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| 03:13.02 | Harbinger | hey |
| 03:13.35 | Harbinger | does any one know where can I find good documentation on how to set up picogui with VS6? |
| 03:14.15 | file[bed] | no |
| 03:14.39 | Harbinger | ok |
| 03:15.23 | file[bed] | :) |
| 03:16.19 | scanline | Harbinger: all the windows support for picogui is experimental, there's no documentation |
| 03:16.31 | scanline | Harbinger: you might ask Dentoid when he's around, either here or in #crystalspace |
| 03:16.45 | Harbinger | sounds like a plan thanks. |
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| 07:01.05 | Martyn | Micah, you awake? |
| 07:01.11 | Martyn | (not that I think there's a chance in heck .. but..) |
| 07:02.12 | scanline | yep |
| 07:02.25 | scanline | it's only just past midnight here |
| 07:04.11 | Martyn | cool. |
| 07:04.29 | Martyn | Remember a loooong ass while ago, I was fiddling with the Helio? |
| 07:04.39 | Martyn | Would you believe I only just now got a stable kernel build? |
| 07:05.36 | scanline | hah |
| 07:05.44 | scanline | I'm a little surprised anyone still cares about the helio |
| 07:06.08 | Martyn | I was about to throw it away .. then figured I'd boot it for "old times sake" |
| 07:06.17 | scanline | heheh |
| 07:06.18 | Martyn | Amazing what a year's worth of kernel development experience can do. |
| 07:06.44 | scanline | wrote a few drivers for USB devices I built |
| 07:06.45 | Martyn | A problem I found -totally- intractable two years ago, I solved in 30 minutes ... even got the damned digitizer working. |
| 07:06.53 | scanline | cool |
| 07:07.16 | Martyn | Heh .. and now it goes into the trashbin .. |
| 07:07.18 | Martyn | Oh well :} |
| 07:07.23 | Martyn | So, how goes picoGUI? |
| 07:07.26 | scanline | why not upload it somewhere? |
| 07:07.28 | Martyn | Did you ever get that new webpage up? |
| 07:07.35 | scanline | new webpage? |
| 07:07.49 | scanline | there's picogui.org... |
| 07:07.56 | scanline | I haven't been working on picogui for a while |
| 07:08.07 | Martyn | scanline : Oh, it's a COMPLETE hack-together. There's an old saying .. "If you touch it, you own it." .. the helio-kernel is better off buried. |
| 07:08.17 | scanline | realized all the things I hated about the current codebase, planned out a new one, then realized I was tired of GUIs altogether |
| 07:08.26 | scanline | heheh |
| 07:09.11 | Martyn | Can't blame you |
| 07:09.21 | Martyn | It's the same reason nano-X is stalled |
| 07:09.33 | Martyn | Only QTopia has much steam these days, in the embedded-open-source side of things |
| 07:09.39 | Martyn | nxlib is a mess. |
| 07:10.09 | Martyn | I'm going to start contributing to nxlib and trying to get fltk 1.1.4 working on top of nano-X |
| 07:10.28 | Martyn | and finish off a port of rxvt to native nano-X API calls. |
| 07:11.19 | scanline | most current GUIs are the same |
| 07:11.22 | scanline | and the ones that aren't, nobody uses |
| 07:11.58 | scanline | I has having a fine time working on picogui as an experiment, then people started using it, and spreading propaganda about it |
| 07:12.04 | scanline | people saying it should replace X, etc |
| 07:12.23 | scanline | I still hope to implement pg2, or at least the cool parts of it, in the future |
| 07:12.28 | scanline | but I'm still burnt out on GUIs |
| 07:12.36 | Martyn | I bet :} |
| 07:12.53 | scanline | it's an area where people expect innovation, but hate it when it actually happens |
| 07:13.12 | scanline | some of my ideas for pg2 I think could really help change that |
| 07:13.22 | scanline | but I'd really rather open that can of worms yet |
| 07:14.24 | Martyn | Heh.. well, my build just died.. so, I'm headed to bed. |
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