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07:10.15 | merlin262 | night |
07:38.54 | scanline | eek, long nap... |
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10:01.47 | takk|dead | PicoBot: slashdot |
10:01.48 | PicoBot | Slashdot - Updated 2002-12-01 07:39:20 | Ogg/Vorbis on Palm OS | DreamHack Winter 2002 | Star Control 2 Released Under the GPL | 5 Predictions for 2012 |
10:09.25 | hikke | http://www.universalmusic.fi/tiktak/joulukalenteri/joulukalenteri.htm |
10:09.28 | hikke | Argh |
10:09.33 | hikke | putty paste again |
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12:15.34 | scanline | hi |
12:15.53 | Viv | hehe hi |
13:47.10 | *** join/#picogui carpman (coyote@66-169-218-138.dntn.tx.charter.com) |
13:47.18 | carpman | Morning all |
13:47.21 | carpman | AoFBot: version |
13:47.21 | AoFBot | AoF 2.9-RC1 (Euclid) |
13:48.33 | scanline | hi carpman |
13:51.02 | carpman | hey scanline, whats up? |
13:51.25 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
13:51.25 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
13:51.25 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
13:52.03 | carpman | does that do what I think? |
13:52.09 | scanline | no idea |
13:52.25 | carpman | does that embed pgserver inside of an app? |
13:52.33 | scanline | yeah |
13:52.36 | scanline | but that's nothing new.... |
13:52.43 | scanline | just doing some funny things with templates now |
13:52.47 | scanline | :) |
13:53.02 | carpman | ahh... I haven't seen any of the embedding stuff, so its new to me :) |
13:53.07 | scanline | the source to jetstream is in a subversion repository if you want to see it |
13:53.33 | carpman | can't right now. Got to go to church, and then to a (very small) con. |
13:53.41 | scanline | ah, neat |
13:54.10 | takk|dead | mm, magic |
13:55.11 | carpman | scanline: Oh, I put some stickers on sasami. I found a realy cook Irkin logo transfer sticker. |
13:55.16 | carpman | s/cook/cool |
13:55.25 | scanline | Irkin? |
13:55.29 | carpman | Invader Zim |
13:55.33 | scanline | oh yea |
13:55.35 | scanline | neat |
13:56.55 | scanline | g++ is so much slower than gcc... ugh |
13:57.17 | carpman | "Oh, but its so much easier to code in" |
13:58.15 | fragglet | jetstream? |
13:58.24 | scanline | PicoBot: jetstream? |
13:58.25 | PicoBot | well, jetstream is a game captain_proton and scanline are working on, with Python scripting and PicoGUI HUD and menu system |
13:58.42 | fragglet | hmm |
13:58.42 | scanline | PicoBot: jetstream is also at http://jetstream.babylonia.flatirons.org |
13:58.43 | PicoBot | okay, scanline. |
13:58.46 | fragglet | super duper funkiness |
13:59.21 | scanline | there are some more screenshots and a very short movie at http://jetstream.babylonia.flatirons.org/download/ |
13:59.38 | fragglet | heh |
13:59.39 | fragglet | i love picogui |
13:59.47 | carpman | haha, all your base :) |
13:59.49 | scanline | :) |
14:00.14 | scanline | captain_proton likes C++, and there aren't really any memory limitations for jetstream since it's meant to run on high-end hardware |
14:01.10 | takk|dead | "C++ sucks" |
14:01.21 | carpman | C++ does suck |
14:01.35 | fragglet | is this using the opengl picogui backend |
14:01.46 | carpman | AoFBot: C++ is <reply> C++ sucks. |
14:01.46 | AoFBot | Ok, carpman. |
14:01.54 | scanline | fragglet: yep |
14:02.14 | scanline | fragglet: it also uses pgserver compiled as a shared library and linked in with the C++ code, with cli_python running the GUI |
14:02.21 | scanline | hehe |
14:02.27 | carpman | I've been forcefed C++ on many occasions, and I think as an object oriented language, it sucks. |
14:02.32 | scanline | it's looking like picogui will give us a lot of neat advantages |
14:02.49 | fragglet | and now we have the five minute long jam |
14:02.51 | scanline | the UI is really easy to work on using XWTs and themes, and having a more complete widget set will make things like in-game editors much easier |
14:03.13 | carpman | takk|dead: python... try it. |
14:03.19 | scanline | carpman: I really don't like how it handles virtual function calls... I've been trying to use templates to do some workarounds for that' |
14:03.45 | takk|dead | carpman: I keep meaning to. I've looked at it briefly, but it didn't make much on an impact on my brain |
14:04.11 | scanline | STL is interesting.. not nearly as clean as python, but it eliminates a lot of the low-level chores you have in C |
14:04.18 | carpman | takk|dead: its not realy impresive until you try to code in it. Once you do, your hooked. |
14:04.28 | takk|dead | ruby & lisp are another two languages I want to look at closely |
14:04.35 | takk|dead | currently, the coolest language I've found is Lua |
14:06.45 | scanline | carpman: for jetstream I've been working on this class called ScriptableObject, that lets you create objects that exist in both c++ and python concurrently |
14:07.03 | scanline | and now I'm using python threads |
14:07.15 | carpman | scanline: hehe, python threads. |
14:07.16 | takk|dead | that's very neat |
14:07.41 | fragglet | its a shame python doesnt suck more |
14:07.50 | scanline | haha |
14:07.51 | scanline | why? |
14:07.54 | fragglet | then we could make jokes like |
14:07.58 | fragglet | python..... bites |
14:08.17 | carpman | scanline: I'm waiting impatiently for interuptible threads. |
14:08.55 | scanline | carpman: I think under most cases I wouldn't want them, since it would be easy to leave a mutex locked or leave some data in an inconsistent state |
14:09.30 | carpman | scanline: well, Guido's idea is to raise an exception in a target thread, so you could have an exception handler do all the cleanup. |
14:09.35 | scanline | It would be nice if there was a way to interrupt the nonblocking I/O another theread is doing.. not sure if that exists yet or not |
14:09.41 | scanline | ah, that'd be neat |
14:10.17 | carpman | ack! |
14:10.30 | scanline | well, it's working fine with 2.1.3 freetype |
14:10.38 | carpman | level 1 of jetstream: Getting jetstream running |
14:10.41 | scanline | 2.1.2 freetype compiles with the ftgl driver, but results in strange bugs |
14:10.58 | scanline | we'll have binaries for multiple platforms I'm sure |
14:11.17 | carpman | well, off to do some stuff. See you all later. |
14:11.23 | fragglet | bye bye |
14:11.26 | scanline | it hasn't actually been ported to anything but linux yet, but we're planning on at least a win32 port, and I'd think a MacOS X port wouldn't be too hard either |
14:11.31 | scanline | bye carpman |
14:18.17 | takk|dead | hm. looks great |
14:35.12 | *** join/#picogui gonkulator (~brandon@user-33qtv7t.dialup.mindspring.com) |
14:35.17 | gonkulator | PicoBot: seen scanline |
14:35.18 | PicoBot | scanline was last seen on #picogui 23 minutes and 46 seconds ago, saying: bye carpman [Sun Dec 1 07:16:05 2002] |
14:35.27 | scanline | morning gonkulator |
14:35.29 | gonkulator | hi scanline |
14:35.40 | gonkulator | scanline: how long did you sleep after the LAN party? |
14:35.56 | scanline | dunno... 10 hours? |
14:36.49 | gonkulator | cool |
14:37.17 | scanline | yep |
14:37.24 | scanline | if we can install it and it works, then she'll buy it |
14:37.42 | gonkulator | cool |
14:38.59 | gonkulator | I have to be in C-Springs by 11:30 |
14:39.26 | scanline | guess this will have to wait a few weeks then |
14:39.50 | gonkulator | well, it doesn't take me but 20 minutes to get an iBook apart |
14:39.57 | gonkulator | and maybe 30 to get it back togeather |
14:40.15 | gonkulator | non-apple laptops are usually easier to take apart and put back togeather |
14:41.25 | gonkulator | hmm... |
14:41.36 | gonkulator | perhaps your right about waiting though |
14:41.46 | file | :( |
14:42.16 | gonkulator | when I feel rushed, I make small (usually insignificant) mistakes |
14:42.21 | gonkulator | and mistakes here are bad |
14:42.56 | scanline | gonkulator: I was just asking my mom, it's ok for you to come over this morning to do the disk installs |
14:43.42 | gonkulator | oh, cool |
14:43.59 | file | what time is it now? |
14:44.20 | scanline | 7:47 |
14:44.31 | gonkulator | scanline: alright |
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14:44.49 | file | hi merlin |
14:44.50 | gonkulator | scanline: I'll come over around 9:15 |
14:45.04 | scanline | gonkulator: she wants an exact backup and restore of the disk contents though, so we'll probably have to boot off a gentoo CD and do that over the network |
14:45.11 | gonkulator | erm... between 9:15 and 9:45 |
14:45.23 | gonkulator | scanline: will you do the software stuff :) |
14:45.40 | file | and don't screw it up!!! |
14:45.41 | merlin262 | morning scanline |
14:45.45 | gonkulator | hi merlin262 |
14:45.51 | takk|dead | moo merlin |
14:46.05 | gonkulator | takk|dead: this is strictly a "no moo'ing" channel |
14:46.11 | takk|dead | it is? |
14:46.18 | takk|dead | would "yak" be okay instead, then? |
14:47.01 | gonkulator | PicoBot moo is <reply> this is strictly a "no moo'ing" channel |
14:47.01 | PicoBot | i already had it that way, gonkulator. |
14:47.17 | file | wow - even on my NAT internet sharing I managed to setup WinMX to work right |
14:51.29 | file | argh |
15:04.36 | scanline | wow, backed up almost 3GB already |
15:04.43 | file | of how much? |
15:04.46 | scanline | 10GB |
15:04.55 | file | ahhh neat |
15:05.08 | file | upgrading it to what? |
15:05.16 | gonkulator | 40GB |
15:05.23 | file | wooh, nice increase |
15:05.29 | scanline | I booted the laptop off a Gentoo CD and did a 'cat /dev/hda | ssh micah@192.168.1.101 "cat > ~/nomad.hda"' |
15:05.47 | file | and that's going to be effective? |
15:05.54 | scanline | of course |
15:06.13 | scanline | I would have used netcat, but that wasn't installed |
15:06.29 | scanline | these are both fast machines, so ssh isn't limiting the speed |
15:06.43 | file | but... cat /dev/hda?!?!? |
15:06.55 | file | oh well |
15:06.57 | scanline | yes file, you can do that under linux |
15:07.00 | gonkulator | file: yes, in unix, everything is a file |
15:07.03 | file | I know you can do it... |
15:07.06 | scanline | you get an exact copy of the hard disk, including partition table |
15:07.14 | file | but I didn't know it would actually work |
15:07.30 | scanline | so when we put in the new disk, I'll restore the image, then use normal methods to resize the partition |
15:07.42 | file | how do you restore it? |
15:07.47 | scanline | gentoo CD |
15:07.53 | file | command. |
15:07.53 | gonkulator | w00t for gentoo! |
15:08.16 | scanline | ssh micah@192.168.1.101 "cat ~/nomad.hda" > /dev/hda |
15:08.20 | file | :) |
15:08.34 | takk|dead | as r00t, obviously |
15:08.40 | scanline | yeah |
15:09.19 | gonkulator | hehehehe |
15:10.07 | scanline | I have a 5GB file in my home directory =) |
15:10.45 | scanline | hmm.. I didn't think about hard disk DMA when I was playing with that video recorder for jetstream |
15:10.50 | scanline | wonder if this will make any difference |
15:10.55 | file | buahahahaha, it'll soon be 10GB! |
15:11.24 | scanline | right now it's writing at about 3MB/second without breaking a sweat, but the video recorder would need 10x that |
15:11.40 | file | try, try |
15:11.55 | scanline | yeah, I need to write a video recorder class for my new module interface first |
15:17.27 | scanline | this will also be a good test of ScriptableMethod and EngineModule |
15:22.51 | hikke | scanline: How about dropping frames & comå |
15:23.02 | hikke | comå = compressing |
15:23.04 | hikke | :P |
15:23.56 | scanline | It already throttles the output down to some specified frame rate. 30MB/sec is about what you get for 640x480 at 30 frames per second. Compression would be another thing to try... would need something that doesn't take much CPU though |
15:25.31 | scanline | PicoBot: 640*480*3*30/1024/1024 |
15:25.31 | PicoBot | 26.3671875 |
15:25.37 | scanline | 26.3 megabytes/second |
15:25.43 | scanline | quite a bit... |
15:28.12 | gonkulator | ok |
15:28.17 | gonkulator | see you in a bit scanline |
15:48.30 | flexo | PicoBot: 476234^347623553444423/bin/sh |
15:48.30 | PicoBot | flexo: i'm not following you... |
15:48.34 | flexo | :( |
15:48.38 | scanline | haha |
15:49.03 | scanline | even if picobot did have a buffer overflow, it's running in its own user |
15:49.38 | flexo | hmm |
15:50.26 | flexo | scanline: you know how to use the PIT? ;) |
15:50.31 | scanline | PIT? |
15:50.49 | flexo | programmable interval timer |
15:51.00 | scanline | probably not |
15:51.15 | scanline | is this the one that's in x86 hardware? |
15:51.16 | file | flexo: flex those brain muscles! |
15:51.17 | flexo | yes |
15:51.32 | scanline | oh. i've used that before, but that was a while ago |
15:51.46 | flexo | i understood most of its behaviour |
15:51.47 | flexo | but |
15:51.48 | flexo | <PROTECTED> |
15:52.07 | flexo | ^ i dunno what "triggers", "forcing", "gate", "input" and "high" means in that context ;) |
15:53.06 | scanline | "triggers" probably means the timer starts counting, and forcing the gate input high is proably done by turning a bit on in the timer's register |
15:53.31 | flexo | the timer has a register? ;) |
15:54.04 | scanline | yeah.. a couple of them |
15:54.08 | flexo | i interact with 4 ports |
15:54.13 | scanline | those are registers |
15:54.17 | flexo | hmmm |
15:54.20 | flexo | ok |
15:54.42 | scanline | I guess I meant ports.. I forget x86 terminology |
15:54.58 | flexo | the first 3 ports are used to write a byte to count_start or to read the latched value of the counter |
15:55.20 | flexo | and the 4. port is: |
15:55.21 | flexo | <PROTECTED> |
15:55.21 | flexo | <PROTECTED> |
15:55.21 | flexo | <PROTECTED> |
15:55.21 | flexo | <PROTECTED> |
15:55.23 | flexo | <PROTECTED> |
15:55.26 | flexo | (sorry for flood) |
15:55.38 | flexo | i can't see any "gate" ;) |
15:55.57 | scanline | I'm probably not going to be much help with this, I never did much with the x86 timers and it's been a while since i've done any real x86 bare-metal programming |
15:56.12 | flexo | hm :| |
15:58.53 | flexo | The 8254 has been hardwired so that the output from Timer 2 is connected to the gate (trigger) input of Timers 0 and 1; this enables Timers 0 and 1 to generate independent PWM waveforms, which are connected to the motor H-Bridge amplifiers |
16:01.48 | file | EVIL!!!!! |
16:05.58 | file | be afraid, be very afraid |
16:06.05 | file | scanline: estimated time till gonkulator's arrival? |
16:06.18 | scanline | dunno |
16:06.54 | file | can't you use the GPS tracking device I planted on him? |
16:07.03 | scanline | no.... |
16:07.18 | file | I knew I should have made it water proof! |
16:28.30 | flexo | uhm... GATE and OUT are single pin for each timer of the controller somehow connected (hardwired ;) to eachother on the ibmpc mobo |
16:28.42 | flexo | *pins |
16:30.10 | flexo | hm... bochs is evil bloated crap |
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17:15.06 | gonkulator | PicoBot: seen scanline |
17:15.07 | PicoBot | scanline was last seen on #picogui 1 hours, 8 minutes and 3 seconds ago, saying: no.... [Sun Dec 1 09:11:37 2002] |
17:15.16 | gonkulator | PicoBot: seen captain_proton |
17:15.16 | PicoBot | captain_proton was last seen on #picogui 12 hours, 43 minutes and 41 seconds ago, saying: hmm, another 6 hours or so for him [Sat Nov 30 21:36:09 2002] |
17:15.29 | file | hey gonkulator |
17:16.05 | gonkulator | hi file |
17:18.01 | file | great |
17:18.09 | file | start the installation procedure! |
17:27.49 | takk|dead | heh. |
17:31.58 | file | owww I hurt... |
17:45.48 | scanline | ? |
18:36.25 | file | scanline: you there? |
18:36.54 | scanline | no |
18:37.10 | file | how goeth the installation? |
18:37.34 | scanline | squishy |
18:37.42 | file | squishy? clarify |
18:37.54 | scanline | like the wet kiss on the end of a hot fist |
18:38.04 | file | ...o' |
18:39.56 | file | I feel so awful |
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18:44.53 | file | hi Xentac |
18:44.58 | Xentac | hi file |
18:45.36 | file | Xentac: what's up? |
18:46.04 | Xentac | not too much |
18:46.47 | file | oh |
19:32.41 | Xentac | hey kergoth |
19:32.47 | kergoth | hey |
19:33.03 | kergoth | fun! |
19:33.13 | Xentac | hehehe |
19:33.21 | Xentac | you'll have just as much fun as me... only for longer! |
19:33.26 | kergoth | indeed |
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20:04.42 | *** join/#picogui Kidder (kidders@h24-65-171-188.gv.shawcable.net) |
20:11.19 | Xentac | Kidder: if you want to learn about chess... I have a good site for you (if you don't mind the reading... it's really good) |
20:11.28 | Xentac | and I'm still just in the beginning stuff ;o) |
20:15.08 | file | I need an advil |
20:15.12 | file | my head is pounding |
20:18.43 | Kidder | cool |
20:19.28 | file | I hate these ones... |
20:22.09 | Xentac | http://members.aol.com/manusfealy/ |
20:22.12 | Xentac | file: you read it too |
20:22.14 | Xentac | learn chess |
20:22.15 | Xentac | chess good |
20:23.57 | Xentac | chess is teaching my how to be better at sparring |
20:23.57 | file | my EBay auction is at $20.50 USD so far |
20:24.00 | file | with 1 day and 22 hours to go |
20:24.13 | file | Cost CAD: $5 |
20:26.36 | Xentac | file: are you reading that page? |
20:27.08 | Xentac | read the page! |
20:27.11 | Xentac | it even has pictures! |
20:27.26 | file | no |
20:27.58 | Xentac | come on... pictures! |
20:28.07 | flexo | PORN pictures! |
20:28.21 | Xentac | yeah right.. pictures of naked chess pieces! |
20:28.34 | takk|dead | heh. |
20:28.43 | flexo | unconcious == ? |
20:28.55 | file | I'll bbl... I seriously can't keep my eyes open... |
20:29.24 | Xentac | flexo: you know... when you've been knocked out... you're still alive, but it's almost like you're sleeping... |
20:29.40 | flexo | ic :) |
20:29.43 | Xentac | coma, knocked out, passed out |
20:30.24 | takk|dead | except you want to know that the correct spelling is unconscious |
20:30.41 | Xentac | hehehe, yeah... that would probably help ;o) |
20:30.47 | file | oh go stick a joystick up your @$$! |
20:30.55 | flexo | takk|dead: that would have helped too ^^ |
20:31.02 | Xentac | PicoBot: file? |
20:31.03 | PicoBot | AoFBot: file or a little girl in a frilly dress. or not scanline's mother or going to die at the hands of DevGirlJr several times or the whipping boy of the room or Joshua Colp |
20:31.03 | AoFBot | I don't know about thatPicoBot. |
20:31.27 | Xentac | PicoBot: file is also a poor spelling Canadian |
20:31.27 | PicoBot | okay, Xentac. |
20:31.36 | takk|dead | hah |
21:16.45 | otherproton | PicoBot: seen scanline? |
21:16.45 | PicoBot | scanline was last seen on #picogui 2 hours, 37 minutes and 12 seconds ago, saying: stuffs a small nulear explosion into a large snowman and hands it to file's hand [Sun Dec 1 11:44:08 2002] |
21:19.32 | file | EVIL!!!!! |
21:19.53 | file | be afraid, be very afraid |
21:21.46 | takk|dead | file's back |
21:22.00 | file | yeah |
21:22.03 | file | feeling better |
21:35.49 | scanline | hi otherproton |
21:36.10 | otherproton | sup scanline |
21:36.57 | otherproton | so i'll get back to bhaskara tonight and prompty boot into windows :P |
21:37.12 | scanline | haha |
21:38.53 | otherproton | hmm, emerge borks in -p -u world |
21:39.10 | takk|dead | whoever invented the "yes" command should be shot |
21:39.45 | otherproton | takk|dead: yes is very useful in some cases |
21:40.33 | takk|dead | when? |
21:40.47 | otherproton | if you have something like a kernel config but want all the default values |
21:40.54 | otherproton | yes | make config |
21:40.58 | takk|dead | heh |
21:42.18 | scanline | otherproton: how about NuppelVideo for jetstream? |
21:42.35 | otherproton | NuppelVideo? |
21:42.50 | scanline | it's a GPL'ed video codec designed for low CPU consumption when encoding |
21:44.27 | scanline | there's a player, recorder, editor, and some utilities like a converter for nuppelvideo->divx |
21:44.32 | scanline | and mplayer can handle it |
21:44.52 | otherproton | well we'd want to reencode to divx anyway |
21:45.05 | otherproton | but if it can solve our disk bandwidth problems, it looks nice |
21:45.21 | scanline | we could also use libavifile, though I doubt there's enough CPU to record directly to divx |
21:46.32 | scanline | if you don't mind a dependency on libavifile, it would be easy to record to any specified codec |
21:46.58 | otherproton | our dependency list is getting large :) |
21:47.54 | scanline | nuppelvideo is simple enough we'd just include a copy of the encoder |
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21:54.17 | otherproton | howabouts we do nuppel for now |
21:59.35 | otherproton | grumblegrumble - macgyver isn't out on dvd :( |
22:00.30 | file | haha' |
22:02.40 | otherproton | . |
22:02.41 | otherproton | k my ISP hates me. |
22:02.41 | otherproton | <PROTECTED> |
22:02.41 | otherproton | anti-C49F82B.dyn.optonline.net] |
22:02.42 | otherproton | t |
22:02.44 | otherproton | a way i can make a spare machin |
22:02.46 | otherproton | r somethign? |
22:02.49 | otherproton | o slow. |
22:02.51 | otherproton | eb! |
22:02.54 | otherproton | t. |
22:02.56 | otherproton | <PROTECTED> |
22:02.59 | otherproton | oburn@anti-17D1E71E.ns.sympatic |
22:03.01 | otherproton | ous ISP hated me so much they b |
22:03.04 | otherproton | ning up for their service |
22:03.07 | otherproton | eeeek |
22:03.09 | otherproton | wtf |
22:05.06 | merlin262 | I think my ISP is blocking ports |
22:05.09 | merlin262 | humph! |
22:09.22 | otherproton | . |
22:09.22 | otherproton | k my ISP hates me. |
22:09.22 | otherproton | <PROTECTED> |
22:09.23 | otherproton | anti-C49F82B.dyn.optonline.net] |
22:09.23 | otherproton | t |
22:09.25 | otherproton | a way i can make a spare machin |
22:09.28 | otherproton | r somethign? |
22:09.30 | otherproton | o slow. |
22:09.33 | otherproton | eb! |
22:09.33 | file | stop 'dat |
22:09.35 | otherproton | t. |
22:09.39 | otherproton | <PROTECTED> |
22:09.40 | otherproton | oburn@anti-17D1E71E.ns.sympatic |
22:09.43 | otherproton | ous ISP hated me so much they b |
22:09.45 | otherproton | ning up for their service |
22:09.48 | otherproton | noo |
22:09.50 | otherproton | . |
22:09.53 | otherproton | k my ISP hates me. |
22:09.56 | otherproton | <PROTECTED> |
22:09.58 | otherproton | anti-C49F82B.dyn.optonline.net] |
22:10.01 | otherproton | t |
22:10.03 | otherproton | a way i can make a spare machin |
22:10.06 | otherproton | r somethign? |
22:10.08 | otherproton | o slow. |
22:10.09 | file | he's looping... |
22:10.10 | merlin262 | someone kick otherproton! |
22:10.11 | otherproton | eb! |
22:10.14 | otherproton | t. |
22:10.16 | otherproton | <PROTECTED> |
22:10.19 | otherproton | oburn@anti-17D1E71E.ns.sympatic |
22:10.21 | otherproton | ous ISP hated me so much they b |
22:10.24 | otherproton | ning up for their service |
22:10.26 | otherproton | ARGH |
22:10.36 | file | r u sure? |
22:10.43 | otherproton | i killed it |
22:10.48 | otherproton | with a big stick |
22:10.52 | file | great |
22:10.57 | merlin262 | can someone do me a favor, and see if they can't get a response(ssh) from merlins.homelinux.com |
22:11.26 | otherproton | SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_3.4p1 Debian 1:3.4p1-1 |
22:11.50 | merlin262 | can you get a response from pern.textux.com? |
22:12.00 | file | no |
22:12.08 | merlin262 | (ssh) |
22:12.17 | file | yet again, no |
22:12.45 | otherproton | pern.textux is dead on the table |
22:12.56 | merlin262 | damn... |
22:14.14 | merlin262 | doh!' |
22:14.16 | merlin262 | it's a typo |
22:33.01 | takk|sleep | night all |
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22:44.18 | darth_balls | yay, I'm back! |
22:44.31 | scanline | hey darth_balls |
22:44.52 | darth_balls | hey scanline |
22:45.12 | darth_balls | ok scanline, what do I have to do to get my GUI in redhat to look like yours?? |
22:45.34 | scanline | I'm using fluxbox... so install fluxbox? :) |
22:45.38 | darth_balls | ok |
22:45.42 | darth_balls | that's what I needed to know |
22:53.07 | darth_balls | Me thinks file does too |
22:53.46 | darth_balls | damn, dad hasn't set up his voice mail on his new fone yet |
22:57.32 | darth_balls | is there a command in the terminal to switch desktops? |
22:57.49 | scanline | chvt? |
23:00.28 | Xentac | file: did you read that chess site? |
23:00.33 | file | no |
23:00.36 | file | stop asking |
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23:00.53 | file | ok |
23:04.00 | darth_balls | brb |
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23:14.06 | darth_balls | ok, stupid question |
23:14.11 | darth_balls | how do I reconfigure X? |
23:14.24 | Xentac | change your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file? |
23:16.22 | darth_balls | no, that's not what I wanted |
23:16.28 | darth_balls | I can't get it to switch to fluxbox |
23:16.42 | Xentac | what dist and how do you start X? |
23:16.54 | Xentac | that's not an X config thing... that's what happens /after/ X starts |
23:17.41 | darth_balls | well, but X is configured to automatically load KDE and I want it to stop doing that |
23:19.40 | Xentac | no |
23:19.48 | Xentac | X is /not/ configured to autmatically load KDE |
23:19.51 | darth_balls | oh |
23:19.59 | Xentac | the program that starts X is configured to automatically load KDE |
23:20.05 | darth_balls | ok |
23:20.08 | Xentac | what distro and what do you use to start X? |
23:20.17 | darth_balls | redhat |
23:20.20 | Xentac | ok |
23:20.25 | Xentac | and when does X start up? |
23:20.34 | darth_balls | when I type startX (?) |
23:21.24 | Xentac | ok |
23:21.36 | Xentac | I'm not sure about redhat's start-up scripts... |
23:21.46 | Xentac | my suggestion is to do a 'which statx' |
23:21.48 | Xentac | er, startx |
23:21.52 | Xentac | and read the script |
23:22.06 | darth_balls | ok |
23:22.20 | Xentac | but it's probably a .xsession or .xinit file you need to add |
23:22.40 | darth_balls | all it gave me was a path |
23:22.46 | darth_balls | or do I need to be no in X when I type it |
23:23.08 | Xentac | no no... |
23:23.10 | Xentac | the path is good |
23:23.14 | darth_balls | ok |
23:23.16 | Xentac | do a less `which startx` |
23:23.16 | darth_balls | rigth |
23:23.18 | Xentac | read the script |
23:23.19 | darth_balls | i understand |
23:23.22 | Xentac | use the source |
23:23.30 | darth_balls | ya |
23:24.07 | merlin262 | got DNS working properly now |
23:26.06 | Xentac | merlin262: good for you |
23:30.32 | file | Xentac? |
23:30.56 | Xentac | file: do you know how to play chess yet? |
23:31.13 | file | Xentac: maybe if you answer 1 question |
23:31.21 | flexo | bios just got to the point where it enables the dma controller :) |
23:31.28 | Xentac | what's the question? |
23:31.50 | file | Xentac: do you still have a PCMCIA CD-Rom drive? I found someone who might rehash my ISA Warplink driver to PCMCIA, so I need a drive to install Mandrake on aramius |
23:32.25 | Xentac | file: ah... I do... but my dad's using it right now... I sold it to him with the laptop |
23:32.33 | file | Xentac: curse you! |
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23:56.12 | file | Xentac: poke |