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| 15:07.20 | viric | wpwrak: do you have the locate db? ;) check if it matches your disk |
| 15:08.52 | wpwrak | hmm, dunno. booting another rescue disc now. |
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| 15:15.37 | wpwrak | fascinating. new ubuntu doesn't even have a shell at its dektop |
| 15:17.46 | wpwrak | hmm. still can't read the usb disk. this is getting ugly. |
| 15:21.08 | wpwrak | another disk, same problem. so it looks like a driver issue |
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| 15:37.31 | wpwrak | hmm. weird. same thing on another pc. that doesn't make sense. these drives used to work. |
| 15:39.13 | viric | It passed some time since I did not hear the word 'drive' :D |
| 15:39.26 | viric | *since I heard last time* |
| 15:39.40 | kristianpaul | wpwrak: debian ! :-) |
| 15:40.21 | kristianpaul | of course gentoo still good choice if you just install it once ; ) |
| 15:45.27 | larsc | is a happy debian user too |
| 15:45.47 | wpwrak | interesting. forcing full-speed usb helped |
| 15:45.59 | wpwrak | now, this will be fun ... |
| 15:47.37 | viric | 'full' means 'slow' :) |
| 15:48.49 | wpwrak | very. strangely, i don't get usb errors |
| 15:49.40 | kristianpaul | viric:all is relative |
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| 15:51.09 | wpwrak | the drive is supposed to be insane-speed capable or whatever they call it. so you'd think it masters the slower variants quite well |
| 15:51.39 | viric | you may have a bad cable |
| 15:52.34 | wpwrak | two bad cables ? |
| 15:52.49 | wpwrak | with two computers and two drives ? |
| 15:55.26 | viric | not such a low probability |
| 15:57.38 | wpwrak | trying via a hub ... ah, it hates that. hehe :) |
| 16:01.05 | wpwrak | same thing on my laptop |
| 16:08.27 | wpwrak | hmm. so it'll be surgery without prior backup then |
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| 16:19.46 | wpwrak | meanwhile, an old samsung usb drive works just fine. take that, WD ! alas, the samsung is full of data |
| 16:22.45 | wpwrak | kewl. and now the mouse on my laptop stopped working. can i please wake up from this nightmare ? |
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| 19:16.22 | LunaVorax | Hello everyone! |
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| 19:41.30 | kristianpaul | hi |
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| 20:10.33 | viric | wpwrak: woke up? |
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| 20:37.52 | wpwrak | viric: what/who ? |
| 20:38.49 | wpwrak | viric: making a backup now, after bringing my samsung drive to a usable state. it also has its set of USB issues, but not as bad as the WDs |
| 20:38.56 | wpwrak | and then it's surgery time :) |
| 20:43.12 | viric | how do you backup? |
| 20:47.07 | viric | did I already spam about 'btar'? http://viric.name/cgi-bin/btar |
| 20:48.38 | viric | Ayla, larsc, mth: there was a way to catch hidden panics... |
| 20:48.47 | viric | like launching a 2nd kernel with kexec on panic |
| 20:49.23 | viric | I'd like to setup that |
| 20:52.51 | wpwrak | viric: i use rsync. so if anything happens, usb hickup, power failure, etc., i can resume |
| 20:52.58 | viric | ok |
| 20:53.15 | wpwrak | viric: also, a backup to a filesystem lets me access/recover files individually |
| 20:53.31 | viric | fine, if you can afford that :) |
| 20:54.03 | wpwrak | afford ? |
| 20:54.09 | viric | you have enough disk space |
| 20:55.16 | wpwrak | (power failure) i had already two fail-to-ups and two fail-through-ups power cuts this week. the disk trouble is just the icing on the cake |
| 20:56.40 | wpwrak | (disk space) i get disks for that purpose. i think it's the only viable backup media nowadays anyway |
| 20:58.41 | viric | ok |
| 21:00.16 | DocScrutinizer | hi! |
| 21:00.32 | DocScrutinizer | you decided on which bot to mute the regex? |
| 21:00.56 | DocScrutinizer | s/u/U/ |
| 21:00.56 | qi-bot | DocScrutinizer meant: "yoU decided on which bot to mUte the regex?" |
| 21:01.31 | DocScrutinizer | s/u/U/g |
| 21:03.14 | wpwrak | why do we have so many bots in the first place ? :) |
| 21:04.01 | wpwrak | infobot seems to be more consistent with sed. the implicit /g of qi-bot can be confusing |
| 21:05.44 | DocScrutinizer | ~status |
| 21:05.44 | infobot | Since Fri Mar 16 15:02:11 2012, there have been 1 modification, 135 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 56 commands. I have been awake for 6h 3m 33s this session, and currently reference 118455 factoids. I'm using about 20320 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 119.61/6.04 child 0/0 |
| 21:07.02 | DocScrutinizer | even while 2/3 of those 118k factoids are ZIP codes and some other class of nonsense I forgot, it still is incredibly usefull to have access to such a large database that easily gets extended/updated easily |
| 21:07.10 | DocScrutinizer | that's why |
| 21:08.14 | wpwrak | i actually prefer to read wikipedia in a web browser instead of my irc client :) |
| 21:08.39 | DocScrutinizer | ~wiki ircbot |
| 21:09.35 | wpwrak | sigh |
| 21:09.40 | DocScrutinizer | lol |
| 21:10.02 | wpwrak | may dump any images as ASCII art ? |
| 21:10.10 | wpwrak | may->maybe |
| 21:10.24 | DocScrutinizer | no way |
| 21:10.35 | DocScrutinizer | ~qi-hardware |
| 21:10.42 | DocScrutinizer | errr |
| 21:10.44 | wpwrak | i thought you liked spam ? :) |
| 21:10.46 | DocScrutinizer | ~qi-hw |
| 21:10.47 | infobot | [qi-hw] copyleft hardware |
| 21:11.16 | DocScrutinizer | that'S the kind of factoid based info it's most useful for |
| 21:11.21 | wpwrak | infobot, the embodiment of uselessness :) |
| 21:11.54 | DocScrutinizer | anyway, ask wolfspraul - I ofered to kick the bot anytime, he replied he wants to keep it |
| 21:13.33 | DocScrutinizer | if she annoys you, there's still /ignore |
| 21:13.37 | DocScrutinizer | ;-) |
| 21:19.58 | viric | is System.map still of some utility? |
| 21:20.09 | viric | I have bzImage and vmlinux... |
| 21:22.13 | Ayla | viric, hi |
| 21:22.34 | Ayla | I did toy with kexec on OpenDingux not so long ago |
| 21:23.22 | Ayla | (if you were asking about kexec on nanonote, that is) |
| 21:25.49 | viric | I want to try that on PC... |
| 21:25.53 | viric | but I imagined you would know :) |
| 21:25.58 | viric | you used it for KCRASH? |
| 21:26.39 | Ayla | no |
| 21:26.52 | viric | ok, I want kcrash |
| 21:28.28 | Ayla | all the time the jz-kernel crashes here, the kernel doesn't even panic |
| 21:28.37 | viric | I imagine. |
| 21:28.39 | Ayla | it just freezes |
| 21:28.53 | viric | I just have to hope that it may have paniced in my case |
| 21:28.53 | Ayla | and the watchdog reboots the device :/ |
| 21:29.43 | viric | hw watchdog? |
| 21:29.52 | viric | maybe uboot could do a dump of the ram! :) |
| 21:30.15 | Ayla | yes hw watchdog |
| 21:36.08 | viric | Ayla: I imagine my pc is just hanging, without panic too. |
| 21:37.20 | Ayla | heh |
| 21:37.25 | Ayla | it occurs from time to time here |
| 21:37.47 | viric | mine is a phenom II |
| 21:37.51 | viric | no other computers in the office crash |
| 21:38.03 | Ayla | worse, my PC boots up from time to time by itself, at the middle of the night |
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| 21:40.32 | viric | ha, interesting |
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| 21:54.33 | whitequark | Ayla: rtc alarm |
| 21:55.29 | Ayla | whitequark, well, I'm not sure it occurs at the same time of the night |
| 21:56.25 | whitequark | otherwise it's very horribly broken |
| 21:56.36 | Ayla | <paul@cerebro:/sys/class/rtc/rtc0> $ cat since_epoch |
| 21:56.41 | Ayla | 1331935082 |
| 21:56.50 | Ayla | <paul@cerebro:/sys/class/rtc/rtc0> $ cat wakealarm |
| 21:56.52 | whitequark | or else: ethernet wakeup, ps/2 wakeup, usb wakeup |
| 21:56.56 | whitequark | I don't know of others |
| 21:56.56 | Ayla | 1331948872 |
| 21:56.58 | Ayla | MEH |
| 21:58.54 | Ayla | looks like it's the RTC alarm which wakes up my PC |
| 21:59.09 | Ayla | do you have any idea what could set my RTC alarm? |
| 21:59.16 | Ayla | I never do it myself |
| 21:59.18 | larsc | OS update? |
| 21:59.48 | Ayla | you mean updating the version of the kernel? |
| 22:00.07 | larsc | no, some system update process |
| 22:00.14 | larsc | which updates packages |
| 22:00.25 | larsc | do you use ubuntu? |
| 22:00.31 | Ayla | debian |
| 22:00.49 | larsc | hm |
| 22:00.51 | viric | a clever cron would set the wakealarm hahaha |
| 22:01.04 | larsc | my debian doesn't wakeup in the middle of the night |
| 22:01.13 | larsc | Ayla: do you have a webcam on your PC? |
| 22:01.32 | Ayla | no webcam no |
| 22:02.28 | larsc | i thought there might be somebody watching you sleep ;) |
| 22:02.29 | Ayla | I have a DVB-t USB tuner, a USB sound card, keyboard/mouse |
| 22:03.01 | Ayla | that's... frightening |
| 22:04.14 | viric | maybe someone likes to hear you sleep |
| 22:04.30 | larsc | hehe |
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| 22:05.26 | DocScrutinizer | dvb-t ? hey |
| 22:05.41 | DocScrutinizer | sure, you wanna record something |
| 22:06.41 | DocScrutinizer | probably as easy as accidentally hitting enter key in EPG |
| 22:07.58 | viric | a dvb-t usb tuner? what can a kernel hacker do with a dvb-t usb tuner? |
| 22:08.40 | Ayla | receive alien signals |
| 22:09.46 | larsc | aha |
| 22:09.57 | viric | I knew your case would involve aliens |
| 22:10.13 | viric | I just had to ask the key question. |
| 23:04.02 | DocScrutinizer | I'd probably use a dvb-s tuner for receiving aliens |
| 23:04.46 | DocScrutinizer | the -t variant is by name not siuted for that purpose ;-D |
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| 23:29.08 | wpwrak | dvb-a ? |