irclog2html for opie on 2002.08.22

00:05:46lars_gSubmited
00:05:54lars_gI hope it was enough info.
00:07:17lars_gticket id 0000166
00:08:24lars_gI prefer Mantis
00:08:31spiralmanyeah, its nice
00:08:40lars_git's easier to understand and learn on a stride than bugzilla
00:08:50spiralmanlooks like youve got a fair amount of info in there
00:08:51lars_gand searching is infinitely easier too
00:09:36lars_gI try to be as helpfull as possible.
00:09:41lars_g:)
00:11:22lars_gmind if I give you a virtual hug ljp?
00:11:28lars_gThat ftp at port 4242 solves many problems
00:12:32drwAnd was thinking about your advanced option in textedit
00:14:01drwWas wondering if you would mind if I made textedit use the global config option
00:14:15drwAnd remove the menu item
00:15:06lars_gI am cheerfull again :9
00:15:08lars_g:)
00:15:53lars_gljp: is this ftp port at 4242 the std way qtopia-desktop syncs?
00:17:12drwlars_g: I believe it is
00:31:31spiralmanis there any way to make top display in order of memory used?
00:37:10drwspiralman: 'M'
00:37:33spiralmanthanks
00:38:58spiralmanhrm
00:39:47spiralmanmy mem usage is a lot higher than the process seem to add up to
00:41:33drwI think that number includes shared libraries, so if 3 programs use a library they all show the library's memory useage
00:43:44drwso the real total use by the processsssss
00:44:03spiralmanwell, mine was the oposite error (i thought)
00:44:05drwsorry, processes is less than they represent
00:44:15drwbut total memory useage
00:44:18spiralmanbut i wasnt paying attention to free and cached
00:44:36drwincludes cache and that stuff
00:46:35drwlinux tries to use free memory to optimize performance, so even on a lightly loaded machine, it shows almost all memory used
00:46:55AntiProxyhi everyone
00:47:13spiralmanhey
00:47:24AntiProxyi clicked on cardmgr`s applet icon... found my Ethernet card.. clicked it. and cardmgr said the card was disabled
00:47:36AntiProxybut its not
00:50:00AntiProxyhrm
00:50:03AntiProxyit worked
00:50:11drwlater everyone
00:50:17spiralmanAntiProxy: all it does is call cardctl eject
00:50:19spiralmandrw: later
00:51:11AntiProxyhmmm
00:51:17AntiProxyhow can i play pacman!?
00:51:25AntiProxydoes it need the keyboard by any chance?
00:51:57spiralmanhit space
00:52:41spiralmanyou can do it in the virtual keyboard
00:53:01AntiProxyhmm
00:53:03AntiProxyuseless
00:53:04AntiProxy.\
00:53:13AntiProxythe display doesnt resize
00:53:26AntiProxyand the virtual keyboard blocks have the maze
00:53:51spiralmanthey might have remapped it to some other buttons
00:53:53AntiProxyhmm
00:54:01spiralman(hardware buttons)
00:54:01AntiProxywhats the name of the system_info tool?
00:54:06AntiProxyit disapeared somehow
00:54:11spiralmanthe ipkg name?
00:54:14AntiProxyyup
00:54:26spiralmanopie-sysinfo
00:54:44AntiProxyPackage opie-sysinfo (0.9.1-20020816) installed in root is up to date
00:54:46AntiProxyhmm
00:54:49AntiProxythen where is it?!
00:54:49AntiProxylol
00:55:17AntiProxy*sigh*
00:55:21AntiProxysorry..  my fault
00:55:26AntiProxyit was right infront of me
00:56:35AntiProxywho`s working on bluetooth manager?
00:57:00spiralmani think harlekin, but im not sure
00:57:22AntiProxy.\
00:57:32spiralmangotta go
00:57:35spiralmanis away: dinner
00:57:38AntiProxyttyl..
00:58:24spiralmanis away: dinner
01:06:08Neo|Workis away: home
01:18:40spiralmanis back
02:21:29AntiProxyTab Manager _should_ have the capability of copying/pasting and moving items between tabs
02:21:45treke|ho1eand it cant?
02:21:47spiralmanits planed
02:22:07AntiProxygoes to the shell to sort this mess manually
02:22:10AntiProxyoh
02:22:11AntiProxybtw
02:22:24AntiProxyif i move an item from a tab to another..
02:22:26treke|ho1eAntiProxy: dont forget that ipkg will happily replace the files when you update the apps
02:22:33AntiProxywould ipkg still know where it is?
02:22:37AntiProxythere you go
02:22:37AntiProxy.\
02:22:38treke|ho1enope
02:22:52AntiProxythis sux
02:22:57AntiProxyditches opie
02:22:59AntiProxylol
02:23:09treke|ho1eqtopia is better?
02:23:17AntiProxyi`m happy with opie
02:23:30spiralmanwhats wrong right now?
02:24:02AntiProxyspiralman: nothing.. i have a whole lot of icons, and opie is SO slow going around them..
02:24:09AntiProxyso i thought of splitting them up in tabs
02:24:15spiralmanahh
02:24:21AntiProxybut apparently a single ipkg update would mess everything up
02:24:22spiralmanthere is a tabmanager that you can use
02:24:27spiralmanyeah, it would
02:24:33treke|ho1eAntiProxy: using liquid?
02:24:41AntiProxyyup.. i reverted back to light
02:24:49AntiProxyliquid looks cool.. but slows opie down
02:25:07AntiProxytoo much visual effects for a lil` 206Mhz CPU
02:25:13AntiProxy.)
02:25:32AntiProxywho said 400MHz XScale are too much for a pocket?
02:26:28spiralmanthat would probably draw liquid slower, actually
02:26:29AntiProxythough i`m having so much fun fixing and tweaking things the way i want..
02:26:44spiralmanbecause liquids transparency thing uses a lot of mem transfer, which is where xscale sucks
02:26:46AntiProxyi would love to see a fully working distribution for the handhelds .)
02:27:17AntiProxyspiralman: they also run fbdev ?
02:27:25spiralmanwho also runs fbdev?
02:27:48AntiProxybtw.. i always thought iPAQs had a graphics processor
02:28:12spiralmannope, just about everything is done in the cpu
02:29:05spiralmanusb, video, pcmcia
02:29:11spiralmanprobably more
02:29:16treke|ho1eI wonder if turning off the background image would speed stuff up much
02:29:17AntiProxyside not: ( USB modules should send a resume signal to wake the iPAQ up when its docked.. )
02:29:23AntiProxys/not/note/
02:29:37AntiProxyi already tried that
02:29:39AntiProxyno good
02:29:40AntiProxy.)
02:29:44hashback
02:29:51AntiProxywell
02:29:55AntiProxyi just started my iPAQ
02:30:21AntiProxyhmm
02:30:25AntiProxyi found something
02:30:25AntiProxyone sec
02:31:23AntiProxythis is too slow
02:31:28AntiProxyi always do the same mistake
02:31:28AntiProxyheh
02:31:48AntiProxyipkg install task-x-complete and task-opie-complete
02:34:08AntiProxyi`m running opie as a different user
02:34:12AntiProxyit works fine so far
02:34:34AntiProxyumm
02:34:38AntiProxyno.. it looks fine..
02:34:41AntiProxybut it doesnt work
02:34:41AntiProxyheh
02:56:20NeoTronis back (gone 19:58:11)
04:35:37spiralmannight all
04:53:52hashany german speakers here?
04:54:38treke|homehehe
04:55:00hashi need someone to complete the german keymap
04:55:05hashfor multikey
04:55:50treke|homehash: 75% of the core opie developers are german speakers
04:56:04hashtreke|home: can you do it?
04:56:10treke|homeno
04:56:22hashT_T
04:56:33treke|homeI'm neither a core developer nor a german speaker :)
04:56:45hashok...
04:56:50hashneither am i
04:57:08treke|homecome back in about 8-10 hours
04:57:17hashsure
04:57:54treke|homeI believe this is normal working/school hours over in that area of europe
04:58:29hashyeah, maybe
06:02:22Grouchohi there
06:03:29treke|ho1ehey
06:04:23hashGroucho: meta-key in multikey is working...
06:05:52hashnow someone just has to finish the map
06:14:07Burner23Hello World
06:19:52Grouchohash: Yes, I noticed it. Just uploaded it into the updated feed
06:20:03Burner23hey Groucho
06:20:15Grouchohi
06:21:00GrouchoFor the world's interes: A few updates have made way into the feed at opie.info
06:21:34hashGroucho: when was it built?
06:22:00Grouchohash: 10 minutes ago. Don't worry, the latest additions are in
06:22:15hashok, thanks
06:22:31hashGroucho: are all the maps in share/multikey/* included?
06:22:38GrouchoI hope so :-)
06:22:47hashme too ^_^
06:22:51hashmost likely
06:23:03Grouchoipkg upgrade;ipkg update and we are ready to go :-)
06:23:18hashright
06:23:20hashbetter try it out
06:23:33Grouchoin the opposite order- first update, then upgrade :-)
06:25:09treke|ho1eotimepicker isnt the widget used in the datebook is it?
06:25:52Grouchotreke: No
06:25:57Grouchonot yet as it seems
06:26:29treke|ho1egood. That one works, but isnt a widget I'd like to see people using regularly :)
06:27:09Grouchotreke: Which one- otimepicker ?
06:27:20treke|ho1enah, the one in the datebook.
06:27:25treke|ho1eI havent seen otimepicker yet
06:27:35Grouchoah, I suspected that *g*
06:28:09GrouchoThe one in datebook is compolicated and not very "developer friendly"
06:28:16treke|ho1eor user
06:30:31Grouchohash: looks great...
06:30:56Grouchohash: However I just changed the map to de and nothing happend- also the text color is not applied
06:31:22hashweird
06:33:52Grouchohash: Ah, I see. The layout changes, but not to. Some buttons appear but I still have the qwerty layout in the second row and no umlauts.
06:34:19Grouchocorean seems to work ...
06:36:23Grouchohash: pressed buttons keep their color as long as the keyboard is open ...
06:36:39hashhmm...
06:36:49hashGroucho: could you pleaes update the packages again?
06:37:48Grouchook
06:38:16hashi really dont get why the de keymap doesnt work
06:39:21GrouchoHm, Ijust had an interesting effect- without key repeat being set, it refused to enter anything...
06:39:28Grouchohowever, update is on the way
06:40:33hashGroucho: this is weird... seems to be an old version or something
06:40:46Grouchohmm, it is gone...
06:41:21erwanhi all
06:41:27Grouchohio
06:42:03erwani've import crystal icons to opie, and it roxs !  http://erwan.velu.free.fr/ipaq/crystal2.png
06:42:17Grouchowahoo :-)
06:42:41Grouchoerwan: Can you make an ipkg out of it ?
06:42:49hashhttp://131.152.105.154/feeds/ipaq/unstable/
06:42:55hashthis is the right feed, right?
06:42:59Grouchoright
06:43:05Grouchowait a few seconds....
06:43:12hashk
06:44:02Grouchohash: Ready
06:44:13hashk
06:44:27hashno pacakges got upgraded
06:44:31Groucho?
06:44:40Grouchooops
06:45:19erwanGroucho: of my icons ?
06:45:23Grouchoerwans: Yes
06:48:19Grouchohash: minor feed problems :-)
06:48:27hashhmm...
06:49:50hashkey repeat works fine for me
06:50:00hashthe problem with the german is that the map is old
06:50:03hashvery old
06:50:15Grouchoah...
06:50:21hashthe one in share/multikey/de.keymap
06:50:30hashand so is the english one too
06:50:31hashi think
06:51:15hashnever builds for arm... just for qvfb
06:51:28hashi dont know how it's really going to run till i get packages myself
06:51:28Grouchono problem- I do :-=
06:51:31Groucho:-)
06:53:47hashi should start testing it out on my ipaq too
06:54:03Grouchohash: Sorry, upgrading seems to make problems. I have uploaded the new one under the same file name so you will have to remove and reinstall multikey
06:54:14hashok
06:54:21hashare you sure it's updated thouigh?
06:54:30Grouchoyes
06:54:33hashok
06:54:50BADminTONHey boys. Anyone interested in aTheme for the ipaq??
06:54:57GrouchoAlways...
06:55:36Grouchothemes are welcome
06:56:00hashGroucho: nope... not working
06:56:08hashGroucho: there should even be a new map
06:56:17hashbut its not in the package
06:56:23hashso... i'm not so sure it's updated
06:56:59hashand that key color problem is really fixed
06:57:03Burner23much better ?
06:57:11hashthe buttons... well, thats another story
06:57:19hashcus on lite, it works fine
06:57:31hashbut other themes paint buttons differently
06:57:50hashi'll fix that later
06:58:02Grouchook
06:59:07hashbut the rest still seems to be pretty recent
06:59:26hashcus i added ctrl + x c v support early today
06:59:37hash(12 hours ago?)
07:00:11Groucholooks good
07:01:32hashwhat does?
07:01:40Grouchomultikey
07:01:56hashdoes your version still have that key color problem?
07:02:00Grouchoyes
07:02:03hash;,,;
07:02:08hashmaybe i didnt commit
07:02:12GrouchoI am just looking after versioning problems
07:04:00hashoops, didnt commit that key coloring problem
07:04:22Grouchoah, ok
07:04:23hashbut the maps should be there
07:04:26Groucho:-=
07:04:52hashhttp://cvs.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/opie/share/multikey/
07:05:30GrouchoI am completely rebuilg multikey to be sure
07:05:33Grouchorebuilding
07:05:40hashok
07:10:50hashthe themes metal and luna dont let you change button colors at all
07:12:25hashthey must be 100% raster images
07:12:39Burner23what is the timezone for germany ??
07:12:47hash+2?
07:14:43GrouchoBurner23: Berlin, GMT+1
07:14:50hashhehe
07:14:53hashclose guess
07:16:03erwanGroucho: i'm asking the guy who made this icons about the right of integrate them in opie. maybe i will make more icons for opie :-))
07:16:14erwans/maybe i/maybe he/
07:18:37Burner23thx Groucho
07:21:26hashGroucho: fixed?
07:23:35Grouchohash: I hope so :-)
07:23:46Grouchoerwan: Great
07:23:54hashGroucho: do you have enjumpx.keymap in your share/multikey/ dir?
07:24:00Grouchosec...
07:26:32hashbuilding opie-arm
07:30:36Grouchohash: Nothing fixed- I dont get it... Something strange is happening :-)
07:31:31Grouchohash: The following files are in-
07:31:35Groucho 5359 Aug 13 21:16 de.keymap
07:31:39Groucho5359 Aug 12 09:34 en.keymap
07:31:43Groucho5373 Aug 15 23:25 fr.keymap
07:31:46Groucho5171 Aug 12 09:34 ko.keymap
07:31:55GrouchoFrom CVS
07:32:17Grouchoah- wait...
07:32:36GrouchoI just removed the keymaps and did a cvs upgrade- now new files are in ...
07:32:49hashcool
07:32:52hashand the key color problem
07:32:53hash?
07:32:58GrouchoStill there...
07:33:02hashdoih
07:33:14DaWormtaena ba't ka pupunta sa download.com kung hahanap ka ng linux
07:33:14DaWormhehe
07:33:28Groucho???
07:33:45GrouchoOPIE konquered by Bantus ?
07:34:08Grouchotried to read this backwards but to no avail
07:35:31hashotimepicker.h:10: opie/otimepickerbase.h: No such file or directory
07:35:36hashanyone else getting that?
07:38:14Grouchohash: otimepicker is new ...
07:38:26Grouchoshould be included
07:39:06hashrunning cvs up
07:41:38Grouchohash: Everything ok now, including text color
07:42:32hashhow can i co something, but have the main dir as a different name localy?
07:42:54Grouchocvs -d<directory> iirc
07:43:11hashso
07:43:15Grouchocvs -d <directory>
07:43:23hashcvs -d opie-arm opie
07:43:31hashlike that?
07:43:32Grouchocvs -d <directory>
07:43:35Grouchooops
07:43:41Grouchocvs -d opie-arm co opie
07:44:49hashah screw it
07:45:44hashGroucho: german work?
07:45:59Grouchohash: _Everything_ works :-)
07:46:05hashGroucho: really?
07:46:11Grouchoyes- including text color
07:46:15hashwow
07:46:21Grouchogreat tool, btw
07:46:33hashwhat happens if you hold down the right alt key?
07:46:51hashin the german map
07:47:19hashbtw, is this package in the feed?
07:47:38Grouchohash: right alt key gives me th @
07:47:46hashyes... it's working
07:47:52hashfheewww
07:47:55Grouchoyeah
07:48:03Grouchoand yes, it's in the feed
07:48:14hashenjumpx.keymap too?
07:48:40Grouchoyes
07:48:55hashnice
07:49:00hashdownloading
07:50:05rumour has it kitchensync is the ultimate syncing tool for KDE3 written by Aliens at the Area 51a ;) or not out yet. or in the kde3 cvs
07:50:05Burner23ibot: kitchensync
07:50:28Burner23anyone used kitchensync ??
07:51:03hashmuch better... ^_^
07:51:24GrouchoBurner23: not ready yet
07:51:30Burner23too bad :)
07:51:37GrouchoBurner23: Wait for KDE3.1
07:52:13Grouchohttp://handhelds.org/scap/html.cgi?fn=port.7619.png
07:52:13Burner23k
07:52:23Burner23I use KDE 3 now and lke it very much.
07:53:47Grouchohttp://handhelds.org/scap/html.cgi?fn=port.7843.png
07:54:08Grouchohttp://handhelds.org/scap/html.cgi?fn=port.7857.png
07:54:49hashcolor buttons dont work in that theme till you cvs up again...
07:54:49hashhehe
07:55:05hashthey work, its just that you cant see the color on the button itself
07:55:15hashminor update
07:55:23hashcan wait till next build for that
08:01:10hashGroucho: any crashes yet?
08:01:15GrouchoNo
08:01:38Grouchohash: You have a developers account in Mantis ?
08:01:42hashnope
08:01:49hashjust a reporter's account
08:01:55Grouchowait...
08:01:59hashk
08:03:14Grouchohash: I have promoted you to "developer" :-)
08:03:33hashsweet
08:03:41GrouchoI want people developing opie apps be reachable for bug reports
08:03:57hashnice
08:04:36hashi also wrote kjumpx you know... but nobody except for me uses it
08:04:42hashno other koreans use opie
08:04:43GrouchoWell, I am not sure if you find it nice if people flood you with bug reports :-)
08:05:02Grouchohash: make some PR ;-)
08:05:28hashmy friends dont want to risk installing linux on their ipaqs
08:05:35GrouchoShall I promote you to be the korean OPIE representative ? :-D
08:05:41hashhaha
08:05:44hashcool
08:05:50hashwhy not?
08:06:02hashi translated lots of stuff and made fonts too
08:06:19GrouchoAt least there is nothing wrong with doing PR in korea
08:06:32hashonly one problem
08:06:38hashi'm not living in korea right now
08:06:56Grouchoah... That's a problem *ggg*
08:08:44hashaddressbook must be really cryptic
08:08:51hashnobody can fix that i18n bug
08:09:17Grouchohash: carsten, the maintainer, is not the right man for that bug, unfortunately
08:09:42hashit should be fixed by whoever is working on addressbook though
08:09:44hashis he?
08:10:13Grouchohash: carsten is i18n-MAintainer, not addressbook
08:10:34Grouchohowever this bug requires someone with programming skills
08:10:37hashyeah, it's addressbook's maintainer's job anyway
08:11:04hashanyway
08:11:10hashit's way past my bed time
08:11:12hashsee ya
08:11:14GrouchoThere currently is no definite maintainer for addressbook- someone wanted to write a new one anyway
08:11:19Grouchocu
08:11:23hashyeah
08:18:58modhello
08:19:18modhas someone get syncing opie with evolution?
08:47:38erwanback
08:48:41erwanhow can i backup all my system into a .jffs2 image ?
08:51:38Grouchoerwan: dd if=/dev/mtdblock/1 bs=1024 count=16128 of=<filename.jffs>
08:51:57Grouchocount depends on you flash size- this is for 16M flash
08:58:49Burner23Groucho: is there something like avantgo for the ipaq??
08:59:00GrouchoBurner23: not yet ...
08:59:07Burner23I remeber seeing something, but I dont remember the name.
08:59:24avantgo is, like, currently being ongoing at http://www.handhelds.org/z/wiki/LiMalC
08:59:24Burner23ibot: avantgo
08:59:26erwanGroucho: are you sure that bootldr could read it, after via "load root" ?
08:59:46GrouchoHowever you can use sitescooper or similar to fetch URLs on the desktop an scp them to the ipaq
09:00:13GrouchoLiMalC is almost daed as it seems
09:00:17Grouchodead
09:00:32GrouchoI have something else in the works, but it will take time
09:09:05Burner23http://ipaq.geekserve.org/ check this page, has just 5 apps, but.. well nothing more :)
09:10:23v3Anybody ever get the SanDisk small Secure digital cards to work?
09:13:02Grouchoerwan: It should- but no guarantee
09:24:11GrouchoInformational note: I have just reuploaded the famous NetHack game for opie into the feed. Have fun.
09:35:06Groucho_lunchis away: on lunch hunt
09:42:46Burner23is away: need food to survive :)

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10:18:46Burner23_lunchis back (gone 00:35:59) 10:36:27Burner23Hello Harlekin 10:37:24Harlekinhi 10:40:15Burner23how are you Harlekin 10:40:54Harlekingood 10:51:19immhi 10:52:14immHarlekin: ping 10:52:17Harlekiny 10:52:23Harlekiny as yes 10:52:24Harlekin.) 10:52:35immHarlekin: about my bitBlt prob 10:53:04immHarlekin: can i blend the colors of a QCanvasSprite without flicker ? 10:54:04Harlekindouble buffer 10:54:18Harlekinwhat are you actually doing? 10:55:09immHarlekin: i would to show a tab with a heart which change the color 10:55:30immHarlekin: are you on qt-interest ? 10:55:58Harlekinno 10:56:57immHarlekin: it was you wo told me about the bug in qte 2.3 with bitBlt ? 10:57:47Harlekinthere are some connected to bitBlt 10:58:28immso if i take a QCanvas it should be better ? 10:59:41Harlekinnot sure 10:59:53Harlekinabout graphics stuff talk to mark and neowork 11:00:12immHarlekin: ok, i just try it :) 11:09:19Burner23I know this is off-topic, but how can I make a normal MP3 file smaller? Bitrate 11:10:00immBurner23: try ogg 11:10:01HarlekinBurner23: use ogg 11:10:14immfaster :) 11:10:17Burner23hehe 11:10:23Burner23what you mean by ogg ? 11:10:29ogg is found at http://www.xiph.org 11:10:29immibot: ogg 11:10:30Burner23I know it is a codec 11:11:12HarlekinBurner23: ogg at 64 kbit sounds as mp3 at 128 11:11:52Burner23cool 11:12:00Burner23how can I convert it ? 11:12:18Burner23I need some tools to do that, right ?? 11:12:30Burner23ipkg make sound smaller :) 11:13:45Harlekinoggenc is the ogg encoder 11:14:04Burner23can I use it when I have already .mp3 files ? 11:17:44Harlekinthen you have to convert them to wav first 11:17:49Harlekinbut remember 11:17:55Harlekinmp3 looses a lot from the orginal 11:18:08Harlekinif you use that as basis for another loss codec ... 11:18:10Harlekinbut try it 11:18:15Harlekinits not that bad 11:19:22Burner23I just want to save space on my Ipaq 3630 11:19:42Harlekinyeah 11:19:44Harlekini do that 11:19:49Harlekinfor example 11:19:50Harlekin.-) 11:24:14Burner23hehe I found a perl script that does it. 11:26:38erwanis there an ogg player for ipaq ? 11:27:36geerserwan: yes, but I dont recall the name 11:27:47GrouchoWhat about oggplay ? 11:27:56erwangeers: is it in familiar or opie ? 11:28:04Harlekinerwan: op² 11:28:24Harlekinogg, ogg streaming and seeking in ogg files 11:28:44GrouchoAnd for console operation: ogg123 11:28:46Grouchohttp://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=201 11:29:09Harlekinfor people who want an ogg player that plays for 14 h 11:29:17Harlekindilb is working on something 11:48:02Burner23do I need to install all files (curl, libcurl, ogg123 ...) ? 11:48:13Harlekinfor what 11:48:18Burner23oggplaying :) 11:48:32Harlekinif you use op² its all inclusive allready 11:48:36Burner23aint there no plugin for the opieplayer? 11:48:43Burner23really ? 11:48:56HarlekinBurner23: yeah, in the big codec ipk 11:49:00Burner23do ypu mean opie or is op² something else? 11:49:02Harlekinwhich is not separated 11:49:06Harlekinopieplayer 2 11:49:20Harlekin300 kb of the codecs is the ogg stuff 11:49:21Burner23ahh. Need to check this 11:50:03Burner23but where can I get it? I have no opieplayer2 in my feed 11:50:15Harlekinwhat is your feed 11:51:45Burner23all from familiar.handhelds 11:51:57Burner23I didnt put others inside. 11:52:08Burner23are there others ? 11:52:14i heard opie feed was http://opie.handhelds.org/feed/ipaq or newer on http://131.152.105.154/feeds/ipaq/unstable/ or at http://openzaurus.sourceforge.net/feeds/3.0/ 11:52:14Harlekinibot: opie feed 11:52:18Harlekin http://131.152.105.154/feeds/ipaq/unstable/ 11:55:33Burner23what do I need to write in the line ?? 11:55:38Burner23src http://131.152.105.154/feeds/ipaq/unstable/ ??? 11:56:58erwanBurner23: in ipkg.conf ? 11:57:02Burner23yes 11:57:11erwansrc unstable  http://131.152.105.154/feeds/ipaq/unstable/ 11:58:09Burner23k :) 12:05:00Burner23why do I get a segmentation fault after adding the two feeds to my ipkg.conf and updating? 12:05:04Burner23Is there a reson ?? 12:05:16Grouchono :-) 12:05:30Burner23strange. 12:05:51geersBurner23: what are you updating from and to? 12:06:25GrouchoBurner23: Are you running OPIE-1.5 ? 12:06:41GrouchoPropably yes... 12:06:44Burner23I added these two feeds to my ipkg.conf "src unstable http://131.152.105.154/feeds/ipaq/unstable" and "src unstable  http://openzaurus.sourceforge.net/feeds/3.0" 12:07:01benmeyer was last seen on #zaurus 15 hours, 54 minutes and 45 seconds ago, saying: see you all tomarrow [Wed Aug 21 21:12:16 2002] 12:07:01killefizibot: seen benmeyer 12:07:14Burner23opie 0.9.1 snapshot 12:07:22GrouchoBurner23: Remove the openzaurus feed if you are running on the ipaq 12:07:27Burner23k 12:07:28geersBurner23: is it a sharp? 12:07:57Burner23no 12:07:58Burner23ipaq 12:08:11Burner23ohoh 12:08:16Burner23I cant update anymore :( 12:08:35GrouchoSomething in your ipkg status file must have gone wrong ... 12:08:41immkillefiz: is it possible to remove the first screenshot on zbounce at killefiz.de 12:08:42geersgroucho told you what to do, you probably need a fresh install now 12:08:45Burner23think so. 12:08:56GrouchoBurner23: wait 12:09:15GrouchoBurner23: Open /usr/lib/ipkg/status with an editor 12:09:20Burner23k 12:09:32Burner23yep 12:09:45GrouchoBurner23: Remove all entries with not-installed and uninstalled 12:09:57killefizimm: removed 12:10:08Burner23k 12:10:23Grouchooops, killefiz is alive- thought he was a bot :-) 12:10:30killefizGroucho: thanks ;) 12:10:32GrouchoBurner23: save the file and update 12:10:50immkillefiz: thanks ! 12:11:35immkillefiz: that was the wrong one :) 12:12:17killefizimm: i removed the one that was shown left to the desciption (the first one) 12:12:35killefizimm: maybe your cache is fooling you? try a shift-reload 12:12:48immkillefiz: oops, yep the cache was it, sorry 12:13:37Burner23did it Groucho 12:14:03Burner23still segmentation fault. 12:14:20GrouchoBurner23: what does ipkg list do ? Seg fault ? 12:14:45Burner23yep 12:15:21GrouchoBurner23: Get into the status file and remove all entries which do not state "installed" and "ok" 12:17:24Burner23did it another way. 12:17:44Burner23there is a file called /usr/lib/ipkg/unstable/Package 12:17:53Burner23I moved it away and it works. 12:18:01GrouchoWas propably corrupt 12:18:08Burner23yes 12:18:51Burner23I said in the ipkg.conf that the zaurus and the other feed should be both unstable, so I think he merged both and got corrupted. 12:18:58Burner23Is good now :) 12:19:04Burner23Learning by doing 12:19:08Grouchoright 12:20:04GrouchoBTW- If anyone want to try out nethack- it is in the feed now 12:20:55Burner23never played it. 12:21:04sethstupid question: what is nethack good for? 12:21:05Burner23How can I check my installed progs ?? 12:21:10Burner23game :) 12:21:11Grouchoipkg status 12:21:15Burner23k 12:32:21geersseth: its a game 12:33:31Grouchonethack is a "fantasy" game which origins on the old terminals 12:34:00GrouchoA DnD style game 12:58:29bipolar*sigh* 12:59:55Burner23do I need qt-embedded, when I use opie (dumb question) :) 13:00:47erwanBurner23: it seems :-)) 13:00:50Burner23hehe 13:01:14Burner23how about xlibs ? 13:01:25Grouchonope 13:02:11Burner23strange 15 Megs of software 13:02:34Grouchoindeed ... 13:03:06Burner23why cant I just make the whole 32 Megs as 1 Partition 13:03:14bipolaranyone know a way to open a 8.25MB M$ Word document? Everything I've tried dies or doesn't render properly.... :\ 13:03:20bipolarthis sucks 13:05:01GrouchoWord sucks ... 13:05:07bipolaryep 13:06:07Burner23M$ sux :) 13:06:14Burner23tried it with openoffice? 13:06:48erwanBurner23: openoffice works fine, staroffice also 13:07:07bipolarBurner23:OO crashes on the file 13:07:49Burner23Does OO just popup a failure and then crash ?? 13:09:05bipolarBurner23: on Winblows it says out of memory then internal error, then crashes. On Linux it just quits silently. 13:10:27Burner23ery strange. 13:10:34Burner23I really don't know 13:11:32bipolarabiword does the best job, but it does not render a lot of things 13:11:38erwanbipolar: have you tried koffice ? 13:11:57bipolarerwan: Last time I checked koffice did not read .docs 13:12:49Burner23bipolar: check it. I think it should work. 13:12:57Burner23I can check it in a minute if you wait. 13:14:48bipolarBurner23: it crashed 13:14:53Burner23k 13:15:00Burner23damn. 13:17:07bipolarDoes anyone here have word2000 and a fat pipe that can do me a favor? :) 13:17:44Groucho:-) 13:19:54dopezis anyone able to start the opieplayer2 in the unstable feed? it just gets killed because it doenst have enough memory (about 44mb free memory) the older beta i tryed (dated 19 aug) worked just fine (except i had to rename my .ogg files to .mp3 ;) 13:21:11Burner23bipolar: I would love to do it, but check Edonkey. 13:21:30bipolarEdonkey? 13:21:39Burner23www.edonkey2000.com 13:21:44Burner23peer2peer 13:21:50bipolarahhh.... I'll check it out 13:21:50Burner23works really fast 13:21:55Grouchodopez: As mentioned before - op2 is a memory hug because libxine is. Maybe the guys are able to fix it. 13:22:09Burner23better check mldonkey. This client can connect to multiple servers 13:23:01Burner23bipolar: then go to one of those sites: www.eselfilme.de   eselfilme.de.vu sharereaktor.com 13:23:56bipolarBurner23: what is this supposed to do for me? I just want to convert the file. Do you need a way to get it to you? 13:25:10Burner23I thought you need word2000. 13:25:36bipolarBurner23: no... I just need a document converted into a more useful format. 13:25:37bipolar:) 13:25:49Burner23hehe. was my second thought :) 13:25:51erwanbipolar: send it me 13:26:02Burner23Sorry bipolar I use linux :) 13:26:10erwanerwan: but in bz2 13:26:17erwanBurner23: so am i 13:27:30bipolarerwan: you can get it at: http://www.microkey.com/mkmmane.zip 13:27:30bipolarerwan: it's already zipped. 13:27:30Burner23why does opie-mediaplayer2 crash?? 13:27:31bipolarerwan: if you want it bz2'ed, I can do that too and post it on my site. 13:27:31dopezBurner23 , check with dmesg, probablly memory problems 13:27:40erwanbipolar: that's ok 13:36:21Burner23dopez: nothing in dmesg 13:39:57dopezmaybe try starting it from a shell , ssh in and export the stuff need bij opie (see /etc/init.d/opie) and start opieplayer2 , with the latest version i tryed i just get terminated after it loads a few codecs 13:40:08dopezbij/by 13:41:37bipolarhere is an error I've never gotten.... 13:41:57bipolarCannot open MKMS Version 4x Manual1018.png for writing:Too many open files 13:42:23erwanbipolar: can't open ... 13:42:27erwanbipolar: :-( 13:42:44bipolarerwan: it's trying to create that file. 13:49:54bipolarerwan: any luck? 13:53:22Burner23opieplay terminates after a few codecs. 13:56:08erwanbipolar: no 13:56:19bipolarerwan: :( 13:56:29bipolarerwan: what did you try to open it with? 13:57:32Burner23Well I make my way home. 13:57:36Burner23C U tomorrow. 13:57:41erwanbipolar: koffice, soffice 6 13:57:48erwanBurner23: see U 13:57:56bipolarerwan: k 13:58:00bipolarBurner23: later 13:58:26Burner23Maybe opieplay is fixed till tomorrow :) 13:58:29Burner23CU 14:24:41mickeylis leaving for a while... 14:30:45GrouchoFEED UPDATE: opie nethack now saves files so go grab your copy today :-) 14:39:42AntiProxyoipkg has a problem 14:40:05AntiProxywhen removing opie packages. it restarts opie apparently.. but the screen gets messed up.. 14:40:19AntiProxyas i see oipkg in the background.. and opie-login mixed with it 14:40:45AntiProxyis it a known bug? or should i take a screenshot? 14:41:02spiralmanhrm 14:41:08spiralmancan you ssh in? 14:41:15AntiProxyme? yes i can 14:41:15spiralmanwhat does ps -A show? 14:41:22AntiProxyone sec 14:41:55AntiProxythis is messed up 14:42:02AntiProxyi used oipkg twice 14:42:14AntiProxyUplink to HUB 14:42:17AntiProxywrong clipboard.. 14:42:19AntiProxy 1032 root      10716 R    oipkg -qcop /tmp/qcop-msg-oipkg 14:42:21AntiProxy 1081 root      14876 R    oipkg -qcop /tmp/qcop-msg-oipkg 14:42:35AntiProxythough oipkg doesnt seem to be running in opie itself 14:42:48AntiProxylemme kill it and start fresh 14:43:09spiralmanbut is there more than one instance of qpe or opie-login> 14:43:10spiralman? 14:43:37AntiProxysomething is not right here 14:43:45AntiProxyi restarted opie ( Shutdown app ) 14:43:49AntiProxyopie-login didnt show up 14:43:54AntiProxythough its running in the background 14:44:00AntiProxy  367 root       2732 S    /bin/sh /opt/QtPalmtop/bin/opieatd 14:44:00AntiProxy  397 root       7832 S    /opt/QtPalmtop/bin/opie-login 14:44:07AntiProxy 1032 root      10716 R    oipkg -qcop /tmp/qcop-msg-oipkg 14:44:07AntiProxy 1081 root      14876 R    oipkg -qcop /tmp/qcop-msg-oipkg 14:44:07AntiProxy 1091 root      10728 R    qpe 14:44:22AntiProxyand oipkg obviously didnt get terminated by restarting opie 14:44:36spiralmanwhen you restart opie from the shutdown app, you shouldnt get the login prompt, i dont think 14:44:40spiralmani havent for a while anyway 14:44:50AntiProxywhy is it in the bg then? 14:45:20spiralmanhrm, im not sure 14:45:38AntiProxywhats the deal with the mobile message tool thingie? 14:45:48AntiProxyit doesnt work.. doesnt have an icon.. and i forgot the package name 14:45:49AntiProxyheh 14:45:59spiralmanit may not be working yet 14:46:10spiralmanits for communicating wifh celphones 14:48:21AntiProxyi rebooted 14:48:26AntiProxyopie started 14:48:31AntiProxywith two instances of opie-login 14:48:33AntiProxy 365 root       2732 S    /bin/sh /opt/QtPalmtop/bin/opieatd 14:48:34AntiProxy  382 root       7832 S    /opt/QtPalmtop/bin/opie-login 14:48:34AntiProxy  384 root       9180 S    /opt/QtPalmtop/bin/opie-login 14:48:36AntiProxyno qpe yet 14:48:41spiralmanafter a reboot? 14:48:43AntiProxyyup 14:48:44spiralmanthats not good 14:48:49AntiProxyi know 14:48:50AntiProxyi`ll check the script 14:48:52spiralmanyou are using your script, right? 14:49:06AntiProxy        if [ -x $OPIEDIR/bin/opie-login ]; then 14:49:06AntiProxy                $OPIEDIR/bin/opie-login 2>/dev/null >/dev/null & 14:49:10AntiProxyforget my script 14:49:17AntiProxyall it does is call /etc/init.d/opie start 14:49:44AntiProxywhich is what happens if /etc/init.d/opie was linked to a startup script in run level2 scripts 14:50:00AntiProxybut i think the latest opie checks for opie-login internally 14:50:05AntiProxylemme check 14:50:08AntiProxythis might be it 14:50:21AntiProxythat migth be why i thought oipkg is messed up 14:50:24AntiProxydont you agree 14:50:24AntiProxy? 14:50:27AntiProxylemme try it anyway 14:51:04spiralmanwell, oipkg shouldnt be restarting opie, actually 14:51:14spiralmanit calls qcop which updates the launcher and taskbar 14:51:46AntiProxythen it is what i thought 14:51:59AntiProxysince opie-login is being loaded twice 14:52:43AntiProxyaint looking good 14:52:48AntiProxylemme check it all out.. and get back to ya 14:53:58AntiProxyits a problem in opie-login i think 14:54:12AntiProxy#       if [ -x $OPIEDIR/bin/opie-login ]; then 14:54:13AntiProxy#               $OPIEDIR/bin/opie-login 2>/dev/null >/dev/null & 14:54:13AntiProxy#       else 14:54:13AntiProxy                $OPIEDIR/bin/qpe 2>/dev/null >/dev/null & 14:54:13AntiProxy#       fi 14:54:32AntiProxycalling opie-login starts two instances of it 14:54:37spiralmanno 14:54:41AntiProxyone interacts with you.. and one is in the bg 14:54:45AntiProxywell thats how it is here man 14:54:49AntiProxythats what i see 14:54:51spiralman-x just test to see if its executable 14:54:57spiralmanit doesnt actually execute it 14:55:04AntiProxyi know 14:55:09AntiProxy$OPIEDIR/bin/opie-login 2>/dev/null >/dev/null & 14:55:20AntiProxyfor some reason.. opie-login is loading two instances 14:55:32AntiProxyi know the script checks if its executable. and calls it once 14:55:36AntiProxybut its loading up twice 14:55:52AntiProxythats why i said its something in opie-login itself 14:56:04spiralmanare you sure your script isnt calling /etc/init.d/opie twice? 14:56:21AntiProxylol 14:56:22AntiProxydude 14:56:26AntiProxyenough said.. 14:56:26AntiProxycheck this up 14:56:38AntiProxyi had no opie-login in the process list 14:56:48AntiProxybash-2.03# /opt/QtPalmtop/bin/opie-login & 14:56:48AntiProxy[1] 417 14:56:48AntiProxybash-2.03# QServerSocket: failed to bind or listen to the socket 14:56:48AntiProxyQDir::readDirEntries: Cannot read the directory: ../plugins/fontfactories 14:56:48AntiProxyQDir::readDirEntries: Cannot read the directory: ../plugins/inputmethods 14:56:54AntiProxyps aux 14:56:55AntiProxy  417 root       7832 S    /opt/QtPalmtop/bin/opie-login 14:56:57AntiProxy  418 root       8456 S    /opt/QtPalmtop/bin/opie-login 14:56:59AntiProxyits loading twice.. 14:57:05AntiProxyits opie-login 14:57:17AntiProxyi hope you agree.. cuz i`ll start pulling my hair if you dont .) 14:57:31spiralmanok 14:57:45spiralmansubmit a bug report 14:57:50spiralmanand you can downgrade opie-login 14:59:02AntiProxyPackage: opie-login 14:59:03AntiProxyVersion: 0.9.1-20020816 14:59:22spiralmanor upgrade if there is a newer version 14:59:31AntiProxyi`m checking already 15:00:00AntiProxynew libopie on the way 15:03:37AntiProxyspiralman: is it surely an internal problem with opie-login? or can it be a conflict in an external component? 15:03:54spiralmanhrm, thats what im trying to think of 15:05:27erwanHow can i use opie-login ? 15:05:48erwanis stupid 15:05:48spiralmanyou should be able to just install it 15:05:59spiralmanbut you cant use opie as anybody but root right now 15:06:03spiralmanso its not very usefull 15:06:04erwanerwan: that's ok... :-) 15:07:12AntiProxydang... 15:07:19AntiProxylooks for jamey 15:07:22AntiProxybrb 15:09:20erwanwhen i'm login in as user, i can see the desktop but i can't do anything 15:09:34spiralmanerwan: like i said, it doesnt work as anybody but root 15:10:22erwanspiralman: ok, sorry 15:34:00erwani've tried to import my contact in adressbook but many field are lost ! 15:34:06erwanerwan: using vcard format 15:34:15Harlekinhmm 15:34:28erwanhere come an example 15:35:51erwanBEGIN:VCARD 15:35:51erwanX-EVOLUTION-FILE-AS:xxx, xxx 15:35:51erwanFN:xxxx xxxx 15:35:51erwanN:xxx;xxx 15:35:51erwanTEL;HOME:00 00 00 00 00 15:35:52erwanTEL;CELL:00 00 00 00  00 15:35:54erwanTEL;WORK;VOICE:00 00 00 00 00 15:35:58erwanEMAIL;INTERNET:a.a@a.fr 15:36:00erwanEMAIL;INTERNET:a.a@a.fr 15:36:02erwanORG:Amis 15:36:04erwanUID:pas-id-3C2C3ECF00000006 15:36:06erwanEND:VCARD 15:42:46bipolarerwan: what are you trying to import from? 15:43:09erwanbipolar: my vcard from evolution to addresbook 15:44:59bipolaroh 15:45:16erwanbipolar: why such "oh ?" 15:45:33bipolarerwan: I don't use evolution. I use Kmail 15:45:42erwanbipolar: and it works ? 15:46:09bipolarerwan: I ran a script to do it. 15:46:46bipolarerwan: It's very kludgy. I can't wait for zecke's syncing stuff to get done. 15:53:07erwannothing to do with opie, but 15:53:19erwanerwan: xine roxs on ipaq linux !!! :-) 15:53:37treke|ho1ehehe. 15:53:55treke|ho1ebeen playing with opieplayer 2? 15:55:16erwannot yety 15:55:29erwanopieplayer seen to be realy unusable... 16:01:06treke|ho1eerwan: opie player2 is based on xine :) 16:02:11erwantreke|ho1e: i was told about that.. i will test it tomorrow 16:36:04spiralmandoes anybody have a copy of eongame's libsdl ipkg? 16:38:04treke|ho1espiralman: yes 16:38:11spiralmanok, i may need it in a sec 16:38:20spiralmanbut i found some others, so let me see if they work first 16:38:28treke|ho1eits in neos feed 16:38:30spiralmanunless youve got a working copy of scummvm for qtopia? 16:38:33treke|ho1eand I've got one 16:38:51treke|ho1espiralman: Not atm. 16:39:05spiralmanok 16:39:08treke|ho1ethinking of just making it a qapplication :) 16:39:21spiralmanyeah, no real need to fastload that i think : ) 16:39:43treke|ho1eI just cant figure out why the hell it segfaults when I create a QPEAplication :) 16:41:15spiralmanyeah, well qapplication should work as well 16:41:59spiralmanyes! i finally got scummvm working again : ) 16:45:31spiralmanalthough, i think i spent a lot more time doing it than i should have 16:46:04treke|ho1espiralman: do you have a keyboard? 16:52:13carstenkergoth`home: ping 16:52:55spiralmantreke|ho1e: yeah 17:17:43Neo|Workis back (gone 16:11:34) 17:30:46JasonNJqpose is cool but way too slow for regular use 17:30:58JasonNJwhat I would like to see, is a dragonball on a CF card. 17:31:37spiralmanthat would be cool 17:31:52spiralmani wonder how fast it would be though 17:31:59JasonNJand then have some application which uses the Z's shared memory and displays the video. 17:32:12JasonNJspiral: a lot faster than software emulation 17:32:29spiralmanyeah, but probably still not as fast as an actual palm 17:32:38JasonNJspiral: I bet just as fast 17:32:46spiralmanalthough, i dont know how fast a palm can access the memory 17:32:48JasonNJmaybe not a clie, but pretty damn fast 17:33:08JasonNJhell, you could put the dragonball and the ram on the card 17:33:16JasonNJjust use the zaurus for rom loading space 17:33:43JasonNJand map all the hardware buttons and keyboard 17:33:52JasonNJmaybe use SDL to display the palm screen 17:46:49carsten_hi Markus 17:55:11Dilbhi 17:55:56spiralmanhey 19:37:02inominehello all 19:37:03spiralmanhey 19:38:08inomineknow any good image editing progs for opie (freeware/gpl), only simple stuff like resize image feature? 19:38:31spiralmanhave you checked www.killefiz.de/zaurus ? 19:38:42spiralmanthats about all i know of 19:39:02spiralmani havent looked for stuff like that for opie 19:39:07inominei looked there and it was all image viewers and a single commercial app 19:39:37mod_hello 19:39:45spiralmanhey 19:39:46inominelo 19:39:56mod_does somebody uses mplayer with opie? 19:40:21spiralmanhrm, i know there is an ipkg for it, i dont know if anybody uses it 19:40:26spiralmanopieplayer2 is based on xine 19:40:27inomineno, but whats up? 19:40:31spiralman(but still in beta) 19:41:12inomineeven though its already good enough to replace opie player 1 19:41:37spiralmanunless youve only got 32mb ram, in which case it may not work at all : ( 19:41:37inominebut then i used to use madplay :) 19:42:19inominekisses his ipaq 19:43:42Nermalummm 19:44:10inominewhy is it that most of the opie.us site is still in german? 19:44:31spiralmanwell, ljp originally copied opie.info and tried to make a .us mirror 19:44:35spiralmanbut he doesnt know german 19:44:37treke|ho1einomine: no one has finished translating it 19:44:43spiralmanso he was translating it with babelfish 19:44:48mod_i want it to play videostreams (mpeg2) but i get an error about missing lib 19:45:00spiralmanand now hes maintaining opie.handhelds.org 19:45:06spiralmanmod_: install the lib : ) 19:45:30inominemod_: try opie player 2 beta it can do mpeg2 19:45:50mod_spiralman: yesterday i can't install opie mediaplayer2 i canse of missing codecs 19:46:07mod_spiralman: does it really work without x? 19:46:15spiralmanmod_: does what work without x? 19:46:17mod_spiralman: i mean mplayer? 19:46:24spiralmanmod_: i have no clue, ive never used it 19:46:31inomineno idea 19:46:36spiralmanmod_: the opie player ipkgs were updated today,.so try again 19:46:40spiralmanplayer2 that is 19:47:57mod_spiralman: ok i check tomorow because i have no serial connection or wait witch feed and what depecenses do i need also? 19:47:57inominethe only thing we need now is some kind person ar real.com to write a realplayer for opie ;) 19:48:49spiralmanmod_: all you need is the opie-mediaplayer2 and opie-mediaplayer-codecs as far as opieplayer itself 19:49:00spiralmanmod_: but youll probably need some libs that the codecs use 19:49:10spiralmanmod_: ffmpeg is needed, and i dont know what else 19:49:26inomineis there still a manual install of xine libs required? 19:49:32inomineie untar 19:49:39spiralmaninomine: no 19:49:43spiralmaninomine: opie-mediaplayer-codecs is xine 19:49:53inominecool 19:49:59spiralmaninomine: op2 can play real video version 1 streams 19:50:18spiralmaninomine: not that anybody uses that codec anymore though 19:50:27mod_spiralman: where can i get ffmpeg for ipaq? 19:50:38inomineproblem is i have real media files that need v9 to play, and i have had no success to convert them to avi 19:50:47spiralmanmod_: should be in the familiar feed, but you may not need it 19:50:59spiralmanmod_: dont install it unless you have errors 19:51:15mod_spiralman: okk i check it thx 19:51:25spiralmanmod_: i dont seem to have it installed, so you may not need it 19:51:27spiralmanmod_: np 19:51:41inominei must commment that i did not to my knowledge need to install ffmpeg 19:52:58mod_spiralman: is there something which where updated today? 19:53:13spiralmanmod_: yeah, i think it was updated today 19:54:30mod_spiralman: and what ? 19:54:40spiralmanmod_: i dont know what all was updated 19:55:24jasonnjI just got invited to the coolest party 19:55:36mod_spiralman: thx 19:55:38jasonnjnow if I can only get my wife to let me go 20:01:04inominehmm weird wget refuses to dl opie player 2 20:02:01inomineok weirder ipkg refueses to send the correct url to wget 20:25:30numatrixanybody know if someone is actually dos'ing marknovak?  Reply to me in /msg if so, ibot watches all.  :-) 20:41:13Neo|Workto the best of my knowledge no one is but there's 83 ppl in #zaurus.. 21:22:23spiralmanis away: brb 21:46:19inominelo all 21:46:57inominejust installed latest ver of opie player2...it crashes on boot saying 'terminated' when booted from prompt 21:47:34inomineany ideas? 21:47:53mickeylhmm... you start it from the console? 21:48:12inominei tried after it kept crashing so as to get feedback from it 21:48:24mickeylOZ or retail rom? 21:48:27mickeylor ipaq? 21:48:32inomineipaq 21:48:36inomine3850 21:48:56mickeylhmm... set all the necessary variables? (QTDIR, OPIEDIR, LD_LIBRARY_PATH)`? 21:49:34inomineno idea its from the unstable feed... prev ver i had was ok 21:49:56mickeyldid you start the previous version also from the console? 21:50:04inomineno 21:50:18inomineit shows initially saying initializing then it exits 21:50:36mickeylinomine: hmm... to start _any_ opie app from the console, you have to set three environment variables 21:51:07inomineother apps start ok... 21:51:27mickeylfrom the console? k, then it's not the environment. 21:52:00inomineit starts shows the gui waits as it loads plugins and then terminates 21:52:25mickeylno idea then... ljp? 21:54:00Neo|Workis away: mtg 22:22:25spiralmanis back 22:32:17ljpwhat? 22:32:57ljplatest version as when? 22:35:51ljpanyone have the latest version of op2 and codec they want to email to me? 22:36:14spiralmanljp: its in the feed now 22:36:23spiralmanljp: but it crashes on me : ( 22:37:21ljphmm you also? 22:38:46spiralmanyeah 22:40:36ljpwhat happens when you run it from embeddedkonsole? 22:40:44ljpwhat message is last? 22:41:27spiralmanTerminated 22:42:05spiralmanit finds all the audio and video plugins and then says Terminated 22:42:19spiralmanis there a debug option? 22:42:32ljphmm 22:43:27ljpwhats the date on the file? 22:43:30ljpipkg 22:44:05spiralmanlet me check 22:46:01spiralman20020822 22:46:27spiralmanaccording to strace it segfaults 22:57:32spiralmanactually, in strace it seems to segfault before it crashes normally 23:04:54spiralmangotta go, later 23:06:39Neo|Workis back (gone 01:12:39) 23:18:08ljphmm crashes here also 23:31:27mickeylis leaving for a while... 23:44:49ljpI dont believe anyone who says they had op2 working on 5000d 23:44:59kergothheh 23:45:01kergothwhy 23:45:08ljpout of memory 23:45:14ljpand then opie crashes 23:45:33kergothfun 23:45:55ljpI think I have 24/12 23:47:35lars_gdrops on the channel with a thud 23:47:37lars_gOw 23:47:40lars_gHi everybody 23:47:43lars_gHow's life? 23:47:55lars_gHow are the ipaqs? (And the few adventurous Zaurus) 23:48:07lars_gWhy vanilla ice cream is white? 23:48:23ljphmmm good q 23:48:48ljpcause chocolate is brown and that color was taken first 23:48:53lars_gRight 23:49:07lars_gso ljp what's new? 23:49:12lars_gNew sotware? new packages? 23:49:15lars_gfixes maybe? 23:49:17lars_gcool stuff? 23:49:21ljpummm not much really.. op2 crashing 23:49:28lars_ga version of embedded konqueror that takes up only 1Kbyte? 23:49:33lars_gop2? 23:49:34ljpstill getting out of memory on z 5000d 23:49:40ljpopieplayer2 23:50:00lars_gHmm I might upgrade player to a non 2 newer version thanks for reminding me.... 23:50:07lars_gwhat does op2 has new? 23:50:22ljpdont do it yet.. the 8/22 and 8/21 version crash 23:50:28ljpit has xine backend 23:50:31lars_gOh btw I finally set up an efficient mp3 selecting system :) 23:50:35ljpdivx, ogg and other codecs 23:50:48ljphmm 23:51:13ljpalso waiting for a new license from Lineo so I can update this vercel's image 23:51:18lars_gno need for external help suddenly my ipaq is crashing on it's own, staretd today :( 23:51:27inodeanyone having problems with kde-3.0.3 & ksmserver ??? 23:51:28ljphmm not good 23:51:38inodegcc-3.2 23:51:51lars_gljp: started today I leave it idle on the base, charging, some what 30 40 minutes latter, it's crashed 23:52:17ljphmmm odd 23:52:20lars_gyes 23:52:24lars_ghas happent twice now 23:52:56lars_gSeems total crash, screen and ipaq urresponsive, usb network dies... plain crash, a simple reset boots all fine. 23:53:12lars_gIf it is a general system crash I don't see how I can reproduce it or log it to find the source 23:53:27lars_gmaybe if I let a ca /proc/kmsg open something will pop up before crash 23:53:46ljpbad hardware? 23:53:51lars_gdon't say so!!!! 23:53:54lars_gsniff 23:53:57lars_git's a cute ipaq 23:54:03ljpheh I dunno 23:54:13lars_ganyhow the start of the failure seems to coincide with my little opie-taskbar fiasco 23:54:19lars_gso I think it might be involved 23:54:30ljphmmmm 23:54:46lars_gso you say it is a bad idea to upgrade opieplayer 23:54:47lars_ghmmm 23:54:56ljptoday, yes 23:55:03lars_gany other things I could upgrade that are not so bad an idea? 23:55:29ljpprobably not.. but a few reports of op2 crashing... including my own tests 23:56:09lars_glibopie maybe? 23:56:30ljphmmmmm 23:56:46ljpmaybe its in use 23:56:46lars_gopieplayer != opie-mediaplayer ? 23:56:50ljpwhoops 23:57:07ljpya same thing.. theres two versions 23:57:26lars_ghow is opie-reader diferent to QtReader from zsi? 23:58:02ljpexact same 23:58:12lars_gWhat would you do if I ask things continually until you want to chew your paw off to run away? 23:58:26kergothi think he'd chew his paw off, to get away 23:58:28ljpignore you 23:58:29kergoth;-) 23:58:31kergothaw 23:58:34kergoththats boring 23:58:36lars_glol 23:58:37ljpheh 23:58:39kergothno blood or anything 23:58:42kergothblah brb
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