00:00.19 | file | ok |
00:02.20 | merlin262 | so, I do all this work so my PC can dualboot into Windows |
00:02.28 | merlin262 | and now, I've forgotten WHY i wanted it to dualboot into windows |
00:02.44 | darth_balls | lol |
00:02.46 | file | merlin262: lol |
00:03.29 | njs | merlin262: solitaire |
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00:15.19 | merlin262 | now starts the slow process of archiving all my mp3s, and files.... |
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00:46.15 | darth_balls | arg |
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00:50.34 | merlin262 | hey darth_ |
00:50.36 | merlin262 | hey darth_balls |
00:54.17 | darth_balls | hi merlin262 |
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00:57.09 | darth_balls | brb |
01:02.38 | darth_iBook | why won't this work? |
01:03.15 | darth_iBook | does anyone know how to get fluxbox to work on redhat 7.3? |
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01:05.46 | merlin262 | time to yank a hard drive |
01:05.49 | merlin262 | bbiab |
01:05.52 | merlin262 | (hopefully) |
01:20.54 | darth_iBook | well fuck |
01:20.59 | darth_iBook | PicoBot: seen scanline? |
01:20.59 | PicoBot | scanline was last seen on #picogui 2 hours, 23 minutes and 11 seconds ago, saying: chvt? [Sun Dec 1 16:02:24 2002] |
01:25.25 | file | great |
01:26.14 | Xentac | file: know how to play chess yet? |
01:26.18 | file | no |
01:26.34 | file | so ha |
01:26.42 | Xentac | Kidder: you there? |
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02:02.17 | file | I feel dead |
02:02.44 | merlin262{igen} | w00t |
02:02.45 | merlin262{igen} | life! |
02:07.41 | NonToxic | Hey!! |
02:07.46 | merlin262{igen} | hi NonToxic |
02:08.01 | file | so cold... |
02:08.08 | file | I need a drink, then I'm going to sleep |
02:08.12 | file | I hope I feel better tomorrow morning |
02:08.22 | NonToxic | Aww, not feeling well file? |
02:08.28 | file | NOOOOOOOOO! |
02:08.41 | file | I ache all over, and the pounding in my head is back |
02:08.48 | NonToxic | Not good. |
02:08.50 | NonToxic | Not good at all. |
02:09.01 | NonToxic | Staring at a screen is a BAD thing for a headache. |
02:09.10 | file | that's why I'm going to sleep |
02:09.34 | file | after I have a drink |
02:13.18 | merlin262{igen} | so I'm stuck on an ancient AMD K6-2 |
02:13.19 | merlin262{igen} | blehhhh |
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02:28.37 | kergoth | Xentac: i hate that. |
02:28.47 | Xentac | luckily I have till dec 06 on my telus bill... |
02:28.52 | Xentac | but my visa bill I forgot |
02:29.19 | Xentac | I believe you have to pay by dec 1st on that one... I don't know what /time/ on dec 1st though... |
02:29.38 | kergoth | I'm behind on a number of my bills atm, unfortunately |
02:31.10 | Xentac | nov 29th?!? damn... |
02:36.18 | captain_proton | PicoBot: seen scanline? |
02:36.19 | PicoBot | scanline was last seen on #picogui 3 hours, 38 minutes and 31 seconds ago, saying: chvt? [Sun Dec 1 16:02:24 2002] |
02:38.19 | scanline | captain_proton: hey |
02:38.28 | captain_proton | scanline: when you tromping back over here? |
02:38.32 | scanline | I'm still in Parker, but should be leaving for boulder around 7:00 |
02:38.41 | scanline | err, 8:00 |
02:38.49 | captain_proton | ah ok :) |
02:39.09 | captain_proton | hmm, 10:20 showing of solaris |
02:39.24 | scanline | hmm indeed |
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02:46.29 | scanline | time to throw everything in the car, bbl |
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02:48.27 | captain_proton | ahnkana: perhaps interested in solaris later? |
02:48.58 | ahnkana | captain_proton: what is that? |
02:49.07 | captain_proton | ahnkana: a movie |
02:49.22 | ahnkana | hmm....a good movie or a weird movie? |
02:49.36 | captain_proton | supposedly pretty good, the book was excellent |
02:51.11 | ahnkana | what about? |
02:51.52 | captain_proton | strange things happening at a space station above a planet |
02:52.08 | ahnkana | maybe |
02:52.15 | ahnkana | depends on how far i get on my hw |
02:59.36 | merlin262 | bleep |
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03:15.36 | darth_iBook | why does athena hate me so |
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03:16.15 | captain_proton | athena? as in xaw? |
03:16.26 | darth_iBook | captain_proton: pardon? |
03:16.37 | captain_proton | x athena widgets |
03:16.45 | captain_proton | aka ugliest toolkit ever |
03:16.49 | darth_iBook | no no |
03:16.53 | darth_iBook | athenaIRC |
03:16.56 | darth_iBook | for OSX |
03:16.57 | captain_proton | ohh |
03:17.00 | captain_proton | i dunno then |
03:17.03 | captain_proton | see yas |
03:17.53 | rev | someone should do an Xaw theme for OS X |
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03:36.51 | merlin262 | hi sad0ur |
03:37.23 | sad0ur | hi |
03:38.14 | sad0ur | must not sleep, couse i had to be at faculty in about 4 hours :/ |
03:39.18 | sad0ur | little bad thing is, that i didn't sleep too much during weekend :) |
03:40.56 | rev | is there any work to create a gecko-based browser for picogui? |
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03:41.36 | darth_iBook | hi ahnkana |
03:42.58 | sad0ur | i've noticed zsnes emulator at some sshot of picogui. does anyone have a tip for a nice ROM? |
03:43.47 | rev | really? |
03:45.39 | sad0ur | i've played chrono trigger. the gameplay is really nice. whole style reminds me dos game dreamweb (cool game). but chronotrigger is too simple & too er, infantile (not sure, if that's correct english:) ... :( |
03:46.22 | sad0ur | rev> that "really ?" was about zsnes running in picogui ? |
03:46.38 | rev | yes |
03:47.32 | sad0ur | i'm not completely sure, if that was zsnes(i guess so), just a moment... |
03:50.35 | sad0ur | yep, it was zsnes. via SDL |
03:50.59 | sad0ur | http://www.picogui.org/sshotdetail.php?index=83 |
03:51.14 | rev | oh |
03:51.19 | rev | i thought you meant picogui *in* snes |
03:51.23 | rev | like picogui ported to the snes |
03:52.56 | sad0ur | no :) |
03:53.24 | sad0ur | but there is screenshot of pg running on playstation |
03:54.09 | sad0ur | no, crap, it was dreamcast... |
03:54.11 | sad0ur | sorry :( |
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03:57.55 | rev | :) |
03:58.06 | Xentac | sad0ur: yeah... that's in the dreamcast linux port |
03:59.27 | Xentac | somewhat... |
03:59.34 | Xentac | even though he still has his queen.. |
03:59.44 | Xentac | and I lost mine in a stupid move... |
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04:00.50 | gonkulator | PicoBot: seen sc |
04:00.51 | PicoBot | I haven't seen 'sc', gonkulator |
04:00.55 | gonkulator | PicoBot: seen scanline |
04:00.56 | PicoBot | scanline was last seen on #picogui 1 hours, 14 minutes and 26 seconds ago, saying: time to throw everything in the car, bbl [Sun Dec 1 19:51:06 2002] |
04:01.11 | Xentac | I'd say I'm screwed... |
04:01.18 | gonkulator | Xentac: whats up? |
04:03.33 | Xentac | ouch... checkmated... |
04:06.38 | merlin262 | df -h |
04:06.47 | merlin262 | arghhhh, that's it! |
04:08.56 | Xentac | you remind me of that simpsons episode where Homer gets a gun... |
04:09.48 | merlin262 | :( |
04:10.05 | Xentac | well come on... you didn't think that shooting me would make me want to stay, did you? |
04:10.08 | Xentac | ;P |
04:11.01 | Xentac | ta ta |
04:11.16 | gonkulator | later Xentac |
04:12.08 | merlin262 | if Xentac leaves, who will i shoot? |
04:13.00 | dakoda | :) |
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04:16.02 | gonkulator | hey fractaldan |
04:16.19 | gonkulator | PicoBot: seen darth_iBook |
04:16.20 | PicoBot | darth_iBook was last seen on #picogui 34 minutes and 43 seconds ago, saying: hi ahnkana [Sun Dec 1 20:46:14 2002] |
04:16.24 | fractaldan | hi |
04:16.28 | gonkulator | fractaldan: whats up? |
04:16.41 | fractaldan | not much, I'm just watching adult swim |
04:17.52 | sad0ur | gonkulator: what's the time at your place ? |
04:17.59 | gonkulator | 9:22 PM |
04:18.20 | sad0ur | 05:29 here :) |
04:18.27 | sad0ur | (AM) |
04:18.47 | darth_iBook | hey fractaldan |
04:19.34 | gonkulator | fractaldan: LAN party |
04:19.38 | sad0ur | i have to be at university at 9:00, so... no sleep :) |
04:19.55 | sad0ur | or in university ? |
04:19.58 | gonkulator | fractaldan: Jai's house |
04:20.03 | gonkulator | fractaldan: December 31 |
04:20.08 | fractaldan | the LAN party was fun... until the hub left |
04:20.15 | fractaldan | coolness |
04:21.42 | gonkulator | sorry about that |
04:21.47 | gonkulator | brian wanted to get home |
04:21.55 | gonkulator | and I need that hub for my home network |
04:22.52 | fractaldan | thats fine, I just have to complain about it :P |
04:23.12 | gonkulator | oh, programming contest will be started next tuesday |
04:23.28 | gonkulator | the problem is a bit more complex than I anticipated (I am writting it right now) so it will be a 2 weeker |
04:25.01 | fractaldan | sounds interesting, looks like it will be a nice challange :) |
04:25.51 | fractaldan | do you know who is participating? |
04:26.06 | gonkulator | lots of people I hope |
04:26.31 | sad0ur | bye |
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04:26.53 | fractaldan | is darth_iBook darth_balls? |
04:27.01 | darth_iBook | yes |
04:27.06 | darth_iBook | only on an iBook |
04:27.10 | gonkulator | darth_iBook: fix it :) |
04:27.13 | darth_iBook | cuz my tower is being used for CS |
04:34.44 | dakoda | ok, if i start omnibar, and then connectfour, c4 doesnt show up until omni is closed. is this suposed to happen? |
04:35.00 | gonkulator | dakoda: I dunno |
04:35.35 | dakoda | (but starting c4 and then omni has both open at once.) i dunno either :) |
04:35.57 | gonkulator | I wrote c4, and I didn't put that bug in on purpose :) |
04:36.35 | dakoda | well, is it c4, omnibar, or pgserver? i think replacing c4 with scribble does the same thing |
04:36.51 | captain_proton | dum dadum |
04:36.56 | dakoda | or, maybe it's desired behaviour, and i havnt read enough docs yet :) |
04:36.57 | gonkulator | hey captain_proton |
04:37.12 | captain_proton | how goes gonkulator? |
04:37.17 | gonkulator | captain_proton: pretty good |
04:37.38 | gonkulator | captain_proton: you |
04:37.43 | captain_proton | doing ok |
04:38.31 | gonkulator | dakoda: if I had to guess, I would say it is an omni bug |
04:38.49 | captain_proton | all the stuff past last tuesday is scanline's work, i've been separated from a development environment |
04:39.13 | dakoda | gonkulator: ok :) i'll try other stuff and see what happens. thanks :) |
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04:41.49 | darth_iBook | time to boot back to linux |
04:42.12 | rev | LINUX PARTAY |
04:42.19 | rev | man linux blew hard on my ibook |
04:42.23 | rev | but now that i have this k6-2 again |
04:42.31 | rev | i'm glad to see linux isn't so sucky on pc hw |
04:45.52 | captain_proton | erf, where is scanline? |
04:46.17 | gonkulator | he is on his way back up to boulder |
04:49.58 | darth_iBook | yay linux is back |
04:50.11 | darth_iBook | dammit!Q |
04:50.21 | darth_iBook | it still booting into fvwm or whatever it is |
04:50.52 | rev | FUN |
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04:55.52 | captain_proton | scanline: welcome back to reality! |
04:56.09 | gonkulator | hey scanline |
04:56.31 | scanline | hehe |
04:56.32 | darth_iBook | hi scanline |
04:56.32 | scanline | thanks |
04:56.39 | darth_iBook | gonkulator: any idea how to help me? |
04:56.42 | darth_iBook | i'm really stuck |
04:56.57 | rev | yo scanny |
04:57.39 | scanline | hi rev |
04:57.49 | gonkulator | darth_iBook: rm -Rf ./.X* |
04:57.56 | scanline | darth_iBook: still trying to set up fluxbox? |
04:58.05 | darth_iBook | ya |
04:58.18 | darth_iBook | gonkulator: in my home directory? |
04:58.24 | gonkulator | darth_iBook: yes |
04:58.29 | gonkulator | darth_iBook: or, move them elsewhere |
04:58.30 | scanline | I don't remember exactly how redhat does it, but there's usually a file named ~/.Xsession or ~/.xsession or ~/.xclients that you can put a shell script to be run when X starts |
04:58.33 | scanline | gonkulator: that won't help |
04:58.45 | gonkulator | scanline: it won't? |
04:58.54 | darth_iBook | scanline: I'm stuck in fvwm right now |
04:59.00 | scanline | gonkulator: it will fall back on system-wide defaults if there's no X config in your home directory |
04:59.01 | darth_iBook | gonkulator is trying to help me get out of that |
04:59.03 | gonkulator | darth_iBook: that sucks |
04:59.04 | dakoda | darth: doe it run X automagically, or do you use startx? |
04:59.04 | scanline | hmm |
04:59.14 | darth_iBook | dakoda: I use startx |
04:59.24 | dakoda | if startx, you can just force the wm in there (towards the end) |
04:59.38 | darth_iBook | dakoda: how? |
04:59.40 | dakoda | that's what i do, rather than try to figure out how to do it 'right' :) |
05:00.13 | dakoda | pico `which startx`, comment out the wm nonsense at the end, and add icewm or whatever you happen to have |
05:01.06 | darth_iBook | comment what out? |
05:01.31 | dakoda | theres a pretty big chunk of stuff, probably depends on what distro you use |
05:01.39 | dakoda | (suse has a big chunk at the end at least) |
05:01.52 | darth_iBook | is it all those if...elif stuff? |
05:02.03 | dakoda | its a chunk like that (not all of those are for the wm though) |
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05:02.58 | dakoda | there's some environment var stuff, maybe look for a capitalized 'WM' or something? any comments in the file? or look for fvwm/fwm/twm or whatever it's using |
05:03.43 | darth_iBook | I'm not seeing anything that looks WM related to me |
05:04.19 | dakoda | what's the last if/elif/fi chunk look like? |
05:04.24 | darth_iBook | the comments aren't very helpful |
05:04.37 | darth_iBook | it's a deallocvt somthin |
05:05.00 | dakoda | hmm.. |
05:05.22 | darth_iBook | arg, I shoulda known better than to mess around w/ this |
05:05.32 | dakoda | sorry =( |
05:05.35 | dakoda | can you toss it up somewhere to look at? |
05:05.39 | darth_iBook | not your fault |
05:05.41 | darth_iBook | thanks anyway |
05:07.15 | dakoda | or maybe link the wm its running to the wm you want it to run. *shrugs* |
05:07.22 | scanline | eek |
05:07.34 | dakoda | that's really ugly though :) |
05:12.49 | gonkulator | darth_iBook: as well you should :) |
05:13.03 | gonkulator | when you get home, I'll be there while you do a gentoo install |
05:13.17 | captain_proton | scanline: lazy man |
05:15.17 | darth_iBook | w00t! |
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05:16.17 | dakoda | what did you have to do? |
05:16.25 | darth_balls | hehe, it was really simple |
05:16.31 | dakoda | figures :) |
05:16.46 | darth_balls | I created a .xintrc file in my home directory and put in two lines of code |
05:16.59 | darth_balls | exec /usr/local/bin/fluxbox |
05:17.03 | darth_balls | edit: |
05:17.06 | darth_balls | and it worked |
05:17.36 | dakoda | nice :) |
05:18.33 | darth_balls | now I gotta figure out how to change the desktop |
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05:20.44 | darth_balls | oops, shouldn't have closed that window |
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05:28.53 | darth_balls | hmm |
05:28.59 | darth_balls | fluxbox couldn't use my speakers |
05:29.02 | rev | hrm |
05:29.14 | gonkulator | do you have permissions to /dev/dsp? |
05:29.28 | darth_balls | wha? |
05:29.43 | gonkulator | cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp |
05:29.52 | gonkulator | that should make a terrible hissing noise |
05:29.55 | darth_balls | while in flux box? |
05:30.17 | gonkulator | as the user that fluxbox is running as |
05:30.32 | darth_balls | well, when I use KDE the speakers work |
05:30.34 | darth_balls | one sec |
05:31.11 | gonkulator | KDE might have pieces running as root |
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05:31.25 | gonkulator | KDE might have pieces running as root |
05:31.37 | dakoda | hmm, maybe dont cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp... that could hurt :) |
05:31.52 | darth_balls | when I run it it says: "arts_init error: can't connect to aRts soundserver" |
05:31.56 | darth_balls | when I click play in xmms |
05:32.15 | darth_balls | hmm |
05:32.18 | darth_balls | ok, speakers work |
05:32.24 | darth_balls | cuz gaim's sound works |
05:32.28 | darth_balls | but xmms won't play |
05:32.38 | dakoda | maybe because gaim already owns the speakers? |
05:32.52 | darth_balls | how can I change that? |
05:32.57 | dakoda | or, maybe mess with xmms's output plugin |
05:33.14 | dakoda | close gaim, start xmms playing, restart gaim. of course, arts is supposed to make this unnecessary... |
05:33.43 | darth_balls | nope, it still isn't working |
05:34.09 | gonkulator | darth_balls: do a killall -9 aRts :) |
05:34.34 | darth_balls | gonkulator: for real? |
05:34.46 | gonkulator | darth_balls: it couldn't hurt |
05:35.01 | darth_balls | no process killed |
05:35.26 | gonkulator | fluxbox might be trying to get direct access to /dev/dsp |
05:35.27 | dakoda | maybe arts isnt started |
05:35.51 | gonkulator | dakoda: maybe |
05:36.08 | darth_balls | what do we do to start arts? |
05:36.34 | darth_balls | oh well |
05:36.38 | darth_balls | maybe I should just stick w/ kde |
05:37.08 | gonkulator | NO |
05:37.11 | gonkulator | KDE is EVIL |
05:38.25 | darth_balls | ah, got it |
05:38.29 | darth_balls | ok, no KDE |
05:38.46 | gonkulator | whew.. |
05:39.06 | darth_balls | in fact... xmms works better in fluxbox then it did in kde ^_^ |
05:39.17 | darth_balls | it no longer takes over the speakers entirely |
05:39.26 | darth_balls | i can still here gaim while the music is playin |
05:39.28 | darth_balls | w00t |
05:40.01 | gonkulator | darth_balls: do a "ps -ef | grep -i esd" and paste the results in here |
05:40.45 | darth_balls | what's the key command for copy?> |
05:41.09 | gonkulator | left highlight is "copy" and middle click is "paste" |
05:41.15 | gonkulator | it is all done with the mouse |
05:41.40 | darth_balls | Lain 2669 1 0 22:38 ? 00:00:00 esd -terminate -nobeeps -as 2 -s |
05:41.40 | darth_balls | Lain 2687 2532 0 22:40 pts/0 00:00:00 grep -i esd |
05:41.42 | darth_balls | wow |
05:41.51 | darth_balls | cool |
05:41.55 | gonkulator | :) |
05:43.07 | gonkulator | dakoda: you use KDE? |
05:43.13 | gonkulator | dakoda: you deserve it :p |
05:43.21 | dakoda | its the default. i work mostly in console anyway :) |
05:43.27 | gonkulator | uh huh... |
05:43.28 | dakoda | it's an ancient version, 1.1 or something |
05:43.40 | gonkulator | so why the hell don't use use a light-weight WM for large numbers of consoles |
05:43.43 | gonkulator | like PWM |
05:43.47 | gonkulator | PWM is great for that |
05:43.55 | darth_balls | now I need to figure out how to change the background |
05:44.16 | gonkulator | find a jpeg that you like |
05:44.24 | darth_balls | I've got some |
05:44.27 | gonkulator | at the console, type ee <filename? |
05:44.28 | dakoda | i used to use icewm, but as i said, kde was the default here, and im too lazy to change it :) |
05:44.35 | gonkulator | er, <filename> |
05:45.10 | gonkulator | then, left click it and use the "set as desktop" option |
05:45.48 | darth_balls | nice |
05:45.57 | darth_balls | (it was a right click for me) |
05:46.03 | gonkulator | er, yeah |
05:46.51 | darth_balls | too bad scanline went to sleep |
05:46.59 | gonkulator | why is that? |
05:47.44 | darth_balls | I wanted to ask how he got his terminal clear |
05:48.12 | gonkulator | oh, I think it is cause he uses eterm |
05:48.20 | gonkulator | but I don't know exactly how that gets configured |
05:48.35 | dakoda | yeah. eterm or wterm. there are command line options to change transparency levels |
05:55.45 | darth_balls | I hate looking for .rpms |
05:56.00 | rev | then use debian :) |
05:56.46 | gonkulator | rev: he is switching over to gentoo soon enough |
05:56.52 | gonkulator | rev: don't be hard on him |
05:57.09 | rev | i'm not being hard on him |
05:57.15 | rev | i run RH8 on this beast myself :) |
05:57.17 | gonkulator | like hell you aren't |
05:57.27 | gonkulator | you debian people are all the same |
05:57.29 | rev | just giving him a solution to his problem |
05:57.31 | rev | pfft! |
05:57.33 | gonkulator | debian this, and debian that |
05:57.38 | rev | i run debian on no machine in this house! |
05:57.40 | rev | SO THERE!@$#! |
05:57.44 | gonkulator | :) |
05:57.54 | rev | me too |
05:57.59 | rev | YIPPEE |
05:58.10 | dakoda | isnt there an apt-get type thign for rh? |
05:58.12 | rev | well |
05:58.15 | rev | there is apt4rpm |
05:58.24 | rev | but from what i'm told it's still nowhere near as slick |
05:58.28 | rev | not many repositories &c |
05:58.34 | dakoda | ahh |
05:58.35 | rev | but theoretically it could |
05:58.44 | rev | i've not installed it on this RH8 machine yet |
05:58.49 | rev | so i can't say for sure |
05:58.59 | gonkulator | emerge is so much better than apt-get |
05:59.09 | rev | how so? cuz it compiles it to your machine? |
05:59.23 | gonkulator | rev: exactly |
05:59.35 | gonkulator | rev: also, there is no "-" in the command |
05:59.37 | rev | can't you do that with apt-get? using source debs? |
05:59.39 | rev | what does - do? |
05:59.47 | gonkulator | it is hard to get at on the keyboard |
06:00.13 | njs | echo 'alias aptget=apt-get' >>/etc/profile |
06:00.23 | dakoda | :) |
06:00.24 | gonkulator | and it is easy to say "emerge" with emphasis, but "apt-get" sounds abrasive |
06:00.34 | rev | er oh |
06:00.36 | gonkulator | njs: I know, I am just making shit claims |
06:00.38 | rev | heh |
06:00.57 | njs | gonkulator: I know, I'm just suggesting absurd responses |
06:00.58 | rev | plus, gentoo helped keep away the demons which were assulting my dog in the night |
06:01.08 | gonkulator | njs: I am bitter toward debian because I couldn't install it correctly |
06:01.17 | njs | gonkulator: ah |
06:01.19 | rev | what went wrong? |
06:01.26 | rev | the deb installs i've done went slicker than snot |
06:01.31 | rev | even slicker than this rh8 install |
06:01.35 | njs | which reminds me, this headless box here is halfway through a debian install |
06:02.04 | gonkulator | my debian troubles can only be described as "pebkac" |
06:02.10 | rev | naturally |
06:02.25 | gonkulator | and dselect's UI blows major ass |
06:02.39 | rev | big time |
06:02.45 | rev | you think they could make it simpler |
06:04.17 | rev | don't blame you |
06:05.03 | gonkulator | the portage tree and emerge make so much more sense |
06:05.11 | rev | someday i'll look at it |
06:05.29 | rev | gentoo really came frmo nowhere in the last year.5 |
06:05.53 | gonkulator | I saw it about 4 months ago and said "w00t" |
06:06.03 | gonkulator | hmm... maybe 6 months ago... |
06:06.11 | gonkulator | it was the 1.2 release |
06:06.42 | darth_balls | tarballs are so much easier than .rpms |
06:07.06 | gonkulator | and .ebuilds are so much easier than tarballs |
06:07.35 | darth_balls | .ebuilds?? |
06:07.48 | gonkulator | gentoo meta-package description files |
06:07.58 | darth_balls | ooh |
06:08.04 | dakoda | come on, what's easier than tar zxf [file];cd [file];./configure --prefix=/usr/local;make;make install? :) |
06:08.15 | gonkulator | dakoda: :p |
06:09.49 | darth_balls | dakoda: it's a helluva lot easier than constantly searching for the damned dependencies |
06:10.07 | darth_balls | which, come to think of it is rather sad |
06:10.12 | gonkulator | darth_balls: dependencies exist regardless of the package management |
06:10.18 | darth_balls | true |
06:10.21 | dakoda | good point though |
06:10.31 | darth_balls | but I never have as much trouble and conflicts as I do w/ .rpm |
06:10.34 | gonkulator | darth_balls: the beauty of distros like Gentoo and debian is that they take care of that for you |
06:10.40 | darth_balls | that could just be me though |
06:10.43 | dakoda | doesnt the new stuff automatically get the deps as well? |
06:11.09 | gonkulator | dakoda: the new RH stuff? |
06:11.19 | dakoda | anything, i have no idea |
06:11.32 | gonkulator | gentoo automatically grabs dependancies for you |
06:11.41 | dakoda | see, now that's cool :) |
06:11.44 | gonkulator | like, I wanted to install X on my gentoo box at work |
06:11.50 | gonkulator | so I did "emerge xchat" |
06:12.02 | gonkulator | and gentoo grabbed X for me and all the other stuff |
06:12.17 | dakoda | holy crap! |
06:13.24 | rev | dakoda: apt-get does that too :) |
06:13.34 | gonkulator | the only problem with this is that sometimes, programs have weird dependancies |
06:13.40 | captain_proton | but apt-get is still retrieving i386 packages :) |
06:13.53 | captain_proton | and i don't get to funroll with binary packages |
06:13.56 | gonkulator | rev: don't go toting your debian shit in here |
06:14.04 | rev | EAT ME GENTOOBOI |
06:14.13 | gonkulator | BOI? |
06:14.20 | dakoda | => boy |
06:14.38 | captain_proton | boi has a somewhat different connotation than boy |
06:14.46 | dakoda | tru |
06:14.57 | gonkulator | how can we take someone's distro choice seriously when they can't even spell "boy" correctly? |
06:14.58 | darth_balls | I *love* flux box |
06:15.00 | darth_balls | it's so easy |
06:15.24 | dakoda | how does one configure kdm to recognize it as a wm to use? |
06:15.27 | captain_proton | when it comes down to raw power, you fools can keep your lunix. |
06:15.32 | gonkulator | dakoda: emerge fluxbox is all you have to do in gentoo :) |
06:15.41 | gonkulator | lunix? |
06:15.55 | captain_proton | gonkulator: you've never read JeffK? |
06:15.55 | rev | !@$!!! |
06:16.01 | dakoda | gonkulator: yeah, but im running a 3 year old suse distro, so that doesnt help me much :) |
06:16.14 | dakoda | *lol* |
06:16.25 | rev | well, linux is defiantely suboptimal for me |
06:16.28 | captain_proton | http://www.somethingawful.com/jeffk/internatfunhorse/index.htm |
06:16.31 | rev | which is why i run squeak on top of it. :P |
06:16.36 | gonkulator | dakoda: time to reinstall on that bad boy, unless it is working perfectly and has some un-Godly amount of uptime |
06:16.45 | njs | EDOS! EDOS! EDOS IS THE STANDARD OS! |
06:16.52 | dakoda | i have nothign newer to reinstall :) |
06:17.07 | dakoda | (i have the 2nd slackware release, but that's from way way back..) |
06:17.11 | captain_proton | EDOS CANNET GET ON TEH INTARNET! |
06:17.49 | gonkulator | dakoda: the only problem with gentoo and debian is that a fast connection to the internet |
06:18.27 | gonkulator | erm... a fast connection to the internet makes it less painful |
06:18.33 | rev | quite |
06:18.34 | dakoda | yeah |
06:18.42 | rev | but you can get gentoo cds and still reap some bennies |
06:19.17 | dakoda | i've only seen mandrake in stores around here, come to think of it.. but i manage none the less |
06:19.21 | gonkulator | or, you can emerge world -f and get all the tarballs, copy them to the /usr/portage/distfiles/ directory and call it good |
06:19.30 | rev | BOOYA |
06:19.47 | gonkulator | dakoda: the gentoo install CD is only 120 meg or so |
06:20.00 | rev | but then nothing comes with it |
06:20.05 | rev | you couldn't do an emerge xchat |
06:20.09 | gonkulator | sure you could |
06:20.18 | rev | well, not without using los interntos |
06:20.31 | gonkulator | true |
06:20.38 | darth_balls | well, i've got fluxbox and eterm working |
06:20.46 | darth_balls | but I can't get eterm transparent ^_^ |
06:21.06 | dakoda | open an eterm, then do eterm --help |
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06:35.04 | darth_balls | hmm |
06:35.12 | gonkulator | whats up? |
06:35.17 | darth_balls | eterm doesn't seem to like most of the options it says it can use |
06:35.34 | dakoda | it might be particular |
06:36.30 | gonkulator | maybe it needs enlightenment to be the running wm? |
06:36.40 | darth_balls | could be |
06:37.29 | dakoda | if(wm!=enlightenment)do_ignore_args(); :) |
06:37.59 | rev | people still use E? |
06:38.09 | rev | has anything new happened lately? |
06:38.14 | gonkulator | I dunno |
06:38.17 | gonkulator | ask raster |
06:38.26 | gonkulator | except he isn't on |
06:38.44 | dakoda | i've heard of a couple artsy people still using it.. *shrugs* |
06:38.54 | rev | artsy? like hipster mods? |
06:39.02 | dakoda | something like that |
06:39.07 | rev | heh |
06:39.25 | xghost232 | 0.17 should be interesting if it ever gets released |
06:39.34 | rev | coo |
06:39.45 | rev | of course |
06:40.00 | captain_proton | i stopped using E when i realized that window managers don't have to take 15 seconds to start |
06:40.06 | rev | haha |
06:40.09 | xghost232 | i think most people are going for lightweight wm now days |
06:40.13 | dakoda | ... and then i installed kde! :) |
06:40.15 | darth_balls | lol |
06:40.23 | darth_balls | I'm installing so much stuff tonight |
06:40.28 | rev | so they can make the rest of their enviroment heavyweight :) |
06:40.32 | darth_balls | this is what happens when I'm away from my tower too long |
06:40.56 | xghost232 | heh |
06:44.58 | dakoda | ok, im out. got lots to install now too :) tty'alll |
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06:53.02 | darth_balls | w00t |
06:53.40 | gonkulator | whats that? |
06:54.18 | darth_balls | I'm starting to figure everything out |
06:54.20 | darth_balls | and it feels good |
06:54.25 | gonkulator | cool |
06:55.17 | captain_proton | ...contest? |
06:55.29 | gonkulator | I am going to be putting out a contest on tuesday |
06:56.09 | darth_balls | yay |
06:56.13 | gonkulator | it will be longer than a week |
06:56.39 | darth_balls | night all |
06:56.41 | gonkulator | night darth_balls |
06:56.48 | darth_balls | thanks for all the help |
06:57.02 | gonkulator | captain_proton: speed is going to be the main focus in this contest |
06:57.06 | captain_proton | ah |
06:57.58 | gonkulator | oh, and warnings will be allowed in the GCC 3 part |
06:58.13 | captain_proton | excellent |
07:00.10 | gonkulator | but warnings will cost you in your final point total thingy :() |
07:00.11 | gonkulator | :) |
07:14.45 | merlin262 | -Wall? |
07:15.19 | gonkulator | NO |
07:15.33 | gonkulator | gcc <inputfile>.c -o program |
07:15.45 | gonkulator | :p |
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12:54.40 | file | ok I'm back |
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14:09.23 | gonkulator | PicoBot: seen scanline |
14:09.24 | PicoBot | scanline was last seen on #picogui 3 hours, 3 minutes and 0 seconds ago, saying: is back (gone 05:55:33) [Mon Dec 2 04:11:03 2002] |
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14:16.45 | gonkulator | morning carpman{sasami} |
14:16.48 | carpman{sasami} | hey gonkulator |
14:17.20 | gonkulator | hi Xentac |
14:17.25 | gonkulator | carpman{sasami}: whats up? |
14:17.26 | carpman{sasami} | morning Xentac |
14:17.35 | carpman{sasami} | gonkulator: last week of school |
14:17.37 | Xentac | hi guys |
14:17.43 | gonkulator | oooh |
14:17.49 | gonkulator | cool... last week :) |
14:17.52 | gonkulator | this is my last week too |
14:17.57 | gonkulator | finals are next week |
14:18.09 | carpman{sasami} | hehe, finals are this week for me. |
14:18.17 | carpman{sasami} | Today: Computer Org. |
14:19.43 | scanline | morning guys |
14:19.46 | gonkulator | hi scanline |
14:20.01 | gonkulator | scanline: how did the iBook go back togeather |
14:20.33 | carpman{sasami} | hey scanline |
14:20.43 | scanline | well, we lost a total of three screws and I had a couple screws left over after reassembling, and one of the rubber feet retaining rings cracked so I had to superglue the foot on, but it seems fairly solid now |
14:20.48 | scanline | I haven't installed an OS on it yet |
14:21.01 | gonkulator | oh, ok |
14:21.39 | scanline | carpman{sasami}: losing screws makes your ibook lighter |
14:21.45 | gonkulator | well, at least we got it togeather with all the screws once :) |
14:22.38 | scanline | nomad's upgrade went pretty smoothly... just restored the disk image then created a new 30GB partition |
14:23.07 | gonkulator | cool |
14:23.12 | scanline | gonkulator: That check I have from you that I haven't cashed was about $300, eh? |
14:23.34 | gonkulator | scanline: something like that I think |
14:23.37 | scanline | Since I owe you $150 and my parents owe you $150, if the check was at least $300 I could just tear it up and have my parents owe me $150 |
14:24.22 | carpman{sasami} | I NEED this new job. I went to itzacon yesterday. They had anime cels. |
14:24.41 | gonkulator | what is a cel? |
14:24.49 | scanline | gonkulator: $279 |
14:24.55 | scanline | so I guess I owe you $20 |
14:25.14 | carpman{sasami} | gonkulator: One of the things they take pictures of to make cartoons. One frame of animation. |
14:25.27 | gonkulator | scanline: ok |
14:25.37 | scanline | oh yeah.. frames |
14:25.46 | scanline | I got NuppelVideo recording working in jetstream |
14:25.48 | gonkulator | scanline: you buy the pizza the next two times I come up and we can call it even |
14:25.55 | carpman{sasami} | NuppelVideo is cool |
14:26.33 | scanline | carpman{sasami}: you've used it before? |
14:26.48 | carpman{sasami} | scanline: I've used it on lain to record adult swim before :) |
14:27.46 | scanline | carpman{sasami}: how does the quality adjustment work? |
14:27.57 | scanline | the source code is very very sparsely documented |
14:28.46 | scanline | it accepts an 8-bit "Q" value, with the comment that 32 is minumum quality and 192 is maximum, but there are still a good bit of compression artifacts at any Q value I've tried |
14:28.51 | carpman{sasami} | I dunno, I just used the defaults. |
14:28.57 | scanline | ah |
14:29.21 | scanline | well there's no library for NuppelVideo encoding, so I had to write my own code to output the stream, and I'm using their GPL'ed RTJpeg codec |
14:29.30 | carpman{sasami} | I didn't get any artifacts, IIRC |
14:29.56 | scanline | want me to send you a sample nuppelvideo file this encoded? |
14:30.16 | file | mmm? |
14:30.33 | carpman{sasami} | scanline: ok. |
14:30.37 | file | gonkulator: clarify |
14:30.40 | Xentac | gonkulator: that would be a bad thing |
14:30.55 | gonkulator | file: I accidently transfered 279 dollars into my dad's bank account |
14:31.00 | scanline | hehe |
14:31.02 | carpman{sasami} | lol |
14:31.18 | Xentac | hehehe, that's better than accidently transfering it to someone you don't care for... |
14:31.18 | Xentac | ;o) |
14:31.21 | gonkulator | oh well... |
14:31.24 | carpman{sasami} | "Thanks, son. Thats a great xmas gift" - Said as running out door. |
14:31.30 | gonkulator | I'll get it back... |
14:31.36 | Xentac | carpman{sasami}: hehehe |
14:31.36 | gonkulator | *sends email to mother* |
14:31.59 | Xentac | carpman{sasami}: nah, it'd be "And son, here's your xmas present" *hands 279 dollars* |
14:32.13 | carpman{sasami} | hehe |
14:32.40 | carpman{sasami} | scanline: mplayer says the header is all fecked up |
14:32.52 | scanline | hmm.. mplayer plays it fine here |
14:32.54 | scanline | what version? |
14:33.05 | carpman{sasami} | VO: invalid dimensions! |
14:33.06 | carpman{sasami} | FATAL: Cannot initialize video driver! |
14:33.06 | carpman{sasami} | VDecoder init failed :( |
14:33.06 | carpman{sasami} | Can't find codec matching selected -vo and video format 0x3156554E ! |
14:33.15 | carpman{sasami} | .90pre6 |
14:33.15 | scanline | maybe it doesn't work on PPC? |
14:33.23 | carpman{sasami} | yeah, byte order probably |
14:33.25 | scanline | the nuppelvideo format is really unspecific on byte orders |
14:33.38 | scanline | I can divx it |
14:33.44 | carpman{sasami} | nah, thats allright. |
14:33.48 | scanline | ok |
14:33.50 | carpman{sasami} | I trust that its nifty :) |
14:34.11 | scanline | well, I was just curious whether the compression artifacts were consistent with what NuppelVideo should be doing |
14:35.20 | carpman{sasami} | scanline: probably not |
14:35.29 | carpman{sasami} | you shouldn't see any. |
14:35.30 | gonkulator | there, email sent |
14:35.49 | scanline | carpman{sasami}: well, it's mainly on large patches of solid colors |
14:36.00 | file | gonkulator: blame it on a bad interface |
14:36.05 | scanline | oh, I'll take a screenshot of the nuppelvideo playback |
14:36.17 | carpman{sasami} | gonkulator: blame it on file |
14:38.05 | scanline | http://jetstream.babylonia.flatirons.org/download/nuppelvideo_rtjpeg.png |
14:39.27 | carpman{sasami} | hmm.. thats a jpeg at high compression. |
14:40.08 | gonkulator | carpman{sasami}: the following commands will cause OS X to kernel panic |
14:40.10 | gonkulator | mkdir foo |
14:40.11 | scanline | nuppelvideo's compression is a form of jpeg |
14:40.13 | gonkulator | cd foo |
14:40.14 | gonkulator | mkdir foo |
14:40.18 | gonkulator | mv foo ../ |
14:40.28 | carpman{sasami} | gonkulator: realy? |
14:40.31 | flexo | gonkulator: i doubt |
14:40.38 | gonkulator | carpman{sasami}: 10.2.2, yep |
14:40.43 | flexo | hmm |
14:40.46 | gonkulator | carpman{sasami}: I have tried it twice, and twice it has crashed |
14:40.53 | carpman{sasami} | 'foo' or foo=anything? |
14:41.00 | gonkulator | foo=anything |
14:41.19 | gonkulator | I have only tested foo, but supposedly it works with anything |
14:41.38 | gonkulator | *logs into source forge's compile farm* |
14:43.55 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
14:44.02 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
14:44.02 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
14:44.02 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
14:44.33 | carpman{sasami} | scanline: thats worse than the stuff you write |
14:44.37 | scanline | haha |
14:44.49 | Xentac | what, then awesome scanline can't read C now? is that what I'm hearing? |
14:45.17 | scanline | heh |
14:45.30 | scanline | there is zero documentation on the code, and even worse, zero documentation on the algorithm |
14:45.41 | gonkulator | PicoBot: class? |
14:45.47 | gonkulator | ow |
14:45.50 | gonkulator | ow ow |
14:46.38 | file | Xentac: work? |
14:47.45 | file | I had a dream lastnight I got my PCI USB card... but it was recognized as a 2.0 card |
14:48.08 | Xentac | file dreams about hardware... interesting... |
14:48.24 | file | well I didn't get much sleep |
14:48.26 | file | 1-2 hours |
14:58.02 | carpman{sasami} | hehe... http://www.gamespy.com/comics/dorktower/ |
14:58.15 | file | carpman{sasami}: how was itzacon anyway? |
14:59.40 | carpman{sasami} | file: b0ring |
14:59.57 | file | carpman{sasami}: did you drag anybody there with you? |
15:00.46 | carpman{sasami} | Marjin |
15:00.52 | file | haha |
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15:08.54 | scanline | aha |
15:08.58 | scanline | found some documentation on RTJpeg |
15:08.58 | file | hello sad0ur and prpplague |
15:09.08 | sad0ur | hi |
15:12.48 | file | my step-dad is gone... ermph |
15:16.03 | sad0ur | i asked yesterday, but no response, so... du u know some ROMs for snes ? i've played chronotrigger, but somethim more dark and less stupid in similar gameplay would by nice... |
15:16.39 | sad0ur | (if u know the dos game dreamweb. something with that kind of atmosphere would rock :) |
15:17.19 | file | sad0ur: we're not an SNES channel. |
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15:17.23 | file | hi darth_balls |
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15:18.18 | darth_balls | hi file |
15:18.22 | darth_balls | hey gonk |
15:18.25 | file | hi gonkulator |
15:18.30 | sad0ur | sorry |
15:18.44 | gonkulator | darth_balls: I am trying to get samba 2.2.5 working on OS X |
15:18.44 | darth_balls | sad0ur: what did you want? |
15:18.52 | darth_balls | gonkulator: what's samba? |
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15:20.29 | prpplague | darth_balls: samba is a series of linux utilities for communicating with the windows SMB protocol |
15:20.41 | darth_balls | oh |
15:20.51 | prpplague | darth_balls: i.e. shared windows printers |
15:20.53 | sad0ur | nothing in particular. just as i saw screenshot of final fantasy (i guess) in pg, i thought someone could know about something. it's not important. |
15:21.33 | darth_balls | oh, I don't know anything about that |
15:21.38 | darth_balls | bbiab |
15:30.02 | file | I think I got the flu that's going around - so nobody come near me |
15:36.24 | file | takk|sle1p: mmm |
15:38.50 | gonkulator | s/offes/offers |
15:39.01 | file | yup - all the stuff I have are stuff that the flu gives you |
15:39.09 | gonkulator | wb darth_balls |
15:39.23 | darth_balls | <krusty> hey hey </krusty> |
15:39.32 | gonkulator | darth_balls: remember that sharity program you had on your iBook? |
15:39.53 | darth_balls | no |
15:39.59 | gonkulator | oh |
15:40.06 | gonkulator | that was samba packaged for apple |
15:40.07 | darth_balls | what program? |
15:40.14 | gonkulator | sharity |
15:40.20 | darth_balls | I don't think I ever had that |
15:40.23 | gonkulator | oh |
15:40.28 | Vivyan | hi |
15:40.33 | gonkulator | Vivyan: whats up? |
15:40.45 | Vivyan | sleepies |
15:41.40 | darth_balls | wow |
15:42.06 | gonkulator | darth_balls: don't drink one of Jagy's cappucino's before going home at night |
15:42.08 | gonkulator | oh |
15:42.18 | gonkulator | LAN party at Jai's house on December 31 |
15:42.30 | file | am I invited? |
15:42.36 | gonkulator | anyone who knows who Jai is can come |
15:42.47 | gonkulator | file: if you can make it here, sure |
15:42.48 | file | great |
15:43.00 | scanline | gonkulator: I'll be going to lousyana this christmas break... not sure exactly when |
15:43.07 | gonkulator | scanline: sorry |
15:43.39 | scanline | hehe |
15:43.42 | gonkulator | he said that neither him, nor your mom was excited about going |
15:44.42 | scanline | ha |
15:45.39 | gonkulator | seriously |
15:45.46 | gonkulator | you are welcome to "ditch" if you would like ;) |
15:46.54 | gonkulator | and there is wireless |
15:47.01 | merlin262 | ugghhhhhhhh, I wanna die.. . |
15:47.28 | gonkulator | later Xentac |
15:47.34 | gonkulator | later Vivyan|deadtoo |
15:47.48 | gonkulator | hi kergoth |
15:49.09 | darth_balls | hi scanline |
15:49.12 | scanline | hi |
15:49.16 | merlin262 | hey scanline, how goes it? |
15:49.18 | takkaria | moo all |
15:49.20 | scanline | forward? |
15:49.27 | takkaria | whoops. I shouldn't've said "moo" |
15:50.22 | darth_balls | moo takkaria |
15:50.28 | merlin262 | ahhh, what be this?' |
15:50.33 | takkaria | PicoBot: moo |
15:50.33 | PicoBot | this is strictly a "no moo'ing" channel |
15:50.45 | gonkulator | PicoBot: jump |
15:50.45 | PicoBot | sorry gonkulator, this is strictly a "no jumping" channel |
15:50.50 | gonkulator | see |
15:50.53 | gonkulator | no mooing or jumping |
15:51.12 | scanline | merlin262: a very short movie with lossless compression :) |
15:51.30 | merlin262 | scanline: ahhhhhhh, what player? |
15:51.48 | scanline | it's NuppleVideo, using LZO but not RTJpeg |
15:51.52 | scanline | it will play in mplayer |
15:52.07 | scanline | don't know why you would want it, just thought I would DCC you a really big file for no reason |
15:52.17 | merlin262 | ic |
15:52.39 | darth_balls | scanline: I got fluxbox working |
15:52.47 | scanline | darth_balls: neat |
15:52.53 | darth_balls | it was so simple |
15:53.06 | darth_balls | I just had to have a .xinitrc file w/ the command "exec fluxbox" |
15:53.32 | scanline | merlin262: if you actually want the file, I should compress it a bit more :) |
15:53.41 | gonkulator | scanline: gzip! |
15:53.46 | scanline | lzop |
15:53.57 | merlin262 | scanline: what's the video fo? |
15:54.11 | scanline | video capture from jetstream |
15:54.23 | scanline | http://www.oberhumer.com/opensource/lzop/ |
15:55.07 | merlin262 | hrmph, can't play it w/ xine, and mplayer refuses to install |
15:55.13 | scanline | heh |
15:55.20 | gonkulator | merlin262: did you try emerge? |
15:55.41 | merlin262 | make: *** [mplayer.o] Error 1 |
15:55.41 | merlin262 | !!! ERROR: The ebuild did not complete successfully. |
15:56.03 | gonkulator | merlin262: did you try a different ebuild |
15:56.07 | scanline | this one's kinda messed up too... |
15:56.12 | scanline | it was recording at about 8FPS and playing at 30 |
15:57.27 | scanline | PicoBot: seen captain_proton? |
15:57.27 | PicoBot | captain_proton was last seen on #picogui 8 hours, 59 minutes and 16 seconds ago, saying: excellent [Mon Dec 2 00:02:51 2002] |
16:03.30 | darth_balls | scanline: how do you change the wallpaper in fluxbox? |
16:03.35 | darth_balls | mine won't stay changed |
16:04.10 | scanline | add a line like this to ~/.fluxbox/init: |
16:04.14 | scanline | session.screen0.rootCommand: Esetroot -scale foo.jpeg |
16:04.22 | darth_balls | ok |
16:05.07 | darth_balls | do I need the path to the pic |
16:05.09 | darth_balls | ?? |
16:05.12 | scanline | yeah |
16:05.15 | darth_balls | kk |
16:05.57 | darth_balls | br |
16:05.58 | darth_balls | b |
16:06.59 | *** join/#picogui darth_balls (~Lain@resnet023.fortlewis.edu) |
16:07.03 | darth_balls | it didn't like that |
16:07.10 | darth_balls | maybe it can't handle .bmp |
16:07.46 | gonkulator | darth_balls: who can say, who can say |
16:07.59 | scanline | it should handle bmp.. maybe you don't have Esetroot installed? |
16:08.07 | darth_balls | that's probably it |
16:08.15 | scanline | you don't have to restart X for it to take effect... |
16:08.25 | darth_balls | ok, I don't have esetroot installed |
16:08.29 | scanline | there should be an option in your root menu to restart fluxbox, and it won't kill any of your other programs |
16:08.56 | file | I could go for lunch... |
16:09.15 | darth_balls | oh, ok |
16:10.12 | file | food rocks |
16:10.54 | darth_balls | damn, can't find esetroot online, any suggestions? |
16:11.25 | scanline | it comes with Eterm |
16:13.23 | file | Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone is on |
16:15.53 | darth_balls | oh well |
16:17.55 | darth_balls | I'll mess with it later |
16:19.11 | darth_balls | scanline: what terminal do you use? |
16:19.20 | scanline | Eterm |
16:19.42 | darth_balls | did you have troubles getting it to go transparent? |
16:19.46 | scanline | no |
16:19.55 | darth_balls | how did you get it transparent? |
16:20.08 | darth_balls | cuz the menu in mine won't change it to clear |
16:20.21 | file | he probably rewrote it |
16:20.22 | scanline | background -> toggle transparency |
16:20.30 | darth_balls | yeah, that doesn't work |
16:20.41 | scanline | did you set the background with Esetroot? |
16:20.47 | darth_balls | no |
16:21.22 | merlin262 | somehow, my package managed to get to dallas before it left fort worth |
16:21.36 | file | merlin262: they didn't scan it |
16:21.40 | file | merlin262: the departure scan |
16:21.50 | file | merlin262: gonna be delivered today? |
16:21.59 | merlin262 | file: i dunno |
16:22.10 | file | merlin262: what time is it for you? |
16:22.15 | merlin262 | it's in dallas, that generally indicates yes |
16:22.17 | darth_balls | but that will come later |
16:22.19 | merlin262 | 10:34 AM |
16:22.30 | file | mmm I suppose it could be delivered |
16:46.20 | gonkulator | PicoBot: meows |
16:46.21 | PicoBot | gonkulator: excuse me? |
16:46.27 | gonkulator | PicoBot: meow |
16:46.28 | PicoBot | gonkulator: sorry... |
16:46.54 | gonkulator | PicoBot: meow is <action> becomes as cute as DevGirl and purrs softly |
16:46.54 | PicoBot | OK, gonkulator. |
16:46.56 | gonkulator | PicoBot: meow |
16:47.21 | file | any news on her? |
16:48.08 | gonkulator | file: I'll bet vitoria was born yesterday |
16:48.47 | file | :) |
16:51.47 | file | gonkulator? |
16:53.08 | gonkulator | file? |
16:53.47 | file | hello |
16:58.21 | gonkulator | hi |
16:58.58 | file | what's up? |
17:02.57 | *** join/#picogui carpman{sasami} (~carpman@dyna039231.utdallas.edu) |
17:03.10 | file | hi carpman |
17:03.15 | gonkulator | hey carpman{sasami} |
17:03.22 | carpman{sasami} | hey gonkulator |
17:03.24 | carpman{sasami} | hey file |
17:40.50 | *** join/#picogui gonkulator (~brandon@Metro0276.client.mscd.edu) |
17:40.57 | gonkulator | PicoBot: seen scanline |
17:40.57 | PicoBot | scanline was last seen on #picogui 1 hours, 20 minutes and 15 seconds ago, saying: did you set the background with Esetroot? [Mon Dec 2 09:25:22 2002] |
17:41.07 | gonkulator | PicoBot: seen carpman |
17:41.08 | PicoBot | carpman was last seen on #picogui 1 days, 3 hours, 29 minutes and 57 seconds ago, saying: well, off to do some stuff. See you all later. [Sun Dec 1 07:15:51 2002] |
17:41.10 | gonkulator | PicoBot: seen Xentac |
17:41.10 | PicoBot | Xentac was last seen on #picogui 1 hours, 53 minutes and 46 seconds ago, saying: is away: working [Mon Dec 2 08:52:04 2002] |
17:41.15 | file | booya |
17:41.17 | gonkulator | PicoBot: seen fragglet |
17:41.17 | PicoBot | fragglet was last seen on #picogui 1 days, 3 hours, 30 minutes and 1 seconds ago, saying: bye bye [Sun Dec 1 07:15:57 2002] |
17:41.19 | file | Order Status: In Queue for Shipment |
17:41.24 | gonkulator | file: fun |
17:42.06 | *** join/#picogui ahnkana (~trillian@aden2-135-dhcp.resnet.Colorado.EDU) |
17:43.50 | ahnkana | anyone have a really cool photo editing program that will run on windows? |
17:44.03 | gonkulator | I have photoshop |
17:44.10 | gonkulator | and there is a win32 port of gimp |
17:44.19 | gonkulator | there is always M$ paint |
17:44.25 | ahnkana | paint sucks |
17:44.28 | ahnkana | i have that |
17:44.38 | ahnkana | tell me of gimp |
17:44.38 | file | that's what the graphics design course here uses |
17:44.40 | file | MS Paint!!!! |
17:44.53 | gonkulator | PicoBot: google |
17:44.54 | PicoBot | gonkulator: i'm not following you... |
17:45.07 | gonkulator | PicoBot: google is <reply> google yourself at google.com |
17:45.07 | PicoBot | OK, gonkulator. |
17:45.30 | ahnkana | file: if paint is cool, how do you paste one image ontop of another? |
17:45.34 | ahnkana | how do you move images? |
17:45.57 | gonkulator | ahnkana: google for "win32 gimp download" |
17:46.02 | gonkulator | ahnkana: that should give you what you want |
17:46.12 | ahnkana | k |
17:46.28 | file | ahnkana: don't put words in my mouth |
17:46.35 | file | there's already a doughnut in it |
17:48.24 | ahnkana | lol |
17:48.31 | ahnkana | doughnuts are icky |
17:48.53 | ahnkana | gonkulator: which of these links should i download |
17:49.05 | gonkulator | ahnkana: the ones that work |
17:49.11 | ahnkana | umm thanks |
17:49.27 | ahnkana | they all work, but which one is the program? |
17:49.31 | ahnkana | i am confused |
17:49.38 | ahnkana | http://www.gimp.org/~tml/gimp/win32/downloads.html |
17:49.44 | ahnkana | this is where i am |
17:50.18 | gonkulator | just look for something with a .exe |
17:50.34 | ahnkana | aiiieeeeeee |
17:51.11 | ahnkana | they are all zip files |
17:51.16 | gonkulator | oh |
17:51.37 | ahnkana | stop making her think |
17:51.39 | file | http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/gimp/ |
17:52.07 | ahnkana | mais, mon ami, this site is for linux downloads |
17:52.20 | ahnkana | the link at the top goes right back to where i was |
17:52.22 | file | that site is for Windows |
17:52.27 | gonkulator | gimp-1.2.4-20020907.zip. |
17:52.33 | file | You can find the installer for the latest build of The Gimp for Windows here. It's made from the binary packages available at http://www.gimp.org/~tml/gimp/win32/downloads.html page. |
17:52.50 | ahnkana | yep that' |
17:52.53 | ahnkana | s where i was |
17:53.04 | file | that's what you want |
17:53.06 | file | so download it |
17:53.11 | ahnkana | which one? |
17:53.16 | gonkulator | gimp-1.2.4-20020907.zip |
17:53.18 | gonkulator | gimp-1.2.4-20020907.zip. |
17:53.20 | gonkulator | gimp-1.2.4-20020907.zip |
17:53.20 | ahnkana | k |
17:53.20 | gonkulator | gimp-1.2.4-20020907.zip |
17:53.26 | ahnkana | alright |
17:53.28 | gonkulator | :) |
17:53.32 | gonkulator | PicoBot: flood |
17:53.35 | gonkulator | w00t |
17:54.30 | ahnkana | gonkulator wanted gimp |
17:54.46 | gonkulator | no, the ultraflood |
17:54.49 | gonkulator | PicoBot: spank |
17:55.00 | gonkulator | PicoBot: spank |
17:55.02 | gonkulator | PicoBot: spank |
17:55.08 | gonkulator | see, they get smaller |
17:55.12 | gonkulator | but the ultra is the best |
17:57.55 | ahnkana | metallica fade to black |
17:58.00 | ahnkana | GOOOD SONG |
17:58.12 | ahnkana | the music is wonderbus |
18:01.37 | ahnkana | durge!!! |
18:04.31 | ahnkana | it did not vurk |
18:04.35 | ahnkana | egads |
18:11.03 | darth_balls | w00t! |
18:11.08 | darth_balls | my second HD came!!!! |
18:14.08 | gonkulator | darth_balls: cool |
18:14.12 | gonkulator | darth_balls: I am happy for ya :) |
18:24.09 | takkaria | the most evil place to have a spot on your body is in your ear |
18:25.50 | gonkulator | why is that? |
18:26.21 | darth_balls | cuz takkaria said so ;( |
18:26.24 | darth_balls | *;) |
18:26.54 | gonkulator | takkaria: what do you base that assessment on? |
18:27.32 | darth_balls | this means I can put all the screws back in my case |
18:28.29 | takkaria | because they really annoy me |
18:28.45 | darth_balls | gonkulator: see? told you |
18:28.56 | takkaria | chicken pox is evil, too |
18:30.10 | gonkulator | oh, ok |
18:30.18 | gonkulator | darth_balls: cool, just like Lindsey :) |
18:30.29 | gonkulator | (on the screws in the case thing) |
18:30.38 | gonkulator | well, I am bored at work |
18:30.43 | gonkulator | time to play a relaxing game of UT |
18:30.45 | gonkulator | bbiab |
18:30.48 | file | gonkulator: k |
19:03.52 | *** join/#picogui rev|werk (Malkin@nomad97-247.d.umn.edu) |
19:04.00 | file | hi rev |
19:04.03 | rev|werk | hey file |
19:48.44 | *** part/#picogui rev|werk (Malkin@nomad97-247.d.umn.edu) |
19:56.21 | ahnkana | aaiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
20:10.54 | captain_proton | ahnkana: is the rehearsal on thurs. at 7 or 7:30? i have conflicting information |
20:17.56 | ahnkana | ummm |
20:17.58 | ahnkana | looking |
20:20.04 | ahnkana | captain_proton: is that the 6th? |
20:20.37 | captain_proton | ahnkana: |
20:20.39 | captain_proton | err |
20:20.40 | captain_proton | 5th |
20:20.41 | ahnkana | the ticket i have says 730 |
20:20.49 | ahnkana | hmm |
20:20.53 | captain_proton | the dress rehearsal |
20:21.01 | captain_proton | (first one) |
20:22.07 | ahnkana | 730 |
20:22.18 | captain_proton | thanks |
20:22.26 | ahnkana | i'll bring my sheet up you can write it down |
20:33.13 | ahnkana | captain_proton: these rehersals are at macky aren't they? |
20:34.14 | captain_proton | ahnkana: yep |
20:34.48 | ahnkana | k |
20:35.07 | ahnkana | I love my new toy!!! |
20:35.13 | captain_proton | toy? |
20:35.20 | ahnkana | MP3/CD player= REALLY FUN |
20:35.28 | ahnkana | 40 hrs battery time |
20:35.28 | captain_proton | ah |
20:35.51 | ahnkana | but does yours walk around with you and play mp3s? |
20:35.58 | captain_proton | doesn't play mp3s |
20:36.02 | captain_proton | but its tiny |
20:36.17 | captain_proton | the one that played mp3s was twice as thick and cost another 8000 yen :) |
20:36.59 | ahnkana | 8000 yen |
20:36.59 | ahnkana | lol |
20:37.17 | ahnkana | mine is actually smaller then my walkman |
20:37.34 | ahnkana | but it was a present |
20:39.11 | file | I need food |
20:39.20 | file | I haven't eaten in so long my stomach hurts |
20:39.41 | ahnkana | you had a doughnut this morning |
20:39.50 | file | 1 doughnut |
20:40.13 | file | chicken noodle soup time |
20:43.04 | ahnkana | or goes to class |
20:43.09 | ahnkana | one or the other |
20:44.49 | ahnkana | not hard |
20:45.08 | ahnkana | hehehe |
20:46.00 | ahnkana | i don't want to go |
20:47.05 | takkaria | gah! |
20:47.10 | takkaria | I started helping people on #c |
20:47.16 | takkaria | I'm sure my sanity will go soon |
20:47.53 | kergoth | bah, sanity is overrated |
20:48.04 | takkaria | yes, it is |
20:48.12 | captain_proton | just ask scanline, he's got none left |
20:49.47 | scanline | >:) |
20:50.11 | scanline | captain_proton: dunno if you saw when I mentioned this to pat, but I talked to an OpenAL developer about the recording problem |
20:50.27 | scanline | he's going to write up an extension proposal :) |
20:51.13 | captain_proton | scanline: teehee |
21:06.34 | darth_balls | c'mon admit it, you're glad to see me |
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21:28.21 | *** join/#picogui Sophie[bot] (~notreal@davidpc.dnx.net) |
21:28.36 | Sophie[bot] | hi. |
21:31.44 | darth_iBook | hi Sophie[bot] |
21:54.38 | *** join/#picogui gonkulator (~brandon@user-33qtv7t.dialup.mindspring.com) |
21:56.52 | file | hi gonkulator |
21:58.13 | gonkulator | hi file |
21:58.41 | gonkulator | hey file, I have a question for you |
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22:04.40 | gonkulator | PicoBot: seen carpman |
22:04.40 | PicoBot | carpman was last seen on #picogui 1 days, 7 hours, 53 minutes and 30 seconds ago, saying: well, off to do some stuff. See you all later. [Sun Dec 1 07:15:51 2002] |
22:04.49 | gonkulator | PicoBot: seen carpman{sasami} |
22:04.49 | PicoBot | carpman{sasami} was last seen on #picogui 5 hours, 1 minutes and 27 seconds ago, saying: hey file [Mon Dec 2 10:08:04 2002] |
22:35.22 | *** join/#picogui file (~lan@mctn1-2226.nb.aliant.net) |
22:43.09 | merlin262 | wb file |
22:43.16 | file | thanks |
22:58.50 | merlin262 | so, someone IS alive in here |
22:59.51 | scanline | http://jetstream.babylonia.flatirons.org/download/videorecorder_ui.png |
23:00.28 | merlin262 | Nifty! |
23:00.49 | scanline | uh oh, now he'll want rootless OpenGL in X11... |
23:00.53 | scanline | =) |
23:01.51 | merlin262 | you said it. |
23:01.52 | merlin262 | not me! |
23:02.13 | scanline | it's extremely CPU intensive |
23:02.46 | captain_proton | scanline: we need to make VideoRecorder network transparent - so i can send a raw stream over to dan's box where it gets encoded ;) |
23:03.02 | scanline | captain_proton: hmm... shouldn't be hard :) |
23:03.07 | scanline | actually... |
23:03.17 | scanline | you could probably do that now with mkfifo and netcat |
23:03.33 | captain_proton | we at least need something, because 7 fps isn't good enough for the videos |
23:03.49 | scanline | well, that was due to the textbox being slow rendering albuquerque |
23:04.52 | scanline | it's probably not CPU limited when it does slow down during recording... it has a delay to try to match a target frame rate but it doesn't do a very good job of it |
23:04.57 | captain_proton | i drop down to 11fps while running the VideoRecorder |
23:05.27 | scanline | I get about 22fps at 640x480 with the python console open |
23:05.34 | scanline | it's target is set to 30fps |
23:05.46 | captain_proton | i had the grid on, that might have something to do with it |
23:05.47 | scanline | hmm |
23:05.54 | scanline | I have the grid on too |
23:05.59 | scanline | but hmm... |
23:06.17 | scanline | might try turning off the RTJpeg encoder |
23:06.30 | scanline | engine.VideoRecorder.rtjpeg = False |
23:06.47 | scanline | but that might make the output too fast for your disk, dunno |
23:07.01 | scanline | it will still be using LZO lossless compression |
23:07.08 | captain_proton | 20 fps solid |
23:07.14 | scanline | 100% CPU? |
23:07.44 | captain_proton | i don't have a cpu monitor up |
23:08.07 | captain_proton | is it possible to turn off scaling of the video? |
23:08.24 | scanline | engine.VideoRecorder.width = 640 |
23:08.27 | scanline | engine.VideoRecorder.height = 480 |
23:08.51 | scanline | looks like it's the compression |
23:09.13 | scanline | I just tried turning off both rtjpeg and lzo, and sending the output to /dev/null... now it's getting around 30fps with only 75% CPU |
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23:30.21 | captain_proton | scanline: its here! |
23:30.41 | scanline | wazzat? |
23:31.09 | captain_proton | scanline: my new keyboard :) |
23:32.51 | merlin262 | looks like it'll be tommorow |
23:33.26 | file | :( |
23:34.45 | captain_proton | ooh my machine looks beautiful with a unix keyboard sitting in front of it :) |
23:35.04 | merlin262 | =D |
23:36.02 | captain_proton | although the sun logo in front of the dell logo does look a tad strange |
23:36.19 | captain_proton | back to bzflag |
23:37.29 | darth_balls | <PROTECTED> |
23:37.36 | darth_balls | stupid space |
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23:53.38 | merlin262 | hehe |
23:53.46 | merlin262 | wb captain_proton |
23:53.52 | captain_proton | nvidia driver just decided i had too much uptime |
23:54.08 | merlin262 | roflol |
23:54.10 | captain_proton | bwahaha, no steenking windows keys for me. i've got meta |
23:54.15 | file | lol |