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| 03:27.06 | Patlabor221 | hallo |
| 04:53.44 | Patlabor221 | but all those things require work |
| 04:53.51 | learner | hehe |
| 04:54.11 | Patlabor221 | and it'll be easyer for him to get high and blow out some brain cells |
| 04:57.38 | Patlabor221 | so I hear your gonna be DDR enabled soon :) |
| 05:08.12 | JBdiGriz | hi learner, there was a blowout htf game on proxs.bzflag.org just now |
| 05:18.42 | learner | hiya jbdigriz :) |
| 05:19.06 | learner | that reverse ctf flag thingy? |
| 06:40.06 | Patlabor221 | hmm no guu |
| 06:45.07 | Patlabor221 | well I hope coldet builds on the 'tosh |
| 07:23.58 | JBdiGriz | orchid is rebuilding her machine. guu will be back later. |
| 07:24.48 | Patlabor221 | I thought it was a laptop |
| 07:24.56 | Patlabor221 | I know she's geting new hardware in |
| 07:27.50 | JBdiGriz | looking back over the conversation, she needed the net cable for the new machine. |
| 07:28.03 | Patlabor221 | and some ram from her blog |
| 07:28.06 | Patlabor221 | DDR |
| 07:28.17 | JBdiGriz | she has sdram, she's getting some free ddr |
| 07:28.30 | Patlabor221 | does the board take sdram? |
| 07:28.39 | Patlabor221 | combo boards are rare |
| 07:28.53 | JBdiGriz | evidently, i'm only repeating what she told me. |
| 07:29.47 | JBdiGriz | According to the board's web info, it takes both |
| 07:29.53 | Patlabor221 | nice |
| 07:30.01 | Patlabor221 | there are some combo boards |
| 07:30.04 | Patlabor221 | I have a couple |
| 07:30.12 | Patlabor221 | she will have a nice fast machine now |
| 07:30.27 | Patlabor221 | the celly 1.7 will run the same bus as her P3 |
| 07:31.29 | JBdiGriz | it's nice having a couple of faster machines around. i will probably play with moving all net connections to one machine on monday when the family isn't using the computers. |
| 07:32.57 | Patlabor221 | how do I add a user to a group from the CLI? |
| 07:33.02 | Patlabor221 | on linux? |
| 07:33.45 | JBdiGriz | vi /etc/groups |
| 07:33.50 | learner | emacs /etc/group |
| 07:33.55 | learner | :P |
| 07:33.57 | learner | :) |
| 07:34.46 | JBdiGriz | groupname:password:groupno:username,username,username |
| 07:35.22 | JBdiGriz | I'm not sure pat is an emacs aficionado :) |
| 07:35.42 | JBdiGriz | you're up late, and how was the visit? |
| 07:36.01 | learner | it was pretty good |
| 07:36.08 | learner | and yes.. yes I am.. |
| 07:36.19 | learner | did i miss any excitement? |
| 07:36.25 | Patlabor221 | coo thanks |
| 07:36.43 | JBdiGriz | htf is the reverse ctf where everyone is on one team, there were 6-7 players and i was providing commentary. |
| 07:36.51 | Patlabor221 | somone said knightmare was a "cool dude" on bzbb |
| 07:37.50 | JBdiGriz | db, dm, carnage, heinola, ramstein, occasionally |tim|, and orange came in late |
| 07:38.15 | JBdiGriz | The final shot scores were ~-400 :) |
| 07:38.22 | learner | heh |
| 07:39.16 | JBdiGriz | ramstein and uk monkey joined consumption, so izto has a team again. |
| 07:40.35 | Patlabor221 | trepan says he's gonna try to make a makefile system for p24 tomorow |
| 07:40.45 | JBdiGriz | that's about all that happened that i recall. |
| 07:41.22 | JBdiGriz | a makefile system would be nice. scons would be nice as well, but i got lost in the documentation weeds for a while. |
| 07:41.23 | Patlabor221 | and bzg got some new hardware |
| 07:42.28 | JBdiGriz | she's still thinking about installing bsd. somehow i don't think that will happen. |
| 07:43.52 | Patlabor221 | it may, you never know with her |
| 07:44.26 | JBdiGriz | it may, i'm still learning more about her as we go along. |
| 07:45.07 | Patlabor221 | she worked her damndest to try and get me to get a good install of debian |
| 07:45.15 | Patlabor221 | she's a very smart girl |
| 07:45.53 | learner | hehe |
| 07:45.57 | learner | yes she is |
| 07:46.55 | learner | ah, good to hear that about itzo/consumption.. |
| 07:47.30 | learner | what happened with her floppy woes? did she get her cable "straitened out"? |
| 07:47.45 | Patlabor221 | dono |
| 07:47.51 | JBdiGriz | i didn't hear anything more after we tried to reply to her. |
| 07:48.07 | Patlabor221 | she asked me some stuff about drive cables |
| 07:48.14 | Patlabor221 | I gave her some info |
| 07:48.20 | learner | as did I |
| 07:48.30 | Patlabor221 | she normaly asks me if stuff like that dosn't work so I asume she got it worked out. |
| 07:48.31 | JBdiGriz | iirc the only thing that ever happened when i reversed the floppy cable is the light didn't go off. |
| 07:48.39 | learner | really sounded like she just had her pins twisted around :) |
| 07:48.42 | Patlabor221 | on some boards it freaks |
| 07:48.44 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 07:49.16 | Patlabor221 | gahh I got a bmp mixed in with the jpegs |
| 07:49.33 | JBdiGriz | i haven't built up the last couple of pc's that i'm using. i'm appreciating the small bookcase form factor. |
| 07:49.49 | Patlabor221 | ITX? |
| 07:50.00 | Patlabor221 | or the super mini media systems? |
| 07:50.53 | JBdiGriz | i'm not sure what the official title is, but it's about 3.5" high, 15"deep, and 12" wide |
| 07:51.23 | Patlabor221 | I think that's the ITX ones |
| 07:51.34 | Patlabor221 | the minis are more shoebox like |
| 07:51.38 | JBdiGriz | they're also much cheaper than machines that mount in 19" racks. :) |
| 07:51.40 | Patlabor221 | can anyone get to http://ryoko.bakadigital.com/desktops/ ? |
| 07:51.52 | JBdiGriz | yes |
| 07:52.14 | Patlabor221 | cool, thanks |
| 07:52.24 | JBdiGriz | no bmps listed |
| 07:52.30 | Patlabor221 | I took it out |
| 07:52.45 | learner | same here for http://ryoko.bakadigital.com/ |
| 07:52.45 | Patlabor221 | these cases? http://www.bigbruin.com/html/morex_3688.htm |
| 07:53.04 | Patlabor221 | cool then the webserver is working again |
| 07:54.14 | Patlabor221 | these look a bit intersting to me, http://www.pcclub.com/product_detail.cfm?itemno=A4976404 |
| 07:54.28 | Patlabor221 | tho not much room for expansion |
| 07:56.40 | JBdiGriz | similar, but a little larger, here's a picture of the newer one. http://www.jtechbuys.com/p447884533fs.html |
| 07:57.06 | Patlabor221 | does it have a real PCI or agp slot? |
| 07:57.18 | JBdiGriz | Real PCI and an agp slot |
| 07:57.22 | Patlabor221 | coo |
| 07:58.02 | JBdiGriz | low profile PCI |
| 07:58.06 | Patlabor221 | ahh |
| 07:58.16 | Patlabor221 | I don't know why but for some reason I want this case |
| 07:58.17 | Patlabor221 | http://www.pcclub.com/product_detail.cfm?itemno=A1320741# |
| 07:58.25 | Patlabor221 | tho sans window |
| 07:59.09 | JBdiGriz | I've seen them over at PC Club. I was able to purchase this system with hd and memory and dvd/cdrw for $400. |
| 07:59.22 | Patlabor221 | thats a good price |
| 07:59.52 | JBdiGriz | no kidding. evidently someone bought too many, and this place picked up the extras to sell them off. |
| 07:59.57 | Patlabor221 | I've seen people do some really wacky case mods with those mobos |
| 08:00.03 | Patlabor221 | one put one in an old O2 case |
| 08:00.12 | Patlabor221 | and another made a 800mhz teddy bear |
| 08:01.06 | JBdiGriz | I just want to free up all of the space under my desk again. I'm down to 3 systems under there now, but one is turned off, and I'll remove it. |
| 08:01.38 | Patlabor221 | I should do somethign like that for the server at work |
| 08:01.54 | JBdiGriz | Another is the older system in the same form factor, and it will probably move to a central location next to the family network switch. |
| 08:02.01 | Patlabor221 | tho if I can get samba working I can probably consolodate 3 servers down to 1 |
| 08:02.10 | JBdiGriz | The last is my dual mac, and it's just going to stay here. :) |
| 08:02.21 | Patlabor221 | of course :) |
| 08:02.28 | JBdiGriz | samba is pretty easy to get working these days. |
| 08:02.48 | Patlabor221 | yeah I just haven't tried that much |
| 08:03.00 | Patlabor221 | and I'd have to rewire asgard into the net so it would be internal as well |
| 08:03.14 | JBdiGriz | I'm sticking with nfs for now, but I made samba work at a couple of places which had to deal with M$. |
| 08:03.38 | Patlabor221 | thats what I have to do, I have a windows file server right next to it, I would like to combine them |
| 08:03.45 | Patlabor221 | then use the fileserver for something else |
| 08:04.20 | JBdiGriz | Both of my servers have two ethernet connections on them, one for an external, and one for the internal. They only have one serial connection, so I run that to a modem rather than a real console. |
| 08:04.49 | Patlabor221 | I may do that for this one machine |
| 08:05.09 | Patlabor221 | the added benifit would be that our entire music collection would be web accessable too |
| 08:05.15 | JBdiGriz | It's nice having the serial console, but not absolutely necessary |
| 08:06.11 | JBdiGriz | I haven't made all of the music accessible internally yet, but I probably will when the kids are more interested in sharing music amongst themselves. |
| 08:06.27 | Patlabor221 | hmmm I could slap it behind a DSL router, and that would give me another "out" to the net :) |
| 08:06.36 | Patlabor221 | a non loged out .... hmmm |
| 08:07.49 | JBdiGriz | I'm looking forward to my DSL upgrade. I'm going to spend some time doing net measurements on wednesday and thursday. |
| 08:08.22 | Patlabor221 | your moving to the same setup I have |
| 08:08.23 | Patlabor221 | it's nice |
| 08:08.31 | Patlabor221 | I often get more then 256 up as well |
| 08:08.36 | JBdiGriz | are you static or dynamic? |
| 08:09.07 | Patlabor221 | dynamic |
| 08:09.20 | Patlabor221 | but I have my router set to keep no-ip.com updated |
| 08:09.32 | Patlabor221 | and the I relly only changes when I reset the modem |
| 08:09.34 | JBdiGriz | i'm a bit curious how much we lose to the pppoe setup that sbc requires. |
| 08:09.52 | Patlabor221 | some, I don't know how much tho |
| 08:10.11 | Patlabor221 | on DSL reports I often clock in at 1.4 1.5 megs |
| 08:10.19 | JBdiGriz | i haven't lost the connection recently, but i used to lose it a couple of times per month. |
| 08:10.56 | JBdiGriz | those download speeds would be great. it would probably make my family happier as well. |
| 08:11.10 | Patlabor221 | the slowest I have clocked is 1.2 |
| 08:11.46 | Patlabor221 | a couple times I was geting 512+ upstream |
| 08:11.49 | Patlabor221 | I was happy :) |
| 08:12.01 | JBdiGriz | Right now, I'm seeing transfer speeds around 300kbits/sec. |
| 08:13.48 | Patlabor221 | I just clocked about 1300 |
| 08:14.06 | Patlabor221 | and 219 up |
| 08:14.42 | JBdiGriz | What are you using for measurement? |
| 08:14.56 | Patlabor221 | dsl reports |
| 08:15.01 | Patlabor221 | the mpath server |
| 08:15.54 | JBdiGriz | I'm just using file transfers to known high speed connections. |
| 08:16.07 | Patlabor221 | ahh |
| 08:17.51 | Patlabor221 | I often see transfers of 150+ kbytes a sec |
| 08:18.05 | Patlabor221 | from places like MS, or some of the sf mirrors |
| 08:20.38 | JBdiGriz | I'm actually getting better numbers right now 40kbytes per second down, 20kbytes per second up. :) |
| 08:20.54 | Patlabor221 | and what is the line suposed to be? |
| 08:21.19 | JBdiGriz | max 384kbits down 128kbits up. |
| 08:21.27 | Patlabor221 | ahh the little one |
| 08:21.49 | Patlabor221 | our most common is 1.5megs down 128 up |
| 08:22.07 | JBdiGriz | started out small to determine what i needed, i was thinking of switching to static ip, but it's been working out well with the dialup so far. |
| 08:22.46 | Patlabor221 | for a while I didn't even know they had anythign slower then 1.5 down |
| 08:23.02 | Patlabor221 | my friend is on static pacbell and we see the same basic speeds |
| 08:23.14 | Patlabor221 | tho I can get the 256 up, he can not |
| 08:23.22 | JBdiGriz | that's interesting since static doesn't require the pppoe. |
| 08:23.28 | Patlabor221 | I know |
| 08:23.41 | Patlabor221 | we usualy clock within 100 bytes of each other |
| 08:23.46 | Patlabor221 | so it must not take that much |
| 08:24.11 | JBdiGriz | what processor is handling the pppoe on your machine? |
| 08:24.28 | Patlabor221 | or everyone is using pppoe and they are just giving out the same IP each time for the statics |
| 08:24.31 | Patlabor221 | my DSL router |
| 08:24.37 | Patlabor221 | we each have one |
| 08:25.08 | JBdiGriz | the dsl router passes it through to the machine, unless your using a router that you purchased. |
| 08:25.29 | Patlabor221 | it's my router not a pacbell thing |
| 08:25.38 | Patlabor221 | I'm not talking about the dsl modem |
| 08:25.54 | Patlabor221 | all my computers are set up dhcp with no pacbell software at all |
| 08:25.56 | JBdiGriz | got it, I'm using the bsd boxes to handle the pppoe. |
| 08:26.14 | Patlabor221 | I figured a $30 router was just as good as a computer :) |
| 08:26.48 | JBdiGriz | it's something else to break down :) |
| 08:27.17 | Patlabor221 | just like the computer :) |
| 08:27.23 | Patlabor221 | has less moving parts too |
| 08:27.47 | JBdiGriz | i've had to throw away a couple of routers at this point. |
| 08:28.04 | Patlabor221 | only ones I've pitched are linksys crap ones |
| 08:28.08 | Patlabor221 | never geting one of those again |
| 08:28.12 | JBdiGriz | that was one of them. |
| 08:28.15 | Patlabor221 | dlink or gigafast for me |
| 08:28.23 | JBdiGriz | dlink was the other one. |
| 08:28.31 | Patlabor221 | my dlink is still going well |
| 08:28.36 | Patlabor221 | had it for 3 years |
| 08:28.44 | Patlabor221 | tho I love my gigafast one |
| 08:28.51 | Patlabor221 | I ran our company off that thing |
| 08:30.45 | Patlabor221 | we did have the dlink at one of the offices overheat a lot |
| 08:30.55 | Patlabor221 | but then it was right on top of the modem too |
| 08:31.23 | JBdiGriz | I'd have to think how that would work with this multiple connection/nat I'm trying to set up. |
| 08:31.42 | Patlabor221 | the router runs my nat too |
| 08:31.58 | Patlabor221 | then I have some of the LAN machins set to static lan ips |
| 08:32.12 | Patlabor221 | and have the router set to send ports to the machins that need it |
| 08:32.26 | JBdiGriz | yes, but that's part of the issue, since there are two connections to the outside world from the machine, and one goes through the nat. |
| 08:32.34 | Patlabor221 | ahh |
| 08:32.43 | Patlabor221 | yeah that would get odd |
| 08:32.47 | Patlabor221 | dsl and dialup? |
| 08:32.55 | Patlabor221 | or 2 dls? |
| 08:33.12 | JBdiGriz | dsl and dialup. I have a cheap static ip account on dialup. |
| 08:33.18 | Patlabor221 | ahh |
| 08:33.36 | Patlabor221 | this dlink router has a serial port for a modem, it can use a dialup as a backup connection |
| 08:33.46 | Patlabor221 | tho I've never used it |
| 08:33.50 | JBdiGriz | so I use that as my primary dns, and the dsl as a secondary. |
| 08:34.05 | Patlabor221 | it's allways connected? |
| 08:34.08 | Patlabor221 | the dialup? |
| 08:34.40 | JBdiGriz | The dsl is always connected, the dialup isn't. When a host trys to resolve and the dialup isn't on, it goes to the secondary which is the dsl. |
| 08:34.50 | Patlabor221 | ahh |
| 08:35.00 | Patlabor221 | interesting way |
| 08:35.16 | Patlabor221 | I guess I don't have that issue since I don't host my own dns |
| 08:35.26 | JBdiGriz | I also have a couple of friends who provide secondary as well, and I've set up the MX records so the dsl is preferred. |
| 08:35.59 | Patlabor221 | I need to get a mailserver going here so I can have @bakadigital.com mail addys |
| 08:36.05 | JBdiGriz | It seems that most people don't host their own dns these days. I like having the control. |
| 08:36.22 | Patlabor221 | I have a lot of controll with no-ip.com |
| 08:36.30 | Patlabor221 | tho I have to pay for it |
| 08:37.06 | JBdiGriz | You have an smtp server responding on bakadigital.com already. |
| 08:37.11 | Patlabor221 | I can set as many sub domains as I want, with MX records and such |
| 08:37.30 | Patlabor221 | yes, I know I do, but it won't ever get a smtp packet from outside |
| 08:37.37 | Patlabor221 | it's blocked at the firewall |
| 08:37.39 | JBdiGriz | It just did. |
| 08:37.44 | Patlabor221 | it did? |
| 08:37.48 | Patlabor221 | it's not suposed to |
| 08:37.55 | Patlabor221 | he didn't open 23 |
| 08:38.02 | JBdiGriz | telnet bakadigital.com 25 |
| 08:38.19 | JBdiGriz | Trying 208.48.199.215... |
| 08:38.19 | JBdiGriz | Connected to bakadigital.com. |
| 08:38.19 | JBdiGriz | Escape character is '^]'. |
| 08:38.19 | JBdiGriz | 220 SMTP service ready |
| 08:38.37 | Patlabor221 | hmm |
| 08:39.12 | Patlabor221 | yeah it is |
| 08:39.13 | Patlabor221 | hmm |
| 08:39.21 | Patlabor221 | so I could set it to redirect? |
| 08:39.28 | Patlabor221 | like to another mail account? |
| 08:39.46 | JBdiGriz | sure |
| 08:39.47 | Patlabor221 | god I hope it's not acting as a relay |
| 08:40.04 | JBdiGriz | You might want to check that. :) |
| 08:40.12 | Patlabor221 | wish I knew how |
| 08:41.33 | Patlabor221 | well it's rejecting anything other then local uses it seems |
| 08:41.35 | Patlabor221 | so that's good |
| 08:42.41 | Patlabor221 | actualy it seems to be rejecting those as well |
| 08:44.02 | JBdiGriz | It looks like it's putting things into the local mail, and there's no indication of relay in the /var/log/maillog |
| 08:44.34 | Patlabor221 | it just told me that it could not send a message to JeffM@bakadigital.com cus the mailbox did not exist |
| 08:44.59 | Patlabor221 | 550 error mailbox unavalble |
| 08:46.05 | JBdiGriz | 553 5.3.5 bakadigital.com. config error: mail loops back to me (MX problem?) |
| 08:46.05 | JBdiGriz | 554 5.3.5 Local configuration error |
| 08:46.26 | Patlabor221 | well I have no mx records set :) |
| 08:48.09 | Patlabor221 | I just set one to smtp.bakadigital.com |
| 08:48.15 | Patlabor221 | that points to the same IP |
| 08:48.24 | JBdiGriz | I can send to dbw |
| 08:48.44 | Patlabor221 | hmm |
| 08:48.48 | Patlabor221 | maybe my acct is jacked |
| 08:49.17 | JBdiGriz | but I can't send to dbw@bakadigital.com |
| 08:49.23 | Patlabor221 | oh |
| 08:49.36 | Patlabor221 | like it dosn't know it's domain or something |
| 08:49.52 | Patlabor221 | is there something that maps mail accounts to users? |
| 08:50.35 | Patlabor221 | cus would not JeffM and jeffm be difrent users on the system? how would it know who to go to? |
| 08:50.55 | JBdiGriz | If the user account exists, it should pull it from /etc/passwd, but you can redirect using /etc/mail/aliases |
| 08:52.15 | Patlabor221 | there is no file called that |
| 08:52.48 | JBdiGriz | I noticed. I suspect you don't have any aliases right now. I was thinking of setting up one for me, just to see if it would forward. |
| 08:52.49 | Patlabor221 | hmm there is virtualusertable |
| 08:53.09 | Patlabor221 | I added the proper domains to the localdomains file |
| 08:54.26 | JBdiGriz | For some reason it's /etc/aliases on that system |
| 08:54.50 | Patlabor221 | redhat 9 |
| 08:54.59 | Patlabor221 | they did move stuff all around |
| 08:56.54 | JBdiGriz | it now forwards all mail to dbw to me here, but it still doesn't resolve the domain correctly. I'll have to check on that. did you rerun make after adding the domains? |
| 08:57.09 | Patlabor221 | no I didn't |
| 08:57.46 | JBdiGriz | Is it also known as dev.gibbscam.com? |
| 08:57.51 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 08:58.07 | JBdiGriz | that one isn't in the local-host-table |
| 08:58.16 | Patlabor221 | it should never get mail there |
| 08:58.32 | JBdiGriz | but i think it's resolving to that as the original name |
| 08:58.41 | Patlabor221 | but that is what it's local DNS server will reverse dns it to |
| 08:58.48 | Patlabor221 | it may |
| 08:58.59 | Patlabor221 | that is the name our ISP has for it |
| 08:59.09 | Patlabor221 | the name it's DNS has for it |
| 09:02.20 | JBdiGriz | nope, that's not it. it looks okay from sendmail, so something else is happening. |
| 09:03.07 | JBdiGriz | I'll look into it monday when I'm more awake and have time. |
| 09:03.14 | Patlabor221 | k :) |
| 09:03.46 | JBdiGriz | now it's time for some sleep, cya :) |
| 09:03.49 | Patlabor221 | yeah it is |
| 09:03.50 | Patlabor221 | see ya |
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| 15:26.06 | learner | :) go ahead and ask |
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| 17:25.42 | JBdiGriz | brunch sounds like a good idea |
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| 19:11.59 | orchid | hi patty |
| 19:12.09 | Patlabor221 | hi |
| 19:12.16 | Patlabor221 | how is your weekend going? |
| 19:12.22 | orchid | geeky |
| 19:12.34 | orchid | ive been on this stupid pc all day |
| 19:12.41 | orchid | fighting debian :) |
| 19:13.01 | Patlabor221 | ohh no you haven't picked up me disease have you? |
| 19:13.06 | orchid | i took a bzshoot-learner break |
| 19:13.13 | Patlabor221 | heh |
| 19:13.14 | orchid | no, it still loves me |
| 19:13.33 | Patlabor221 | ahh well that's good |
| 19:13.53 | orchid | but i had to reinstall over all my mp3's, so will need to do another massive file copy later on |
| 19:14.10 | Patlabor221 | :( |
| 19:14.17 | orchid | rule # 1, upgrade to sid, then copy your files over |
| 19:26.57 | learner | hehe |
| 19:27.40 | learner | they should be, ches.. i've no problems with smp make |
| 19:27.49 | Patlabor221 | wrong one |
| 19:27.53 | learner | i know |
| 19:28.01 | learner | dang single hand typing |
| 20:30.19 | Patlabor221 | mmm omlets |
| 20:31.46 | orchid | jb, i am installing bsd |
| 20:31.59 | orchid | i am mad at debian today |
| 20:32.04 | JBdiGriz | cool, how's it going? |
| 20:32.08 | orchid | http://bzgirl.bakadigital.com/errors.jpg |
| 20:32.24 | orchid | i just partitioned the drive, and chose the full system with ports |
| 20:32.34 | Patlabor221 | that is a lot of text |
| 20:32.36 | orchid | i suspect flakey ram actually |
| 20:32.46 | orchid | so i wanted to install another OS |
| 20:33.38 | orchid | hmm acd0 flushing device failed :( |
| 20:34.32 | Patlabor221 | hmmm PC club has those power line ethernet units for 50$ then a $50 rebate on them |
| 20:34.36 | JBdiGriz | That's the cd |
| 20:35.15 | orchid | hmm, i got some errors fetching stuff off my debian cdrom too |
| 20:35.25 | orchid | i mean in the debian install |
| 20:35.42 | JBdiGriz | How many rebates can you get? Usually it's only one, and you need two of those power line units. |
| 20:36.30 | JBdiGriz | It sounds like it might be a problem with the cd rather than debian, bsd or the ram. |
| 20:36.42 | JBdiGriz | The drive rather than the actual disk. |
| 20:37.07 | orchid | yeah, im going to put another one in, if i have one here |
| 21:14.06 | Patlabor221 | and the best comback he can come up with is "shudap" |
| 21:52.12 | *** join/#project24 Guu (~girlbot@toronto-hs-64-26-176-100.s-ip.magma.ca) |
| 21:58.27 | orchid | !list |
| 21:58.27 | Guu | orchid: Admin, Alias, Channel, ChannelDB, Debian, Factoids, Friendly, Fun, Google, Http, Karma, Lookup, Math, Misc, MoobotFactoids, Movies, Owner, QuoteGrabs, Quotes, RSS, Services, Status, Todo, Topic, URL, Unix, User |
| 21:59.34 | JBdiGriz | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:00.38 | JBdiGriz | !load fundb |
| 22:00.38 | Guu | JBdiGriz: The operation succeeded. |
| 22:00.53 | JBdiGriz | is this the new release? |
| 22:01.09 | JBdiGriz | !status |
| 22:01.09 | Guu | JBdiGriz: (status <command> [<args> ...]) -- Command dispatcher for the Status plugin. Use 'list Status' to see the commands provided by this plugin. In most cases this dispatcher command is unnecessary; in cases where more than one plugin defines a given command, use this command to tell the bot which plugin's command to use. |
| 22:01.17 | JBdiGriz | !list status |
| 22:01.17 | Guu | JBdiGriz: bestuptime, cmdstats, commands, cpustats, netstats, status, uptime |
| 22:01.24 | JBdiGriz | !uptime |
| 22:01.24 | Guu | JBdiGriz: I have been running for 37 minutes and 23 seconds. |
| 22:01.35 | JBdiGriz | !help version |
| 22:01.36 | Guu | JBdiGriz: Error: That command exists in the Debian and Misc plugins. Please specify exactly which plugin command you want help with. |
| 22:01.44 | JBdiGriz | !list misc |
| 22:01.44 | Guu | JBdiGriz: apropos, getprefixchar, help, hostmask, last, list, logfilesize, misc, more, notice, plugin, private, source, tell, version |
| 22:01.53 | JBdiGriz | !help misc version |
| 22:01.53 | Guu | JBdiGriz: (misc version takes no arguments) -- Returns the version of the current bot. |
| 22:01.59 | JBdiGriz | !misc version |
| 22:01.59 | Guu | JBdiGriz: 0.73.1 |
| 22:02.50 | orchid | well i suck at building computers |
| 22:03.09 | orchid | JBdiGriz: i wont ugrade untill i get this OS installed |
| 22:03.24 | orchid | then on the new puter will put the latest supy |
| 22:03.39 | JBdiGriz | how so? you managed to get the machine together and discovered a couple of problems. That's definitely better than most. |
| 22:03.59 | orchid | well it still bombs out in bsd and debian, with a diff cdrom |
| 22:04.15 | orchid | so i think i need to wait till this week to get my new ram |
| 22:04.20 | orchid | and try it all over again |
| 22:04.57 | JBdiGriz | You might have to check out the cd drive settings on the ATA |
| 22:06.14 | JBdiGriz | learner is still marked as away, but he's sending messages :) |
| 22:08.41 | orchid | settings? |
| 22:08.43 | orchid | ata? |
| 22:08.45 | orchid | hmm |
| 22:08.53 | orchid | the jumpers on the cdrom? |
| 22:09.25 | learner | I'm still away? |
| 22:09.34 | learner | hehe |
| 22:10.40 | learner | orchid: ATA devices are usually marked as slave or master by the jumpers .. if you have two slaves or two masters on one cable, things get upset |
| 22:11.28 | JBdiGriz | sorry, went away for a sec, learner is absolutely correct. |
| 22:11.55 | orchid | its on its own ide bus as master |
| 22:13.47 | learner | if you think it's the memory and you have more than one memory chip, just pull all the rest -- not likely that more than one is bad usually |
| 22:15.17 | orchid | yeah |
| 22:15.30 | orchid | i guess thats an acceptable solution |
