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00:51.10*** join/#project24 Patlabor221 (~JeffM@adsl-64-167-79-242.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net)
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01:01.05Patlabor221no guu?
01:22.12JBdiGrizHmm, I wonder what happened to guu
01:25.41Patlabor221dono
01:26.09JBdiGrizbzgirl.bzflag.org isn't responding to ssh, there are probably some issues there.
01:26.25Patlabor221probably computer is off :)
01:26.43JBdiGrizit responds to a ping, otherwise i would agree
01:28.12*** join/#project24 orchid (~bzgirl@toronto-hs-64-26-176-100.s-ip.magma.ca)
01:28.27orchidhi Patlabor221, yes not a bad weekend i guess
01:28.31JBdiGrizthere's the person to ask :)
01:28.58JBdiGrizdid guu do something bad, so you had to punish her?
01:29.10orchidoh no, i didnt see she's gone
01:29.28JBdiGrizi can't ssh into bzgirl.bzflag.org either.
01:30.02orchid~nslookup bzgirl.bzflag.org
01:30.11Patlabor221ohh I'm sorry
01:30.17Patlabor221bad weekends suck
01:30.27Patlabor221wasn't anything we did was it?
01:30.33orchidnope!
01:30.47JBdiGrizshe has been shooting me all to pieces this weekend.
01:31.04Patlabor221well if it was man problems I apolgoise for my 1/2 of the species
01:31.13Patlabor221ahh I see
01:31.15orchidjust taking out my aggression jb, nothing personal :)
01:31.20Patlabor221heh
01:31.37orchidhmm, i cant ssh into my laptop now
01:31.45JBdiGrizof course not, if i can help you with your aggression or frustration, let me know :)
01:32.06orchidlol. i'll keep that i mind
01:33.01*** join/#project24 Guu (~girlbot@toronto-hs-64-26-176-100.s-ip.magma.ca)
01:33.10JBdiGrizman problems
01:33.10JBdiGrizNo manual entry for problems
01:33.13Patlabor221I wonder if I can ship cheesecake to canada
01:33.24Patlabor221you would love the stuff I had today
01:33.35JBdiGrizwhere did you go?
01:33.45Patlabor221Cheesecake Factory
01:34.19JBdiGrizMy daughter wanted to go there for her 11th birthday dinner, so we all went. The dinner was good, and the dessert was fantastic.
01:34.22*** join/#project24 Guu (~girlbot@toronto-hs-64-26-176-100.s-ip.magma.ca)
01:35.04Patlabor221http://shop.thecheesecakefactory.com/orstore/ShowItem.aspx?productID=07134
01:35.27orchidDisconnect from ('irc.freenode.net', 6667): Bad file descriptor
01:35.41*** join/#project24 Guu (~girlbot@toronto-hs-64-26-176-100.s-ip.magma.ca)
01:35.42orchidfreenode seems to be kicking her
01:36.07orchidPRIVMSG Guu :Error: You don't have the "#bzflag.op" capability.
01:36.43orchidis it set to somehow gain op in #commits and #bz?
01:37.06orchidomg look at that cheesecake!
01:37.09JBdiGrizI didn't think it was trying to gain op, just joining. Doublecheck the init script
01:38.02Patlabor221I think I can send one to canada
01:38.09Patlabor221you would like it I think
01:38.19orchidi have no doubt
01:38.56JBdiGrizActually, you should send her here, and we'll take her out for cheesecake. :)
01:39.21orchidbelive me, id love to leave here sometimes
01:39.43JBdiGrizespecially in december/january if you're coming to so cal.
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01:41.36orchid!list
01:41.36Guuorchid: Admin, Alias, Channel, ChannelDB, Debian, Factoids, Friendly, Fun, Google, Http, Karma, Lookup, Math, Misc, MoobotFactoids, Movies, Owner, QuoteGrabs, Quotes, RSS, Services, Status, Todo, Topic, URL, Unix, User
01:42.02JBdiGriz!load fundb
01:42.02GuuJBdiGriz: The operation succeeded.
01:42.26orchid!googlelinux freebsd manual
01:42.27Guuorchid: Error: 'googlelinux' is not a valid command.
01:42.37orchid!help google
01:42.37Guuorchid: (google <search> [--{language,restrict}=<value>] [--{notsafe,similar}]) -- Searches google.com for the given string.  As many results as can fit are included.  --language accepts a language abbreviation; --restrict restricts the results to certain classes of things; --similar tells Google not to filter similar results. --notsafe allows possibly work-unsafe results.
01:43.18JBdiGrizis guu still getting the op error?
01:43.27orchiddosent seem to
01:43.46JBdiGrizhow about the error in accessing random that was happening?
01:43.56orchidException ('random') raised by QuoteGrabs.doPrivmsg
01:43.59orchidyes
01:44.04orchidgetti ng lots of those
01:44.30JBdiGrizwe should fix those, I'm checking to see if he's released the next version like he said he would
01:45.11JBdiGrizYesterday. We should try that, and then fix the problems.
01:45.28orchidso install the release version?
01:46.08JBdiGrizIt's probably a good idea when you have the time. Move the old directories out of the way so that we don't have old versions being loaded.
01:46.37orchidyes, but we need the old db's?
01:48.17orchid!google freebsd manual --linux
01:48.21Guuorchid: Search took 0.532753 seconds:  Using CVSup: <http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html>; DOSSIER - Kernel: <http://www.ptf.com/dossier/sets/Kern.shtml>; DOSSIER - File Systems: <http://www.ptf.com/dossier/sets/File.shtml>; Old FreeBSD Manual Pages [Was: Input/output error]: <http://listserver.uk.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-users/ (3 more messages)
01:50.55JBdiGrizThe old db's should be in sql-lite. We might have to dump them and re-enter the data. I can check if there are upgrade notes.
02:02.33*** join/#project24 Patlabor221 (~JeffM@adsl-64-167-79-242.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net)
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03:40.01Guuproject24: 03JeffM * 12project24/ (8 files in 5 dirs):
03:40.03Guuproject24: consolodate network messages into netMessages.h
03:40.04Guuproject24: move magic number def to version.h
03:50.32*** join/#project24 orchid (~leena@toronto-hs-64-26-176-100.s-ip.magma.ca)
03:58.11Guuproject24: 03JeffM * 12project24/client (4 files in 3 dirs): get client to start loging into the list server
07:15.41Guuproject24: 03JeffM * 12project24/ (7 files in 5 dirs):
07:15.42Guuproject24: remove client version.h
07:15.43Guuproject24: move prefs and defaults to defaults.h
07:15.44Guuproject24: add message processing to client list server connection class.
07:15.45Guuproject24: add more net messages
07:15.46Guuproject24: move all list server messages into common.
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16:52.37JBdiGrizDid you see thee reference to the O'Reilly interview with Tim and crs?
16:52.53Patlabor221?
16:53.40JBdiGrizhttp://linux.oreillynet.com/pub/a/linux/2003/11/20/bzflag.html
16:53.55JBdiGrizNoodleman posted it in #bzflag
16:55.38Patlabor221heh one of those are my screenshots
16:56.23Patlabor221really, so Chris plans some changes soon?
16:57.18JBdiGrizI wonder if Chris is watching the plans for project24. It sounds like he has.
16:58.26Patlabor221I haven't even seen him in channel in over a year
16:59.16Patlabor221it's some interesting talk
16:59.33Patlabor221when was it done?
16:59.56JBdiGrizThe date on the byline is 11/20/03.
17:00.12Patlabor221but that dosn' say when the interview was
17:00.48JBdiGrizI know as much about it as you do at this point. I can tell those screenshots are from 1.9.
17:00.52Patlabor221tho it does talk about that karma trust thing
17:01.27JBdiGrizand the vote system rigging :)
17:02.45Patlabor221I still don't feel that a karma system makes a gmae "cheap proof"
17:05.01JBdiGrizOf course not, but it is another tool for making it easier to admin. I can choose to open my server only to people at a certain karma level, and if people want that level of trust, they will play there.
17:05.20JBdiGrizOf course, there will be abuse of the karma system, which requires intervention of an admin again.
17:05.33Patlabor221yeah asuming the comunity is seeded with enough, but not too many trusted active kama issues
17:06.15JBdiGrizI've noticed that larsl's login only server isn't used terribly much.
17:06.39Patlabor221yeah
17:06.45Patlabor221the comunity is way to small
17:06.55Patlabor221and now we are back to Tim rejecting patchs
17:08.07JBdiGrizLuckily, there's another outlet for people's creative urges. The hard part is to channel the people towards it.
17:09.56Patlabor221Learner is gonna set up CVS snaps on asgard :)
17:27.03Guuproject24: 03JeffM * 12nivie/Utils (2 files in 2 dirs): Add OSUrlError for launching an update URL on an error
17:34.48*** join/#project24 orchid (~bzgirl@toronto-hs-64-26-176-100.s-ip.magma.ca)
17:35.00JBdiGrizHow's lunch?
17:35.41orchidim at home
17:35.53orchidi wasnt feeling well so took the day off
17:36.17JBdiGrizAre you eating your chicken soup?
17:36.25Patlabor221hor cheesecake
17:37.07orchidnope, tunasalad
17:38.03JBdiGrizDid you see the reference to the O'Reilly interview with tim and crs?
17:38.42orchidyes i saw it this morning
17:39.26orchidno BSD for me jb, i cant get my hard drive to be seen so i might have to purchase a mobo after christmas
17:40.29JBdiGrizalas,
17:40.52JBdiGrizI've never had a problem with installing BSD. Is there anything unusual about your machine?
17:43.07orchidits unusual in that it wont recognize the hard drive :)
18:00.21Guuproject24: 03JeffM * 12nivie/Utils/src (Utils.cpp): Fix URL dialog to upen the proper app on windows.
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18:27.12Guuproject24: 03JeffM * 12project24/client (4 files in 2 dirs):
18:27.13Guuproject24: client now connects to list server
18:27.14Guuproject24: client now takes command line args
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21:25.06Guuproject24: 03JeffM * 12project24/gameLibs/testGame/server (3 files in 3 dirs): properly export init function
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23:55.08JBdiGrizI wish to declare that I have never been on bzg's back, or her front, or touched any part of her, no matter what scurrilous lies she tells about me.
23:55.32orchidfiguratively
23:56.00orchidanyway it wont happen as i cannot upgrade the bios
23:56.13orchidso i need new hardware which isnt worth it
23:57.52learner*cough* heheh *cough* *cough*..

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