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| 02:06.47 | njs | scanline: love the emacs screenshot in there |
| 02:07.34 | scanline | was wondering how many people would recognize that ;) |
| 02:10.20 | njs | scanline: heh |
| 02:10.58 | zak | see told you so |
| 02:11.08 | scanline | zak: boing! |
| 02:11.28 | zak | shplat |
| 02:11.41 | scanline | squeech |
| 02:11.51 | njs | scanline: and the editor that happens to be scrolled up to show only the _comments_ on the new code is a nice touch. |
| 02:11.54 | njs | we got: http://issues.fresco.org/bug262 |
| 02:12.36 | scanline | hehe |
| 02:12.52 | scanline | captain_proton wanted me to backwardsify picogui.org |
| 02:13.23 | scanline | could have upsidedownized the text rendering in pgserver, though I doubt anyone would have noticed ;) |
| 02:13.37 | zak | some cleaning up is necessary |
| 02:13.41 | scanline | zak: okeydokey. brb |
| 02:13.52 | njs | I suspect nicholas, but I'm really not sure. |
| 02:26.17 | zak | scanline: poloink |
| 02:26.33 | scanline | biinp@ |
| 02:26.45 | zak | :) |
| 02:27.04 | zak | +c |
| 02:27.30 | zak | +g, also |
| 02:27.41 | scanline | whee |
| 02:31.40 | lalo[out] | cya |
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| 04:25.16 | merlin262 | uggghh |
| 04:25.23 | merlin262 | there is no way I'm going to pass all these tests |
| 04:25.26 | merlin262 | sooo... tired... |
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| 15:20.07 | scanline | morning Xentac |
| 15:27.29 | Xentac | morning scanlinen |
| 15:27.31 | Xentac | er... |
| 15:27.33 | Xentac | without the last n |
| 15:27.40 | scanline | mm.. linen.. |
| 15:27.46 | scanline | breakfast of penguins across the nation |
| 15:28.21 | Xentac | it went something like this, "m-o-r-n-i-n-g s-c-n-<tab>-<backspace>-a-<tab>-n" |
| 15:29.24 | scanline | hehe |
| 15:30.00 | Xentac | anyway... to avoid another late day, I should start eating breakgast now |
| 15:30.02 | Xentac | gah |
| 15:30.04 | Xentac | breakfast |
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| 15:47.13 | Xentac | excess representation.. where'd you see that? |
| 15:47.45 | scanline | it's a very silly way of representeing signed integers that these textbooks insist on teaching all the budding little computer engineering students |
| 15:50.05 | Zensunni | tell me.... have ANY of you found a uni/college/etc that knows anything at all about teaching coding? |
| 15:50.16 | scanline | hehe :) |
| 15:50.36 | Zensunni | hell, I used to work at a Uni.... |
| 15:50.56 | Zensunni | they hired me as a coder.... and I never finished high school.... |
| 16:05.17 | Xentac | scanline: I think we just learned two-compliment... and that's it... |
| 16:05.27 | scanline | Xentac: good |
| 16:06.12 | Xentac | oh yeah... and one's compliment... but that was only to say, "this is a stupid implementation, but it's sort of how we do two's compliment" |
| 16:06.44 | Xentac | scanline: did you hear that I've uploaded a bunch to navi? |
| 16:06.56 | scanline | oh? |
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| 16:07.14 | scanline | hi zak! |
| 16:07.15 | Xentac | They Might Be Giants - Particle Man... the one off of tiny toons |
| 16:07.44 | zak | 'howdy |
| 16:31.31 | lalo | hi all |
| 16:31.40 | scanline | morning lalo |
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| 16:33.56 | lalo | tired of hacking python to cope with the absence of dlopen and threads |
| 16:34.38 | lalo | of course that means I'll have to have my own init, busybox, whatnot |
| 16:34.59 | scanline | you should try to get openzaurus/openembedded to generate VR3 roms... would make this a lot easier |
| 16:36.11 | prpplague | scanline: i use the tuxscreen buildroot for several projects |
| 16:36.34 | scanline | prpplague: yeah.. but the stuff OE and OZ are doing is a lot cooler :) |
| 16:36.35 | prpplague | scanline: once i get back from field trips, i plan to start adding them into the OE buildroot instead |
| 16:36.44 | prpplague | scanline: right |
| 16:37.10 | prpplague | scanline: buildroot makes embedded life so much easier |
| 16:37.53 | scanline | should be especially helpful for less trendy platforms like the vr3 and helio |
| 16:38.39 | lalo | isn't openembedded tied to the zaurus architecture? |
| 16:38.56 | scanline | no |
| 16:39.08 | lalo | there's nothing too hard about building roots... the problem is compiling arch-specific stuff such as gbm |
| 16:39.22 | lalo | gee, I have no idea where I'm supposed to find the source for it |
| 16:39.25 | scanline | openzaurus was designed for the zaurus but works on a lot of platforms, and openembedded is being designed specifically to work on any embedded platform |
| 16:39.36 | scanline | what's gbm? |
| 16:41.00 | lalo | the daemon who converts the button presses to kernel keyboard presses, or something like that |
| 16:41.24 | scanline | hmm |
| 16:41.29 | scanline | #openembedded :) |
| 16:41.35 | scanline | or just bug kergoth about it |
| 17:08.25 | lalo | that might be a bit of prejudice but I don't use bitkeeper on principle |
| 17:08.37 | scanline | I agree |
| 17:08.52 | scanline | but you can use OZ without using bitkeeper... |
| 17:09.03 | scanline | there are snapshots |
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| 17:46.55 | gonk{work} | w00t JINGLE WOOSHIE! |
| 19:29.40 | zak | Dire: howdy |
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| 20:41.12 | lalo | this sucks |
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| 21:06.02 | lalo | hmm, bfd, of course. |
| 21:06.17 | file | wise lalo, tell me - when will PicoGUI have a web browser? |
| 21:06.33 | scanline | :-/ |
| 21:07.04 | lalo | file: about 6 months after someone decides to pay me to write one? ;-) no idea, perhaps it already does. |
| 21:07.15 | file | lalo: lol |
| 21:07.28 | lalo | scanline: you're allergic to bfds? sorry |
| 21:07.38 | scanline | hehe |
| 21:07.46 | lalo | cross-compiling *SUCKS* |
| 21:08.33 | scanline | depends |
| 21:09.01 | lalo | you know you're doing stuff that's too deep when ld segfaults |
| 21:09.22 | scanline | eh.. or that you have a buggy toolchain |
| 21:10.06 | lalo | maybe. I was using the same binutils as my gentoo install, but perhaps it's not stable enough, so right now I'm downgrading it to the latest release |
| 21:10.37 | scanline | I just had a crazy thought... |
| 21:10.38 | lalo | I wonder if I need to recompile gcc? hope not |
| 21:10.56 | lalo | tell me. |
| 21:11.01 | scanline | if pg2 has optional support for 3D, and the S2 engine idea is a lot like portal rendering... you could use pg2 as a 3D engine |
| 21:11.29 | lalo | o.O |
| 21:11.32 | lalo | yes you could |
| 21:11.46 | scanline | pretty useless, but comforting :) |
| 21:12.16 | lalo | yay! buggy ld it was |
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| 21:22.46 | lalo | why is it called S2? |
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| 21:54.59 | carpman{mayuka} | lalo: Evangelion. The S2 engine allowed the Evas to operate without chords or batteries. It's an infinite power source. |
| 21:55.44 | DevGirl | ACK! |
| 21:56.08 | carpman{mayuka} | There is nothing wrong with Evangelion. |
| 21:56.15 | carpman{mayuka} | Now, Hamtaro on the other hand... |
| 21:59.16 | lalo | carpman{mayuka}: that comparison is playing low |
| 22:06.42 | carpman{mayuka} | hehe. Ok. There is nothing wrong with Evangelion, Reign the Conqurer on the other hand... |
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