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| 02:38.35 | wezlo | anyone in here? |
| 02:38.46 | treke|home | nope |
| 02:38.55 | wezlo | :-) |
| 02:39.06 | wezlo | you ever work with ext2 on an mmc? |
| 02:39.14 | treke|home | briefly |
| 02:39.19 | wezlo | gave up? |
| 02:39.33 | treke|home | dont recall ever having problems |
| 02:39.44 | treke|home | Decided I prefered msdos |
| 02:39.45 | ljp | ya, I met that guy, ext2 once, worked with him a bit. but he got fired |
| 02:40.08 | ljp | I use ext2 on sd |
| 02:40.21 | wezlo | oh, i've got it formatted but opie won't mount it automatically |
| 02:40.24 | wezlo | very strange |
| 02:40.50 | treke|home | what distro on what device? |
| 02:40.55 | ljp | did you fdisk it? it needs the correct partition for automount |
| 02:41.18 | wezlo | familiar 0.6.1 on ipaq 3835 and no I used mkfs.ext2 |
| 02:41.38 | wezlo | fdisk is a mystery to me |
| 02:41.45 | treke|home | fdisk first |
| 02:42.49 | ljp | you can fdisk after the format too :) |
| 02:42.53 | wezlo | can you work me through the fdisk process? |
| 02:43.12 | wezlo | the help menu is a bit, errrr; odd |
| 02:43.27 | ljp | sure, its kinda self explanitory. you will have to install it, not sure if its on by default |
| 02:44.26 | wezlo | no, it's installed and my card is /dev/mmc/part1 |
| 02:44.57 | wezlo | i can get that far |
| 02:45.37 | ljp | ok fdisk /dev/mmc/part1 |
| 02:45.51 | ljp | press m for help |
| 02:46.05 | wezlo | got it |
| 02:46.27 | ljp | I usually press p to see what the heck is there |
| 02:46.49 | ljp | t for toggle |
| 02:47.05 | ljp | select the partition number |
| 02:47.07 | wezlo | alright, it's not listing partitions |
| 02:47.20 | wezlo | so "n" for create a partition, correct? |
| 02:47.25 | ljp | no |
| 02:47.36 | wezlo | oh, what then? |
| 02:47.39 | ljp | exit that and fdisk /dev/mmc |
| 02:47.59 | ljp | I think thats the actual device, not a partition |
| 02:48.20 | wezlo | mmc is a directory in /dev on my system though |
| 02:48.33 | ljp | ahh, hmm |
| 02:48.43 | ljp | what does /etc/fstab list it as? |
| 02:49.11 | wezlo | I was hacking around last night and cleared the partitions, pretty sure of it (becuase I wanted a clean slate today when I got to ask for help) |
| 02:49.31 | ljp | with fdisk? |
| 02:49.40 | wezlo | here's the thing, /etc/fstab doesn't have it listed, it's not mounted (yes, with fdisk) |
| 02:49.57 | wezlo | it doesn't list my vfat cf card either, but that IS mounted........? |
| 02:50.03 | ljp | and you never created another part? |
| 02:50.07 | wezlo | no |
| 02:50.11 | ljp | ipaq? |
| 02:50.18 | wezlo | yes 3835 |
| 02:50.54 | wezlo | p |
| 02:51.39 | ljp | hmm, and part1 is the device? or supposed to be the first partition? |
| 02:52.05 | wezlo | I believe it's the device, when I mounted it as ext2 before that's what I mounted |
| 02:52.19 | wezlo | when I create a partition this is the output: |
| 02:52.26 | ljp | if you were going to fdisk /dev/hda you would create /dev/hda1 on it as partition |
| 02:52.27 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:52.30 | wezlo | oops |
| 02:52.43 | kergoth | er, damn ' ' |
| 02:53.04 | ljp | I dont have an ipaq, so I dont know what the mmc device is |
| 02:53.04 | wezlo | yes, I don't know why it's /mmc/part1 for the device, it struck me as odd |
| 02:53.18 | wezlo | on the zaurus is /dev/mmc |
| 02:53.19 | ljp | that would be the first partition I believe |
| 02:53.21 | wezlo | I know that |
| 02:53.46 | wezlo | yes, but its' not, it must me mmc cards/ first device |
| 02:53.53 | wezlo | weird naming |
| 02:54.17 | wezlo | anyway I created a partition an dit says that /dev/mmc/part1p1 is there |
| 02:55.30 | ljp | ok, just make that partition type 83 |
| 02:55.38 | ljp | then format ext2 |
| 02:56.18 | wezlo | the p command has it listed as Id = 83 system=Linux |
| 02:57.06 | wezlo | m |
| 02:57.47 | wezlo | never mind, it's "t" correct, you're helping me get the hang of the process |
| 02:59.16 | wezlo | here's the problem when it's ext2, however, dmesg reports that it can find a valid FAT filesystem on dev fe:01 |
| 02:59.27 | wezlo | why is it still looking for fat? |
| 02:59.36 | wezlo | the kernel, that is |
| 03:02.24 | wezlo | maybe I should just switch over to handhelds.org, kernel stuff is their thing anyway; thanks for the help |
| 03:47.57 | ljp | wezlo: did you reboot? |
| 03:48.08 | ljp | oh. heh.. nm. your not here |
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| 07:45.35 | david_r | whats the md5sum of bootopie-v061-03.jffs2 ? |
| 07:46.14 | treke|home | there should be an md5sum on the page you downloaded the image from |
| 07:46.28 | david_r | there is |
| 07:46.35 | david_r | but i cant view it |
| 07:46.41 | david_r | could u paste it to me > |
| 07:46.50 | treke|home | its just a text file |
| 07:47.00 | david_r | ie is being a hoe |
| 07:47.10 | david_r | keeps saying it doesnt exist |
| 07:47.38 | david_r | ahh nm |
| 07:47.42 | david_r | got it |
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| 12:35.08 | david_r | any known problems with the todo app on familiar/opie 6.1 build ? |
| 12:43.29 | roman | maybe my fault, but cannot add Alarms and Reminders on IPAQ/familiar 6.1 |
| 12:44.37 | david_r | no i mean, does it run |
| 12:45.05 | roman | yes... for me yes |
| 12:45.09 | david_r | just sorta hangs, the lil eggtimer goes, then dissapears, and no todo app |
| 12:45.25 | david_r | ill update |
| 12:45.26 | roman | ldconfig -v helped me |
| 12:45.59 | roman | /etc/init.d/opie stop ; ldconfig -v ; /etc/init.d/opie start |
| 13:02.07 | david_r | nup |
| 13:02.10 | david_r | http://www.handhelds.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=510 |
| 13:02.16 | david_r | seems to be the same prob |
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| 16:24.02 | Harlekin | moin jg |
| 16:26.16 | jg | Harlekin: morning. |
| 16:47.31 | jg | Harlekin: how's opie doing as we get toward a .7 release? |
| 16:48.31 | Harlekin | current cvs should be ok |
| 16:49.01 | Harlekin | as long as .7 will be close to whats in unstable |
| 16:56.42 | Harlekin | jg: another think that should be done before .7 is to recompile also openobex against the newer glib |
| 16:56.52 | Harlekin | since you guys decides to move to that one |
| 16:56.58 | Harlekin | right now you need both versions installed |
| 16:57.06 | pb_ | Harlekin: would you like to file against openobex in bugzilla? |
| 16:57.20 | Harlekin | hmm, i will ship my own openobex .-) |
| 16:57.24 | Harlekin | withoug glib |
| 16:57.59 | Harlekin | treke did for me |
| 16:58.26 | pb_ | I have no problems with galeon. |
| 16:58.45 | treke | works now for me |
| 16:58.51 | pb_ | well, I'll rephrase that, I have no problems using bugzilla with galeon. |
| 16:58.57 | pb_ | I guess I have plenty of other problems with galeon |
| 16:59.44 | Harlekin | somebody should slim glib |
| 16:59.52 | treke | pb_: previosly it would hang the browser while it tried parsing all of the javascript on the pages. Looks like there is about a tenth of the javascript there used to be |
| 17:00.53 | pb_ | treke: ah. |
| 17:01.52 | Harlekin | Sorry; there needs to be at least one component for this product in order to create a new bug. Create a new component |
| 17:01.55 | Harlekin | hehe |
| 17:02.06 | pb_ | doh |
| 17:02.14 | Harlekin | new -> openobex |
| 17:02.22 | Harlekin | then i get that message ( mozilla ) |
| 17:02.31 | pb_ | ok, let me look |
| 17:03.02 | Harlekin | at least it does not crash mozilla anymore |
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| 17:03.20 | Harlekin | jg: do you know how close keith is to layer support in X? |
| 17:04.21 | pb_ | Harlekin: ah, openobex has "Maintainer: none", which probably upset the bugzilla import script. |
| 17:04.28 | pb_ | do we have any idea who actually does maintain that package? |
| 17:04.38 | Harlekin | i guess nobody .-) |
| 17:04.57 | Harlekin | pb_: there are also openobex updates, for example to make it work with bluetooth |
| 17:05.11 | pb_ | Harlekin: okay. well, being such a nice guy, I put myself in as the bugzilla contact. |
| 17:05.15 | pb_ | the component should exist now |
| 17:05.17 | Harlekin | NetNut404_Work: compared to what |
| 17:05.55 | Harlekin | pb_: hh.org should adapt the kde bts |
| 17:06.07 | pb_ | Harlekin: doesn't kde use bugzilla as well? |
| 17:06.10 | Harlekin | yes |
| 17:06.11 | NetNut404_Work | the categroies added in the Categories.xml file do not show up in contacts or documents now that I switched to ox 3.1 rc2 they worked on ox 3.0 |
| 17:06.12 | Harlekin | but modded |
| 17:06.15 | pb_ | aha |
| 17:06.20 | pb_ | what did they change? |
| 17:06.26 | Harlekin | frontend |
| 17:06.28 | kergoth | kde's bug wizard thingy is spiffy |
| 17:06.28 | Harlekin | easier |
| 17:06.32 | kergoth | :) |
| 17:06.44 | Harlekin | and theres kbugbuster |
| 17:06.53 | Harlekin | an app to work on bugs |
| 17:06.59 | pb_ | ah right, sounds cool |
| 17:07.02 | pb_ | I'll have to check it out. |
| 17:07.05 | Harlekin | of course you could write gbugbuster for your needs .) |
| 17:07.13 | pb_ | hehe |
| 17:07.25 | Harlekin | like dublicated effort is allways good |
| 17:07.26 | kergoth | god i need a laptop |
| 17:07.32 | Harlekin | with that masses of os developers |
| 17:07.33 | Harlekin | .-) |
| 17:07.36 | kergoth | keeping all my trees in sync between work and home is driving me insane |
| 17:07.40 | Harlekin | kergoth: the muramasa from sharp is nice |
| 17:08.04 | pb_ | kergoth: isn't that what revision control is for? :-} |
| 17:08.07 | NetNut404_Work | Harlekin: What did you mean compaired to what? did my last statement answer that question? |
| 17:08.49 | kergoth | pb_: yeah, but i forget to commit my chagnes, and oftentimes i dont want changes upstream yet as they need tender loving care first |
| 17:08.51 | Harlekin | yes |
| 17:08.55 | Harlekin | NetNut404_Work: ask kergoth .-) |
| 17:08.55 | kergoth | pb_: :) |
| 17:08.58 | pb_ | kergoth: ah, I see :-) |
| 17:09.31 | kergoth | wtf, sharp.com wasnt what i expected |
| 17:09.32 | kergoth | heh |
| 17:10.28 | Harlekin | kergoth: http://www.sharp.co.jp/mebius/ |
| 17:10.28 | pb_ | kergoth: get a bluetooth hard disk and leave it in your jacket pocket. |
| 17:10.32 | NetNut404_Work | Harlekin: LOL he told me to ask here |
| 17:11.08 | Harlekin | kergoth: the mm1 with crusoe cpu |
| 17:11.09 | kergoth | pb_: but but... you're taking my excuse to get a new toy! |
| 17:11.11 | kergoth | pb_: :) |
| 17:11.30 | pb_ | heh |
| 17:11.58 | pb_ | kergoth: sounds like I was wrong, what you really need is a laptop. |
| 17:12.14 | kergoth | right, there ya go |
| 17:12.16 | kergoth | ;) |
| 17:13.35 | treke | get me some also |
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| 17:20.38 | kergoth | Harlekin: thats one sexy laptop |
| 17:20.49 | Harlekin | yeah |
| 17:20.54 | Harlekin | i love that cradle |
| 17:21.02 | Harlekin | external usb2 hd in that mode |
| 17:21.03 | Harlekin | since |
| 17:21.03 | Harlekin | light |
| 17:21.04 | Harlekin | slim |
| 17:21.05 | Harlekin | wlan |
| 17:21.06 | kergoth | wonder if anyone ships it outside the US |
| 17:21.07 | kergoth | er |
| 17:21.09 | kergoth | outside JP |
| 17:21.11 | Harlekin | yeah |
| 17:21.14 | Harlekin | your one company does |
| 17:22.19 | kergoth | what company? |
| 17:23.40 | Harlekin | the one that has the c700 |
| 17:23.41 | Harlekin | too |
| 17:24.26 | Harlekin | cannot remember the name |
| 17:28.57 | kergoth | ah |
| 17:30.20 | Harlekin | what was it again? |
| 17:30.31 | kergoth | ah |
| 17:30.35 | kergoth | shop.conics.net has a h1w |
| 17:30.39 | kergoth | dynamism has a h3w |
| 17:30.49 | kergoth | both ship anywhere, but conics you pay with paypal or some shit |
| 17:30.51 | Harlekin | the h3 is the one with p3 |
| 17:31.05 | kergoth | ah |
| 17:31.12 | kergoth | http://shop.conics.net/laptop/sharp/h1w/h1w.html |
| 17:31.15 | Harlekin | 1300 $ is ok |
| 17:31.18 | kergoth | yeah, not bad |
| 17:31.23 | kergoth | tempting :) |
| 17:31.27 | Harlekin | actually its cheap |
| 17:31.43 | Harlekin | the question is how good linux runs on i |
| 17:32.11 | kergoth | well, its crusoe |
| 17:32.14 | kergoth | x86 compatible |
| 17:32.18 | kergoth | linux works for transmeta |
| 17:32.19 | Harlekin | yeah, but still |
| 17:32.20 | kergoth | i'd think we'd be ok |
| 17:32.22 | kergoth | hehe |
| 17:32.28 | Harlekin | network, wlan etc |
| 17:32.36 | kergoth | yeah, good question |
| 17:32.38 | Harlekin | bluetooth is missing |
| 17:32.45 | Harlekin | except that, its my dream laptop |
| 17:33.12 | kergoth | well, a small USB BT unit would fix that right up, or pcmcia |
| 17:33.18 | pb_ | it's easy to add bluetooth with one of those usb dongles though, so shouldn't be a big deal. |
| 17:33.21 | Harlekin | still |
| 17:33.21 | kergoth | :) |
| 17:33.26 | Harlekin | build in would be better |
| 17:33.30 | kergoth | yeah |
| 17:33.43 | kergoth | man, if only i wasnt broke right now |
| 17:33.46 | Harlekin | it only has 2 usb ports |
| 17:33.48 | kergoth | heheh |
| 17:34.01 | Harlekin | Battery life: Up to 3.2 hours with standard battery* |
| 17:34.12 | Harlekin | and sharp is known to have that 9 h extra battery pack |
| 17:34.18 | Harlekin | they allready hat that for the old muramasa |
| 17:34.26 | Harlekin | which is probably quite cheap now on ebay |
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| 17:35.10 | kergoth | its 2lbs? mann |
| 17:35.41 | Harlekin | its tiny |
| 17:53.11 | kergoth | Harlekin: realtek 8139 network, lanexpress 802.11 minipci, ac97 audio |
| 17:53.15 | kergoth | Harlekin: should work fine |
| 17:53.29 | kergoth | i need to install japanese fonts, i'm tired of billions of ?????? all over the place |
| 17:53.44 | Harlekin | kergoth: where did you that these info? |
| 17:53.53 | kergoth | Harlekin: google, found some japanese reviews of it |
| 17:53.57 | kergoth | Harlekin: + babelfish |
| 17:54.04 | Harlekin | ah |
| 17:55.17 | Harlekin | kergoth: dynamism has the mm1 too |
| 17:55.39 | kergoth | yeah, isnt it the h3w though? |
| 17:55.58 | Harlekin | says 1 ghz crusoe cpu |
| 17:56.06 | kergoth | hmm |
| 17:56.09 | Harlekin | Mebius PC-MTM-H1W |
| 17:56.13 | kergoth | ah |
| 17:56.15 | kergoth | how much $$? |
| 17:56.19 | Harlekin | Graphic / Video Features |
| 17:56.19 | Harlekin | Chip: |
| 17:56.20 | Harlekin | SMI Lynx 3DM + |
| 17:56.21 | Harlekin | hmm |
| 17:56.26 | Harlekin | is that working with linux? |
| 17:56.29 | kergoth | only 8mb video ram |
| 17:56.41 | Harlekin | only 1024x |
| 17:56.52 | kergoth | yeah, but its only a 10" screen too |
| 17:56.54 | kergoth | so not too bad |
| 17:57.04 | Harlekin | hmm |
| 17:57.08 | Harlekin | nearly double price |
| 17:57.46 | kergoth | hm |
| 17:57.51 | kergoth | whats the warranty on the dynamism one? |
| 17:57.55 | kergoth | conics is 12 months |
| 17:58.19 | Harlekin | no idea |
| 17:58.27 | Harlekin | but 1000 $ difference in price is strange |
| 17:58.35 | kergoth | yes |
| 17:58.39 | kergoth | but look at c700 |
| 17:58.44 | kergoth | conics charges 550 or whatever |
| 17:58.47 | Harlekin | the conics on is 860 mhz at conics |
| 17:58.48 | kergoth | dynamism 700 |
| 17:58.58 | kergoth | yeah, but 860->1000 shouldnt be $1000 |
| 17:58.59 | kergoth | hehe |
| 17:59.03 | kergoth | any other differences? |
| 17:59.07 | Harlekin | hm, should i buy one |
| 17:59.26 | ljp_work | hmmm |
| 17:59.33 | kergoth | if i had the money i'd buy the conics one. but i dont trust them much, you have to pay with paypal |
| 17:59.41 | kergoth | so im going to ask around in #zaurus, see if anyone bought the c700 from them |
| 17:59.44 | kergoth | see if they got it :) |
| 18:13.00 | kergoth | hm, the sony vaio transmeta units have a ati mobility radeon |
| 18:13.05 | kergoth | but they only have 6" screens |
| 18:13.06 | kergoth | bleh |
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| 18:13.27 | Harlekin | maybe the c700 is all i need |
| 18:13.31 | Harlekin | with a big cf card |
| 18:16.26 | kergoth | c700 is real nice, but its really too bad its B stepping |
| 18:16.36 | kergoth | myself, i need a portable development station |
| 18:20.59 | ljp_work | how about a mainframe with a remote mobile terminal? |
| 18:21.34 | kergoth | hehe |
| 18:24.27 | ljp_work | ok textedit++ |
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| 19:53.08 | clem | is there anybody involved in opie-login here? |
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| 21:13.47 | Carlson | Grr. Mantis' "Reopen bug" button puts Mozilla in an infinite login_page.php/logou_page.php loop. |
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| 21:15.29 | clem | you should open a Mantis bug then :) |
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| 21:57.00 | Freddie | hello everyone |
| 21:57.38 | Freddie | soemone mentioned yesterday or the day before something about <QPEApplication::hideOrQuit> |
| 21:57.49 | Freddie | I cannot seem to find any reference to it anywhere |
| 21:57.53 | Freddie | anyone know anything about it? |
| 22:12.29 | Freddie | nevermind |
| 22:12.33 | Freddie | I think I figured it out |
| 22:12.33 | Freddie | :) |
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| 22:46.51 | quaqo | bi all |
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| 23:28.24 | AndyQ | ping Harlekin |
| 23:28.28 | Harlekin | hey AndyQ |
| 23:28.35 | Harlekin | long not seen .-) |
| 23:28.37 | NonToxic | heya AndyQ |
| 23:28.46 | AndyQ | hey Harlekin: yeah - real life took over for a while |
| 23:28.51 | NonToxic | AndyQ: I have a sfcave bug for you :) |
| 23:29.00 | AndyQ | NonToxic: yeah? |
| 23:29.26 | NonToxic | AndyQ: in game.cpp in the sdl version, can you change the handle_keys stuff so that it will recognize SDLK_RETURN and SDLK_UP? |
| 23:29.39 | AndyQ | as move up? |
| 23:29.45 | NonToxic | yeah |
| 23:29.54 | kergoth | AndyQ: for ipaq users |
| 23:30.10 | AndyQ | np - will do as soon as I get chance to boot into linux again :) |
| 23:30.25 | AndyQ | does the ipaq handle keys differently then? |
| 23:30.53 | NonToxic | yeah, center is return instead |
| 23:30.58 | NonToxic | and up is easier to hit :) |
| 23:31.02 | AndyQ | ahhh - ok |
| 23:31.56 | NonToxic | thanks |
| 23:32.10 | AndyQ | np - hopefully I'll get time to do that soon |
| 23:32.36 | AndyQ | actually - fuck it - ill do it now while I have time :) |
| 23:32.43 | NonToxic | :) thanks |
| 23:32.59 | AndyQ | hmm - now lets see linux - how does that work again :) |
| 23:33.10 | NonToxic | hah |
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| 23:41.45 | AndyQ | hehe - just making the changes now :) |
| 23:56.50 | AndyQ | NonToxic: OK - I've made and committed the changes so that hopefully up, enter and return can be used to move the ship up |
| 23:57.07 | NonToxic | AndyQ: excellent, thanks |
| 23:57.27 | AndyQ | NonToxic: if that doesn't sort it (I don't have an ipaq to test on), please let me know - I can be found sometimes on #openembedded or botmailed) |
| 23:57.46 | AndyQ | np |
| 23:57.55 | AndyQ | just hope it works :) |
| 23:58.22 | NonToxic | it should work, I've changed it in my sourec :) |
| 23:59.08 | AndyQ | hehe - you should have committed your patch :) |
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