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| 03:00.47 | linuxxr | wellp |
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| 11:11.15 | tim_abell | help! my shr-u has just croaked. "phonefsod is not running" when launching settings. error calling StartServiceByName and more in log |
| 11:11.26 | tim_abell | I really need my phone right now |
| 11:11.42 | tim_abell | I haven't changed anything for days so I don't know why it should suddenly stop working |
| 11:11.50 | PaulFertser | tim_abell: what happens if you try to start phonefsod from console? |
| 11:11.57 | tim_abell | ... |
| 11:12.12 | tim_abell | you mean with /etc/init.d/... start ? |
| 11:12.48 | tim_abell | it responds started ok |
| 11:13.31 | tim_abell | but when i re-run settings it still pops up the message |
| 11:14.27 | tim_abell | i can't copy paste because i can't ssh to the phone from windows 7 64 bit. ndis driver doesn't seem to work |
| 11:16.29 | tim_abell | first message in log is: phonefsod - warning failed to connect to /org/freesmartphone/device/idlenotifier/0 error calling startservicebyname for org.freesmartphone.odeviced: gdbus.error: org.freedesktop.dbus.error.spawn.childexited: launch helper exited with unkown return code 1 |
| 11:16.35 | tim_abell | man that was a lot of typing |
| 11:17.03 | tim_abell | followed by the same for input, display and powersupply |
| 11:17.24 | tim_abell | then a glib warning about overwiting error messages |
| 11:17.42 | tim_abell | i think it knew i'd just posted an ad with my phone number on it |
| 11:17.43 | tim_abell | ffs |
| 11:18.14 | tim_abell | i'll be gutted if i have to give up on the freerunner and get a phone that actually works |
| 11:18.33 | tim_abell | it's been so close for so long |
| 11:18.39 | PaulFertser | tim_abell: looks liko fsodeviced not running |
| 11:18.41 | tim_abell | but there's always something |
| 11:19.46 | tim_abell | trying to start that first... |
| 11:20.07 | tim_abell | ah, that's an improvement |
| 11:20.47 | tim_abell | /etc/init.d/fsodeviced start; /etc/init.d/phonefsod start |
| 11:21.46 | tim_abell | hrm. somethings still borked. the buttons don't work, and i can't slide the gsm antenna slider to on |
| 11:21.52 | tim_abell | keeps jumping back |
| 11:21.59 | tim_abell | oh looks like the daemon has died again |
| 11:22.19 | tim_abell | nuts, i don't have time to sort this out now |
| 11:22.36 | tim_abell | i'll have to boot into my other partition and put up with the bugs in that one instead |
| 11:22.39 | PaulFertser | tim_abell: sorry... |
| 11:22.41 | tim_abell | thanks for your help PaulFertser |
| 11:23.08 | tim_abell | i really wish the devs had time to sort out a semi stable release for what's left of the userbase |
| 11:23.25 | tim_abell | anyways, thanks again. laters |
| 11:23.44 | tim_abell | i'd have got further with shr-t if i hadn't had complete failure of my hardware at home :( |
| 11:23.52 | tim_abell | i currently have 0 working computers |
| 11:24.03 | tim_abell | (this one isn't mine) |
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| 20:37.07 | tim_abell | what are the odds of opkg upgrade on shr-u making my phone work again? (I'm running it now but have to go out in a moment) |
| 20:37.28 | tim_abell | the phone was very nearly eject through the car window on the way home! |
| 20:38.51 | tim_abell | btw thanks again for your help earlier PaulFertser, you have no idea what a difference it makes just having a friendly ear when it goes wrong and a couple of things to investigate |
| 20:38.51 | PaulFertser | tim_abell: always welcome :) |
| 20:39.20 | PaulFertser | tim_abell: but i'm not using SHR myself (i use FSO from git on Debian), so i'm unaware of all the details. |
| 20:39.34 | tim_abell | that sounds hardcore :) |
| 20:39.39 | tim_abell | how's it working out for you? |
| 20:39.53 | PaulFertser | tim_abell: it is hardcore. And i use my own Emacs UI for telephony. |
| 20:39.58 | tim_abell | lol |
| 20:40.08 | tim_abell | don't think that'd work while i'm driving :) |
| 20:40.28 | tim_abell | are you working on the code of fso? |
| 20:40.42 | PaulFertser | tim_abell: no kidding, that's the only UI i use now. And exactly, i had to add a special hook to be able to pick up by pressing AUX hardware button while driving :) |
| 20:41.05 | tim_abell | lol, Ctrl-AUX,Ctrl-Power shurley? |
| 20:41.21 | badcloud | Emacs for making calls? that sounds wicked |
| 20:41.41 | PaulFertser | tim_abell: (working on fso) no, but i support the effort by using it and trying to investigate problems looking through the code and debug logs. |
| 20:41.47 | tim_abell | i have enough trouble using emacs to edit files let alone anything else :) |
| 20:41.48 | PaulFertser | tim_abell: :D |
| 20:42.47 | tim_abell | currently i'm trying to polish up a patch for better rename support for git in windows (blergh), but I hope to go back to trying to help with openmoko distros soon |
| 20:42.49 | PaulFertser | tim_abell: i had to learn elisp for that but surprisingly enough, writing that UI gave me a lot of fun, more than i usually received from my IT-related activities lately. |
| 20:43.16 | tim_abell | eek |
| 20:43.24 | tim_abell | what's the usual IT activities? |
| 20:43.56 | tim_abell | my day job is asp.net + visual studio, hence being stuck with windows |
| 20:44.11 | PaulFertser | tim_abell: hm, random lurking, trying to sort out random bugs whenever i face them. And my dayjob is related to embedded stuff (avr, arms). |
| 20:44.31 | PaulFertser | tim_abell: i like git a lot btw. |
| 20:44.39 | tim_abell | git rules :) |
| 20:45.04 | tim_abell | though I've been having interesting times with merges recently |
| 20:45.18 | PaulFertser | tim_abell: i think you need to ask mrmoku or someone else from shr to get the status update. |
| 20:45.41 | tim_abell | fortunately it's dual boot with an older shr-u that I know more or less works |
| 20:45.46 | tim_abell | so i'll just suck it and see |
| 20:46.01 | tim_abell | the old one keeps forgetting the time which is a bit annoying |
| 20:46.11 | PaulFertser | Reasonable |
| 20:46.42 | tim_abell | and the reason it nearly went out the car window is for some reason it flat out refused to use the wired handsfree so I couldn't organise my evening during the (tedious) commute |
| 20:46.47 | tim_abell | hey ho |
| 20:46.54 | PaulFertser | tim_abell: we all have defective backup batteries, so time is not kept when the device is turned off. |
| 20:46.56 | tim_abell | i dream of having a bluetooth handset again |
| 20:47.15 | tim_abell | oh rly? funnily enough the other install does it fine |
| 20:47.41 | PaulFertser | tim_abell: probably the other has working NTP. |
| 20:47.53 | tim_abell | i had heard talk of the battery problem, but haven't seen the exact issue |
| 20:48.08 | PaulFertser | Neither me. Nobody knows for sure. |
| 20:48.17 | tim_abell | it would need network for that wouldn't it? |
| 20:48.25 | PaulFertser | Sure. Or gps. |
| 20:48.38 | tim_abell | yeah I've seen it correct from the gps, that's very cool |
| 20:48.46 | tim_abell | sadly my old install doesn't |
| 20:48.53 | tim_abell | gosh this is a long update |
| 20:50.46 | PaulFertser | tim_abell: have you considered trying QtMoko? |
| 20:51.12 | tim_abell | yeah tried it for quite a while |
| 20:51.41 | PaulFertser | Some folks say it's really fast and usable nowadays. |
| 20:51.43 | tim_abell | it was great until it silently discarded a load of incoming messages |
| 20:51.51 | tim_abell | but that was a little while ago |
| 20:52.05 | tim_abell | i might put a newer version on an sd card |
| 20:52.50 | badcloud | tim_abell: they have udfu images |
| 20:52.52 | badcloud | *fast* |
| 20:53.15 | badcloud | they went from jffs2 to udfu in v30 I think |
| 20:53.19 | tim_abell | what's udfu? |
| 20:53.28 | badcloud | different image format |
| 20:53.33 | tim_abell | oh right |
| 20:53.40 | PaulFertser | I guess you mean ubifs. |
| 20:53.44 | tim_abell | for the internal flash? or does it work on sd too |
| 20:53.50 | PaulFertser | MTD-only |
| 20:53.52 | badcloud | PaulFertser: ummmm, I suppose *blush* |
| 20:53.55 | tim_abell | mtd? |
| 20:54.03 | PaulFertser | tim_abell: nand flash and such. |
| 20:54.07 | badcloud | right |
| 20:54.08 | badcloud | ubi |
| 20:54.12 | tim_abell | oh right. what does it stand for? |
| 20:54.13 | badcloud | was looking at the qi image |
| 20:54.33 | PaulFertser | tim_abell: ubifs is a newer cooler faster filesystem (comparing to jffs2) |
| 20:54.39 | lindi- | with more bugs :) |
| 20:54.42 | tim_abell | lol |
| 20:54.44 | lindi- | whoops, sorry :P |
| 20:54.59 | badcloud | lindi-: so far I haven't experienced any afaik |
| 20:55.01 | PaulFertser | Yeah, doesn't like harsh reboots. |
| 20:55.23 | badcloud | come to think of it, qpe.sh has force restarted quite a few times |
| 20:55.44 | tim_abell | hrmph, phonefsod still borked, anyone fancy a quick troubleshooting session now i can actually copy-paste? |
| 20:56.29 | PaulFertser | tim_abell: you can try starting fsodeviced from the terminal without the init script. |
| 20:56.43 | PaulFertser | tim_abell: to see if it says anything interesting before dying. |
| 20:56.47 | tim_abell | root@om-gta02 ~ # ps -A | grep fso |
| 20:56.47 | tim_abell | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:56.47 | tim_abell | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:56.47 | tim_abell | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:56.52 | tim_abell | k |
| 20:56.59 | PaulFertser | tim_abell: ulimit -c unlimited |
| 20:57.12 | tim_abell | what's ulimit? |
| 20:57.20 | PaulFertser | tim_abell: to collect the core dump for the case it segfaults. |
| 20:57.33 | PaulFertser | tim_abell: means set some parameters for userspace limits. |
| 20:57.39 | tim_abell | root@om-gta02 ~ # fsodeviced |
| 20:57.39 | tim_abell | Aborting due to critical error: |
| 20:57.39 | tim_abell | 'GLib <fsodevice.router_alsa>: file plugin.c: line 259: uncaught error: Expected 4 descriptor components, got 3 (fso_device_sound_error-quark, 3)' |
| 20:58.08 | tim_abell | mean anything? certainly doesn't mean much to me |
| 20:58.17 | PaulFertser | tim_abell: now you've got important info and so mrmoku or JaMa will fix it soon. |
| 20:58.20 | tim_abell | I presume the openmoko doesn't have a subatomic sound system |
| 20:58.26 | tim_abell | :) |
| 20:58.29 | PaulFertser | :D |
| 20:58.59 | tim_abell | right, i really do have to go now, thanks for your help and moral support |
| 20:59.06 | tim_abell | any other output before i do a runner? |
| 20:59.25 | PaulFertser | tim_abell: i guess that's enough for a start, good luck and drive safe :) |
| 20:59.31 | tim_abell | k, thanks folks |
| 20:59.47 | tim_abell | till next time... smoke me a kipper i'll be back for breakfast |
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| 21:34.02 | CyberDomovoy | hi |
| 21:37.47 | CyberDomovoy | i received my freeruner today, and... it doesn't start anymore ^^ what i did: installed SHR unstable, too buggy, i decided to try testing. After the flash (qi, kernel and root), i unplugged my FR (it was off), then i discovered the power button didn't start it anymore... but i could get to the NOR uBoot, and booted from here, after SHR wizard, i shutted down the FR, and now it won't start, whatever i try, any idea? |
| 21:39.10 | lindi- | CyberDomovoy: what have you tried? |
| 21:40.57 | CyberDomovoy | lindi-: power button, aux+power, aux, and the same again, holding them for a long time (about 20sec) |
| 21:41.59 | lindi- | CyberDomovoy: which version of FR? |
| 21:42.50 | CyberDomovoy | GTA02, from hackable-devices.org |
| 21:42.51 | lindi- | CyberDomovoy: (gta02v5 or gta02v7 -- the sticker should say I think?) |
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| 21:44.42 | CyberDomovoy | lindi-: can't find it on the phone |
| 21:45.42 | CyberDomovoy | i only have "Model: GTA02" |
| 21:46.00 | lindi- | CyberDomovoy: what does the datecode read? |
| 21:46.16 | lindi- | CyberDomovoy: It should be printed below battery |
| 21:46.21 | CyberDomovoy | lindi-: 20091117 |
| 21:46.41 | lindi- | CyberDomovoy: ok then that is very probably gta02V7 |
| 21:47.44 | CyberDomovoy | it's brand new, i was just starting to play with it :( hope there is a solution |
| 21:47.55 | lindi- | CyberDomovoy: I think either your battery is completely empty or you have broken your aux button |
| 21:48.39 | CyberDomovoy | lindi-: battery was full |
| 21:48.46 | lindi- | CyberDomovoy: remove the SD card, SIM card and battery. connect wall charger. then hold down AUX and press power for 3 seconds? |
| 21:48.48 | CyberDomovoy | almost |
| 21:49.41 | CyberDomovoy | worked! |
| 21:50.33 | CyberDomovoy | but still not work with power button only... |
| 21:50.53 | lindi- | CyberDomovoy: your boot loader in NAND is probably just broken or wrongly configured |
| 21:51.33 | CyberDomovoy | lindi-: so, flash it again, and another version if still don't work? |
| 21:51.43 | lindi- | CyberDomovoy: do you have shell history so that we can check if you flashed it correctly? |
| 21:51.52 | CyberDomovoy | yep |
| 21:52.22 | CyberDomovoy | dfu-util -a u-boot -R -D qi-s3c6410-1.0.2-r1+gitr0+c38b062a609f1442e6a9e13005cfbdfd59a5ac0d.udfu |
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| 21:54.22 | lindi- | CyberDomovoy: s3c6410 sounds wrong? |
| 21:54.35 | lindi- | CyberDomovoy: gta02 is s3c2442 |
| 21:55.10 | CyberDomovoy | lindi-: http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/ |
| 21:55.14 | CyberDomovoy | got it here |
| 21:55.28 | CyberDomovoy | i'll try s3c2442 |
| 21:55.39 | lindi- | CyberDomovoy: the chipset is documented at http://www.amebasystems.com/downloads/hardware/datasheets/freerunner/SoC/um_s3c2442b_rev12.pdf |
| 21:59.57 | CyberDomovoy | lindi-: starts well with 2442, thanks |
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| 22:02.37 | lindi- | CyberDomovoy: I hope you learned something new :) |
| 22:03.41 | CyberDomovoy | lindi-: yes, never thought the boot manager could stop the device from starting, i was expecting at least some kind of bios or something |
| 22:04.09 | lindi- | CyberDomovoy: no non-free bioses here :) |
| 22:04.31 | lindi- | CyberDomovoy: boot loader is pretty much the "bios" here. it even enables your memory chips |
| 22:05.56 | CyberDomovoy | lindi-: i didn't ever know that was possible :) i think i'll learn much with this stuff ^^ i'm also hacking my NAS, lot of fun is coming ;) |
| 22:15.14 | CyberDomovoy | ?? can't find the underscore on the kayboard? |
| 22:15.47 | lindi- | CyberDomovoy: what keyboard application is that? |
| 22:16.16 | CyberDomovoy | ho, was in the caps set |
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