irclog2html for picogui on 2002.09.11

00:00:08Xentachehehe
00:00:13Xentacprpplague: yeah... Shotokan karate
00:00:26Xentacwatches "Becoming..." on Much Music..
00:00:37prpplagueXentac: i'm not familiar with that philosphy
00:00:43prpplagueXentac: educate me
00:01:06Xentacprpplague: what are you familiar with?
00:02:22XentacGichin Funakoshi was the creator... he trained under two masters (I can't remember their names)... he developed a set of kata (forms) for beginners and taught karate in schools (upon invitation from the Japanese emperor (I believe...) )
00:02:37prpplagueXentac: very little of karate, i've read some texts on bushido
00:02:43Xentacone of the more recent forms of karate...
00:02:49kergoth_greetings
00:02:50Xentackarate means empty (or open) hand
00:03:12prpplaguekergoth_: greetings
00:03:29prpplaguekergoth_: life at digi fun?
00:03:37Xentacthis particular form was developed in Okinawa (sp?) for the peasants to defend themselves from the samurai who were inhabiting...
00:03:50kergoth_prpplague: hah, yeah right
00:03:51prpplagueXentac: ahh so this is more of an educational trend
00:03:55kergoth_prpplague: frustrating
00:04:05kergoth_Xentac: you study karate eh? nifty
00:04:20Xentackergoth_ yeah... I have my second degree...
00:04:27Xentacprpplague: educational trend?
00:04:45prpplagueXentac: "a set of kata for beginners"
00:04:49Xentacnot really... it was enhanced to make it easier for kids to do it... so more was added to it
00:04:59Xentacok
00:05:03Xentacyeah...
00:05:16prpplagueXentac: aka pascal for c programmers
00:05:21XentacI wouldn't say the karate is any simpler/easier/less than any of the others
00:05:22Xentacno...
00:05:42Xentacit's just that it starts off smaller
00:05:46prpplagueahh
00:05:49Xentacsort of like learning C before doing assembler
00:05:57prpplagueXentac: ahh
00:06:02Xentacinstead it used to just be a pure assembler art ;o)
00:06:18prpplaguekergoth_: been there, done that, ohh wait still there
00:06:36kergoth_I havent trained in any martial arts in quite some time. I would like to return and continue the jeet kune do training eventually. however, i'm too broke to afford training atm.
00:06:38kergoth_heh
00:07:17prpplaguei'd like to find a ti chi class around here, but thats hard to find in texas, lol
00:07:46kergoth_What I like about jeet kune do, is its lack of kata
00:07:48kergoth_heh
00:08:56Xentachehehe
00:08:59Xentaclikes the kata... but anyway
00:09:32Xentacthinks that there needs to be a geek version "Becoming"... it like, "Who will be the one to become Alan Cox?"
00:09:36kergoth_hah
00:09:58prpplagueXentac: my wife suggested we put our son in karate school
00:11:09Xentachas this feeling that any of his children will do at least some training...
00:11:43prpplaguehmm, maybe i need to check in on it
00:11:53Xentacbut yeah... Becoming Alan Cox... and you'd get all sorts of Alan Cox swag... like a beard... and old hardware... and new hardware... and... ummmm... an email that was digitally signed by AC himself!
00:12:05Xentacprpplague: it'd be an idea
00:12:40Xentacand they'd teach you how to kernel hack... and you could rewrite some driver that he wrote at one point...
00:12:42Xentacit'd be great!
00:12:48prpplaguei spend about 20 minutes talking to AC at ols
00:12:53prpplagues/spend/spent
00:24:06Xentacprpplague: that's cool... what did he have to say?
00:26:03Xentacis away: getting beat up
00:35:29KeyserSozeWhat's a good choice for a Linux PDA?
00:36:22KeyserSozeMy tuxscreen is too big to keep in my car, but I think I could rig up a little mount someone for a PDA, and if it runs picoGUI I wouldn't have to start over with my navigation app.
00:36:31KeyserSozes/someone/somewhere
00:36:51KeyserSozeSeems like the cheapest choice would be a Helio, followed by an Agenda VR3.
00:37:18KeyserSozeThen there is the Sharp Zaurus and the Yopy, and they are > $300.
00:40:19KeyserSozeI'd prefer a color display, or course as large as possible, and with the fastest possible processor, most memory, etc., all for the cheapest price, plus be picGUI compliant :)
00:41:58KeyserSozeI read a bit about the new rendition of strongARM from Intel, called xscale, but can't find any info of ports of linux to PDA's with it, or if any linux PDAs will use it.
00:42:43KeyserSozeit's 0.18 micron vs. the current strongARM's .35 micron, so it'll run faster and cooler than strongarm.
00:43:52KeyserSozeThis thing is cool, too: http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS4054087444.html
00:44:21filewho are you talking to?
00:44:35KeyserSozeit's about PDA sized, with a 4" 640x480 color LCD, but has a 1Ghz transmeta crusoe, 256mb ram, 10gb disk, and other cool stuff.
00:44:44KeyserSozemyself, i'm pretty sure.
00:44:49fileyeah
00:44:54KeyserSozeother people are welcome to jump in though :)
00:45:11filenah
00:45:17KeyserSozePicoBot: what's the best linux PDA?
00:45:17PicoBotkeysersoze: i don't know
00:45:22KeyserSozePicoBot: PDA?
00:45:22PicoBotkeysersoze: i don't know
00:45:32KeyserSozefile: what's the best PDA?
00:45:54fileKeyserSoze: ... any PDA that runs Linux!
00:46:04KeyserSozethere are several to choose from :)
00:47:05KeyserSozemaybe I'll just get a helio for now, and then get a fancy color PDA with Xscale or a transmeta crusoe a few months later.
00:47:49filebbl
00:52:14KeyserSozeagenda vr3 appears to be superior to the Vtech helio.  4mb flash vs 2mb, and a bigger display.
00:56:52scan[ibook]KeyserSoze: check out the softfield VR3s
00:57:12scan[ibook]they're about $120 I think, and even though the developer community on those is small, it's bigger than the Helio
00:58:18KeyserSoze105 for the 8mb ram version, 135 for the 16mb ram version.
00:58:36KeyserSozehas an optional ethernet adapter for $95.
00:59:27KeyserSozethanks, scanline.
01:00:15KeyserSozehave you ever used picogui on a PDA?
01:04:39prpplagueXentac: sorry dude, down system
01:04:39KeyserSozethe vr3, for instance, has handwriting recognition capability, but it uses FLTK.
01:08:06prpplagueargh, this nassau deal is driving me nuts
01:08:19prpplagueKeyserSoze: what device are you talking about?
01:08:31KeyserSozewhen?  I ramble a lot...
01:10:22KeyserSozevr3?
01:14:51KeyserSozewonders if there was one of those channel-split dealees
01:18:29scan[ibook]KeyserSoze: yeah, I used it on the Helio and the Zaurus
01:18:55KeyserSozecould you use handwriting recognition when using picogui?
01:19:35prpplagueKeyserSoze: ahh you were talking about the oqo
01:19:56KeyserSozeoh, I *was* talking about the oqo, when I was talking about the oqo.
01:19:56scan[ibook]Handwriting recognition is relatively new in picogui, so I never tried it on the helio. haven't gotten around to trying it on the zaurus yet
01:19:59KeyserSozeit is pretty neat.
01:20:14KeyserSozewas saying the oqo is pretty neat.
01:27:00KeyserSozenewegg has zauri for $350.
01:30:47KeyserSozeack!  The zaurus doesn't have a serial port, except in the cradle.
01:31:04gonkulatorthats what wireless is for
01:31:10gonkulatoris back (gone 24:06:48)
01:32:03KeyserSozehow do I use wireless to connect to my serial GPS, or my serial accelerometer, or my serial OBD-II converter, or my serial 2 axis magnetometer, or my serial navigation computer...
01:32:42prpplaguenight all
01:32:43gonkulatorum... with another zaurus with wireless and a serial port on the docking station :)
01:32:45gonkulatornight prp
01:32:49gonkulatordarn it...
01:32:53KeyserSozetoo late :p
01:33:34KeyserSozewants a PDA with like 5 serial ports
01:33:39KeyserSozemuhahahahaha!
01:36:51KeyserSozethe g.mate yopy is selling for $399 from gmate's homepage.
01:37:35KeyserSozeand it has a serial port.
01:42:56gonkulatorwhat is a g.mate?
01:43:12KeyserSozethe company that makes a beast known as "yopy"
01:43:23KeyserSozehttp://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT5725922098.html
01:44:57KeyserSozehttp://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT9898112976.html     has a few good comparison shots of the yopy and a zaurus.
01:45:42KeyserSozeack, it has no compact flash slot :(
01:46:05gonkulatorbummer
01:46:46KeyserSozedoh!  it has no backlight!
01:46:55KeyserSoze(or light of any kind)
01:48:17gonkulatorsounds like a piece of junk
01:48:30KeyserSozebut then on another link, it says it has a backlit LCD.  /me is confused.
01:48:45gonkulatorsounds like a piece of junk that is being marketed
01:48:54KeyserSozegoddamn it.  the same link that says it has a backlight, says it has a compact flash slot.
01:49:48scan[ibook]I think somebody in #tuxscreen has a yopy.. better to ask about it there than speculate
01:50:20scan[ibook]might try #zaurus too if you're feeling brave
01:51:15KeyserSozei'll try #tuxscreen.  www.yopy.com is short on info.
01:52:11KeyserSozethe article that says it has a backlight and CF slot is dated jan 2001.  the one that says it doesn't is dated feb 2002.
01:56:35scan[ibook]k
01:58:22KeyserSozeahh!  they're everywhere!
01:58:33KeyserSoze(scanlines, that is)
01:58:53scanlinehehe.. xchat segfaulted, then I accidentally opened more than one new one
02:02:58scanlinehmm.. motherboard works, both CPUs work, but MP mod failed.. time to try again
02:14:12gonkulatorhopes the mod works
02:14:22KeyserSozewonders what the mod is.
02:14:23gonkulatorscanline: use LOTS of graphite
02:14:34gonkulatorKeyserSoze: basically, you short two pins with graphite
02:15:01gonkulatorand that is enough to make it work as advertised :)
02:15:11gonkulatoror, better than advertised :)
02:15:19KeyserSozeto overclock?  or just to get it to work?
02:15:33gonkulatorto make the XP work as an MP
02:15:42KeyserSozeah, gotcha.
02:15:58scanlinew00t!!!
02:15:59gonkulatorSpeedy2 was in here a while ago giving scanline a hard time about it...
02:16:02scanlinegot it working!
02:16:06scanlinebios detects two MPs!
02:16:07gonkulatorw00t!!!
02:16:16KeyserSozehas Scooby Doo pencils for athlons, if you need them.
02:16:28scanlinehad to scrape the surface of the pins first to make better contact, and use more graphite
02:16:34scanlinehehe, scooby doo?
02:16:39KeyserSozeyup.
02:16:41scanlineI used a 0.5mm mechanical pencil
02:16:53scanlinegoes to put the rest of his peripherals in
02:17:04KeyserSozei read a how-to that recommended a specific composition of graphite, and at the store the only ones that had it were scooby-doo pencils.
02:17:06gonkulatorgrins and realizes that he won't be getting a CPU upgrade
02:17:28KeyserSozecongrats.  what MB is it?
02:17:35gonkulatorchuckles at KeyserSoze's pencils
02:17:50scanlineAsus A7M266-D
02:18:07KeyserSozegonkulator: fine, then you don't get to use one.  I loaned them out to a few people at work who OC'd, back in the day.
02:18:32gonkulatorKeyserSoze: it isn't a bad sort of chuckle, but more of an approving sort of chuckle :)
02:18:53scanlineKeyserSoze: the procedure for enabling SMP on an XP is even easier than unlocking the multiplier
02:19:34KeyserSozenice MB.  do you have any 64-bit PCI cards?
02:19:42scanlineyep
02:19:45scanlinegigabit ethernet
02:19:50KeyserSozedrools.
02:19:53scanline:)
02:19:57scanlineit's the cheap sort of gigabit though
02:20:03scanlinetwo d-link cards and a crossover
02:20:14KeyserSozetwo?  i don't get it.
02:20:27scanlineone in my server, one in my desktop
02:20:28gonkulatorKeyserSoze: what is the smallest number of computers that can make a useful network?
02:20:45scanlinethis motherboard has three power connectors... normal ATX and two auxiliary
02:20:56scanlineand my 450W supply can supply all three
02:20:57KeyserSozedoh.  i thought you meant two in the same pc.  channel-bonded ethernet is cool, and not cheap. :)
02:21:05scanlinehehe
02:21:11gonkulatorlol
02:21:33gonkulatorknow how to make a cat woof like a dog?
02:21:42KeyserSozeno. :(
02:21:45gonkulatorcover it in gasoline and throw it on the fire
02:21:52KeyserSozeknow how to stop a clown from laughing?
02:21:59gonkulatorcover it in gasoline and throw it on the fire?
02:22:00KeyserSozehit it in the face with an axe!
02:22:15KeyserSozewhy'd the monkey fall out of the tree?
02:22:24gonkulatorcause you hit it with an elephant gun?
02:22:25scanlinehrm.. no free PCI slots for the USB2 card it came with
02:22:31KeyserSozebecause it was dead!
02:22:33scanlineoh well.. I like firewire better
02:22:39gonkulatorscanline: put the USB2 card in navi :)
02:23:08scanlineI could use the onboard sound to save one slot.. but that would probably suck
02:23:14KeyserSozewhy does it have a card for usb2?  
02:23:30scanlineI dunno.. motherboard came bundled with a usb2 card and a 3com ethernet card
02:23:35KeyserSozeis it a pci card, or does it just go in a slot?
02:23:36scanlineI won't be using either of them right away
02:23:39scanlinePCI
02:23:54gonkulatorscanline: can I not have that USB2 card?
02:24:05scanlineI'll sell it to ya :P
02:24:08scanlinewhat do you want USB2 for?
02:24:24gonkulatorasks scanline to re-read his statement
02:24:30scanlineoh
02:24:43scanlinedecides to not be not dyslexic and unattentive :P
02:25:17gonkulatoralso wants not to have that 3com card
02:26:06KeyserSozewouldn't not mind not having a dual athlon system.
02:27:02gonkulatorthrows a sense bomb at file
02:28:14KeyserSozeverified on Tom Shardware that the a7m266-d does indeed implement it's usb 2.0 on a pci card, and not on the MB.
02:28:25gonkulatorshard ware?
02:28:42KeyserSozehttp://www6.tomshardware.com/mainboard/02q1/020211/images/dual7.jpg
02:28:51gonkulatorwas giving KeyserSoze a hard time... :()
02:28:53gonkulator:)
02:28:55KeyserSozeyeah, you never heard of Tom Shardware? :)
02:29:14KeyserSozeit's a really cool site, you should give it a look-see.
02:29:38gonkulatoroh well
02:29:45scanlineheh.. my motherboard's box has a tom's hardware sticker of approval on it :)
02:30:12gonkulatorso does most of the stuff I have gotten
02:30:18KeyserSozedid asus put that on?  or the reseller?
02:30:32KeyserSozehas never seen a t. shardware sticker of approval.
02:33:15scanlineasus
02:33:35scanlineacutally, it's a "asus, rated best motherboard manufacturer of the year by tom's hardware" or something
02:36:28gonkulatortalks about 10.2 with Mr. RDF himself
02:37:12KeyserSozewonders if picoGUI will have noticeably better performance on the VR3 than X
02:37:36gonkulatorwonders about KeyserSoze's sanity
02:37:54gonkulatorasks scanline: whats faster than PicoGUI?
02:38:00KeyserSozeso does KeyserSoze, but that's not important now.
02:38:29KeyserSoze"The Agenda developers decided that the additional overhead of X is small enough that they did not want to give up the ability to use other non-FLTK X-based applications"
02:38:32scanlineKeyserSoze: I've never used picogui on the VR3 so you'd have to ask someone like lalo or sean barnes.. but I'd assume it would be much faster
02:39:32KeyserSozewants to hear scanline's answer to gonkulator's question.
02:39:47gonkulatorscanline: whats faster than PicoGUI????
02:40:38KeyserSozeguesses, one of those little lizards that runs with it's arms back, and has a big flare of skin it can pop out when frightened.
02:40:48gonkulatorfrom Australia?
02:40:55KeyserSozesouth america?
02:41:22KeyserSozesophie should know, they are her favorite bipedal lizard.
02:41:32gonkulatorso go ask her!!!
02:41:44KeyserSozeshe thinks austrailia.
02:42:17scanlinegonkulator: i dunno...
02:42:49KeyserSozehow about when you grease up a piglet, and try to chase it, and it spurts out of your grasp?
02:42:56KeyserSozethat's got to be pretty fast...
02:43:03gonkulatoror light
02:43:06gonkulatorlight is pretty fast
02:43:30KeyserSozeor a greased piglet in a particle accelerator, at 0.999c
02:43:54gonkulatorKeyserSoze: yeah, doesn't get any faster than that
02:45:03KeyserSozeyou'd have to electrically charge the piglet, of course, or you couldn't accelerate it with the EM fields.
02:45:24gonkulatortrue, but that is a small price to pay for a super accelerated greased piglet
02:45:26scanlineisn't paying attention to IRC much, too busy connecting piles of ribbon cables :)
02:45:56gonkulatorKeyserSoze: we should send one of these super accelerated greased piglets at scanline's machine and see what happens
02:46:06KeyserSozewonders if the grease would fly off the piglet from electrical repulsion, and if that would decrease the theoretically top-piglet speed.
02:46:58KeyserSozeis going to go to sleep now, and not get a linux pda until tomorrow.
02:47:02gonkulatorKeyserSoze: not if the piglet was reverse chared
02:47:07gonkulators/chared/charged
02:48:14gonkulatorum...
02:48:22gonkulatoryou piglet greaser
02:48:57K[greasingPigletwhy doesn't this server let me change nicks as much as I want to?
02:50:07Keyser[zzz]you'd have to charge the grease and the piglet oppositely, and then put a electrical resistor between them.
02:50:16gonkulatoryeah
02:50:18gonkulatorGO TO BED :)
02:50:21Keyser[zzz]maybe a plastic bag, with airholes for the pig to breath.
02:50:28Keyser[zzz]:)
02:50:52gonkulatorgoes to pee
02:53:15gonkulatorreturns
02:56:41scanlinebuilds a SMP kernel
02:58:04gonkulatorwaits for the phone to ring
02:59:38gonkulatorit rings
02:59:43gonkulatoris away: talking on the phone
03:21:59Xentacis back (gone 02:55:56)
03:22:47scanlineyay, my SMP works
03:23:07scanlinebut most of the kernel modules on yoshi won't load... guess I'll just get me a fresh kernel
03:25:57Xentacscanline: yoshi is SMP? you bastard...
03:26:20Xentacyou know... reading the back buffer... the yopy changed a lot from the original idea...
03:27:11Xentacbut the yopy has one thing up on the Zaurus... it comes in two different case colours...
03:27:46scanlinehaha
03:28:06scanlineI did SMP the cheap way.. two Athlon XP's and a pencil
03:28:23Xentacummm... a pencil...?
03:28:39scanlineyep
03:28:46Xentacdefine...
03:28:47Xentacquickly...
03:28:52Xentacbefore my head explodes...
03:29:44scanlinethe only difference between an athlon XP and an MP is one jumper
03:30:18Xentacummm...
03:30:29XentacI know what an athlon XP is but what's an MP?
03:31:27Xentacis that like (XP)++
03:31:28Xentac?
03:31:29Xentac;o)
03:32:34scanlineMP is the multiprocessor version
03:32:43Xentacoh, I see
03:32:45scanlineso.. I just bridged that jumper with pencil graphite
03:33:00Xentacso, sort of like XP being eXPerience... MP is MultiProcessor...
03:33:12Xentacgeez... I think the suits have taken acronyms too far
03:33:20Xentacthey make them just for the sake of making them
03:33:34Xentacat least in the geek world, when they're made like that, they're funny!
03:35:48Xentacscanline: if you wanted X on a PDA you should have bought a Yopy instead of a Zaurus...
03:40:51scanlineI like the zaurus hardware better
03:40:57Xentacreally?
03:41:02Xentacthere isn't much of a difference, is there?
03:41:05scanlineyeah.. compactflash
03:41:08Xentac:)
03:41:10Xentacright...
03:41:19Xentacbut there's the yopy propietary i/o thingy...
03:42:22scanlineheh
03:42:29scanlineI really don't care what software a PDA ships with
03:42:35scanlineI like alternative distros like OZ
03:42:38Xentacfair enough
03:42:41Xentac:)
03:42:43Xentacas do I
03:42:58Xentacespecially when you have people like kergoth to bitch and complain to
03:43:04scanlinehehe
03:47:46Xentacscanline: is that guy on #zaurus on crack?
03:52:12XentacanotherScanline: don't talk to xx50... I want to see if he continues blabering...
03:52:23anotherScanlinewho's xx50?
03:52:34Xentaca psycho
03:52:43anotherScanlineah
04:12:18gonkulatortime index verification
04:12:40Xentachey gonkulator
04:12:45gonkulatorhi Xentac
04:12:50gonkulatorwhats up?
04:12:57Xentacnot too much...
04:13:01Xentacback from being beat up...
04:13:05scanlinehmm
04:13:06gonkulatoralways fun
04:13:09Xentacwe did a 500 kick drill... but only really did about 350...
04:13:14gonkulatorscanline: how is your SMP box doing?
04:13:24scanlinegonkulator: configuring a kernel for it
04:13:35scanlineI'm running a SMP kernel right now though
04:13:38scanlineit's really neat
04:13:39gonkulatorsounds like a pain
04:13:41gonkulatoroooh
04:13:42gonkulatorcool
04:13:46scanlinejust making a fresh 2.4.19 for it
04:13:46gonkulatordid you get a lemon?
04:13:48Xentacwhat's a pain...?
04:13:50scanlineit's not a pain...
04:14:01scanlinenotes that gonkulator assumes too much
04:14:03gonkulatorSymetric Multi pains
04:14:14Xentacthinks he's just going to sit back till someone talks directly to him...
04:14:16gonkulatorhas made that mistake far too many times
04:14:20scanlineand it's working fine, hence that implies I didn't get a lemon
04:14:20scanlineXentac: hi
04:14:22gonkulatorXentac: hi
04:14:24gonkulatorheheheh
04:14:29scanlinewhatever...
04:14:29Xentacbah
04:14:34Xentacaddresses me...
04:14:42gonkulatorXentac: I am addressing you
04:14:48XentacI realize that
04:14:52gonkulatorXentac: I am stamping you and mailing you now too
04:14:56Xentacbut that whole speal before was not address to me
04:14:59Xentacbah
04:15:03Xentacyou heard about my laptop right?
04:15:10gonkulatorand the cracked LCD
04:15:10Xentacthe other 570... from Ontario...
04:15:12Xentacyeah
04:15:14Xentacdid you see the pictures?
04:15:16gonkulatorno
04:15:25Xentachttp://xentac.net:8085/~jchu/busted
04:15:36Xentacall the ones with an 's' at the beginning are the 1024 versions of the 1600 pictures
04:16:29gonkulatorI still think your street is missing the w
04:16:49Xentacand a d?
04:16:54gonkulatorthat too
04:16:57Xentac:P
04:17:30gonkulatornotes that there are lots of pictures of the crack
04:17:47Xentacyup
04:17:51XentacI took many for the guy
04:17:55Xentache had to call them
04:18:14gonkulatorOntario sucks, Ontario sucks
04:18:24Xentachehehe
04:18:33gonkulatoroh my...
04:18:38gonkulatorI just saw a picture of it on
04:18:41gonkulatoris sad
04:18:54Xentacyeah
04:18:54Xentacpretty bad, eh?
04:18:55gonkulatorthe carnage
04:19:24XentacI thought something looked wrong with it when I looked at the lcd with it off (you can't really tell, but there is some colour differences)
04:19:27Xentacso I turned it on for a sec
04:19:29Xentacand that's what happened ;o)
04:19:39gonkulatoryeah
04:19:42gonkulatorthats pretty bad
04:20:03Xentacyup
04:20:20gonkulatorI remember when I cracked the LCD on thermite
04:20:25gonkulatorI felt like shit for three days
04:20:47Xentachehehe
04:20:56Xentacthis one didn't really matter to me... I was going to turn around and sell it anyway
04:21:04Xentacinstead I'll probably get insurance money for it
04:21:12gonkulatorthat works too
04:21:36gonkulatornotes that he had 10 minutes to call Kathy back
04:21:43gonkulatorscrolls up for the time stamp
04:21:49Xentachehehe
04:22:06gonkulator22:18:29 by my clock
04:22:07Xentacso... the dating man now, eh?
04:22:17Xentacit's 22:28 now...
04:22:20gonkulatoryeah, I guess
04:22:25gonkulator10 minutes exactly
04:22:26gonkulatork, later
04:22:29gonkulatoris away: phone
04:22:30Xentachehehe
04:22:30Xentacta ta
04:22:46gonkulatorring ring ring
04:22:50gonkulatortwo rings
04:22:54gonkulatorthree rings
04:23:00gonkulatorfour rings
04:23:09gonkulatorfive rings and to the machine
04:23:11Xentachehehe, if they ever are on the internet at the same time... I always type, "Ring ring <name>"
04:23:33gonkulatoroh, she was definately not on the phone
04:23:47Xentacshe uses dial-up...?
04:24:25gonkulatorshe does use dialup
04:24:33gonkulatorbut she isn't online right now
04:25:25Xentac*gasp* your gf uses dialup?
04:25:31Xentacthat's.. that's... horrible
04:25:39Xentacyou can't talk on the phone and on the internet at the same time!
04:25:43Xentachow do you live?
04:25:50gonkulatorok
04:25:54gonkulatoris on the phone
04:26:01Xentacguess he'll stop being fecious (sp) now.
04:26:30Xentacooooooo
04:26:31Xentacoooooooooo
04:26:34Xentactell her I said hi!
04:26:37Xentacjumps up and down!
04:26:49Xentacwith exclaimation points even!
04:27:11Xentacand after doing 350 kicks, that's pretty good
04:27:24Xentacvery... ummm... enthusiastic
04:27:46Xentacshould keep a folder of spam... and then one day go through and read the subjects...
04:28:03Xentaclike this one, "STOP PAYING FOR PORN!"... when was the last time I paid for porn?
04:28:04Xentacgeez...
04:28:46Xentacanyway... I suppose you're not actually reading the screen
04:28:52XentacI'm dejected now and I'm going to bed
04:28:56Xentacmy weary body need rest
04:30:47Xentacis away: comatose
04:54:43gonkulatorhey laodamas
04:55:34gonkulatoroh well
04:55:37gonkulatorgoes to bed
05:19:09laodamaspoke -r scanline
05:19:25scanlinerecieved message 'poke'
05:21:09laodamassudo cp scanline ~/etc
05:21:28scanlinehmm.. this camera's not too bad in low light
05:21:48laodamasHow low?
05:22:01scanlineroom is completely dark except for my LCD and yoshi's case
05:22:10scanlineand I can see pretty much everything
05:22:15scanlineI can send you a snapshot...
05:22:26laodamask
05:22:39scanlineproblem is that the CCD noise is really amplified in low light...
05:22:44laodamasIt needs an nightvision mod :)
05:22:49scanlinewhen even the flourescent light is on, the signal is much better
05:22:49scanlinehehe
05:22:56scanlineI just need some IR LEDs
05:23:34scanlinecan you accept the DCC?
05:23:58scanlineYoshi is dual athlon now
05:24:15laodamasneat. How many fans?
05:24:23scanline11 I think
05:24:55scanlinethis firewire camera is pretty spiffy.. If I turn down the exposure some the video comes in much faster
05:27:47laodamasnope DDC is broken in this beta
05:28:01scanlinewhoa this is funky...
05:28:19scanlinelittle bug in the YUV conversion at some resolutions makes for a pretty cool special effect
05:28:20laodamasfink in building xchat right now
05:28:25laodamasalong with X...
05:29:06laodamasand 80 other packages...
05:29:13scanlinehehe
05:29:49laodamasis rebuilding everything with gcc 3
05:30:06laodamasanyway 11 fans?
05:30:14scanlinesomething like that
05:30:22scanlineI didn't add but one extra fan when going to dual athlon
05:30:26scanlineI already had lots of case fans
05:31:01laodamashow many watts does it dissapate?
05:31:11scanlinemaybe 400
05:31:33scanlinehaving trouble getting my gigabit ethernet card working though...
05:31:41laodamasYour UPS should be able to tell you (%current load / max load)
05:32:00laodamasStandard PCI grimlens?
05:32:14scanlinewell, two reasons why it isn't... I only have very simple software for it now, and secondly yoshi isn't on the UPS right now (cord not long enough)
05:32:32scanlinewell, could be something to do with the 64-bit PCI
05:32:48laodamaswith a cheap NIC?
05:33:10laodamascheap/bad chipset
05:33:17scanlinenot really
05:33:26laodamashmmm
05:34:26scanlinelaodamas: join #bzflag
05:37:56scanlinelaodamas: I'm not sure whether captain_proton and lurgyman have been spouting Firesign, Tom Lehrer, or just something completely random :)
05:38:26laodamasscanline: sounds like fourtinecookie
05:42:17laodamasscanline: the dark side of ee
05:42:30scanlineheh, yep
05:50:50laodamashates casual differential linear time involution systems
09:14:51filescanline?
09:14:57filebah
10:47:33gonkulatormorning fikl
10:47:35gonkulatorfile
11:56:22gonkulator{2}PicoBot: seen file
11:56:24PicoBotfile was last seen on #picogui 2 hours, 41 minutes and 25 seconds ago, saying: bah [Wed Sep 11 04:21:10 2002]
12:09:33gonkulator{2}PicoBot: seen scanline
12:09:33PicoBotscanline was last seen on #picogui 6 hours, 27 minutes and 2 seconds ago, saying: heh, yep [Wed Sep 11 00:48:44 2002]
12:18:53gonkulator{2}hey prpplague
12:21:59prpplaguemorning
12:28:02Xentacis back (gone 07:57:15)
12:30:13carpman{sasami}morning all
12:32:46Xentacmorning carpman{sasami}
12:45:06gonkulator{2}hey carpman{sasami}
12:45:07gonkulator{2}hi Xentac
12:45:14Xentachi gonkulator{2}
12:45:21XentacPicoBot: gonkulator{2}?
12:45:22PicoBotbugger all, i dunno, xentac
12:45:24gonkulator{2}is watching speeches
12:45:27Xentachehehe
12:45:31gonkulator{2}this is painful
12:45:49Xentacwhos speeches?
12:45:56gonkulator{2}just people in my speech class
12:46:15XentacI see...
12:46:27gonkulator{2}doesn't like it
12:46:48Xentachow come?
12:47:22gonkulator{2}because they get nervous and it is boring to watch nervous people get up and talk
12:47:28Xentachehehe
12:47:33Xentacwell... can you blame them?
12:47:54gonkulator{2}yes
12:47:58gonkulator{2}nothing hard about it
12:47:59Xentacwhy?
12:48:06gonkulator{2}brb,. my turn
12:48:10Xentacmaybe for you
12:50:38gonkulator{2}there, that went well
12:50:48gonkulator{2}ooooh, now we get to tie shoes
12:51:06Xentacummm... wow...
12:51:43carpman{sasami}gonkulator{2}: I thought you were in college :)
12:52:11Xentachehehe
12:52:15carpman{sasami}gonkulator{2}: by the way, how did scanlines new board work?
12:52:43gonkulator{2}carpman{sasami}: it detected the MPs, and last time I talked with him, he was compiling an SMP kernel for it
12:53:01gonkulator{2}carpman{sasami}: yeah, college is fun
12:53:07gonkulator{2}talked about playing craps
12:53:23carpman{sasami}w00t for SMP!
13:31:42gonkulator{work}is away: I'm busy
13:31:50gonkulator{work}is back (gone 00:00:02)
13:39:18gonkulator{work}PicoBot: seen Xentac
13:39:18PicoBotXentac was last seen on #picogui 47 minutes and 7 seconds ago, saying: hehehe [Wed Sep 11 07:58:24 2002]
13:39:22gonkulator{work}hmm...
13:39:25gonkulator{work}he must not be here anymore
13:42:23Xentacis...
13:42:25Xentacsort of...
13:42:27gonkulator{work}oh, ok
13:42:30Xentacbut not for much longer...
13:42:37gonkulator{work}is waiting for the boss man to show up
13:42:44Xentachow come?
13:43:45Xentacbegins ph33ring why busybox is taking so long to install on his zaurus... hopefully it's just all those symlinks...
13:45:15Xentacphew... it was all the symlinks
13:51:19Xentacis away: wurk
13:52:10gonkulator{work}is away: working
15:17:10gonkeyPicoBot: seen scanline
15:17:10PicoBotscanline was last seen on #picogui 9 hours, 34 minutes and 38 seconds ago, saying: heh, yep [Wed Sep 11 00:48:44 2002]
15:45:09scanlineis away: class
15:58:39DevGirlhey hey :D
16:03:07prpplaguePicoBot: seen bob
16:03:07PicoBotI haven't seen 'bob', prpplague
16:03:27prpplaguePicoBot: seen shit
16:03:27PicoBotI haven't seen 'shit', prpplague
16:37:51gonkulator{work}returns
16:37:56gonkulator{work}PicoBot: seen DevGirl
16:37:57PicoBotDevGirl was last seen on #picogui 39 minutes and 17 seconds ago, saying: hey hey :D [Wed Sep 11 11:04:52 2002]
16:38:11gonkulator{work}pokes DevGirl
16:38:44DevGirlpokes gonkulator{work}
16:38:50DevGirlhehehehe :D
16:38:56gonkulator{work}says HI
16:39:07DevGirlHIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!
16:39:11DevGirlhappy :D
16:39:17hikkeHi!
16:40:13gonkulator{work}DevGirl: I get to take a road trip with my girlfriend this weekend
16:40:16gonkulator{work}I am very anxious
16:40:49gonkulator{work}the best part is that it is a "buissness trip"
16:40:58gonkulator{work}so it is also a tax write off :)
16:41:43gonkulator{work}is also happy
16:41:45gonkulator{work}just like DevGirl
16:42:26DevGirlhehehheheheh
16:42:58DevGirlis sleeping in a couple-size bed :D
16:43:03DevGirlfinally :D
16:43:08DevGirlno back aches
16:43:42gonkulator{work}thats wonderful
16:43:57gonkulator{work}is still trying to figure out sleeping accomidations for his trip
16:45:38gonkulator{work}seeing as my girlfriend and I are of a different gender and all...
16:45:46DevGirl:D
16:46:40DevGirlused to use money shortage as a excuse to sleep with boyfriend during trips ^^
16:47:15gonkulator{work}well, I have a money shortage right now, but when I get back, I am going to be the opposite of money shortage
16:47:32DevGirlyay!
16:47:33DevGirl:D
16:48:07gonkulator{work}gets to spend a good amount of time with her, AND make lots of money.  What could be better?
17:03:18DevGirlyeah...
17:03:28DevGirlnothing can be better
17:03:50gonkulator{work}gets to have lunch with her today too
17:06:27scanlineis back (gone 01:21:18)
17:06:44gonkulator{work}hi scanline
17:06:47scanlinehi
17:06:52gonkulator{work}has a test in 45 minutes
17:07:10scanlinemmmkay
17:07:52gonkulator{work}it is in... LOGIC
17:28:59gonkulator{work}is away: class time
17:42:49filepokes prpplague
17:42:58prpplaguehides
17:43:18fileprpplague : status of operation "I hate customs!"?
17:44:53fileprpplague : come on... answer me, I'll give you a beer!
17:45:04prpplaguefile: nada, no one at the post of who knew how to send something to canada, will try later this after noon
17:45:36fileprpplague : idiots!
17:46:54fileprpplague : are you the only smart one?
17:47:35fileis it a rural post office?
17:47:43filehi carpman
17:48:38carpman{sasami}hi file
17:48:49filewhat's up?
17:49:03carpman{sasami}I got my zaurus's wireless card registered here at school.
17:49:10filenice
17:49:13prpplaguefile: what do expect? i live and work out in the middle of no where!
17:49:18carpman{sasami}Probably wont be useable until tommorow tho
17:49:25fileprpplague: oh it's rural
17:49:31carpman{sasami}PicoBot: seen scanline
17:49:31PicoBotscanline was last seen on #openzaurus 29 minutes and 45 seconds ago, saying: What's a situation where the thick interfaces are better? Maybe it's a little faster, but that's all I can think of [Wed Sep 11 12:25:58 2002]
17:49:46fileprpplague: well that bites
17:49:47carpman{sasami}PicoBot: seen gonkulator{work}
17:49:47PicoBotgonkulator{work} was last seen on #picogui 20 minutes and 47 seconds ago, saying: is away: class time [Wed Sep 11 12:35:12 2002]
17:50:15carpman{sasami}hehe, I'll be able to listen to di.fm on my zaurus >:)
17:50:17fileprpplague: well they got it last time...
17:51:07filegives prpplague  a beer
17:51:55carpman{sasami}w00t, nirvana is playing on the jukebox
17:52:10filewhere are you?
17:52:21carpman{sasami}The student union
17:52:27fileoh
17:52:37carpman{sasami}ut:d is so much cooler than UNT. Everyone here has a higher geek quotent.
17:52:46filewow
17:52:50carpman{sasami}I feel like I'm home. :)
17:52:53fileis talk of Linux common place?
17:53:19carpman{sasami}Talk, yess, but I've not seen many laptops with it.
17:53:37filebah
17:53:38carpman{sasami}lots of Dells with XP.
17:53:49fileXP... slow
17:53:51carpman{sasami}Several Macs with OSX tho.
17:53:59file10.1?
17:54:01carpman{sasami}indeed.
17:54:09fileno 10.2?
17:54:17carpman{sasami}Everyone is impresses with sasami >:)
17:54:23carpman{sasami}file: both.
17:54:28fileic
17:54:35filePicoBot: sasami?
17:54:36PicoBotsasami is carpman's ibook
17:54:40fileahhhhhhhhh ic
17:54:42fileGentoo!!!
17:54:58carpman{sasami}Indeed!!!
17:55:30scanlinehi carpman{sasami}
17:55:39carpman{sasami}hi scanline
17:55:50carpman{sasami}I have my zaurus's mac registered
17:56:01scanlinegood
17:56:13filescanline: how's yoshi?
17:56:17carpman{sasami}scanline: they didn't complain about it in the slightest, I just walked in, asked to do it, and they said "sure"
17:56:24carpman{sasami}ooo, now there playing Jimmy Hendrix...
17:56:27scanlinefile: still haven't fixed the gigabit ethernet, but everything else is functioning fine
17:56:34filescanline: good
17:56:58scanlinecarpman{sasami}: hmm.. you have to manually register it? Here they just have a web form thing, and if you use your own DNS servers you can bypass the registration entirely
17:57:07fileno ADSL today! :(
17:57:32carpman{sasami}scanline: yeah, they have that here too, but they have to enable it to let you register more than one mac.
17:58:18scanlineah
17:58:45scanlinecarpman{sasami}: I don't suppose you have any experience with 64-bit PCI and linux? :)
17:59:05carpman{sasami}scanline: nope, no 64bit PCI boards, yet >:)
17:59:19carpman{sasami}scanline: but if you want to make a contribution...
17:59:38scanlineis a login on yoshi good enough? :)
18:00:10carpman{sasami}scanline: hehe. I'll let you take care of it.
18:00:43scanlinereads his boot messages
18:00:48scanlinesure are lots of them on a SMP machine
18:01:01carpman{sasami}Ah, friday I'll be able to walk arround campus and listen to di.fm on my zaurus.
18:01:27scanlinewants to finish making picogui work in openzaurus
18:01:41scanlineneed to fix some pgserver and pgl bugs, and finish a boot menu
18:01:50carpman{sasami}oh, that reminds me.
18:01:58carpman{sasami}where was pgl-launcher segging?
18:02:22scanlinenot sure, but I think it's in reading the app.conf's
18:02:34carpman{sasami}ah, ok.
18:02:51carpman{sasami}you MIGHT be using old app.confs, but even so it shouldnt seg.
18:03:09carpman{sasami}I changed the format to allow for apps packaged for more than one arch.
18:03:19scanlinewell, if you want to see what I'm doing just take a look at the openzaurus CVS
18:03:38carpman{sasami}ok, will do when I get home.
18:03:42scanlinek
18:08:53carpman{sasami}Well, about time for class. bbl
18:40:31scanlineis away: class
18:48:55fraggleyay
18:49:17scan[ibook]eh?
18:52:52Xentac[work]hey all
18:53:25Xentac[work]PicoBot: seen scan[ibook]
18:53:26PicoBotscan[ibook] was last seen on #picogui 4 minutes and 8 seconds ago, saying: eh? [Wed Sep 11 13:55:30 2002]
18:53:28Xentac[work]PicoBot: seen scanline
18:53:28PicoBotscanline was last seen on #picogui 12 minutes and 57 seconds ago, saying: is away: class [Wed Sep 11 13:46:44 2002]
18:53:30scan[ibook]hi
18:53:33Xentac[work]hey
18:53:38Xentac[work]networking question for you...
18:53:52Xentac[work]my server can send packets (TX) at more than 300k/s...
18:54:04Xentac[work]but receiving (RX) I get something in the area of 9k/s
18:54:14scan[ibook]hmm
18:54:19Xentac[work]all the error count on the RX's of that interface go up quickly
18:54:21Xentac[work]what's wrong
18:54:34Xentac[work]hums the Jeopardy music.
18:54:50scan[ibook]bad cable?
18:54:54Xentac[work]think so?
18:54:58scan[ibook]yeah
18:55:01Xentac[work]alright...
18:55:02Xentac[work]which one?
18:55:04Xentac[work];o)
18:55:11scan[ibook]pick one :P
18:59:37Xentac[work]I can't go replacing cable though...
19:00:23Xentac[work]I don't have enough ;o)
19:01:00scan[ibook]got a cable tester?
19:01:09Xentac[work]hmmm...
19:01:11Xentac[work]maybe...
19:01:17Xentac[work]I suppose I could logically think it through...
19:01:22scan[ibook]it sounds like one of the two RX wires might be broken
19:01:36Xentac[work]like... for example... if it happens on my brother's computer as well then it's probably the one going to the server...
19:01:41Xentac[work]nods.
19:01:41scan[ibook]data still gets through a bit, but the signal is very noisy
19:03:06Xentac[work]cause, if I could get that fixed...
19:03:09Xentac[work]hopefully...
19:03:18Xentac[work]er... lemme finish taht last sentence
19:03:38Xentac[work]if I could get that fixed... then it wouldn't take me (an estimated) 25 hours to transfer a cd's worth of divx to it ;o)
19:03:56scan[ibook]haha
19:05:40scan[ibook]reboots yoshi with a fresh kernel
19:16:50filehey all
19:18:09Xentac[work]hey file
19:18:17filewhat's up Xentac?
19:18:19Xentac[work]needs a lot of network cable... wanna help?
19:18:21scan[ibook]hi file
19:18:31Xentac[work]I think my network cables are really poor quality
19:18:42fileXentac[work]: I don't have lots, and the cables I have I need
19:19:02Xentac[work]ponders actually running the cable properly... into outlets and stuff...
19:19:17Xentac[work]maybe that could be a project for this weekend... I'll have to talk to my dad about that one...
19:19:43filehi Tux889
19:19:52Tux889hi
19:19:59Tux889whats up
19:20:12fileTux889: what service pack do you have?
19:20:28Tux889file: i dont know whatever one you put on
19:20:43fileI don't remember
19:20:52filego to the Run dialog and type in winver
19:21:12fileif it's not 3, go get 3
19:21:20Tux889file: its 2
19:21:33fileTux889: PSST, upgrade
19:21:38Tux889file: why its still microsoft crap
19:21:59fileTux889: because apps will require 3 to be able to run probably
19:22:03filenew apps that is
19:22:22Tux889maiby later
19:22:31filesighs
19:22:35fileI've got homework to do
19:23:16Tux889me too and ive got to go to swiming from 7:00 till 10:00
19:23:27Xentac[work]goes back to work now...
19:23:55fileTux889: haha
19:24:16Tux889i dont mind, its my job after all
19:24:27fileyes but so utterly boring
19:24:33Tux889no
19:24:52fileit's a dry meet isn't it?
19:25:03Tux889yea i think
19:25:22Tux889but i still have to learn everybodys name and get to know them
19:25:33filefun
19:25:45Tux889yup
19:26:35fileshould get some new firewall software
19:28:26Tux889yes you should
19:29:12filesince I'll be online 24/7 now
19:29:40fileermph homework first
19:30:00fileTux889: my french teacher left
19:38:53Tux889yea you told me
19:42:20scan[ibook]is away: class over
19:42:54fragglePicobot: class?
19:42:54PicoBotwell, class is over
19:46:07filewhiteout time!
19:46:15filefixes an error on his homework
19:48:27scan[ibook]is back (gone 00:06:07)
19:50:19Tux889hey scanline
19:51:13scan[ibook]hi Tux889
19:51:28Tux889hows colege
19:51:46scan[ibook]very collegelike...
19:51:56scan[ibook]classes aren't hard yet, the dorms are good
19:52:16Tux889what are you taking ?
19:52:20filepokes prpplague
19:52:55fileTux889: what's the point of the PPPoE username? is it just used for that?
19:53:04Tux889yup
19:53:37scan[ibook]Tux889: operating systems, algorithms, programming languages, probability
19:53:52Tux889cool
21:05:29carpmanyay, emerge system is done on lain
21:08:15carpmanhi la
21:08:17carpmanack
21:08:19carpmanhi lalo
21:08:31carpmanI need telepathic tab completion
21:08:52lalohi carpman
21:08:59laloyou on x-chat?
21:09:09carpmanyes, I just missed tab before I hit enter :)
21:09:16lalooh :-)
21:09:41laloI was going to say I recently enabled "1.4.x nick completion" and found it great
21:20:18fileawakens
21:20:38fileahhh nothing better than a hot shower to wash away all the C function references on your arms
21:27:15carpmanfile: CHEATING IN C CLASS?!?!?!!?!
21:27:25carpmanPicoBot: file is a megapansy.
21:27:25PicoBot...but file is <reply> File type identification utility. URL: ftp://ftp.astron.com/pub/file/ or very pokeful...
21:27:28fileI don't have any computer related classes till 3rd term
21:27:57carpmanthen why do you have c function refs on your arms?
21:28:17filebecause my code is spread across 6 files and I forgot where some stuff is
21:28:23carpmanoh
21:28:26filelike my html parser I stuck in ts_widgets.c
21:28:35fileit's all scattered
21:28:49filebah
21:28:54fileno ADSL router today :(
21:29:07carpmanalas
21:29:23carpmanPicoBot: seen gonkulator{work}
21:29:24PicoBotgonkulator{work} was last seen on #picogui 4 hours, 25 seconds ago, saying: is away: class time [Wed Sep 11 12:35:12 2002]
21:33:25filecarpman: how goes it?
21:33:38carpmanfile: good
21:33:55filedid you promote Guild of the Void Pointer any?
21:34:03carpmanwhere?
21:34:06fileschool
21:34:13carpmanOh, um. Not really.
21:34:20fileshakes his head
21:34:23carpmanThe Guild isint doing anything until Nov 30.
21:34:33fileyes but you can still ask for donations for contests!
21:34:54filewins them all
21:34:55carpmanI'm not going to ask college students for money, they dont have any. :)
21:35:02filenot money!
21:35:08carpmanOh, junk?
21:35:09fileitems
21:35:13filesure!
21:35:17carpmanI don't have room for junk.
21:35:26fileneither do I...
21:35:38fileis going to have to put his router, hub, and linux box beside his VCR - but only two will fit
21:35:39fileoooh...
21:37:55filehi DevGIrl
21:38:26DevGirlhi, file
21:38:27carpmanhail DevGirl!
21:38:35DevGirlPicoBot: seen gonkulator
21:38:35PicoBotgonkulator was last seen on #picogui 10 hours, 51 minutes and 0 seconds ago, saying: file [Wed Sep 11 05:53:48 2002]
21:38:43DevGirlPicoBot: seen gonkulator{work}
21:38:44PicoBotgonkulator{work} was last seen on #picogui 4 hours, 9 minutes and 44 seconds ago, saying: is away: class time [Wed Sep 11 12:35:12 2002]
21:38:54DevGirlhi, carpman :D
22:00:38KeyserSozeI was asking for opinions yesterday for a good choice for a linux PDA.
22:00:54KeyserSozeanyone have any recommendations?
22:01:12KeyserSozeI'm leaning towards the VR3 right now, but would prefer a model with a color LCD
22:01:36KeyserSozeThe lousy thing about the Sharp Zaurus (for me) is that it has no serial port
22:05:16KeyserSozekeeps thinking that because there are 19 names in the channel, that there are 19 people who will read (and answer) his question.
22:05:40kergothKeyserSoze: it has serial.
22:05:47kergothKeyserSoze: with the right cable (its $50)
22:06:00KeyserSozecool!
22:06:24KeyserSozethat's about $400 total, then.
22:36:11fileXentac???
22:37:05KeyserSozeXentac's not here right now, can I take a message?
22:37:21filemmm I wanted his Jabber address
22:37:40KeyserSozesorry, can't help you there.
22:39:06filewhat's up Keyser?
22:39:13KeyserSozenot too much.
22:39:21fileKeyserSoze : I got broadband!!!!
22:39:32KeyserSozecool.  they have that way up north?
22:39:41KeyserSozecable or DSL?
22:39:45fileit's DSL
22:39:50KeyserSozewhat speed?
22:39:56file1.4mbps down, .6mbps up
22:40:05fileone of the best providers in Canada
22:40:24KeyserSozecool.  i've got 1.5 down but only .25 up.
22:40:38scanlineis away: food? of course not...
22:41:25fileit's an ATM based HFC network
22:41:39KeyserSozedoesn't know what HFC is.
22:42:04filehigh-split fiber/coax
22:42:53fileer
22:42:57filehybrid fiber coax
22:43:07filethwaps his head
22:43:27KeyserSozepizza arrived!
22:43:34KeyserSozeis away, eating pizza
22:43:35filemmm yummy
23:18:43Xentacfile: xentac@jabber.org
23:19:34Xentacis back (gone 09:28:13)
23:21:52filek
23:22:05Xentacwhy?
23:22:25Xentacyou planning on being on Jabber now?
23:26:21Xentacso anyway... I'm idle again...
23:26:34Xentacneeds to eat soon...
23:54:10Xentacfile: yeah, you run!
23:54:39Xentachey scanline
23:55:00scanlinehi Xentac
23:55:34Xentachow's the SMP going?
23:55:50Xentacyou'd better hope that that pencil lead doesn't wear off, eh?
23:55:58Xentacoh wait...
23:56:02scanlinegood... still can't get my 64-bit PCI working though
23:56:09scanlineso I just put my gigabit card in a 32-bit slot for now
23:56:13Xentachehehe
23:56:22scanlinethe pencil lead is pretty protected.. it's under the heat sink
23:57:03Xentacoh, ok
23:57:12Xentacyeah... but with wear and tear... come on... humour me here
23:57:18scanlineheh
23:57:19Xentacwhat would happen if it wore off?
23:57:20Xentac;o)
23:57:24scanlineonly affects it at bootup
23:57:29Xentacah
23:57:31XentacI see
23:57:35scanlineso.. one day it would boot in single-CPU mode
23:57:44Xentacso, one day you'd reboot yoshi and it wouldn't be SMP anymore
23:57:44Xentachehehe
23:58:36scanlinetheoretically...
23:58:54scanlineat that point I'd just stop being cheap and buy a conductive pen, use that instead of pencil lead
23:59:57Xentachehehe

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