I cannot give you the contact info I got from there. I can google though, same as you. or go via the blog. |
| 12:47.42 | Martix | I can, but I would like to use more direct approach...googling anyway |
| 12:47.53 | wolfspraul | sorry this may appear so unfriendly, but I have to protect customer data, in fact I am deleting most of it as soon as I can :-) |
| 12:48.03 | Martix | I know :-) |
| 12:48.09 | wolfspraul | yes understand, well normally 100% of everything is open, but not that one |
| 12:48.32 | wolfspraul | there is an implicit confidentiality in a buyer-seller relationship |
| 12:48.37 | wolfspraul | but he is blogging :-) |
| 12:48.55 | wolfspraul | if the buyer wants to be open about what he bought, he will do so himself, as Jirka did |
| 12:49.49 | Martix | I found his last name inside sources hosted on github :-) |
| 12:50.02 | wolfspraul | if there would be a totally anonymous way to buy, then we could consider someone who is buying non-anonymously to implicitly accept that the transaction is (semi)public |
| 12:50.13 | wolfspraul | but there is not, and even if there were everybody would need to be aware of it |
| 12:50.16 | wolfspraul | so no |
| 12:50.21 | Martix | and I think, I know him from somewhere :-) |
| 12:50.31 | wolfspraul | unfortunately buying something and paying for it requires you to strip yourself quite a bit |
| 12:50.59 | Martix | what about using Bitcoins? |
| 12:51.00 | wolfspraul | not my system, but that's how it is. and then I cannot turn around and use that data, anywhere. it's unfair. |
| 12:51.06 | wolfspraul | sure I'm for it |
| 12:51.14 | wolfspraul | but then you still have the shipping address problem |
| 12:51.16 | wolfspraul | and returns/warranty |
| 12:51.34 | Martix | wolfspraul: understood :-) |
| 12:51.44 | wolfspraul | we have some customers who go pretty far on this |
| 12:51.56 | wolfspraul | they use pre-paid credit cards, and product delivered to one-time po boxes |
| 12:52.01 | wolfspraul | :-) |
| 12:52.14 | wolfspraul | but 99% will open up all their data as required by 'the system' |
| 12:52.30 | wolfspraul | and I will delete that asap... |
| 12:52.37 | wolfspraul | so yeah, I'm sure you will get in touch with him |
| 12:52.49 | Martix | thanks |
| 12:53.01 | wolfspraul | Martix: do you have a url for the event? |
| 12:53.22 | Martix | http://www.openmobility.eu/en/ |
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| 15:16.44 | jirkab | martix,wolfspraul: my email is "jirka (at) penguin (dot) cz", (jirkasnotes.wordpress.com) |
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| 16:25.15 | Ewan | DocScrutinizer: ls -l = dir /w/p |
| 16:25.17 | Ewan | :-D |
| 16:25.35 | Ewan | erm.. |
| 16:25.38 | Ewan | . /w |
| 16:25.42 | Ewan | hrhr |
| 16:26.28 | Ewan | so 'ls -l' = 'dir /p' |
| 16:26.53 | Ewan | OR ls -l = s |
| 16:28.04 | DocScrutinizer | wtf are you telling me? |
| 16:28.20 | Ewan | <DocScrutinizer> after all he didn't ask 'what means "ls -l"?' |
| 16:28.24 | Ewan | :-P |
| 16:28.42 | DocScrutinizer | *I* didn't ask either :-D |
| 16:30.14 | DocScrutinizer | and I still think "how to get console on Ben" is a valid question, unless console is what you got anyway after powerup |
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| 16:48.51 | Ewan | console is where you are, when you leave gmenu ;) |
| 16:53.39 | Ewan | console is latinotalk -> con sole = with sun |
| 16:53.57 | Ewan | it's a shiny place to manage computers |
| 16:53.58 | Ewan | :-D |
| 17:18.21 | kristianpaul | o sole mio? :) |
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| 17:40.45 | Ewan | yep :-d |
| 17:40.53 | Ewan | console mio |
| 17:43.56 | larsc | con mio sole? |
| 17:45.06 | Ewan | ti sole, mi sole, solo sei per tutti (frutti) :-D |
| 17:49.05 | viric | sole pizza amore... |
| 17:51.23 | Martix | jirkab: I already sent you an e-mail |
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| 18:40.58 | GNUtoo | hmmm |
| 18:51.39 | LunaVorax | Hello everyone |
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