| 00:01.40 | whitequark | anyone here knowledgeable about metalworking/welding? |
| 00:05.30 | whitequark | because I just tried to fix a metal thingy and failed miserably |
| 00:06.12 | whitequark | also found out that my butane torch has enough power to melt copper, but if it's at least a little bit less thick than the one I need |
| 00:40.36 | qi-bot | [commit] David Kühling: alpy: some more patching, make exmples python scripts work & package them (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/1353ef0 |
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| 01:32.01 | qi-bot | Jon Phillips: Via @qihardware qihardware: Video drones fly and hover above the city creating ad hoc networks in a new form of noma... http://t.co/kT9tUbSK ( 185539602306699264@rejon - 57s ago via Ping.fm ) |
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| 02:45.17 | kristianpaul | ergh i could reproduce that VID00003.MP4 file from rejon |
| 02:45.21 | kristianpaul | could not* |
| 02:48.24 | rejon | ok |
| 02:52.48 | kristianpaul | oh you here |
| 02:53.25 | kristianpaul | VID00002.MP4 seems ok, but the other well |
| 02:54.49 | rejon | ha |
| 02:54.57 | rejon | ok, I'll try a reupload of that file |
| 02:55.14 | kristianpaul | thanks ! |
| 02:55.49 | kristianpaul | ISO: Unknown File Type Major Brand: MSNV |
| 02:55.54 | kristianpaul | said mplayer |
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| 06:38.00 | DocScrutinizer | moos a little |
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| 08:59.14 | kyak | bartbes: just a version update (2.0.0 -> 2.0.2) |
| 09:00.27 | qi-bot | [commit] kyak: nightsky: fix build (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/a3d14a9 |
| 09:07.16 | qi-bot | [commit] Xiangfu: nanonote-files add more nanonote config files (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/1efced8 |
| 09:07.53 | kyak | bartbes: and yeah, nlove build is broken -\ |
| 09:12.04 | qi-bot | [commit] Xiangfu: nanonote optimize (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/a808dfa |
| 09:16.38 | kyak | xiangfu: btw, we don't have to do that.. If we have BUILD_NLS, uClibc is automatically compiled with locale support |
| 09:18.20 | xiangfu | kyak, ok. I don't know that. |
| 09:18.30 | xiangfu | so I will revert the code. thanks |
| 09:18.46 | kyak | https://dev.openwrt.org/changeset/29633 |
| 09:19.00 | kyak | yeah, it's some recent change.. thanks to jow |
| 09:19.18 | kyak | and it also works :) |
| 09:22.42 | viric | mth: I let to you the fixing of the commit for the kernel, ok? |
| 09:29.16 | mth | viric: ok |
| 09:29.24 | mth | I don't understand his second comment though |
| 09:29.42 | mth | "And why this should be out of order case?" |
| 09:32.47 | viric | maybe it is not an English sentence :) |
| 09:32.53 | viric | out of order means that it does not work, isn't ti? |
| 09:40.58 | mth | it can mean that ("elevator out of order"), but it can also mean that things are done in a different order ("out of order execution") |
| 09:41.57 | mth | also, I don't know if "case" means "situation"/"instance" or refers to upper/lower case letters |
| 09:48.48 | mth | I mailed asking for a clarification |
| 09:59.45 | viric | perfect |
| 10:07.26 | mth | actually, why does the JZ4740 need a different address? is it implied by the hardware somehow or is it just a convention that the existing tooling uses? |
| 10:08.23 | mth | for Dingoo, I changed it because the existing boot loader required it, but I don't know if that address was originally picked at random or whether it was the only sensible option |
| 10:29.32 | viric | I think it's hardcoded in another place of the tree |
| 10:29.47 | viric | I recall little though. |
| 10:39.37 | qi-bot | [commit] Adam Wang: added libraries: nxp, diodes_inc; changed outlook same as datasheet as possible. (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/kicad-libs/3a983ff |
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| 11:35.06 | bartbes | kyak: because of physfs? I'm pretty sure we've been building against 2.0.2 for a while now |
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| 11:53.54 | DocScrutinizer51 | sigh |
| 11:54.32 | DocScrutinizer51 | ~cookie |
| 11:54.56 | DocScrutinizer51 | ~botsnack |
| 11:54.56 | infobot | DocScrutinizer51: thanks |
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| 11:55.59 | DocScrutinizer51 | wpwrak: what's new? |
| 11:56.22 | DocScrutinizer51 | and exciting |
| 11:59.32 | DocScrutinizer51 | hmm, ok. so back to boring ClearCase mess, brunch break declared finished :-S |
| 12:17.35 | wpwrak | DocScrutinizer: not much new and exciting, i'm afraid. oh, maybe from daily politics - argentina implemented a de facto ban on book and newspaper imports, basically as an overnight surprise. and lifted it a few days later. |
| 12:28.48 | viric | mth: so we'll have to investigate why I committed such a particular case for jz4740 |
| 12:32.49 | whitequark | DocScrutinizer51: you seen the atheros/qualcomm article? |
| 12:32.51 | whitequark | namely http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=qualcomm_kill_blobs&num=1 |
| 12:35.05 | kristianpaul | zrafa_: what you think about that python allegro, and gmenux replacement with a programable script? |
| 12:35.33 | kristianpaul | sounds powerfull consider no need write your own SDL stuff.. |
| 12:36.09 | kristianpaul | tough i may allow us better integration with console based apps |
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| 13:03.58 | zrafa_ | kristianpaul: should work. You already has pygame as well I think. python has bindings for everything.. BUt why you would like to replace gmenu2x? |
| 13:04.40 | zrafa_ | kristianpaul: better integration: replace /usr/bin/gmenu2x with |
| 13:04.45 | zrafa_ | kristianpaul: /bin/bash ;) |
| 13:08.56 | mth | the plan we had for integration is to add a boolean to the icon info that indicates whether something is a console app or not |
| 13:09.23 | mth | and switch to a text terminal or not based on that |
| 13:21.10 | kristianpaul | zrafa_: i dont, i ask you about it :) |
| 13:23.10 | kristianpaul | zrafa_: i alredy replace by bash ;) |
| 13:42.20 | zrafa_ | kristianpaul: cool :) |
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| 13:52.04 | mth | larsc (or anyone else who knows the answer): is it safe to assume that if the RTC is taken from an external clock, it will either be 32 kHz or a frequency near that value? |
| 13:53.40 | mth | never mind, the issue only starts if RTC is over 40 GHz, which simply won't happen |
| 13:54.03 | mth | for some reason I thought it could wrap at somewhat realistic freqs |
| 13:57.21 | viric | a rtc at 40GHz may need einstein relativity correction |
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| 14:13.12 | kristianpaul | zrafa_: ha i just saw you mail about genode-fx ;) |
| 14:17.36 | kristianpaul | so it compile under linux without minor/zero modifications |
| 14:17.37 | kristianpaul | ? |
| 14:34.54 | zrafa_ | kristianpaul: yes. Using sdl as canvas. You can build several targets |
| 14:35.04 | zrafa_ | kristianpaul: I just tried on my PC "make sdl" |
| 14:35.12 | zrafa_ | kristianpaul: (and tested of course) |
| 14:42.54 | viric | mth: for the patch, add also a comment of *why this address* |
| 14:43.06 | viric | otherwise it's quite a magic number for reasons out of the kernel tree |
| 14:43.13 | mth | oh, I already sent a new patch |
| 14:43.15 | viric | ah |
| 14:43.16 | viric | :) |
| 14:43.22 | mth | and I don't really know why |
| 14:43.44 | viric | ah you looked like having done a research, in your answer |
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| 14:46.11 | mth | I know that booboo's u-boot uses that address and that you adopted it for the NN as well |
| 14:46.25 | mth | since the original patch only forced it for the A320 |
| 14:47.20 | mth | how does a computed load address even work, by the way? |
| 14:48.10 | mth | I don't think injecting it into the boot loader would be an option, since then you'd always have to replace boot loader and kernel at the same time |
| 14:48.50 | mth | but the alternative would be to have the boot loader figure out the load address at run time, which is extra overhead |
| 14:50.29 | mth | provided that the vmlinuz.bin image even has the desired load address in it in a way that is discoverable |
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| 17:31.15 | zrafa_ | kristianpaul: I am downloading root.tar.gz from your host. Which has some tools for jlime and sie |
| 17:31.31 | zrafa_ | kristianpaul: do you remember if you tried some test with fpga and your tools there? |
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| 17:53.25 | Jay7 | hello, ppl |
| 17:53.33 | Jay7 | just quick question |
| 17:53.41 | Jay7 | do NN have 8Gb NAND flash? |
| 17:54.12 | Jay7 | i.e. is it NAND and is it 8Gb? :) |
| 17:59.13 | wpwrak | Jay7: i'm certain it's NAND. but i think it's less (don't have a machine up to check). wikipedia says 2 GB. |
| 18:00.09 | Jay7 | hm.. seems I confised a bit |
| 18:00.15 | Jay7 | *confused |
| 18:00.50 | viric | mine, 2GiB |
| 18:01.18 | viric | mth: the load address is determined at mkimage, isn't it? |
| 18:02.53 | viric | I mean... there is the kernel start point. Then we make a vmlinuz, which has a specific load address. Then we make mkimage of that vmlinuz, telling to mkimage the same load address. |
| 18:02.56 | viric | no? |
| 18:03.16 | viric | or mkimage takes vmlinux, and it compresses it? Why did I want vmlinuz at all? |
| 18:22.28 | DocScrutinizer | whitequark: yes, very interesting |
| 18:26.02 | zrafa_ | Jay7: wpwrak: if we need to check wikipedia to know the size of the nn nand then we are lost :) |
| 18:42.10 | wpwrak | zrafa_: well, the qi-hw wiki is a bit chaotic, wouldn't you say so ? :) |
| 18:42.50 | wpwrak | zrafa_: and the nand size hasn't troubled me yet, so it's not the sort if number i'd keep in my head |
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| 20:48.12 | MabYwen | zrafa: my nn has 10cmx7.5cmx1.7cm in size :-D |
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| 23:30.48 | mth | viric: I don't know why you wanted vmlinuz, but I wanted it because it loads quicker |
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