| 01:18:46 | Neo|Work | is away: home |
| 03:25:51 | spiralman | is back |
| 05:11:26 | Dilbert- | bye |
| 06:09:59 | Groucho | hiho there |
| 06:10:17 | Harlekin | hi |
| 08:03:23 | vnegrete | I just put my Opie in endless "file not found" loop trying to follow the Stowaway mod docs.. I'll reload it but wish there was a better way with my IPAQ 3835... Anyone? |
| 09:11:20 | Groucho | is away: at lunch time |
| 09:26:53 | Wire103 | are the zaurus ipkg's compatible with |
| 09:26:57 | Wire103 | the ipaq?? |
| 09:49:48 | Nermal_Work | Wire103: should be |
| 10:12:14 | Groucho | is back |
| 10:12:17 | Groucho | re |
| 10:14:54 | Groucho | Wire103: They are indeed compatible |
| 11:30:35 | gogo | hi |
| 11:31:36 | Groucho | hi |
| 11:32:10 | gogo | i just try to compile opie for x86 and get a simple error, it seems that the method trUtf8 is only used in library/passwordbase_p.cpp and there i get that error, `trUtf8' undeclared (first use this function) |
| 11:33:33 | gogo | oh, it's a ui file, sorry, hmm |
| 11:33:59 | gogo | so i can't use uic from qt 3? |
| 11:40:06 | Groucho | gogo: No, you cant. I wnated to point this out before youd it yourself ;-) |
| 11:40:31 | gogo | Groucho: NOTE: Make sure that you're using uic 2.3.2 not 3.x |
| 11:40:37 | gogo | ups, i miessed that part,) |
| 11:40:54 | gogo | Groucho: so could you send me uic ftom qt 3.2? |
| 11:41:48 | spiralman | gogo: its in the qt 2.3.2 embedded source |
| 11:41:52 | Groucho | gogo: I dont have it at hand currently, sorry. You must have qt-2.3.2 anyway |
| 11:42:16 | Groucho | gogo: $QTDIR/tools/designer if i recall ... |
| 11:43:08 | gogo | ah! |
| 11:50:16 | gogo | argh, hmm, error, i give up |
| 11:56:10 | | toolchain is probably at http://handhelds.org/z/wiki/Toolchains |
| 11:56:10 | spiralman | ibot toolchain |
| 12:01:28 | bipolar | zecke: ping |
| 12:01:48 | Groucho | bipolar: heyia |
| 12:02:10 | bipolar | Groucho: good morning (or afternoon...) :) |
| 12:07:22 | Groucho | Yeah, afternoon, that's it. |
| 12:14:22 | bipolar | Does anyone have any good reasons why we should keep developing our own Calender and Todo list when korganizer/e is out? |
| 12:15:37 | bipolar | korg/e does not seem to integrate well with onboard data sources, but that can be fixed. |
| 12:15:43 | Groucho_1 | Yes- korganizer is imho too bloated and confueses the user with too many details. And it is large |
| 12:16:15 | Groucho_1 | s/large/huge |
| 12:16:20 | bipolar | heh |
| 12:16:31 | bipolar | yeah... 500k is pretty big. |
| 12:16:41 | bipolar | it does seem to load quickly though. |
| 12:16:49 | bipolar | even off an SD card. |
| 12:18:23 | Groucho_1 | However you are right- I will give it a shot again :-) |
| 12:18:49 | spiralman | hrm, if its 500k, dont use it, please |
| 12:18:58 | spiralman | not as a part of opie, anyway |
| 12:19:06 | bipolar | spiralman: it does replace two packages though. |
| 12:19:09 | spiralman | not saying you cant use it, but dont switch opie over to it... |
| 12:19:46 | bipolar | I'm not sure If I'm going to use it full time yet or not. Just looking for opinions on it. |
| 12:20:18 | spiralman | also, does it interoperate with today? |
| 12:20:33 | bipolar | spiralman: I doubt that. I'll check. |
| 12:20:34 | Groucho_1 | yes and it replaces two packages at once on one tiny screen :-) |
| 12:20:50 | bipolar | Groucho_1: yeah... :) good point |
| 12:21:23 | Groucho_1 | if the views could be separated... |
| 12:21:27 | bipolar | Groucho_1: you can hide the minicalender and todo though. |
| 12:21:37 | spiralman | bipolar: not to mention, if we are going to be switching to a db before 1.0, wed have to port korganiser to the same db, which the kde PIM folks may not want... |
| 12:21:56 | bipolar | spiralman: yeah... another good point. |
| 12:22:24 | spiralman | btw, how are we going to keep sync capability when we make the switch to db? |
| 12:22:49 | bipolar | spiralman: using xml files as a kind of pipe. thats the idea I got. |
| 12:23:14 | Groucho_1 | spiralman: With some sort of compatibility layer which transforms the data into xml |
| 12:23:21 | spiralman | ahh, ok cool |
| 12:25:38 | spiralman | i was thinking it would be along those lines, just curious what was going on... |
| 12:26:35 | bipolar | I guess it is best to develop our own apps. korg/e needs too much work and it's not integrated enough. It's a cool app though. |
| 12:27:07 | spiralman | yeah, its a nice idea, and the microkde that was created for it is a convinient thing for helping port stuff |
| 12:27:40 | spiralman | would be nice if it was separated though, so it would be easier to add stuff onto it (as long as it doesnt make it much bigger) |
| 12:28:08 | bipolar | god... oipkg is S-L-O-W... |
| 12:28:53 | spiralman | the later versions are a lot faster than it used to be |
| 12:29:10 | spiralman | it used to take a good minute to start up |
| 12:30:06 | bipolar | jeez.... why? |
| 12:30:21 | spiralman | i think it called ipkg update each time it started |
| 12:30:27 | spiralman | maybe some other stuff |
| 12:34:25 | ljp_ | heh cvs diff is wonderful sometimes.. ;) |
| 12:35:21 | bipolar | I have an Idea for an input method. |
| 12:36:16 | bipolar | It would be cool to have one with JUST numbers and commonly used symbols. That way you don't have to mess around with the FN key when filling out IP addresses and the such. |
| 12:36:46 | bipolar | perhaps just one jkey high so it does not use much screen space. |
| 12:37:22 | spiralman | there is a graphing/calculator app that has one like that |
| 12:37:36 | Groucho | According to my latest tests (now :-) is korge refinitely not very usable- too big, too slow (try it with the acqua theme) and too much space wasted. |
| 12:37:41 | spiralman | well, its actually got about 5-10 tabs in the input method, but one of them is like that |
| 12:37:48 | Groucho | s/refinitely/definitely |
| 12:38:21 | Groucho | bipolar: You mean something like a phone dialing pad |
| 12:38:53 | bipolar | Groucho: um... not that big though. more like the top row of the keyboard. |
| 12:39:16 | Groucho | would find it cool if there would be a 3 letter choice below the numbers- just like on the phone |
| 12:56:27 | bowser | Who is developing the image viewer? |
| 12:56:37 | spiralman | nobody |
| 12:56:55 | spiralman | it needs to be completely rewritten |
| 12:57:05 | bowser | spiralman: why? |
| 12:57:11 | pattieja | morning |
| 12:57:44 | spiralman | bowser: because its design is flawed. basically, it will only show images that QT can show. |
| 12:57:45 | ljp_ | actually. I forget who, _is_ working ion it, and will have a patch shortly |
| 12:58:28 | spiralman | what ever happened to using mooview? |
| 12:59:11 | ljp_ | he declined |
| 12:59:22 | spiralman | ahh, ok |
| 12:59:35 | bowser | so.. will there be a new version soon or... has somebody to patch it or... what will happen? |
| 12:59:51 | ljp_ | slight update |
| 13:00:24 | Groucho | ok, I am off |
| 13:00:41 | Groucho | is on his way to the dentist |
| 13:01:12 | Groucho | cu |
| 13:02:04 | bowser | ljp: who will make that? |
| 13:02:46 | ljp_ | hmmm I forget his nick at the moment |
| 13:03:37 | bowser | ljp: OK no prob, but i have a few "improvement-tipps" :-) |
| 13:04:34 | bipolar | anyone know how to get sed to replace & with & in a text file? |
| 13:08:44 | ljp_ | bipolar: type sed- do yo duty :) |
| 13:09:39 | ejdmoo | quick question...what happens to files sent through IRDA? |
| 13:09:51 | ejdmoo | err, recieved |
| 13:10:44 | spiralman | i dont know for sure, but id imagine they would end up in ~/Documents |
| 13:10:46 | bipolar | ljp_: I'm trying to understand the man page, but I just dont get it. It does not help that I have a bad cold. |
| 13:10:56 | ejdmoo | spiral: nope... |
| 13:11:16 | bipolar | spiralman: ejdmoo: I wish. Last time I did a rcv, it ended up in /tmp. :p |
| 13:11:40 | spiralman | hrm, /tmp isnt a bad place for it, but it would be nice if it let you decide where to save it |
| 13:12:05 | ejdmoo | i have no /tmp |
| 13:12:22 | bowser | cu later |
| 13:12:23 | spiralman | ejdmoo: you have to enable symlinks in the filemanager to see /tmp |
| 13:12:28 | spiralman | bowser: later |
| 13:12:33 | ejdmoo | oh yah |
| 13:12:34 | ejdmoo | thx |
| 13:13:24 | spiralman | why is that option even in the filemanger? who would **not** want to see symlinks? and they should be viewable by default, even if you dont take the feature out... |
| 13:15:28 | ljp_ | advancedfm |
| 13:15:47 | spiralman | hrm, wasnt really ready last i tried it |
| 13:16:12 | ljp_ | well, try it and tell met bugs you find so I can improve it |
| 13:16:19 | spiralman | ok, i will |
| 13:16:30 | ljp_ | except.. I _just_ fixed some major stuff in cvs |
| 13:16:41 | ljp_ | so use that one if you can |
| 13:16:57 | spiralman | i think my main problem though may have been just that it was more than i wanted in a filemanger. but that sounds cool, ill have to give it a try |
| 13:17:22 | ejdmoo | one thing i've noticed is the right click mechanism isnt consistant... |
| 13:21:28 | spiralman | ljp_: much nicer, but a few things |
| 13:21:40 | spiralman | ljp_: where does the cf card icon take you? |
| 13:21:46 | spiralman | also, a button to / would be nice... |
| 13:21:56 | ljp_ | to /mnt/cf |
| 13:22:07 | spiralman | hrm |
| 13:22:14 | spiralman | on familiar its /mnt/hda |
| 13:22:21 | spiralman | : ) |
| 13:22:23 | ejdmoo | what about samba browsing? |
| 13:22:29 | ljp_ | and sd to /mnt/card, which I should probably hide those if they arent available |
| 13:22:37 | ljp_ | oh ok.. will do |
| 13:22:38 | spiralman | ejdmoo: just mount the smb share with smbmount |
| 13:23:04 | spiralman | ejdmoo: then its just like any other directory |
| 13:23:27 | spiralman | ejdmoo: browsing a network though, is something that should probably be in another app (in my opinion anyway) |
| 13:23:33 | ejdmoo | yeah' |
| 13:23:41 | ejdmoo | well, maybe |
| 13:23:56 | ejdmoo | except if you want to move from the network to the handheld |
| 13:24:02 | ejdmoo | move/copy |
| 13:24:41 | spiralman | ejdmoo: well, it would have a "mount" option, and then youd use the filebrowser to move the stuff |
| 13:24:52 | ejdmoo | yah |
| 13:24:54 | spiralman | ejdmoo: maybe even open the file browser to the mountpoint upon mount |
| 13:25:20 | ejdmoo | spiral: what would be nice would be to have a button for easy mounting of the samba share |
| 13:26:04 | spiralman | hrm, seems like a pretty easy application if you use one of the samba browsing libs |
| 13:26:38 | spiralman | http://nicolas.brodu.free.fr/libsmb/ |
| 13:30:09 | spiralman | hrm, that looks pretty old though |
| 13:30:36 | kergoth | hey |
| 13:30:53 | spiralman | hey |
| 13:31:02 | ljp_ | what's the device name for cf on ipaq? |
| 13:31:25 | spiralman | ljp_: /dev/hd* |
| 13:31:26 | kergoth | okay am I the only one who's left arrow in drw's tabwidget doesnt work? |
| 13:31:58 | spiralman | kergoth: works fine for me... |
| 13:32:04 | kergoth | gah |
| 13:32:06 | ljp_ | hehe |
| 13:32:10 | kergoth | i JUST built from cvs yesterday |
| 13:32:12 | kergoth | flashed my Z |
| 13:32:15 | kergoth | and the arrow doesnt work |
| 13:32:18 | kergoth | its annoying as hell |
| 13:32:25 | ljp_ | and it still doesnt work? |
| 13:32:53 | kergoth | still doesnt |
| 13:32:54 | kergoth | its weird |
| 13:33:58 | ljp_ | very odd |
| 13:35:23 | kergoth | yeah |
| 13:35:30 | kergoth | course it doesnt matter, cause i can still get to the first tabs |
| 13:35:39 | kergoth | by clicking on them slowly to the left.. they expand and slide me over |
| 13:35:47 | kergoth | just struck me as odd |
| 13:35:58 | ejdmoo | you guys have all seen this, right? |
| 13:35:59 | ejdmoo | http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/dasher/ |
| 13:37:16 | Nermal_Work | yup |
| 13:38:03 | ljp_ | ya.. headachy |
| 13:38:08 | spiralman | ejdmoo: an interesting idea, but it looks like a pain for typing stuff thats a) not in the dictionary or b) doesnt follow their natural language model |
| 13:38:47 | spiralman | would be a bitch to code in, where you often use abreviations for variables and such |
| 13:39:18 | ejdmoo | coding, no...but emailing, hell yes |
| 13:39:33 | ejdmoo | ive played with it on my desktop...it's so easy |
| 13:41:31 | ejdmoo | the only drawback is it has to run full screen |
| 13:42:34 | spiralman | the other thing is that with a stylus, you want to avoid "dragging" motions... |
| 13:44:58 | ejdmoo | you'd have to adapt it a little better for a stylus so the stylus wouldn't always be dragging... |
| 13:45:30 | bipolar | well, at least now I can dump my Zaurus address book into KAddressBook. |
| 13:46:21 | bipolar | zecke: ping |
| 14:42:02 | hash | dang |
| 14:42:09 | hash | those korean fonts and input methods are closed source |
| 14:42:21 | hash | opie'll just have to use mine ^_^ |
| 14:42:48 | hash | i'll package the font's at a later point in time... |
| 14:47:52 | hash | i'm going to bed... |
| 16:06:04 | Neo|Work | is back (gone 14:47:20) |
| 16:08:35 | | Harlekin was last seen on #zaurus 1 hours, 29 minutes and 23 seconds ago, saying: JasonNJ: but TT wanted to rip some more stuff out [Tue Aug 6 15:39:12 2002] |
| 16:08:35 | zecke | ibot seen Harlekin |
| 16:36:18 | gogo | i get an error when compiling opie/core/applets/cardmon/cardmon.cpp |
| 16:36:33 | gogo | localhost:~/opie/core/applets/cardmon$ cvs diff |
| 16:36:33 | gogo | cvs server: Diffing . |
| 16:36:33 | gogo | Index: cardmon.cpp |
| 16:36:33 | gogo | =================================================================== |
| 16:36:33 | gogo | RCS file: /usr/cvs/opie/core/applets/cardmon/cardmon.cpp,v |
| 16:36:35 | gogo | retrieving revision 1.9 |
| 16:36:38 | gogo | diff -r1.9 cardmon.cpp |
| 16:36:41 | gogo | 68c68 |
| 16:36:43 | gogo | < void CardMonitor::popUp( QString message, QString icon = QString::null ) { |
| 16:36:46 | gogo | --- |
| 16:36:48 | gogo | > void CardMonitor::popUp( QString message, QString icon ) { |
| 16:36:51 | gogo | localhost:~/opie/core/applets/cardmon$ |
| 16:42:28 | spiralman | gogo: thats cvs output. whats the error that you get? |
| 16:43:27 | gogo | mom, i will change back,) |
| 16:46:33 | gogo | localhost:~/opie/core/applets/cardmon$ make |
| 16:46:33 | gogo | g++ -c -I/home/opie/qt-2.3.2/include -pipe -DQWS -fno-exceptions -fno-rtti -O2 -fno-default-inline -Wall -W -fPIC -I/home/opie/opie//include -o cardmon.o cardmon.cpp |
| 16:46:36 | gogo | cardmon.cpp:68: default argument given for parameter 2 of `void CardMonitor::popUp(QString, QString = QString::null)' |
| 16:46:39 | gogo | cardmon.h:54: after previous specification in `void CardMonitor::popUp(QString, QString = QString::null)' |
| 16:46:42 | gogo | make: *** [cardmon.o] Error 1 |
| 16:46:44 | gogo | gcc 3.1 |
| 16:46:48 | spiralman | ahh |
| 16:47:05 | spiralman | you cant specify a default in the definition and the implementation |
| 16:47:16 | spiralman | i think you are supposed to just do it in the implementation |
| 16:47:53 | benmeyer | is ftp enabled by default on opie? |
| 16:48:27 | kergoth | benmeyer: port 4242 is blocked out of the box until you run opie-security to set ip/mask that are allowed to connect to it |
| 16:48:28 | spiralman | no, i think you need the security app to turn it on, not sure though |
| 16:48:31 | kergoth | yeah |
| 16:49:20 | benmeyer | eh either way scp works :-D |
| 16:49:29 | benmeyer | hahahah |
| 16:49:57 | benmeyer | An anautheorixed system 8is requesting acces ot this decice, if yo7u are using a version of qtopia older then 1.51 please upgrade |
| 16:49:58 | benmeyer | hehe |
| 16:50:08 | benmeyer | there is only a Deny button |
| 16:50:12 | benmeyer | I want to allow |
| 16:50:16 | benmeyer | who made this button??? |
| 16:50:20 | treke | benmeyer: there is a patch |
| 16:50:26 | benmeyer | can anyone say dos attach |
| 16:50:27 | benmeyer | hehe |
| 16:51:18 | benmeyer | uggg |
| 16:51:24 | benmeyer | I just got 30 of those dialog boxes |
| 16:51:27 | benmeyer | have to reboot it nwo |
| 16:51:54 | kergoth | benmeyer: you dont get allow when the password was blank |
| 16:51:56 | treke | http://treke.net/downloads/launcher.diff |
| 16:52:05 | kergoth | benmeyer: you need zecke's patch that treke just linked to, to allow empty password |
| 16:52:16 | treke | you still get the popup box whenever you connect, but there will be an allow button |
| 16:52:37 | treke | hopes that isnt the long term solution |
| 16:52:44 | kergoth | benmeyer: i've seen it freeze the Z also |
| 16:52:50 | kergoth | treke: iirc it caches host information |
| 16:52:56 | treke | kergoth: it doesnt |
| 16:52:59 | kergoth | treke: but i dont think it does when the password is empty |
| 16:53:02 | zecke | treke: ssh tunnel + root password = real solution? |
| 16:53:09 | kergoth | ah |
| 16:53:54 | treke | zecke: might work on linux, but it doesnt help much for syncing with outlook |
| 16:54:40 | kergoth | treke: it would with the right app in windows :-) |
| 16:54:53 | kergoth | treke: course i dunno about you, but i dont feel like trying to write a windows sync app |
| 16:54:53 | kergoth | heh |
| 16:54:55 | benmeyer | you know what is really anoying? |
| 16:55:08 | treke | kergoth: I sure as hell dont :) |
| 16:55:11 | benmeyer | When you run out of space you can't _uninstall_ anything because it can't open the status information |
| 16:55:26 | zecke | treke: putty is a ssh client for windows? |
| 16:55:37 | treke | zecke: yes it is |
| 16:55:37 | kergoth | benmeyer: dont run that low. jffs2 needs a small amount of space for garbage collection |
| 16:55:49 | zecke | treke: and openssh should be able to be compiled with cygwin.... |
| 16:56:40 | kergoth | zecke: openssh works great in cygwin :-) |
| 16:56:46 | kergoth | zecke: but its not easy for the end user of course |
| 16:59:50 | benmeyer | what is the current opie? |
| 16:59:56 | benmeyer | I have .9-1-snapshot |
| 17:02:57 | spiralman | benmeyer: if its from opie.info its as current as you are gonna get |
| 17:02:58 | zecke | kergoth: yeah but intellisync should use it for port forwarding and thats it |
| 17:09:09 | benmeyer | hmmm |
| 17:09:18 | benmeyer | Opera isn't working |
| 17:09:23 | benmeyer | wonder why... |
| 17:09:36 | benmeyer | Anyone gotten opera to work in oz/ |
| 17:09:37 | benmeyer | ? |
| 18:00:07 | tid-wave | hello ! |
| 18:00:33 | spiralman | hey |
| 18:21:11 | ejdmoo | wow arent we an exciting crowd? |
| 18:22:13 | kergoth | ohh yeah |
| 18:22:14 | kergoth | can you handle it/ |
| 18:22:41 | treke | ejdmoo: its monday, of course we're excited |
| 18:22:57 | benmeyer | eh, Tuesday here |
| 18:22:59 | ljp_ | uhh itzs tuesday |
| 18:23:12 | kergoth | hehe |
| 18:23:32 | treke | shoots himself |
| 18:23:44 | ejdmoo | wonders why he asked |
| 18:29:52 | ejdmoo | hey does anyone else experience serious problems with the time? |
| 18:30:06 | spiralman | what problems? |
| 18:30:16 | ejdmoo | it always resets itself |
| 18:30:29 | spiralman | when you reboot? yeah, familiar issue, i believe |
| 18:30:44 | ejdmoo | reboot opie or linux? |
| 18:30:48 | spiralman | linux |
| 18:30:49 | treke | ejdmoo: yup. I lose about 10 seconds per hour |
| 18:31:10 | ejdmoo | oh mine's worse than that |
| 18:31:18 | jamey | hi all |
| 18:31:21 | spiralman | jamey: hey |
| 18:31:24 | ejdmoo | hi |
| 18:31:48 | jamey | Harlekin or sandman or zecke online? |
| 18:32:32 | ljp_ | hmm they seem to be logged in, but probably away.. what do you need? |
| 18:33:11 | bowser | zecke is online |
| 18:36:59 | zecke | hi jamey |
| 18:38:55 | jamey | hi zecke |
| 18:39:22 | jamey | just wondering how things are going with opie and if there is an estimate for when opie is ready for a 0.6 release of familiar |
| 18:39:28 | jamey | no hurry |
| 18:40:06 | zecke | jamey: OpieLogin is working. And sandman enabled loggin out of the launcher too |
| 18:40:13 | jamey | cool |
| 18:40:19 | zecke | jamey: but I was away the recent days.... |
| 18:40:44 | jamey | let me know when I should update the opie bits in 0.6-pre1 |
| 18:41:15 | zecke | jamey: Ok |
| 18:41:31 | spiralman | does the fam opie feed mirror the opie.info feed? |
| 18:41:48 | zecke | I don't think so |
| 18:41:54 | jamey | spiralman: yes, in 0.6-pre1/opie/armv4l |
| 18:42:02 | zecke | jamey: you do know the feed from www.opie.info? |
| 18:42:12 | jamey | it doesn't update automatically, I did a wget |
| 18:42:15 | jamey | from opie.info |
| 18:42:44 | ljp_ | opie.handhelds.org is going to have a mirror feed |
| 18:43:15 | ljp_ | for both ipaq and zaurus versions |
| 18:43:19 | spiralman | jamey: might be best to just auto mirror it if possible, since we havent been making stable releases for a while now |
| 18:44:08 | spiralman | not that there ever were "stable" releases |
| 18:45:41 | spiralman | (somebody correct me if im wrong) |
| 18:46:04 | ljp_ | stable is in the mind |
| 18:46:43 | jamey | sounds like I should update 0.6-pre1 from opie.info and see if it is stable |
| 18:48:25 | ljp_ | should I even add an opie mirror feed to opie.handhelds, if your are also going to do it? |
| 18:48:55 | spiralman | ljp_: yes, because people still know to look there for packages somehow |
| 18:49:08 | spiralman | ljp_: even though i cant find anything on the opie sites that points to it anymore... |
| 18:50:29 | jamey | ljp_: opie.handhelds.org should be continuously updated, whereas I will freeze 0.6-pre1 when I release it, except for hot fixes |
| 18:50:52 | jamey | ipkgfind still index opie.handhelds.org doesn't it? |
| 18:51:01 | spiralman | yeah, it does |
| 18:51:43 | ljp_ | hmmm |
| 18:51:44 | spiralman | the thing about freezing 0.6 opie feed is its just a random snapshot of the development process, its not at any particular point in its developement where a release would be made... |
| 18:52:53 | ljp_ | I'll update the opie.handhelds feed tonight |
| 18:54:35 | zecke | hi Max |
| 18:54:44 | tux_mike | zecke |
| 18:55:12 | tux_mike | you were saying earlier you got opie to build with qt3 and gcc3? |
| 18:55:12 | zecke | hi tux_mike |
| 18:55:35 | zecke | tux_mike: yes for ARM yes but my desktop is borked with gcc3 |
| 18:55:49 | tux_mike | what modifications did you do? |
| 18:56:06 | zecke | tux_mike: It links against the wrong ld-linux and segfaults on dlopen |
| 18:56:38 | tux_mike | i was thinking of seeing how well it works for arm :) |
| 18:56:39 | zecke | tux_mike: some includes, new textwidget for textedit, RegExps..... |
| 18:57:45 | zecke | tux_mike: I mounted over nfs |
| 18:57:56 | zecke | tux_mike: and plugins did not work |
| 18:58:00 | tux_mike | hrm |
| 18:58:02 | tux_mike | k |
| 18:58:07 | tux_mike | so it's starting to work :) |
| 18:58:09 | jamey | spiralman: that's why I'm asking about the state of things. I know it's not an opie release, but if there are stable opie bits I think it's worth freezing as a release. |
| 18:59:26 | spiralman | jamey: hrm, ok |
| 19:00:11 | Harlekin | hi jamey |
| 19:00:18 | spiralman | jamey: i can verify that opie-sh is stable and opie-remote and opie-ubrowser arent, as those are "my" apps |
| 19:00:24 | Harlekin | hi all |
| 19:00:29 | spiralman | Harlekin: hey |
| 19:02:32 | Harlekin | jamey: before 0.6 release |
| 19:02:37 | ejdmoo | spiralman: wow...you do remote? nice SW :) |
| 19:02:40 | Harlekin | there is one issue with our new suspend code |
| 19:02:52 | Harlekin | sandman|away: looked at it yet? |
| 19:02:52 | spiralman | ejdmoo: thanks. needs an irrecord frontend though... |
| 19:03:16 | ejdmoo | well, yeah, does need some work...i just wish my iPaq had a stronger IR |
| 19:03:29 | spiralman | ejdmoo: its sorta half in there actually, just need to get OProcess to work right now |
| 19:03:31 | Harlekin | ejdmoo: 39xx |
| 19:03:45 | ejdmoo | Harlekin: ha...me have $$? |
| 19:04:15 | jamey | hi Harlekin |
| 19:04:43 | jamey | it's ok, linux doesn't run on 39xx yet anyway |
| 19:05:03 | ejdmoo | true...can't you get a mod and change the ir bulbs? |
| 19:05:07 | jamey | spiralman: certainly |
| 19:05:10 | ejdmoo | err, leds...or whatever they are |
| 19:07:09 | Harlekin | jamey: maybe wait with 0.6 until tomorrow evening |
| 19:07:47 | ejdmoo | wait...0.6 is being released tomorrow (maybe)? i just started w/this for the first time 2 days ago |
| 19:08:04 | jamey | Harlekin: no problem. I'm not quite ready to freeze it. my plan is to update the opie bits when you tell me, build new bootopie, test for a few days, then call it a release. |
| 19:08:12 | jamey | I'm in no particular hurry. |
| 19:08:19 | Harlekin | same here 2 i am using familiar 0.6 pre1 with the latest opie |
| 19:08:19 | Harlekin | unstable after a call to apm --suspend the power button works |
| 19:08:19 | Harlekin | ok ... |
| 19:08:19 | Harlekin | I installed apmd_3.0final-1-fam2_arm.ipk |
| 19:08:19 | Harlekin | but this gave a postinstall 1 error |
| 19:08:22 | Harlekin | " " |
| 19:08:35 | Harlekin | "A call of apm --suspend seems to create the device apm_bios (major is |
| 19:08:36 | Harlekin | 10, minor 134), which is deleted on reboot. |
| 19:08:37 | Harlekin | " |
| 19:08:41 | Harlekin | from our mailinglist |
| 19:08:55 | Harlekin | we now try to use the dev directly |
| 19:09:37 | jamey | the apm device may need some tweaknig. let me know if you have problems. |
| 19:09:41 | spiralman | perhaps apm --suspend is loading a module that doesnt get added to modules.conf |
| 19:10:06 | Harlekin | jamey: we have problems |
| 19:10:13 | Harlekin | jamey: seems not to be there after boot |
| 19:10:23 | jamey | Harlekin: oh, modprobe apmd ? |
| 19:10:32 | Harlekin | not manually |
| 19:10:44 | Harlekin | callinh apm --suspend helps |
| 19:10:47 | Harlekin | did not look into it |
| 19:10:52 | Harlekin | since i was not at home today |
| 19:11:37 | spiralman | it sounds like the issue is that the apm module is not getting loaded on boot, but the apm program must check and load it if its not loaded |
| 19:12:03 | Harlekin | has 38,4 ° fever |
| 19:12:06 | Harlekin | cannot think |
| 19:17:14 | jamey | Harlekin: better get some rest |
| 19:17:30 | Harlekin | think so too |
| 19:17:31 | ljp_ | and drink juice |
| 19:17:41 | ljp_ | or water |
| 19:17:49 | ljp_ | no beer |
| 19:17:51 | Harlekin | ljp_: i do |
| 19:17:52 | Harlekin | hehe |
| 19:17:53 | ejdmoo | Harlekin says "rest is for the--" then collapses |
| 19:18:02 | Harlekin | ejdmoo: nono |
| 19:18:11 | Harlekin | paramedic. I know that is it not funny |
| 19:18:21 | Harlekin | just wanted to do a quick check what happend teh day |
| 19:18:53 | ljp_ | got a vercel board today |
| 19:19:41 | Harlekin | nice |
| 19:19:43 | Harlekin | ljp_: photos |
| 19:20:02 | ljp_ | not together ->http://llornkcor.com/screenshots/MVC-569F.JPG |
| 19:20:05 | Harlekin | ljp_: could you look into pause and fullscreen and next key in op2 gui? |
| 19:20:15 | ljp_ | http://llornkcor.com/screenshots/MVC-571F.JPG |
| 19:20:32 | tid-wave | Harlekin: you said that someone is developing a new image viewer...when will be that available ? |
| 19:20:42 | ljp_ | yes.. I was looking into that today.. and I dont even see how it works.. or is supposed too |
| 19:20:43 | treke | thats not exactly what I was expecting from the vercel :) |
| 19:20:55 | ljp_ | hehe prototype |
| 19:21:27 | ljp_ | and I need to figure out how to get it to boot |
| 19:21:28 | Harlekin | tid-wave: hmm |
| 19:21:31 | Harlekin | tid-wave: let me check |
| 19:27:28 | benmeyer | ugg |
| 19:27:42 | Harlekin | benmeyer: how is netsetup doing? |
| 19:27:48 | benmeyer | kergoth`gone: my SD slot doesn't work in the latest opie |
| 19:27:50 | benmeyer | oz I mean |
| 19:28:01 | benmeyer | good got libs working finally |
| 19:28:07 | benmeyer | will finish it after linux world |
| 19:28:12 | benmeyer | very busy till then |
| 19:28:16 | Harlekin | k |
| 19:28:26 | Harlekin | benmeyer: commit meanwhile |
| 19:28:37 | Harlekin | so not somebody starts working on it |
| 19:28:38 | benmeyer | ok |
| 19:28:40 | Harlekin | without telling |
| 19:28:49 | Harlekin | like it happend to imageviewer |
| 19:28:58 | Harlekin | to few people to do work double |
| 19:29:00 | benmeyer | with mooo? |
| 19:29:00 | Harlekin | .-) |
| 19:29:34 | ejdmoo | moo? |
| 19:29:52 | tid-wave | master of orion :) |
| 19:29:55 | ejdmoo | heard his name...err part of it |
| 19:30:10 | Harlekin | benmeyer: no, the mooo author did not wanted to |
| 19:30:11 | benmeyer | mooview |
| 19:30:17 | Harlekin | benmeyer: but warmi did it |
| 19:30:23 | Harlekin | no idea who knew that |
| 19:32:36 | ejdmoo | quick but important opie suggestion: dont make the default screen backlight 100%...i was really wondering what made my ipaq so hot... |
| 19:32:54 | tid-wave | ejdmoo:it wasn't the backlight ! |
| 19:33:08 | ejdmoo | tid-wave:no it had to have benn |
| 19:33:10 | ejdmoo | *been |
| 19:33:17 | ejdmoo | because i turned it down, and it was fine |
| 19:33:27 | tid-wave | ejdmoo no |
| 19:33:36 | tid-wave | ejdmoo it's becauseyou installed a lot of apps |
| 19:33:44 | tid-wave | turn it on |
| 19:33:47 | tid-wave | to maximum |
| 19:33:53 | tid-wave | and see it's nothing |
| 19:35:19 | bowser | Harlekin: So bluetooth won't be available within the next 2 weeks, right? |
| 19:36:10 | tid-wave | in windows CE i had an Automatic option tu turn on and off the light....opie doesn't use the light sensor |
| 19:36:23 | Harlekin | bowser: not until benmeyer finishes netsetup |
| 19:37:12 | tid-wave | i wonder if an automatic option will be available to tune the light |
| 19:37:31 | benmeyer | Harlekin, how much of a finished do you want? |
| 19:37:31 | ejdmoo | i think it was a combination of the two...the front side of my ipaq is getting warmer |
| 19:37:39 | benmeyer | I can replace what is currently there in a week |
| 19:37:45 | benmeyer | but to get all of the stuff done |
| 19:37:51 | bowser | Harlekin: What does netsetup exatly do? |
| 19:37:57 | benmeyer | ppp over ir plugin is pretty low on the list :-D |
| 19:37:58 | benmeyer | etc |
| 19:38:10 | benmeyer | 802.11 tcpip is just about done |
| 19:38:19 | benmeyer | next is tcpip lan |
| 19:38:26 | ejdmoo | bowser:i was wondering the same thing ;) |
| 19:38:27 | benmeyer | then usb tcpip then usb pp |
| 19:38:28 | benmeyer | etc |
| 19:38:38 | benmeyer | I will commit shortly |
| 19:38:40 | benmeyer | so you can see |
| 19:38:42 | benmeyer | :-D |
| 19:38:48 | tid-wave | how much does a wireless card for the ipaq cost ? |
| 19:39:01 | ejdmoo | 80USD... |
| 19:39:08 | ejdmoo | about |
| 19:39:19 | tid-wave | that's for the handheld |
| 19:39:23 | tid-wave | and for the desktop PC ? |
| 19:39:29 | ejdmoo | basically the same |
| 19:39:44 | ejdmoo | all you need is a PCI->PCMCIA card |
| 19:39:59 | Harlekin | bowser: config the devices bluetooth manager brough up |
| 19:40:06 | ejdmoo | noone sells straight up wireless PCI |
| 19:40:10 | tid-wave | and what about power consumption ? |
| 19:40:32 | ejdmoo | well, for the iPaq, the PCMCIA sleeve has an extra battery |
| 19:40:39 | ejdmoo | so i see basically no difference |
| 19:40:50 | benmeyer | ugg |
| 19:40:58 | benmeyer | I can't even install a 1.7MB file on oz |
| 19:41:01 | benmeyer | it ran out of room |
| 19:41:03 | benmeyer | sigh |
| 19:41:29 | bowser | oz=openzaurus? |
| 19:43:13 | Harlekin | n8 |
| 19:43:39 | ejdmoo | is there a way to specify a root imap folder? i dont want to download all my web folders from the server too. |
| 19:45:01 | ejdmoo | windows ce's mail client has the same problem |
| 19:45:01 | tid-wave | HEY |
| 19:45:10 | tid-wave | i can't power on my ipaq |
| 19:45:13 | tid-wave | i've set an alarm |
| 19:45:21 | ejdmoo | wow that sucks... |
| 19:45:22 | tid-wave | and it suspended |
| 19:45:38 | tid-wave | and now if i press the button |
| 19:45:44 | tid-wave | it turns on |
| 19:45:46 | tid-wave | and then off |
| 19:45:49 | bowser | tid-wave: I don't have any problems with it... |
| 19:45:59 | tid-wave | and i don't hear the sound |
| 19:46:03 | tid-wave | and i don't hear the sound |
| 19:49:42 | tid-wave | do i have to install some lib in order to hear something ? |
| 19:50:09 | bowser | tid-wave: You've got fam0.6 right? |
| 19:50:12 | bowser | The opie image? |
| 19:50:43 | tid-wave | yes |
| 19:50:46 | tid-wave | 0.6 opie image |
| 19:50:57 | bowser | it should work |
| 19:50:58 | bowser | ... |
| 19:51:04 | tid-wave | do you hear something ? |
| 19:51:12 | bowser | yes of course |
| 19:51:16 | tid-wave | do you have the sound click enable ? |
| 19:51:23 | tid-wave | err |
| 19:51:24 | bowser | alarm, irDA, Parashoot |
| 19:51:33 | bowser | Ah jep |
| 19:51:36 | bowser | thats a bug |
| 19:51:52 | bowser | or it has been one in 0.5.2 |
| 19:51:53 | tid-wave | so i have to enable sound when key pressed right ? |
| 19:52:15 | bowser | But.. it shouldn't be in 0.6 |
| 19:52:17 | bowser | wait |
| 19:52:22 | bowser | i'll check it |
| 19:52:49 | bowser | tid-wave: I've had that problem with the screen tabs.. |
| 19:52:54 | tid-wave | well it's f**** up...i can't turn on my ipaq until the snooze time has run out |
| 19:53:27 | bowser | tid-wave:Sorry here it works.... |
| 19:53:36 | bowser | which iPAQ do you have? |
| 19:53:40 | tid-wave | 3600 |
| 19:54:00 | tid-wave | MAN IT SUCKS |
| 19:54:08 | tid-wave | i can't turn it on damn |
| 19:54:24 | spiralman | tid-wave: try restarting opie from a shell |
| 19:54:43 | spiralman | tid-wave: i had that problem before. it would come out of suspend, but the lcd wouldnt turn back on... |
| 19:54:50 | spiralman | tid-wave: went away, but i dont know how... |
| 19:55:15 | tid-wave | strange |
| 19:55:22 | tid-wave | and ANNOYING |
| 19:56:00 | tid-wave | i've restarted linux |
| 19:56:04 | tid-wave | dammit |
| 19:56:31 | bowser | tid-wave: Don't you have a reset-button? |
| 19:56:57 | tid-wave | yes |
| 19:57:01 | tid-wave | i've pressed that :) |
| 19:57:26 | tid-wave | look |
| 19:57:41 | tid-wave | if i enable sounds on key clicks |
| 19:57:44 | tid-wave | i hear an alarm |
| 19:57:48 | spiralman | later all |
| 19:57:51 | tid-wave | not the old key click sound |
| 19:57:52 | tid-wave | :)) |
| 19:58:29 | spiralman | is away: out |
| 20:01:04 | bowser | got to go! |
| 20:01:06 | bowser | Bye |
| 20:01:12 | tid-wave | bye |
| 20:09:34 | VerxWork | hello everyone |
| 20:09:43 | VerxWork | anyone alive in here? |
| 20:10:15 | tid-wave | yes |
| 20:12:26 | VerxWork | I am trying to find someone familiar with core/launcher |
| 20:13:43 | ErikN|WORK | hi all |
| 20:13:47 | VerxWork | guess no one here knows anything about core/launcher. . . |
| 20:13:51 | VerxWork | looks around |
| 20:13:55 | VerxWork | drops a pin |
| 20:14:06 | VerxWork | drops a large building. . . |
| 20:14:31 | ErikN|WORK | Does anyone understand the workings of TrollTech and licenses for opie/qtopia and the QT APIs? |
| 20:15:41 | sandman | ErikN|WORK: I do :) |
| 20:15:51 | ErikN|WORK | lol :-) |
| 20:24:56 | zecke | me too |
| 20:25:16 | VerxWork | ZECKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 20:25:39 | VerxWork | Zecke, any chance you could explain the security patch situation to me? |
| 20:56:41 | lanbo | hi. I have a question. I don't know what's going on but the ipaq suspends every 70 seconds or whatever is configured even if the ipaq is running on power (not batts I mean). How can I tell to opie not to turn off when running on power? Thanks in advance |
| 21:03:26 | lanbo | Sorry again. It's even worse. It turns off (suspends) even if I tell opie only to turn off after 99999 seconds |
| 21:14:58 | Nermal | yah.. that pisses me off to |
| 21:15:36 | lanbo | Nermal_Work: I'm talking to sandman in #handhelds.org about that right now. Did you manage to solve it? |
| 21:15:44 | Nermal | nope :| |
| 21:21:07 | nasa | Hi, does anyone know anything about ipkg? |
| 21:22:48 | lanbo | nasa: yes. It's a 4 letter word :-) j/k. What d'ya wanna know? |
| 21:23:43 | nasa | lol, I am getting errors when I try to use upgrade. |
| 21:24:06 | lanbo | ummm that could be anything |
| 21:24:20 | nasa | It doens't seem to know about programs installed on alternate locations |
| 21:24:28 | nasa | (such as sd/cf/ etc) |
| 21:24:54 | lanbo | nasa: Ummm you'd better ask in #handhelds.org. I think I cannot help you much about that |
| 21:25:06 | lanbo | nasa: I see you already asked there ;-) |
| 21:25:25 | nasa | I wasn't really sure were the best place to ask was |
| 21:25:36 | lanbo | anyway. Good night people. |
| 21:27:53 | tid-wave | can i run java applications on ipaq ? |
| 21:32:51 | treke|home | tid-wave: no |
| 21:33:06 | tid-wave | too bad... |
| 21:33:33 | treke|home | tid-wave: there are people looking into it, but a solution probably is a ways off |
| 21:33:54 | tid-wave | the JRE is too big |
| 21:42:11 | pattieja | is away: voting... |
| 21:57:46 | spiralman | is back |
| 21:58:03 | tid-wave | :) |
| 21:58:11 | spiralman | hey |
| 21:58:18 | tid-wave | welcome back |
| 21:58:33 | tid-wave | spiralman:do you use qt designer ? |
| 21:58:37 | spiralman | no |
| 21:58:44 | tid-wave | ...ok |
| 21:58:54 | spiralman | i prefer handcoding, gives me more control |
| 21:59:29 | tid-wave | ... |
| 22:00:18 | tid-wave | it's quite difficult to implement those layouts and frames ... |
| 22:00:20 | tid-wave | for me... |
| 22:01:13 | spiralman | well, to each their own |
| 22:01:19 | spiralman | qt designer is certainly faster |
| 22:02:45 | bowser | spiralman: do you know how to run pyqt apps? |
| 22:02:51 | treke|home | I've got to agree that doing dialogs by hand is a bit tedious |
| 22:04:11 | spiralman | bowser: id imagine youd just run them |
| 22:04:27 | bowser | and... how?? nothing happens... |
| 22:04:59 | raistlin | is there documentation on creating ipk files? |
| 22:05:04 | raistlin | specifically for Opie? |
| 22:05:23 | spiralman | bowser: first, make sure its executable |
| 22:05:37 | spiralman | bowser: also, you may have to run it through python... |
| 22:05:49 | | ipkg is probably the Itsy Package Management System used by Familiar: http://www.handhelds.org/z/wiki/iPKG or find the source in the handhelds.org CVS http://cvs.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/familiar/dist/ipkg/ |
| 22:05:49 | ljp | ibot: ipkg |
| 22:06:23 | raistlin | thanks! |
| 22:06:33 | treke|home | raistlin: Try and dig up ipkg-build and look open up some control files. Its pretty simple/debian like |
| 22:07:01 | VerxHome | hello |
| 22:07:03 | VerxHome | anyone home? |
| 22:07:06 | spiralman | hey |
| 22:07:10 | VerxHome | I did an ipkg upgrade today |
| 22:07:16 | VerxHome | and can no longer suspend with the power button |
| 22:07:21 | VerxHome | anyone know what might cause that? |
| 22:07:29 | VerxHome | howdy spiralman |
| 22:07:39 | treke|home | VerxHome: run apm --suspend from a console |
| 22:07:43 | treke|home | VerxHome: then it should work |
| 22:08:24 | spiralman | actually |
| 22:08:27 | treke|home | VerxHome: happened to me last night |
| 22:08:29 | spiralman | have you run it yet? |
| 22:08:41 | VerxHome | no |
| 22:08:42 | VerxHome | I haven't |
| 22:08:43 | VerxHome | why? |
| 22:08:50 | spiralman | try just running modprobe apm |
| 22:08:55 | VerxHome | (had to grab an updated bahia driver to be able to ssh in |
| 22:08:56 | VerxHome | ) |
| 22:09:10 | sandman | The apm issue should be fixed in ~10 hours when Groucho has rebuilt the feed |
| 22:09:22 | VerxHome | well, I am glad to know it is a known issue |
| 22:09:27 | spiralman | sandman: did the bug get found? |
| 22:09:30 | VerxHome | I seem to most often find problems that are unique to me |
| 22:09:55 | sandman | Yes .. I used /dev/apm_bios, but /dev/misc/apm_bios is the "official" one .. |
| 22:10:09 | spiralman | ahh |
| 22:15:14 | bowser | Good n8t! |
| 22:15:16 | VerxHome | is about to try it after a reboot |
| 22:17:57 | bowser | where can i get the libqte.so.2 |
| 22:17:59 | bowser | ? |
| 22:18:27 | treke|home | bowser: qt-embeded is the pacakge name |
| 22:18:28 | spiralman | for the ipaq? |
| 22:20:55 | bowser | spiralman: Jep |
| 22:21:16 | spiralman | yeah, ipkg install qt-embedded, like treke|home said |
| 22:21:18 | bowser | I've got a pyqt example file but it tells me that it can't find the libqte |
| 22:21:28 | bowser | spiralman: it is installed |
| 22:21:44 | spiralman | ahh, is this from a ssh session? |
| 22:22:07 | bowser | no serial |
| 22:22:14 | spiralman | well, regardless |
| 22:22:22 | spiralman | you need to set QTDIR |
| 22:22:25 | spiralman | run: |
| 22:22:32 | spiralman | export QTDIR=/opt/QtPalmtop |
| 22:22:57 | bowser | still : ImportError: libqte.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or direc |
| 22:23:31 | spiralman | hrm, whats in /opt/QtPalmtop/lib? |
| 22:25:10 | bowser | -rw-r--r-- 1 100 100 955 Aug 6 22:59 example.py |
| 22:25:10 | bowser | -rwxr-xr-x 1 100 100 254 Aug 6 22:59 example_main.py |
| 22:25:44 | spiralman | in /opt/QtPalmtop/lib ? |
| 22:25:57 | MickeyL | LD_LIBRARY_PATH gesezt? |
| 22:26:36 | bowser | MickeyL: english here :-) |
| 22:26:47 | bowser | MickeyL: no i didn't |
| 22:26:52 | bowser | how can i set that? |
| 22:26:53 | MickeyL | oh sorry... export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$QTDIR/lib |
| 22:27:41 | bowser | hey it runs! |
| 22:27:45 | bowser | but: QDir::readDirEntries: Cannot read the directory: ../plugins/fontfactories |
| 22:27:50 | MickeyL | sure:) |
| 22:28:03 | MickeyL | bowser: that's normal - don't worry. |
| 22:28:11 | bowser | OK... |
| 22:31:35 | VerxHome | woot |
| 22:31:45 | bowser | woot? |
| 22:31:50 | VerxHome | I did a symlink of /dev/misc/apm_bios to /dev/apm_bios |
| 22:31:53 | VerxHome | I can suspend now |
| 22:31:54 | VerxHome | :) |
| 22:32:17 | VerxHome | and |
| 22:32:27 | VerxHome | usbnet (bahia BND) is working on my winXP box |
| 22:32:32 | VerxHome | their previous driver had expired |
| 22:32:38 | VerxHome | so now all is well in the world of mice and men |
| 22:32:38 | VerxHome | :) |
| 22:36:18 | MickeyL | is leaving for a while... |
| 22:39:55 | VerxHome | explains to bowser that it is 4:45pm here, but my irc client is set to give incorrect time |
| 22:39:56 | VerxHome | :) |
| 22:40:32 | bowser | says: thanks, VerxHome! Here it's already wednesday :-) |
| 22:40:38 | VerxHome | heh |
| 22:40:50 | raistlin | does anyone know how to enable the hardware vmemo button? |
| 22:41:00 | treke|home | raistlin: install opie-sound |
| 22:41:23 | bowser | good n8t ;) |
| 22:41:28 | raistlin | k |
| 22:41:30 | treke|home | if you have it already, go to the vmemo settings applet on the settings folder |
| 22:41:39 | raistlin | k |
| 22:42:54 | raistlin | what should the record key set to? |
| 22:43:06 | treke|home | either RECORD or ESCAPE |
| 22:43:12 | treke|home | not sure what it was named |
| 22:43:19 | raistlin | Key_Escape? |
| 22:43:24 | treke|home | thats it |
| 22:43:51 | raistlin | let me try |
| 22:48:07 | raistlin | it seems to be working |
| 22:48:19 | raistlin | but the media player is choking |
| 22:48:33 | raistlin | i'll update it |
| 22:48:36 | treke|home | what type of files? |
| 22:49:02 | raistlin | the wav I just recorded |
| 22:51:20 | spiralman | raistlin: did you install the wav plugin for media player? |
| 22:52:22 | raistlin | :) yes |
| 22:52:36 | raistlin | i've tested wav playback |
| 22:52:44 | raistlin | I think i just need to update it |
| 22:55:25 | ljp | raistlin: what did you use to record it? |
| 22:58:59 | Cloudchaser | hello opie peeps ;) |
| 22:59:02 | spiralman | hey |
| 23:00:46 | Cloudchaser | i've just installed kergoth's newest masterpiece |
| 23:01:09 | Cloudchaser | and..i need to get something from a feed |
| 23:01:45 | Cloudchaser | but all i see is installed packages |
| 23:02:56 | spiralman | all you see where? |
| 23:03:07 | Cloudchaser | in the package manager |
| 23:03:14 | Cloudchaser | there's 2 feeds active |
| 23:03:46 | Cloudchaser | hmm hangon, something i did might hvae gone looking ;) |
| 23:04:12 | Cloudchaser | yay :) |
| 23:05:39 | spiralman | spiffy |
| 23:05:59 | Cloudchaser | hm but if i tap on it it puts an x in the box |
| 23:06:21 | spiralman | even though it has the "uninstalled" icon? |
| 23:06:40 | Cloudchaser | actually instead of the blue installed circle |
| 23:06:43 | Cloudchaser | there's a grey circl |
| 23:06:54 | Cloudchaser | not a red circle |
| 23:06:55 | spiralman | the help menu tells you what each icon means |
| 23:07:07 | Cloudchaser | i'm on the usermanual page |
| 23:07:29 | Cloudchaser | oh the grey is "old version installed" |
| 23:07:43 | Cloudchaser | i need a new version of one of those so i will uninstall that one |
| 23:07:59 | Cloudchaser | will i then see the new one with a red dot? |
| 23:08:07 | spiralman | there is no red dot |
| 23:08:12 | spiralman | installed is blue circle |
| 23:08:22 | Cloudchaser | right |
| 23:08:23 | spiralman | to be installed is blue circle in a red box |
| 23:08:29 | spiralman | unintsalled is red box |
| 23:08:38 | Cloudchaser | i have no red boxes |
| 23:08:50 | spiralman | umm, unless he changed the icons recently... |
| 23:09:06 | Cloudchaser | don't think so, think i'm not seeing whats available on the feed maybe |
| 23:09:35 | Cloudchaser | at the bottom of the list is a yellow box that says ipkgfind&killefiz |
| 23:09:57 | spiralman | yeah, thats for using ipkgfind and searching the killefiz.de site |
| 23:10:14 | spiralman | hrm, ljp never updated the user manual |
| 23:10:29 | Cloudchaser | ok so what i need is to see whats on oz feed |
| 23:10:44 | spiralman | http://www.rit.edu/~tfs1812/opieusermanual/book1.htm |
| 23:10:54 | spiralman | that might help a little |
| 23:11:08 | spiralman | ive never seen the problem you are having |
| 23:11:16 | spiralman | it might be a bug, or it might be some setting |
| 23:11:23 | spiralman | i cant get at my ipaq right now though... |
| 23:12:04 | Cloudchaser | i have no sections except "All" |
| 23:12:25 | spiralman | on the left menu or the right? |
| 23:12:59 | Cloudchaser | both |
| 23:13:40 | spiralman | strange, must be a bug of some sort, or maybe the OZ feed is broken/incomplete |
| 23:13:50 | Cloudchaser | i went to servers, oz and it looks like its updating list |
| 23:13:55 | spiralman | go to the feed in a web browser and see whats there |
| 23:14:09 | Cloudchaser | ok i have no web browser on z yet |
| 23:14:20 | spiralman | well, on your desktop... |
| 23:14:45 | spiralman | ljp: ping |
| 23:15:27 | Cloudchaser | i think he went to radio shack :) |
| 23:15:37 | | it has been said that feed is a package repository or http://www.handhelds.org/z/wiki/IpkgFeeds or http://www.zauruszone.com/feed/ or http://openzaurus.sf.net/feeds/3.0/ for OpenZaurus or http://opie.net.wox.org for cvs Opie |
| 23:15:37 | Cloudchaser | ibot feed |
| 23:16:02 | raistlin | spiralman: I think I found the problem |
| 23:16:03 | Cloudchaser | all kind of stuff in the feed |
| 23:16:19 | raistlin | spiralman: when I open the media player and select the wav file, it works well |
| 23:16:28 | spiralman | Cloudchaser: but is that where the src line is actually pointing in oipkg? |
| 23:16:33 | raistlin | spiralman: when I select the wav file from the Documents tab, it doesn't |
| 23:16:39 | spiralman | raistlin: thats not good... |
| 23:16:42 | raistlin | spiralman: it seems that the media player loops |
| 23:16:47 | spiralman | raistlin: well, its good that it works |
| 23:16:59 | raistlin | spiralman: automatically |
| 23:17:04 | spiralman | raistlin: there should be an icon in the playlist window that turns off looping |
| 23:17:09 | raistlin | yes |
| 23:17:17 | raistlin | when I check it, playback works well |
| 23:17:23 | raistlin | rather, uncheck it |
| 23:17:39 | raistlin | but when you execute the file directly, the player defaults to looping |
| 23:17:49 | spiralman | ahh |
| 23:18:12 | raistlin | I wish there was a config for the media player where that value could be set |
| 23:18:19 | raistlin | it might avoid this problem |
| 23:18:20 | spiralman | id suggest submiting a bug report, but since the switch to opie player 2 is in a couple of weeks, i think that nobody would try to fix it |
| 23:18:32 | spiralman | raistlin: there isnt a file in ~/Settings ? |
| 23:19:03 | raistlin | ah-ha |
| 23:19:07 | raistlin | let me set it to 0 |
| 23:19:58 | Cloudchaser | ljp: could you possibly help me? |
| 23:20:08 | Cloudchaser | i got the new oz from kergoth |
| 23:20:20 | Cloudchaser | and there was a problem he fixed |
| 23:20:40 | Cloudchaser | and he told me to download new opie-taskbar |
| 23:21:17 | Cloudchaser | but i can't get packages to show up in the list in the package manager |
| 23:23:49 | ljp | you should edit ~/Settings/oipkg.config |
| 23:24:09 | raistlin | spiralman: Looping = 0 works great |
| 23:24:12 | ljp | and change the default directory (I think or something) to /mnt/cf |
| 23:24:16 | spiralman | raistlin: spiffy |
| 23:24:17 | raistlin | but there should be an exception |
| 23:24:56 | Cloudchaser | ljp: i don't hve cf card in |
| 23:25:38 | ljp | oh.. where are the ipkgs at? |
| 23:25:47 | Cloudchaser | the feed |
| 23:25:58 | Cloudchaser | there's 2 set up from oz install |
| 23:26:07 | Cloudchaser | but i can't see any available packages |
| 23:27:13 | Cloudchaser | ah kergoth is back |
| 23:29:54 | raistlin | spiralman: have you seen "Some of the required modules (nocrosscompiler) are not available." |
| 23:30:09 | raistlin | during 'make install' for qt-embedded-3.0.4? |
| 23:30:11 | spiralman | raistlin: in opie player? no |
| 23:30:25 | spiralman | oh, havent installed qt-embedded-3 |
| 23:30:52 | spiralman | raistlin: if you link your opie apps against it though, it wont work with opie |
| 23:31:36 | spiralman | raistlin: unless you compile all of opie with it, in which case zaurus apps wont work |
| 23:32:14 | raistlin | right, I'd have to be using the compatible qt-embedded lib |
| 23:32:18 | raistlin | gotcha |
| 23:56:40 | raistlin | bye |
