| 00:00.05 | clem | or is it built on it? |
| 00:00.08 | NonToxic | it is based on it |
| 00:00.14 | clem | ok thx |
| 00:00.30 | drw | Opie is a (superior) version of Qtopia ;) |
| 00:00.55 | Alazorn | drw (that is if it would ever work) |
| 00:01.01 | clem | *g* |
| 00:01.34 | kergoth | Alazorn: works wonderfully here, just not for you. |
| 00:01.47 | Alazorn | this will be my 8th reinstall of opie... soon Ill give up |
| 00:01.55 | drw | clem: I am not sure about the error, maybe someone else knows |
| 00:01.58 | Alazorn | kergoth: yes you stated that befofe :/) |
| 00:02.36 | drw | kergoth: works fine here too, but I have to say I am biased |
| 00:02.44 | clem | drw - ok thanks anyway |
| 00:03.10 | drw | bbl - food time |
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| 00:07.00 | NonToxic_ | boof! |
| 00:07.34 | NonToxic | did you get my uic-qt2 inquiry? |
| 00:08.30 | NonToxic | <NonToxic> grr, http://opie.net.wox.org/tools/ is down |
| 00:08.31 | NonToxic | <NonToxic> does anyone have the uic-qt2 and designer-qt2 apps? |
| 00:08.31 | NonToxic | <NonToxic> and am I about to ping off? heh |
| 00:09.00 | treke | NonToxic: what distro? |
| 00:09.21 | NonToxic | I use gentoo and don't feel like emerging qt2 |
| 00:09.36 | NonToxic | I just want the statically linked ones that were on opie.net.wox.org |
| 00:09.42 | treke | ah |
| 00:10.11 | treke | I'd grab you the debian binaries but those are 2.95 |
| 00:10.19 | NonToxic | hm? |
| 00:10.33 | NonToxic | if it's static, then it shouldn't matter... |
| 00:10.37 | treke | it isnt |
| 00:10.48 | NonToxic | oh |
| 00:10.55 | NonToxic | and google managed to cache it, heh |
| 00:11.04 | NonToxic | http://216.239.33.100/search?q=cache:zD-ME3oHXSwC:opie.net.wox.org/tools/uic-qt2+uic-qt2&hl=en&ie=UTF-8 |
| 00:11.59 | NonToxic | awww |
| 00:12.07 | NonToxic | lotsa & and "age |
| 00:30.55 | srd | is it possible to get hancom office running on the ipaq? |
| 00:31.01 | srd | or something more robust that write? |
| 00:31.12 | NonToxic | srd: yes, but it's illegal unless you buy it. |
| 00:31.22 | Alazorn | srd: emacs would be dope |
| 00:31.27 | srd | is it purchasable? |
| 00:31.44 | srd | i try to shy away from illegality |
| 00:31.54 | Alazorn | lol |
| 00:32.08 | NonToxic | might be |
| 00:32.26 | srd | hm, i'll go have a look-see |
| 00:32.39 | NonToxic | http://handhelds.org/pipermail/opie/2002-October/003046.html |
| 00:32.56 | Alazorn | NonToxic: is emacs ported to familiar? |
| 00:33.14 | NonToxic | Alazorn: it shouldn't require any porting work except for the "it's freaking massive" problem |
| 00:33.16 | kergoth | s/ported to familiar/compiled for ARM/; |
| 00:33.18 | NonToxic | just compile it |
| 00:33.23 | NonToxic | yeah |
| 00:33.23 | treke | Alazorn: your not going to fit emacs on an ipaq |
| 00:33.35 | kergoth | use uemacs if you need something |
| 00:33.37 | Alazorn | aha didnt know :) |
| 00:33.39 | kergoth | or vim ;) |
| 00:33.47 | srd | NonToxic: so even if I find it - i cant use it on the ipaq (even illegaly?) |
| 00:33.55 | NonToxic | or jove |
| 00:33.56 | Alazorn | vim I heard many good things about... |
| 00:34.01 | NonToxic | srd: you can use it on the paq |
| 00:34.04 | srd | im not opposed to using it now, and paying when available.. |
| 00:34.05 | NonToxic | try jove |
| 00:34.17 | treke | srd: You cant get hancom for the ipaq legally |
| 00:34.28 | treke | and we arent interested in helping you obtain it illegally |
| 00:34.33 | Alazorn | NonToxic: thanks for the tip :) |
| 00:34.38 | srd | im not goign to ask how to |
| 00:34.56 | treke | srd: Its not likely to be sold for ipaq, ever |
| 00:34.56 | NonToxic | Alazorn np |
| 00:35.05 | Alazorn | time to try to install opie-mediaplayer2 |
| 00:35.22 | kergoth | yeah hancom seem to go for the OEM route, included with sold products, not individual sales |
| 00:35.39 | NonToxic | grrrrrrrr.... |
| 00:35.51 | treke | lat I heard, hancom was going the out of business route :) |
| 00:35.58 | kergoth | treke: good point |
| 00:36.16 | NonToxic | I remember a comment on /. about mandrake filing for the french equiv of Chapter 11 |
| 00:36.20 | kergoth | NonToxic: heh, /me looks at the oz buildroot which downloads and builds uic and moc of its own accord when needed ;) |
| 00:36.39 | NonToxic | and how it was going to be taken over by a nonprofit organization |
| 00:36.49 | NonToxic | "Well, it seems they're pretty non-profit already." |
| 00:40.46 | Alazorn | where can I find libxine.so.1 ? it is needed for opie-player2 |
| 00:41.00 | treke | opie-mediaplayer-codecs |
| 00:41.01 | kergoth | in the mediaplayer codecs package |
| 00:41.11 | Alazorn | ok thanks :) |
| 00:41.33 | Alazorn | it is very exciting now.... ipkg didnt give me segmentation fault :) |
| 00:43.16 | drs | I just upload my app to 'zaurus software index'. It's time to start another medical app... :) |
| 00:43.16 | Alazorn | woohoo my iPAQ is playing mp3s :) |
| 00:44.51 | Alazorn | woot :) it works without segmentation fault wounderfull |
| 00:45.02 | NonToxic | congratulations Alazorn! |
| 00:45.07 | kergoth | Alazorn: congrats |
| 00:45.39 | kergoth | Alazorn: 8th time's the charm? ;) |
| 00:45.44 | Alazorn | it was theKompany and the fact that kernel-modules wasnt correctly installed that generated all the segmentation faults :) |
| 00:45.49 | Alazorn | heh |
| 00:46.15 | NonToxic | wheee |
| 00:46.18 | NonToxic | qt has built on the desktop |
| 00:46.19 | NonToxic | well |
| 00:46.20 | NonToxic | mostly |
| 00:46.29 | Alazorn | well people it is an honour to have gotten this far... I would like to thank my mom,, wrg sa.d w etc etc |
| 00:46.31 | NonToxic | libqt has |
| 00:46.36 | NonToxic | and that's important |
| 00:48.56 | srd | im trying to install konqueror to the ramfs... |
| 00:49.00 | Alazorn | is it this feed I need for transparent menues opie-deco-liquid ? |
| 00:49.02 | srd | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:49.07 | srd | what is wrong witht tha as the command? |
| 00:49.20 | drw | Alazorn: yes |
| 00:49.21 | treke | opie-style-liquid |
| 00:49.35 | drw | oh, deco is the titlebar, right? |
| 00:49.40 | Alazorn | aha |
| 00:49.40 | treke | es |
| 00:51.33 | srd | what feed has opie-style-liquid |
| 00:52.21 | treke | the opie feed does |
| 00:52.32 | drw | http://opie.handhelds.org/feed/ipaq/unstable/ |
| 00:53.07 | srd | hm, i dont think thats it.. unless i have the wrong package name |
| 00:54.17 | drw | opie-liquid |
| 00:54.20 | Alazorn | what is Kate? |
| 00:54.29 | treke | a text editor |
| 00:54.51 | Alazorn | aha |
| 00:55.00 | drw | hmmm...probably should be opie-style-liquid |
| 00:56.16 | Alazorn | ah well I need to sleep now... thanks for the help and see ya :) |
| 00:57.40 | drw | ljp: ping |
| 00:58.19 | ljp | pong |
| 00:58.44 | drw | just was wondering if anything is happening w/the website? |
| 00:58.54 | ljp | oh.. hmmm |
| 00:59.03 | drw | i remember someone mentioned setting up a php-nuke thing or something |
| 00:59.03 | ljp | you wanna add something? |
| 00:59.14 | treke | even bipolar_away kept it more up to date :) |
| 00:59.15 | ljp | oh that guy. hmm, ya. |
| 00:59.18 | kergoth | god the phpnuke code is horrible |
| 00:59.41 | ljp | whats there to update? |
| 00:59.42 | drw | I would be willing to help update it some |
| 01:00.06 | kergoth | opie needs a new site |
| 01:00.07 | drw | I was thinking about writing some developer docs |
| 01:00.08 | ljp | you want to be able to add news? |
| 01:00.28 | kergoth | something php driven, but not phpnuke, there are a quadrillion phpnuke sites out there, and they all fucking look the same |
| 01:00.42 | drw | kergoth: true |
| 01:00.48 | ljp | whats wrong with what we have? |
| 01:01.12 | kergoth | what we have is a static pile of crap |
| 01:01.16 | kergoth | formed into nice shapes |
| 01:01.17 | drw | there's a lot in wiki, but it is hard to find, out-of-date |
| 01:01.18 | kergoth | but its still crap |
| 01:01.39 | ljp | :) |
| 01:01.41 | kergoth | ibot: crap in nice shapes is still crap |
| 01:01.42 | | kergoth: please, watch your language. |
| 01:01.42 | ljp | not static |
| 01:01.45 | kergoth | bah |
| 01:02.02 | kergoth | the news page doesnt count, and a wiki doesnt count as dynamic, its static content held in a database |
| 01:02.02 | ljp | you can add news if you have any |
| 01:02.07 | ljp | hmm |
| 01:02.39 | kergoth | go look at openzaurus.org for a good example, then find someone to do something similiar. I suspect noda's too busy to take on another site design |
| 01:03.10 | treke | ibot lart ljp |
| 01:03.12 | kergoth | ibot: kill ljp |
| 01:03.14 | | ACTION slits ljp's throat |
| 01:03.14 | ljp | :) |
| 01:03.34 | drw | feel the love! |
| 01:03.40 | kergoth | ibot: lart ljp |
| 01:03.42 | treke | hopefully ljp is a better webdesigner than he is a musician |
| 01:03.47 | kergoth | hah |
| 01:04.00 | ljp | hmm |
| 01:04.31 | drw | treke: careful, he'll smash his empty rum bottle over your head |
| 01:04.36 | kergoth | lol |
| 01:04.51 | treke | with any luck hes too drunk to do any damage by now |
| 01:06.41 | treke | oh shit |
| 01:07.16 | ljp | dont worry, its a 4.10 |
| 01:10.28 | drw | well, I just meant to offer some to help w/the website if needed, didn't mean to start WW3... |
| 01:10.56 | NonToxic | distcc > * |
| 01:11.26 | NonToxic | oops. qws is getting compiled on the slow box |
| 01:13.22 | ljp | drw: you know php? |
| 01:13.47 | NonToxic | does anyone know how to get opie to use the themes built into qt/e? |
| 01:13.59 | drw | ljp: yes |
| 01:14.22 | drw | that's what I did opie-look in |
| 01:17.10 | ljp | sure, what do you want to do |
| 01:17.33 | ljp | I'd have to get nick to give you permissions, I think |
| 01:19.20 | drw | A couple things I wanted to get done were a FAQ, developer docs. I can help with news updates if you want, 1.0 progress stuff |
| 01:19.42 | drw | I don't know, just throwing out some ideas |
| 01:19.50 | ljp | sure.. :) |
| 01:20.49 | drw | I think the look of the site is fine, just kind of hard to find stuff in Wiki, especially for newer people not familiar with it |
| 01:23.10 | drw | For the developer docs, I want to have Opie app UI guidelines, libopie reference since things seem to be settling down some now |
| 01:24.08 | drw | This weekend I can start putting some stuff together and see where it goes |
| 01:25.29 | ljp | ok, sounds great |
| 01:26.15 | drw | If you have other ideas, let me know |
| 01:26.42 | ljp | ok, I'll give it some thought |
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| 01:28.02 | drw | well, I have to run...later |
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| 01:38.42 | NonToxic | Feb 7 09:22:51 familiar user.notice root: libpng warning: Application was compiled with png.h from libpng-1.0.12 |
| 01:38.43 | NonToxic | Feb 7 09:22:51 familiar user.notice root: libpng warning: Application is running with png.c from libpng-1.2.1 |
| 01:38.43 | NonToxic | Feb 7 09:22:51 familiar user.notice root: libpng error: Incompatible libpng version in application and library |
| 01:38.45 | NonToxic | >.< |
| 02:03.08 | NonToxic | grr. my new compile of qt/e is crashing in QGList::append() |
| 02:03.10 | NonToxic | anyone know why? |
| 02:09.54 | ljp | for that png thing, apply the qte patch for the makefile, or edit it so it uses the systems png headers, not qts headers |
| 02:10.39 | NonToxic | eh |
| 02:10.49 | NonToxic | I set it to use qt's libpng |
| 02:10.49 | NonToxic | :) |
| 02:10.51 | ljp | for whatever reason, qy still uses its own png headers ever for --use-system-png |
| 02:11.46 | NonToxic | yeah |
| 02:11.49 | ljp | but that wouldnt effect QGlist I think |
| 02:11.51 | NonToxic | so I'm using qt's png |
| 02:11.51 | NonToxic | heh |
| 02:12.37 | ljp | whats it linking too? |
| 02:12.48 | NonToxic | the -qt-png |
| 02:15.54 | NonToxic | flash is slow :( |
| 02:18.10 | ljp | yupper |
| 02:18.29 | ljp | liquor is quicker |
| 02:19.01 | NonToxic | still segving |
| 03:16.24 | srd | why is that when I install konqueror to ram, it isnt there when I reboot? |
| 03:16.28 | srd | does rebooting clear my ram? |
| 03:16.42 | srd | rebooting, as in a soft-reset |
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| 03:38.41 | NonToxic | you need to set up an nvrd for wince-like behavior... |
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| 15:17.46 | zecke | bipolar_home: hi |
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| 16:09.05 | bipolar | zecke: I brought my Zaurus today :) |
| 16:17.16 | zecke | bipolar: nice |
| 16:17.24 | zecke | bipolar: OpenZaurus or original rom? |
| 16:18.06 | bipolar | zecke: OpenZaurus.... But it needs an upgrade to the latest. I'l do that while I compile kitchensync |
| 16:18.27 | zecke | bipolar: I'm doing a source package with upgraded kde versions |
| 16:18.45 | bipolar | zecke: very cool. That will make it simpile |
| 16:18.51 | zecke | bipolar: so you can be the test monkey for that too |
| 16:20.26 | zecke | let's see if it compiles |
| 16:20.46 | bipolar | zecke: cool.. wheres the tarball? :) |
| 16:21.28 | zecke | I'm currently creating it |
| 16:21.33 | bipolar | k |
| 16:21.34 | zecke | I've to fix some Makefile.am though |
| 16:21.41 | zecke | I'll put it onto hh.org |
| 16:22.07 | bipolar | damnit... now usbnet wont come up |
| 16:22.15 | bipolar | hahahaha |
| 16:22.22 | bipolar | i'm such a moron |
| 16:23.50 | bipolar | I was ssh'd into my box at home and wondering why usb0 would not come up when I pluged in my Z here.... hahaha |
| 16:52.58 | zecke | damn creating a package sucks |
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| 17:14.11 | bipolar | zecke: ready when you are. :) |
| 17:15.54 | treke | hehe |
| 17:18.19 | bipolar | hmmm.... I'm doing a full upgrade from rc2 to testing feed from inside of aqpkg and it has not crashed yet. I'm impressed. |
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| 17:50.24 | zecke | bipolar: I'm still there... |
| 17:50.39 | zecke | getting that sucker to build properly is not that easily |
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| 18:39.44 | zecke | bipolar: I'm getting there |
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| 18:50.26 | srd | what is the command to start opie? |
| 18:50.35 | srd | I did an ipkg install task-opie-complete |
| 18:50.36 | NonToxic | /etc/init.d/opie start |
| 18:50.52 | srd | hm, no such file or dir |
| 18:50.56 | srd | oh |
| 18:50.58 | srd | i remember |
| 18:51.16 | srd | ipkg install opie-taskbar - which task-complete doesnt install... |
| 18:58.01 | bipolar | zecke: hows it going? :) |
| 18:58.36 | zecke | pretty much done |
| 18:59.18 | bipolar | ooohhhhhhh.... |
| 19:00.46 | zecke | bipolar: this package includes kaddressbook, korganizer and kitchensync and needed libs |
| 19:01.24 | NonToxic | whoah ksync is out? |
| 19:01.28 | bipolar | zecke: Interesting.... so it requires changes to the pim apps? |
| 19:04.29 | zecke | bipolar: libkabc was changed in HEAD and it's not binary compatible to 3.1 |
| 19:04.37 | zecke | bipolar: libkabc changed too |
| 19:04.43 | zecke | so you would be able to sync |
| 19:04.53 | zecke | but not to run KDE applications to see the data |
| 19:05.21 | zecke | and for a later feature in KitchenSync I added some stuff to libkabc |
| 19:05.49 | bipolar | zecke: ok... so I can run 3.1 and these newer apps/libs and there will be no problems, right? |
| 19:06.23 | zecke | bipolar: yes thats how it should be |
| 19:06.32 | bipolar | zecke: awesome. :) |
| 19:06.45 | zecke | bipolar: knotes might need recompiling. do you use it? |
| 19:06.47 | bipolar | zecke: let me know when it's ready. :) |
| 19:06.57 | bipolar | zecke: knotes = stickynotes? |
| 19:07.04 | zecke | yes |
| 19:07.23 | bipolar | zecke: no, I don't use it, but I can test it as soon as it hits debain sid. :) |
| 19:07.31 | zecke | :) |
| 19:07.43 | bipolar | zecke: what dist do you use? |
| 19:07.43 | zecke | ah and you need kde developer packages installed |
| 19:07.47 | zecke | sid |
| 19:08.09 | bipolar | zecke: cool... i've got sid too. :) |
| 19:10.56 | zecke | kitchensync does build too |
| 19:11.02 | zecke | now it's compiling korganizer |
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| 19:12.01 | bipolar | zecke: are you planning on submitting the package to sid? |
| 19:13.46 | zecke | bipolar: my kde3 is self compiled and self containing(almost) |
| 19:14.08 | bipolar | zecke: hmmm.... perhaps we should talk to calc in #debain-kde and ask about that. |
| 19:14.33 | zecke | bipolar: first we should test it and make it useful for a broader audience |
| 19:14.45 | bipolar | zecke: sounds good |
| 19:15.20 | zecke | my plan is to make it really usable until Sunday evening |
| 19:16.28 | zecke | damn kalarmd is missing :( |
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| 19:22.36 | NonToxic | hey Harlekin_iPAQ |
| 19:22.38 | Harlekin_iPAQ | zecke: bt reaches pretty far |
| 19:22.41 | NonToxic | have a microkbd? |
| 19:23.02 | Harlekin_iPAQ | nontoxic hi. and no |
| 19:23.06 | NonToxic | ah. |
| 19:24.33 | srd | hm.. opie login comes up.. and when I try to sign in.. it goes the starting screen.. that exits back to login, with no errors |
| 19:24.37 | zecke | Harlekin_iPAQ: bnep +10 meter? |
| 19:24.55 | zecke | Harlekin_iPAQ: mir kribbelt es unter den Fingern den die bluetooth lib zu schreiben |
| 19:25.31 | zecke | who is trading a Drainage-Bag( I got plenty of them ) against a Palm Tungsten? |
| 19:25.44 | Harlekin_iPAQ | 10m hier |
| 19:25.51 | Harlekin_iPAQ | 2 etagen |
| 19:25.55 | zecke | Harlekin_iPAQ: through walls |
| 19:26.00 | zecke | nice |
| 19:26.24 | zecke | Harlekin_iPAQ: why is bnep reaching further than sdp queries? |
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| 19:27.16 | Harlekin_iPAQ | maybe old walls |
| 19:27.31 | zecke | :) |
| 19:27.40 | zecke | hoch wasser gespuelt |
| 19:28.03 | Harlekin_iPAQ | bin nu 2 stockwerke tiefer |
| 19:28.22 | zecke | Harlekin_iPAQ: alsmost at the Downtown of Passau |
| 19:30.50 | zecke | NonToxic: TV, Radio? |
| 19:31.12 | NonToxic | zecke: guitar? :) |
| 19:31.32 | zecke | NonToxic: only amateurs need such a beast... |
| 19:32.02 | NonToxic | eh. basically I'm going to see if I can end up writing a musician's swiss army knife for the ipaq... |
| 19:32.11 | NonToxic | metronome, tuner, scale/chord generator, etc |
| 19:32.24 | Harlekin | und now the laptop ( master ) suspended .-) |
| 19:32.35 | Harlekin | zecke: its nice |
| 19:32.38 | NonToxic | heh |
| 19:32.46 | NonToxic | ah, got a new keyboard I see. |
| 19:32.59 | Harlekin | actually i just took the one form my router |
| 19:33.04 | NonToxic | ah. |
| 19:33.13 | NonToxic | routers should be headless :) |
| 19:33.33 | zecke | Harlekin: what bt, Passau, Tuner or your cat? ;) |
| 19:34.10 | zecke | mine got 3x ethernet, power and the sharp serial cable |
| 19:34.21 | Harlekin | zecke: ? |
| 19:34.26 | zecke | 20:32 < Harlekin> zecke: its nice |
| 19:34.31 | Harlekin | zecke: pan |
| 19:34.37 | Harlekin | very easy to set up |
| 19:34.43 | zecke | Harlekin: using blueZ? |
| 19:34.45 | Harlekin | yes |
| 19:34.47 | Harlekin | 2 lines |
| 19:35.04 | NonToxic | I had a bluetooth/CF sleeve... |
| 19:35.11 | NonToxic | I ended up burning it up with pskey, heh |
| 19:35.17 | zecke | :( |
| 19:35.30 | zecke | I've a pskeyed iPAQ 3870... |
| 19:35.44 | zecke | I've to fuck up the mmc port to get a new one ( Harlekin ;) ) |
| 19:36.04 | bipolar | I think I should downgrade to the offical kde 3.1 packages before I try to get kitchensync to work. I'm using HEAD packages now. |
| 19:36.07 | kergoth | that reminds me, need to add BlueZ to the OZ/OE buildroot |
| 19:36.24 | zecke | hi kergoth |
| 19:36.41 | zecke | kergoth: me and Max are going to support Affix and BlueZ |
| 19:36.51 | Harlekin | zecke: you can chnge it back |
| 19:37.01 | zecke | Harlekin: I'm scared to do so |
| 19:37.21 | bipolar | zecke: what do you think about that? Should I downgrade to make a proper test of it? |
| 19:37.39 | kergoth | treke: howd the gcc3 build go? |
| 19:37.51 | NonToxic | hrrrrm |
| 19:37.56 | zecke | no then I can blame your packages if something goes wrong :) |
| 19:38.01 | NonToxic | I seem to be running a little low on battery |
| 19:38.02 | bipolar | akk! |
| 19:38.03 | bipolar | :) |
| 19:38.15 | zecke | bipolar: seriously it shouldn't matter much |
| 19:38.24 | kergoth | treke: I was giving some thought this morning to how to handle both gcc2 and gcc3 built c++ apps in the same feed |
| 19:39.06 | kergoth | treke: shouldnt be too bad, except that we'd have to be careful to ensure the gcc3 version of the c++ libs dont Replaces the nongcc3 versions, or it'll replace them on upgrade.. we want it to be manual |
| 19:39.38 | bipolar | zecke: you're probbly right, but I have to do it sometime |
| 19:40.01 | kergoth | picture libqt2-emb.gcc3, which the gcc3 built versions of the apps Depends on... |
| 19:41.01 | NonToxic | hmm |
| 19:41.05 | zecke | RMS was in Paris and I wasn't there :( |
| 19:41.07 | NonToxic | does ftime() take any args? |
| 19:41.33 | kergoth | NonToxic: man 3 ftime |
| 19:41.34 | zecke | NonToxic: sure |
| 19:41.44 | NonToxic | kergoth: no man pages here |
| 19:41.47 | zecke | NonToxic: a timeb* |
| 19:41.55 | NonToxic | ah yes |
| 19:42.01 | zecke | ah system without manpages.... |
| 19:42.10 | kergoth | NonToxic: apt-get install manpages-dev :) |
| 19:42.45 | NonToxic | kergoth: I don't have a whole lot of space, this is familiar |
| 19:42.53 | kergoth | ah, native build |
| 19:43.06 | zecke | nice |
| 19:43.34 | NonToxic | yep |
| 19:43.48 | NonToxic | I'm IRCing on here too, sshed into the router |
| 19:44.06 | kergoth | hm, i bet ircing from my c700 using irssi would rock |
| 19:44.54 | NonToxic | c700? |
| 19:44.56 | zecke | kergoth: /kick kergoth /ban kergoth :) |
| 19:45.00 | kergoth | :P |
| 19:45.05 | kergoth | ibot: c700 |
| 19:45.10 | | rumour has it, c700 is http://zaurus.kruss.com/files/zaurus2003/, or http://www.dynamism.com/zaurus/ |
| 19:45.13 | zecke | kergoth: is it a nice device? |
| 19:45.13 | NonToxic | toshiba device? |
| 19:45.15 | NonToxic | oh |
| 19:45.23 | NonToxic | is it the 640x480 one? |
| 19:45.27 | kergoth | zecke: very, but the qtopia app and launcher start time is horrendous |
| 19:45.35 | kergoth | zecke:its just begging for prelink |
| 19:45.38 | kergoth | NonToxic: yeah |
| 19:46.00 | NonToxic | how's battery on it? |
| 19:46.16 | kergoth | 3-4 hours of regular use according to lorddavon |
| 19:46.20 | kergoth | it only has a 950maH battery |
| 19:46.36 | kergoth | though you can hack the b500 1800maH battery into it without much work, numerous japanese pages on doing so |
| 19:46.49 | NonToxic | nodnod |
| 19:47.01 | NonToxic | I want to see if I can get a 3800 battery into my 3700. |
| 19:47.10 | zecke | kergoth: is it a strongArm? |
| 19:47.14 | NonToxic | don't think it's going to be possible due to the way they're handled tho |
| 19:47.27 | kergoth | zecke: pxa250, rev b somethingorother. its not c0/pxa255 |
| 19:47.43 | NonToxic | ah, and is there a prelinkable opie feed yet? |
| 19:47.57 | kergoth | heh, you need a lot more than just opie, every lib needs to be prelinkable |
| 19:47.57 | zecke | kergoth: there is a 255? I only knew the 260 |
| 19:48.03 | kergoth | is familiar built with new binutils? |
| 19:48.18 | kergoth | zecke: er yeah, whatever they renamed the c0 stepping to |
| 19:48.23 | kergoth | its not that :) |
| 19:48.46 | zecke | kergoth: pb_ got some code to execute faster on a pxa than on strongArm |
| 19:48.56 | kergoth | cool |
| 19:48.59 | zecke | kergoth: he also enabled the fast mode in the bootldr |
| 19:49.04 | kergoth | good |
| 19:49.36 | zecke | kergoth: pb_ just rocks |
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| 19:51.27 | zecke | bipolar: almost there |
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| 19:52.57 | kergoth | zecke: yea he does, he gave me the correct xscale optimiation flags the other day, so the c700 OZ feed is optimized now |
| 19:53.24 | zecke | :) |
| 19:53.40 | zecke | kergoth: there were some benchmarking results on fam-ml a while back |
| 19:54.31 | zecke | bipolar: do you use gantt from korg? |
| 19:54.57 | bipolar | zecke: huh? |
| 19:55.07 | zecke | bipolar: project planing |
| 19:55.13 | bipolar | zecke: I've not used korg at all. Theres no point if I can't sync it. :) |
| 19:56.30 | NonToxic | oooops. |
| 19:56.31 | NonToxic | out of power. |
| 19:56.43 | zecke | :( |
| 19:57.01 | NonToxic | it's still quite nice |
| 19:57.09 | zecke | bipolar: that sucker built |
| 19:58.04 | zecke | now tarring it up |
| 19:58.09 | bipolar | zecke: do you by chance know where debain holds the package scripts for installed packages? |
| 19:58.47 | clem | drw - I succeeded to solve my linking problem! (it was: undefined reference to `QPEApplication::QPEApplication(int &, char **, QApplication::Type)') |
| 19:59.04 | zecke | no |
| 19:59.16 | clem | drw - I needed to add -lqpe to my .pro project file... |
| 20:00.15 | zecke | bipolar: I'm uploading it to hh.org now |
| 20:01.27 | bipolar | cool.... |
| 20:01.32 | NonToxic | coool. |
| 20:01.40 | NonToxic | I am now measuring oscillation time accurately. |
| 20:08.51 | zecke | bipolar: www.handhelds.org/~zecke/kitchensync_alpha0.tar.bz2 |
| 20:09.26 | zecke | Harlekin: did you commit the datebook.cpp fix? |
| 20:10.06 | Harlekin | ups |
| 20:10.09 | Harlekin | ill do right now |
| 20:11.20 | bipolar | zecke: whats the datebook.cpp fix? |
| 20:12.01 | zecke | bipolar: a small compile fix |
| 20:12.11 | Harlekin | in |
| 20:14.42 | zecke | bipolar: read www.handhelds.org/~zecke/kitchensync.html |
| 20:14.50 | zecke | before starting the application first |
| 20:14.58 | zecke | bipolar: tell me when you're done with installing |
| 20:15.50 | zecke | I'm going to add Qtopia1.5 support now |
| 20:15.54 | bipolar | zecke: ok.... I'll get it running. |
| 20:17.02 | NonToxic | hopefully later today I will be able to write an OPIE front end. |
| 20:22.34 | zecke | aye aye my Z completely drained out |
| 20:23.46 | Harlekin | NonToxic: for what? |
| 20:23.59 | NonToxic | Harlekin: I'm writing a musical instrument tuner |
| 20:24.04 | Harlekin | hehe |
| 20:24.25 | NonToxic | grrrr |
| 20:24.33 | NonToxic | for some reason, 'samples' is getting reset to 0 for no real reason |
| 20:25.56 | NonToxic | sweeeeeeeet |
| 20:26.45 | zecke | Harlekin: http://www.liniso.de/tde/ |
| 20:26.55 | zecke | NonToxic: shadowing a global variable? |
| 20:27.02 | zecke | Harlekin: read the entry of Jan 23rd |
| 20:27.56 | zecke | bipolar: build with --enable-debug please |
| 20:28.23 | NonToxic | zecke: no, I just forgot to increment it :) |
| 20:28.34 | NonToxic | ...oops. sigfpe. |
| 20:28.37 | bipolar | zecke: yeah |
| 20:32.26 | NonToxic | NIIIIIIICE |
| 20:32.29 | NonToxic | it works reliably |
| 20:32.48 | NonToxic | I just brought it up to the piano, played an A, and it's 400 samples apart. |
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| 20:43.30 | zecke | hi Dilb |
| 20:43.51 | treke | hey zecke |
| 20:44.33 | zecke | hi treke |
| 20:44.52 | zecke | treke: todolist looks really appealing to my eyes |
| 20:45.04 | treke | yeah. drw did a great job |
| 20:45.13 | zecke | yes he did |
| 20:45.47 | zecke | and the code doesn't suck too |
| 20:46.53 | Dilb_d-9 | hi |
| 20:46.57 | Dilb_d-9 | hi zecke |
| 20:47.06 | zecke | _d-9? |
| 20:47.16 | Dilb_d-9 | before leaving this network |
| 20:47.58 | treke | days before leaving? |
| 20:48.02 | Dilb_d-9 | yes |
| 20:53.07 | zecke | Dilb_d-9: how are you? |
| 20:54.00 | Dilb_d-9 | zecke: fine, finally the week-end, some time to finish to update xine-lib, and you, in a better state ? |
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| 21:02.50 | _MAX_ | hi all |
| 21:03.21 | Harlekin | hi _MAX_ |
| 21:03.28 | Harlekin | _MAX_: wie ist der wellenreiter status |
| 21:04.14 | _MAX_ | Harlekin: At the moment it looks better, cisco, lucent, wlan-ng und hostap schould work tomorrow. |
| 21:04.20 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:04.30 | _MAX_ | Harlekin: no ugly system calls for the interfaces settings |
| 21:04.43 | treke | good to see Harlekin's space key works again |
| 21:05.02 | _MAX_ | Harlekin: what your working on? |
| 21:05.45 | Harlekin | treke: hehe |
| 21:06.49 | kergoth | hmm |
| 21:06.53 | kergoth | make[4]: *** No rule to make target `../elf/stamp.os', needed by `../libc_pic.a'. Stop. |
| 21:06.57 | kergoth | odd |
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| 21:23.40 | bipolar | zecke: can you give me that link to kitchensync again please? |
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| 21:26.27 | bipolar | anyone have that link? |
| 21:26.42 | bipolar | It might be in your history if youve been here a while :) |
| 21:29.39 | bipolar | Help! Please! :-) |
| 21:30.06 | Harlekin | his hh.org hp |
| 21:30.26 | bipolar | Harlekin: I looked.... I did not see a link to the download :\ |
| 21:31.14 | bipolar | zecke: wakeup! heh |
| 21:33.34 | Harlekin | http://handhelds.org/~zecke/kitchensync.html |
| 21:34.07 | _MAX_ | did someone successfully sync with evolution? |
| 21:34.14 | bipolar | Harlekin: he gave me a link to a tarball. |
| 21:34.18 | Harlekin | _MAX_: not implemented yet |
| 21:34.30 | Harlekin | bipolar: go to ibots homepage an browse the logs |
| 21:34.45 | bipolar | Harlekin: ooooh.... cool! I thought there might be logs |
| 21:35.28 | bipolar | ibot: logs? |
| 21:35.29 | | http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/, or stats http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz |
| 21:35.59 | zecke | bipolar: http://www.handhelds.org/~zecke/kitchensync_alpha0.tar.bz2 |
| 21:36.04 | bipolar | hehehe |
| 21:36.12 | bipolar | zecke: thanks! |
| 21:36.22 | zecke | _MAX_: yes I did ( not addressbook though ) |
| 21:36.31 | zecke | _MAX_: you need to make sure the wombat isn't running |
| 21:41.00 | zecke | bipolar: good nite and see the query for instructions |
| 21:44.38 | Harlekin | zecke: static? |
| 21:45.55 | zecke | Harlekin: static what? |
| 21:46.52 | Harlekin | build |
| 21:47.14 | zecke | Harlekin: src code |
| 21:47.23 | Harlekin | ah |
| 21:47.46 | zecke | but my 'Darm' is hurting quite a lot |
| 21:47.48 | zecke | cya all |
| 21:47.58 | _MAX_ | zecke: what tool you use? |
| 21:48.24 | zecke | _MAX_: KitchenSync |
| 21:48.36 | zecke | _MAX_: there some issues though |
| 21:48.58 | lsmith | zecke: abi went well? |
| 21:49.14 | zecke | lsmith: I missed that. I spent the time in hospital |
| 21:49.25 | lsmith | oh fuck |
| 21:49.25 | zecke | lsmith: I can make it up until April. |
| 21:50.25 | lsmith | my next question was how is opie pim coming along :-) |
| 21:51.06 | bipolar | zecke: thank you |
| 21:52.34 | zecke | lsmith: Stefan Eilers is continuing the XML indexxing |
| 21:52.49 | zecke | lsmith: I'm taking care of syncing and then I'll take care of todolist again |
| 21:53.34 | _MAX_ | zecke: what is the prob with the phonebook? |
| 21:53.40 | lsmith | what is the current eta for opie 1.0? |
| 21:53.53 | zecke | _MAX_: I can read it but not write it |
| 21:54.01 | lsmith | i wanna use my zaurus for more then just playing ogg's :-) |
| 21:54.08 | zecke | _MAX_: I didn't want to write a vCard2.1 writer |
| 21:55.14 | _MAX_ | zecke: why not able to write? |
| 21:55.27 | Dilb_d-9 | lsmith: you can play videos too |
| 21:55.57 | kergoth | zecke: going to fix the broken todo syncing with qtopia desktop / intellisync? |
| 21:56.11 | zecke | _MAX_: the problems you'll see with syncing with evolution are: TimeZones might be off if you've no korganizer installed and configured. Evolution will warn you when editing an added Incidence an when wombat was running during sync you're lost :) |
| 21:56.23 | zecke | kergoth: I'll fix the IntelliSync case for sure |
| 21:56.45 | zecke | kergoth: I've to search the win2k recovery cd for my laptop though to test it... |
| 21:57.03 | _MAX_ | so what pim / phonebook works with zaurus seamlessly? |
| 21:57.11 | zecke | _MAX_: evo is storing addresses in db3 |
| 21:57.19 | zecke | _MAX_: KDE stuff works best |
| 21:57.20 | bipolar | zecke: I got a compile errror..... |
| 21:57.35 | zecke | bipolar: paste it in the query |
| 21:58.02 | kergoth | zecke: cool |
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| 23:34.18 | sunfriez | sri crisna 1846 |
| 23:34.28 | sunfriez | the holy goast |
| 23:34.33 | treke | Dilb_d-8: the day isnt over yet |
| 23:34.44 | Dilb_d-8 | here it is |
| 23:34.52 | treke | Dilb_d-8: that doesnt count |
| 23:35.46 | Dilb_d-8 | I live in CET, so I use CET |
| 23:36.02 | treke | you should be using ST |
| 23:36.03 | Dilb_d-8 | and btw, I don't want to argue on that, I don't care enough to |
| 23:36.04 | treke | pST |
| 23:37.14 | sunfriez | of the 5 deaties the 14 bridges of the sole and the 7 bridges of mater |
| 23:37.57 | Harlekin | treke: only the real time counts |
| 23:38.07 | Harlekin | time is made there where the old civilized cultures are |
| 23:38.36 | Dilb_d-8 | s/old// |
| 23:38.52 | Harlekin | Dilb_d-8: old europe |
| 23:39.03 | Harlekin | long tradition |
| 23:39.25 | sunfriez | I drank of the chalace |
| 23:42.23 | treke | you drank of something |
| 23:42.34 | sunfriez | yes |
| 23:43.07 | sunfriez | love the father the mother ,fire,the holy goast |
| 23:44.20 | sunfriez | the holy goast says I am him |
| 23:51.03 | sunfriez | a last I know who I am |
| 23:51.46 | sunfriez | at last |
| 23:52.48 | sunfriez | I am here because the mother is in the father and the father is in the mother |
| 23:53.35 | *** mode/#opie [+v sunfriez] by ChanServ |
| 23:54.08 | Dilb_d-8 | hmmm, I think I will update once more my ignore-list before leaving this network |
| 23:54.16 | Harlekin | .-) |
| 23:54.19 | treke | hehe |
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| 23:54.36 | treke | isn opn great? |
| 23:54.39 | sunfriez | :) |
| 23:54.46 | Harlekin | hi Dilb_d-8 |
| 23:54.48 | Harlekin | hi dwmw2 |
| 23:54.56 | Dilb_d-8 | treke: this is freebla now :þ |
| 23:55.12 | Dilb_d-8 | opn is dead, opn is for sale on ebay |
| 23:55.16 | treke | Dilb_d-8: oh yeah. |
| 23:55.19 | treke | it is? |
| 23:55.48 | Dilb_d-8 | go to any of the opn url |
| 23:56.15 | treke | they dont resolve here |
| 23:56.41 | Dilb_d-8 | maybe something happened during the last 2 zeeks |
| 23:57.07 | Dilb_d-8 | but I don't care anymore, whatever could happen I won't change my mind about this network |
| 23:57.43 | dwmw2 | evening |
| 23:57.48 | treke | at least lilo has shut up lately |
| 23:57.51 | Dilb_d-8 | hi dwmw2 |
| 23:57.57 | dwmw2 | hi |
| 23:58.04 | sunfriez | is there any amung you who doesn't know them self |
| 23:58.16 | kergoth | ibot: lart sunfriez |
| 23:58.25 | Dilb_d-8 | treke: he shouldn't have started |
| 23:58.30 | treke | Dilb_d-8: agreed |
| 23:59.14 | treke | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2305050388 |