| 00:09.34 | zak | +line |
| 00:09.47 | zak | you can only unpoke half at a time |
| 00:10.15 | scanline | +line |
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| 00:16.07 | zak | lol |
| 00:16.20 | zak | scanline: want you food? |
| 00:16.28 | scanline | indee |
| 00:16.31 | scanline | er, indeedy |
| 00:18.43 | zak | nowish? |
| 00:19.03 | scanline | sure |
| 00:19.04 | scanline | ish |
| 00:19.18 | zak | rigggghhhhhhhtttt |
| 00:20.45 | zak | ok |
| 00:20.46 | zak | let's go |
| 00:20.49 | scanline | ok |
| 00:27.46 | Sophie | allo |
| 00:28.14 | Sophie | anybody here use Plone? |
| 00:29.21 | Sophie | hrm. |
| 00:35.31 | gonkulator | hey Sophie |
| 00:40.31 | Sophie | heya gonkey |
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| 04:33.54 | scanline | lalo[out]: viewsvn fixed |
| 07:09.51 | bornet | hi scanline |
| 07:10.40 | scanline | hi PuckCh |
| 07:11.10 | PuckCh | the svn repository seems to rock now :-))) |
| 07:11.15 | scanline | cool :) |
| 07:11.28 | scanline | looks like recompiling subversion with db4.0 rather than 4.1 fixed all the problems |
| 07:12.10 | PuckCh | very fast : I have computed about 600Kbits/s on my 512Kbits/s adsl connection... |
| 07:12.18 | PuckCh | is svn doing some compression ? |
| 07:12.45 | scanline | it supports apache's mod_deflate... I'm not sure if it's using it at the moment |
| 07:14.52 | PuckCh | do you always plan to switch repository to tass ? |
| 07:15.15 | scanline | I'm not sure |
| 07:15.45 | scanline | if it's still fast enough after I move home and it has to run from a cable modem, I'd rather stay on a server that I have root on :) |
| 07:16.05 | PuckCh | good reason. ;-) |
| 07:16.33 | scanline | it was a heck of a lot easier to configure everything on navi. On tass I had to work completely out of my home directory, and there's not much free disk space |
| 07:16.58 | PuckCh | yes, i have see this problem. |
| 07:17.43 | PuckCh | ok. so, i will do some tests of compilations this morning with the new repository. |
| 07:17.52 | scanline | great |
| 07:18.06 | scanline | pgserver and the client libs should still work fine |
| 07:18.15 | scanline | most of the build system from apps is still missing though |
| 07:18.29 | PuckCh | with the old autoconf/automake stuff ? |
| 07:18.41 | scanline | yes |
| 07:18.53 | scanline | I'm working on the new build system, but I haven't removed the old one yet (mostly) |
| 07:19.11 | scanline | I temporarily removed the build system from apps because of all the things I moved around |
| 07:19.50 | PuckCh | great. i will test this, and maybe put the build system in the apps if i have time. |
| 07:20.00 | scanline | cool |
| 07:20.47 | PuckCh | just one remark : it will be great to put the svn access info in wiki (url, https certificate, ...) |
| 07:21.04 | scanline | ah, thanks for reminding me |
| 07:21.26 | scanline | I should actually put it in as a regular plone document, and add it to the links sidebar |
| 07:21.47 | scanline | download URLs probably shouldn't be editable by just anyone :) |
| 07:22.46 | PuckCh | I agree. |
| 07:43.53 | scanline | http://picogui.org/links/repository. |
| 07:43.57 | scanline | er |
| 07:43.59 | scanline | http://picogui.org/links/repository |
| 07:46.58 | PuckCh | great. just one comment. You wrote: |
| 07:47.01 | PuckCh | http://navi.picogui.org:8080/snakeoil-ca-rsa.crt |
| 07:47.24 | PuckCh | hoops... my fault (damn font display in galeon...) |
| 07:47.33 | scanline | :) |
| 07:47.41 | PuckCh | i don't have see correctly the 8080. but it's ok.$ |
| 08:31.15 | PuckCh | scanline: do you use emacs for editing ? |
| 08:31.20 | scanline | usually |
| 08:32.04 | PuckCh | i'm now trying to put the autoconf system in apps. I have this message when I want to save a new file (Makefile.am): |
| 08:32.33 | PuckCh | Couldn't parse output from 'svn status -v' |
| 08:32.38 | PuckCh | do you have this also ? |
| 08:35.53 | scanline | nope. I'm not using emacs' svn mode |
| 08:36.52 | PuckCh | i was thinking not too... but seems it's active by default... i will disable it. |
| 08:46.15 | PuckCh | (debian subversion package load it by default in /etc/emacs/site-start.d) :-( |
| 08:46.34 | scanline | the debian subversion packages are pretty messed up... |
| 08:46.49 | scanline | it should be fine as a client, but as a server it was terrible |
| 08:47.04 | PuckCh | it's in sid... |
| 09:23.45 | PuckCh | pgl/pgl-launcher/pgl-launcher.c includes res_c/res_c.h. Do you known from where it's come ? |
| 09:24.39 | scanline | eh, I deleted it :) |
| 09:24.57 | scanline | res_c never worked, and we're not planning on fixing it |
| 09:25.15 | PuckCh | ok. so I remove pgl from the autoconf/automake. |
| 09:25.16 | scanline | we should revert pgl to before it had res_c added to it |
| 09:25.23 | scanline | or that works |
| 09:26.24 | PuckCh | ok. i will commit the auto* stuff, without pgl, and then, look if I can revert to an old version (altough I don't use it...) |
| 09:29.31 | scanline | looks like revision 2919 maybe |
| 09:46.16 | lalo | good morning |
| 09:48.38 | PuckCh | hello |
| 09:49.20 | PuckCh | scanline: do you agree if I put some svn:ignore on the repository (mainly generated file for autoconf/automake, like Makefile.in) ? |
| 09:49.56 | scanline | hi lalo |
| 09:50.03 | scanline | PuckCh: that'd be great |
| 09:50.15 | PuckCh | scanline: ok. i do this now. |
| 09:55.13 | scanline | well, I should get some sleep |
| 09:55.16 | scanline | PuckCh: thanks for your help! |
| 09:56.12 | PuckCh | scanline: no problem. good night. |
| 09:56.24 | lalo | nite scanline |
| 09:56.30 | scanline | g'night |
| 09:58.05 | lalo | scanline: can you check the list before you go? or are you gone already? |
| 09:58.35 | lalo | too late I guess :-) |
| 10:00.45 | PuckCh | strange, only 4:00 am, and scanline is sleeping... ;-) |
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| 11:23.50 | PuckCh | lalo: can you do a "small" test for me with svn ? |
| 12:18.04 | lalo | PuckCh: sorry, I was away |
| 12:18.08 | lalo | do you still need it? |
| 12:19.37 | PuckCh | hi. yes. can you do this : |
| 12:19.39 | PuckCh | svn diff -r3756 client/python/PicoGUI/Server.py |
| 12:19.41 | PuckCh | ? |
| 12:20.02 | PuckCh | (access a revision older than the start of the svn repository) |
| 12:20.49 | PuckCh | the log seems ok, but I can't get old revision, or diff with them. |
| 12:21.24 | PuckCh | but maybe it's because the file has moved since the revision I'm trying to get/diff. |
| 12:22.30 | PuckCh | (the svn command I gave is a sample. what I'm interested is in the apps (pgl)) |
| 12:22.42 | PuckCh | but it's the same error for me. |
| 12:24.59 | lalo | file not found |
| 12:25.40 | lalo | I think it's a syntax quirk |
| 12:25.56 | lalo | or perhaps svn's move support isn's as smart as they claim ;-) |
| 12:26.36 | PuckCh | right. i will ask on #svn to see if there is some answers. thanks for the test. |
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| 14:25.09 | carpman{mayuka} | hi lalo |
| 14:25.53 | lalo | hey carpman{mayuka} |
| 14:26.48 | carpman{mayuka} | lalo: I was thinking about the threading problem. I think we might be able to steal a page from the defunct multi threaded event branch of AoF. How about making a queue of outbound packets that are processed by another thread. Instead of controling the connection directly, we just put packets into the queue. |
| 14:28.05 | carpman{mayuka} | I don't have a copy of the cli_python source with me here at work, so I don't know if what I just said is insane or not, but from what I remember, this might be feasible. |
| 14:29.32 | lalo | the problem is that the way cli_python is structured, things are a bit more synchronous than that |
| 14:29.56 | lalo | many requests are treated like an RPC... and expect to return a response |
| 14:30.02 | carpman{mayuka} | so we send a packet and have to wait for the return? |
| 14:30.07 | carpman{mayuka} | ah, I was worried about that. |
| 14:30.49 | lalo | so what I was trying to do with the thread model is more or less that... except that threads block waiting for their reply |
| 14:31.09 | carpman{mayuka} | well, in the structure of the AoF Session events, I can't set up the app first, before I start it. |
| 14:31.18 | lalo | the reason why it doesnt work seems to be a weird race condition |
| 14:31.36 | lalo | ah great, I have no apostrophe :-/ |
| 14:31.44 | carpman{mayuka} | hehe |
| 14:32.57 | carpman{mayuka} | do the picogui packets have some kind of id or signature that is uniqe? |
| 14:33.10 | lalo | yes |
| 14:33.31 | carpman{mayuka} | thats how I got around this in AoF, each packet had a unique ID, so I could corelate responses with sent packets. |
| 14:33.34 | lalo | it is optional but cli_python is already sending them |
| 14:33.44 | lalo | that is not the problem |
| 14:33.55 | lalo | the problem is, the Wait request is special |
| 14:34.36 | lalo | the app is expected to spend most of its lifetime waiting for a response to this request |
| 14:37.03 | PuckCh | lalo: do you want to known how to compare a file with an old revision when you have moved it ? ;-) |
| 14:38.49 | PuckCh | a sample: |
| 14:38.52 | PuckCh | svn diff http://navi.picogui.org:8080/svn/picogui/trunk/pg1/client/python/PicoGUI/Server.py@3816 http://navi.picogui.org:8080/svn/picogui/trunk/cli_python/PicoGUI/Server.py@3727 |
| 14:38.57 | lalo | aha, gkb to the rescue |
| 14:39.00 | lalo | ''"" |
| 14:39.24 | lalo | PuckCh: yuck :-) |
| 14:39.35 | lalo | glad to know it is possible, yet |
| 14:39.44 | lalo | ok.. I |
| 14:39.52 | PuckCh | just doing "svn diff -r3727" in planned, but not working now. |
| 14:40.27 | lalo | ok.. I'll have to restart X, still trying to get the session setup right |
| 14:40.29 | lalo | brb |
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| 17:28.36 | PuckCh | hi scanline |
| 17:28.42 | scanline | hi PuckCh |
| 17:29.07 | PuckCh | just to let you know, it not really easy to diff with a moved file... |
| 17:29.33 | scanline | I saw your discussion in #svn |
| 17:30.24 | PuckCh | i don't even have seen e method to diff two release of a file before it was moved... |
| 17:30.25 | scanline | it might just be easier to go into sourceforge's ViewCVS, find the right revisions, and download them into your working copy, then commit |
| 17:30.45 | PuckCh | i have co both revision, and do the diff on them. |
| 17:31.40 | PuckCh | ok. i must go now. good day, and maybe later |
| 17:32.22 | scanline | Ok. I should be going too, so see you later |
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| 18:16.16 | scanline | hi DevGirl! |
| 18:20.38 | zak | all told |
| 18:20.50 | zak | hehehe |
| 18:21.06 | zak | yea for me |
| 18:23.46 | DevGirl | hiya, scanline |
| 18:23.52 | zak | scanline: my face still hurts |
| 18:23.55 | zak | and my ears |
| 18:23.57 | scanline | zak: your face? |
| 18:24.00 | zak | sinus' |
| 18:24.02 | scanline | ohh |
| 18:24.13 | zak | i put a heat thingy on it, and that helped some |
| 18:24.28 | zak | but only if i kept it there and i am not taking a heat thingy to my test |
| 18:24.39 | DevGirl | zak: eeeek! i habe it too :P |
| 18:25.01 | zak | DevGirl: i'm sorry |
| 18:25.29 | scanline | =( |
| 18:25.32 | zak | that's ok...i am going to finish moving out after my test, and then i think me and my heat thingy are going to pass out |
| 18:27.45 | zak | scanline: why would a computer crash every time someone ran a game? not enough memory? |
| 18:28.11 | scanline | there could be a lot of reasons... bug in the OS maybe? |
| 18:28.45 | zak | well the friend in reference is running windows.... |
| 18:28.59 | zak | but i don't have a problem with it usually |
| 18:29.23 | zak | but zak = special |
| 18:29.30 | scanline | it would help to know how the computer is crashing... |
| 18:29.39 | scanline | does it explode, turn off, give you an error... |
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| 19:11.33 | lalo | hey |
| 19:11.38 | lalo | scanline: XDirectFB :-) |
| 19:13.45 | lalo | it's mightly scary to have everything translucent, including SDL stuff |
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| 19:19.20 | Dentoid | Hey |
| 19:20.46 | balor | scanline: you were looking for me? |
| 19:22.26 | Dentoid | Hmm... I saw there's binaries for windows now, so I downloaded them and they run fine. (I get the blank pico server window.) |
| 19:22.45 | Dentoid | Any quick start tips on where to get some app to test with? (Can't find anything on the wiki, etc) |
| 19:25.32 | lalo | Dentoid: I'll be working on it this week |
| 19:26.03 | lalo | right now, all you can do is run cli_python; for that, download python for windows from www.python.org and get the cli_python subtree from the picogui source tarball |
| 19:26.27 | Dentoid | Yeah I've got python, and I'm currently checking out from subversion (was gonna see if I could find anything in there) |
| 19:26.40 | lalo | once your python is set up and you install cli_python, you can run the demos in the "samples" subdir |
| 19:26.56 | Dentoid | Ah, ok. I'll check that out then. Thanks. |
| 19:27.00 | lalo | ok, in svn it's pg1/client/python |
| 19:27.23 | Dentoid | Aight |
| 19:27.52 | lalo | you'll probably also want some themes ;-) |
| 19:28.01 | lalo | but you have to compile them on linux |
| 19:28.16 | Dentoid | Oh. Hmm. |
| 19:28.49 | lalo | the .th files |
| 19:28.52 | Dentoid | That's the brakes. :) |
| 19:28.54 | lalo | picogui is quite ugly without them |
| 19:29.06 | lalo | but it runs, for sure. |
| 19:29.19 | Dentoid | Ok, I'll try it anyway then, and see if I can get some output at all. |
| 19:29.25 | lalo | you can |
| 19:29.39 | lalo | if you got the blank window, you'll be able to run python clients. |
| 19:29.45 | Dentoid | If everything works as it should, that is. :) |
| 19:29.54 | lalo | getting the blank window is the problematic point :-) |
| 19:30.22 | Dentoid | Ah :) |
| 19:30.33 | lalo | then if the looks start to bother you, we can probably upload some .th files somewhere |
| 19:31.01 | lalo | the screenshot on picogui.org was taken with fluidity which is my personal favourite |
| 19:32.01 | Dentoid | I like the aqua-ripoffs best. :) |
| 19:32.22 | Dentoid | Of what I've seen. |
| 19:33.02 | Dentoid | Hmm, seems like checking out all of the repository was a bit of an overkill. :) |
| 19:34.27 | Dentoid | What kind of file is a .th? |
| 19:34.37 | file | compiled theme. |
| 19:35.02 | file | a .ths is a theme source file, then you use the theme compiler to compile it into a .th |
| 19:35.09 | file | (which is what you use with PicoGUI) |
| 19:38.07 | Dentoid | Well, what I meant was more like... Is it pure data, or is it executable somehow, or what is it? |
| 19:44.38 | lalo | it's pure data |
| 19:46.55 | Dentoid | Ah, ok. |
| 19:51.55 | lalo | Dentoid: http://old.picogui.org/themes/ - dunno how old these binaries are outdated, perhaps they still work |
| 19:52.11 | lalo | you use them by calling pgserver from the command line, pgserver -t filename.th |
| 19:52.12 | Dentoid | Thanx, I'll test them (when the checkout is complete :) |
| 19:52.20 | Dentoid | Yeah I saw that :) |
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| 19:53.06 | lalo | hey DevGirl |
| 19:53.11 | Dentoid | My gawd |
| 19:53.16 | Dentoid | "Monochrome Sphere Cursor" is lethal :) |
| 19:53.17 | DevGirl | hey, lalo |
| 19:53.35 | lalo | hey DevBoy, hey DevGirl... |
| 19:53.40 | lalo | here we go... |
| 19:54.29 | Dentoid | Actually it's "hey girl, hey boy", although the song is called "hey boy, hey girl" :) |
| 19:55.05 | Dentoid | Very confusing. :) |
| 19:55.12 | lalo | that's right, now that you mentioned... but I never noticed :-) |
| 19:55.34 | DevGirl | is lalo who make me work... |
| 19:55.44 | lalo | there is a very classic case, the Beatles song is titled "I Want to Hold your Hand" and sung "I wanna hold your hand" |
| 19:56.02 | lalo | probably influence of their manager |
| 19:56.32 | Dentoid | The one that wanted them to sing "She loves me yes, yes, yes"? :) |
| 19:56.40 | lalo | hehehe |
| 19:57.43 | lalo | but wanna/want to is just a slight variation |
| 19:57.55 | lalo | this one is funnier, granted |
| 19:58.06 | lalo | balor: why is that? :-) |
| 20:05.46 | balor | lalo: my g/f went back to her parents and I'm not getting kissed |
| 20:07.00 | lalo | ana |
| 20:07.02 | lalo | aha. |
| 20:07.18 | lalo | I thought you were talking about the musical conversation :-) |
| 20:08.18 | Dentoid | Like "Hey girl, hey boy, hey hemaphrodite"? :) |
| 20:10.29 | scanline | lalo, Dentoid: the theme files at http://old.picogui.org/themes should be fairly up to date, since they're what I'm linking to in the picogui themes on freshmeat |
| 20:10.42 | Dentoid | Ah, ok |
| 20:11.06 | scanline | and at worst, they'll still work- just might not have a feature or bugfix that's been added in CVS/Subversion |
| 20:11.21 | scanline | there hasn't been a major change to the file format in a long time |
| 20:11.43 | scanline | welcome back, zak |
| 20:12.01 | zak | 3 down! |
| 20:12.03 | zak | 1 to go |
| 20:12.06 | Dentoid | scanline, any special things to think about when installing the python client on win? |
| 20:12.31 | Dentoid | scanline, the readme says "--prefix=/usr/local", which I guess isn't applicable. :) |
| 20:12.45 | scanline | Dentoid: hmm... dunno. If clients/python/PicoGUI is copied to or added to your python path, it should just work |
| 20:12.53 | scanline | I don't know much about python on windows yet |
| 20:13.06 | Dentoid | Hmm, yeah I guess. :) |
| 20:13.18 | scanline | though I did test my MiniSVN module on windows... it was cute seeing it Just Work (tm) with windows-style path names |
| 20:13.29 | lalo | Dentoid: I did just "python setup.py install" and it works |
| 20:13.40 | Dentoid | Ah, neat. |
| 20:13.59 | scanline | http://navi.picogui.org:8080/svn/picogui/trunk/media/blender/ <-- fun with blender and a picogui logo |
| 20:15.14 | captain_proton | ooo |
| 20:15.57 | scanline | pglogo_glass.png and pglogo_top.png have alpha channels :) |
| 20:17.06 | captain_proton | i really like glass |
| 20:17.18 | scanline | I should redo that one though... the grayish line you see below the logo itself isn't supposed to be there |
| 20:17.18 | captain_proton | you should put up a smaller rendering of glass as the logo on the site ;) |
| 20:17.56 | balor | The glass one (spinning) would make a great busy icon |
| 20:18.10 | scanline | hehe |
| 20:18.24 | scanline | hmm, neat.. it seems to look good on black or white |
| 20:18.28 | scanline | yay for RGBA rendering |
| 20:18.34 | lalo | scanline: they look absolutely dazzling on xdfb :-) |
| 20:18.42 | scanline | hehe |
| 20:19.36 | lalo | DevGirl: this "glass" one is perfect for what you were talking about |
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| 20:33.40 | DevGirl | lalo: what was I talking about? |
| 20:35.13 | Dentoid | Hmm, is there some python app to try in pico? |
| 20:36.21 | Dentoid | Ah sorry, found it. |
| 20:36.23 | scanline | try nifty :) |
| 20:37.19 | Dentoid | Woo, it works. (Hello world. :) |
| 20:37.39 | scanline | ah, plus there are those |
| 20:41.01 | scanline | http://old.picogui.org/download/webpage_glass_mockup.png |
| 20:41.35 | Dentoid | The 2D one is cleaner IMO |
| 20:41.52 | lalo | nifty will probably bork uglily |
| 20:41.59 | Dentoid | What's "nifty"? |
| 20:42.09 | lalo | a scriptable editor |
| 20:42.16 | Dentoid | Ah. |
| 20:42.21 | captain_proton | scanline: would look better if it was smaller and more subdued colors |
| 20:42.28 | Dentoid | The one merged up in the console in some video demos? |
| 20:42.48 | scanline | captain_proton: yeah, it doesn't match the rest of the web page at all, whereas the original one did perfectly :) |
| 20:44.19 | Dentoid | scanline, looks neat. If this works in CS (which I don't think is far away), it's prolly gonna be great. :) |
| 20:44.50 | Dentoid|Uphigh | Gonna play IL-2 Sturmovik |
| 20:44.53 | scanline | climbing a mountain? |
| 20:45.00 | scanline | ah |
| 20:45.20 | Dentoid|Uphigh | Btw, quick question before I go: |
| 20:45.27 | Dentoid|Uphigh | Is it possible to have like multiple canvases? |
| 20:45.35 | Dentoid|Uphigh | or multiple servers, or something? |
| 20:45.42 | scanline | yes to both, I think |
| 20:46.02 | scanline | there is a "rootless" mode that lets you run each application in a separate window |
| 20:46.08 | scanline | but it's only implemented in X11 so far |
| 20:46.28 | scanline | and you can run multiple servers by specifying a display number, like in X |
| 20:46.36 | Dentoid|Uphigh | I don't know anything about X :) |
| 20:46.40 | Dentoid|Uphigh | Anyway, I'll be back later |
| 20:46.42 | scanline | ok |
| 20:46.43 | scanline | have fun |
| 20:46.46 | Dentoid|Uphigh | Thanks a lot for the help |
| 20:46.48 | Dentoid|Uphigh | See you later |
| 20:46.54 | scanline | :) |
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| 20:59.11 | lalo | cya |
| 20:59.18 | scanline | :( |
| 22:06.49 | Dentoid | scanline, pico works fine here. A bit boring apps, but what the hey. :) |
| 22:06.58 | scanline | yeah :) |
| 22:07.56 | Dentoid | It'll be interesting to see if it works in CS. |
| 22:17.05 | balor | does pico have a decent browser yet? |
| 22:17.19 | scanline | balor: no |
| 22:19.11 | balor | bugger |
| 22:43.36 | Oktal | scanline: i wasn't worried about csPGInputDriver::Construct() or csPGVideoDriver::Construct(), only csPGFontServer::Construct() because that part of the pgserver API uses quite a different, less flexible, approach for loading modules |
| 22:45.18 | scanline | Oktal: the input drivers are indeed pretty flexible- you can load them after init at pretty much any time. Video drivers are theoretically flexible in the same way, but that hasn't been tested so I woulndn't assume video will be any better behaved than font |
| 22:46.22 | Oktal | ok |
| 22:47.05 | Oktal | so what do you think would happen when i do bdf_regfunc(&my_struct_fontlib) ? |
| 22:48.27 | scanline | bdf_regfunc will fill up that struct with pointers to the bdf font engine's functions |
| 22:48.51 | scanline | if you called its init function, you should be able to use it to draw, regardless of what the globally installed font engine is |
| 22:49.35 | Oktal | ah |
| 22:50.08 | Oktal | i was trying to use it to overwrite the bdf engine's functions :) |
| 22:52.56 | Dentoid | Oktal, just been fooling around with the test apps. This beats AWS anyday. :) |
| 22:53.13 | Oktal | :) |
| 22:53.23 | scanline | brb, need coffee |
| 22:53.28 | Dentoid | Anyway, I'm off. See you layer. |
| 22:53.30 | Dentoid | layer |
| 22:53.32 | Dentoid | LATER |
| 22:53.34 | Dentoid | Bah. :) |
| 22:53.37 | Oktal | cu |
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