IRC log for #openmoko on 20100820

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00:23.32Ddordahey guys, say, what's the most good & stable SHR atm?
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01:01.37Ddordaanyone's here?
01:02.20angelox_123i
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01:12.23Ddordaangelox_123: i'm trying to flash my device but dfu says i have 2 devices connected
01:12.44angelox_123Ddorda..What device?
01:12.46Ddordai have nothing connected but this device
01:13.12Ddordaangelox_123: moko
01:13.15Ddordanew
01:13.16Ddordaneo*
01:13.30angelox_123what is dfu sorry?
01:13.38Ddordadfu-util
01:14.05angelox_123wait one secound please..i'll see if i can help!
01:14.34Ddordaangelox_123: i think it's something with the usb. do you know how i can find what's disturbing?
01:15.17Ddordalsusb shpws only one entry for moko
01:16.00angelox_123can you write what the program say about the interfaces(devices connecteds)
01:17.57angelox_123What distribuition u use? (host)
01:18.05DdordaUbuntu?
01:18.11Ddordaor you mean SHR?
01:18.23angelox_123ok..u use ubuntu on pc...
01:18.35Ddordaand it says i have intr 2 & 3
01:18.42Ddorda3 is the fake one
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01:19.16angelox_123you can try flash with the 2' device
01:20.20Ddordai tried
01:20.36Ddordadfu-util -i 2 -a rootfs -R -D lite-om-gta02.jffs2
01:23.37DdordaFound Runtime: [0x413c:0x8160] devnum=0, cfg=0, intf=3, alt=0, name="UNDEFINED"
01:23.38DdordaFound Runtime: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=0, cfg=0, intf=2, alt=0, name="UNDEFINED"
01:23.49Ddordahow do i kill 3?
01:24.47angelox_123i dont know sorry please!
01:25.04Ddordait's okay
01:26.22PaulFDdorda: hey
01:26.40PaulFDdorda: you need to supply an additional argument to dfu-util, just like suggested on the wiki.
01:27.32PaulFDdorda: -d 0x1d50:0x5119
01:30.58DiodomanXim looking an app for manage fr hw (bt, wifi, usb, gps) from gui, and other for admin running process in debian any clue
01:31.38PaulFDiodomanX: probably openmoko-panel ?
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01:36.43PaulFDiodomanX: openmoko-panel-plugin
01:36.48PaulFDdorda1: got my advice?
01:36.56Ddorda1PaulF: missed it i guess
01:37.02Ddorda1but i'm using neotool now
01:37.07Ddorda1and it works awesome
01:37.19PaulFDiodomanX: i'm editing wpa_supplicant.conf in vim or emacs when i need network connectivity so using "om" commands shouldn't be an issue ;)
01:37.31PaulFDdorda1: i'm not talking to you anymore then :P
01:37.45Ddorda1one thing: where can i get an SHR kernel, uImage? i saw only the rootfs
01:38.24Ddorda1PaulF: your problem, i'm nice though :P
01:38.31PaulFdownloads.shr-project.org
01:39.00PaulFDdorda1: some crippy gui when all you need is dfu is nice? well, we have different notions of "nice" then.
01:39.22Ddorda1PaulF: believe me that i always prefer the CLI
01:39.32Ddorda1it's faster, easier to understand
01:39.35PaulF05:26 < PaulF> Ddorda: hey
01:39.35PaulF05:26 < PaulF> Ddorda: you need to supply an additional argument to dfu-util, just like suggested on the wiki.
01:39.39PaulF05:27 < PaulF> Ddorda: -d 0x1d50:0x5119
01:39.44Ddorda1PaulF: :S
01:39.55Ddorda1couldn't you say it 1 minute earlier? :P
01:42.38PaulFAnyway, i gotta sleep. Sunrise is too near :)
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02:41.51DiodomanXwhen im using openmoko panel plugin i cant ssh to my phone
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06:33.14PaulFradekp: hey :) i wonder if riding a recumbent is really better than riding a regular bike. Have you tried longer (>100km) trips on it, etc?
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06:34.22PaulFradekp: also do you feel comfortable in the traffic? What about going between lanes in traffic jams?
06:34.27radekpPaulF: hi, of course i did long trips :)
06:35.30radekpPaulF: it's hard to say if it's better - it's different
06:36.27radekpit's very comfortable, i think you enjoy the ride much more then on normal bike
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06:37.20radekpbut in traffic it's quite clumsy - you need rear mirror because you cant turn your head
06:38.28PaulFradekp: i prefer using mirror on a regular bike too, i think it's highly recommended in congested traffic.
06:38.54radekpPaulF: yup same here, i have mirror also on my regular bike
06:39.07Defiantnah, no mirror no anything
06:39.50PaulFDefiant: you're yet to see the moscow traffic :(
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06:40.42DefiantMy fear is that something happens with it. Either I hit another person with it or mysqlf
06:41.12Defiant*mysqlf. And no thanks, the traffic in my hometown is enough for me
06:46.58PaulFradekp: did you have a chance to compare it with a road racing bike?
06:47.59radekpPaulF: only with my very very old road bike
06:48.30radekpPaulF: but it's really impossible to tell what is better - each has it's advantages and disadvantages
06:48.46radekpPaulF: i think you can be faster on recumbent against wind
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06:49.17radekpPaulF: and downhill - recumbent accelerates and rides downhill damn fast
06:50.25PaulFradekp: but most overtakes happen uphill usually. Btw, what's the top speed you had?
06:50.27radekpPaulF: but it's also very heavy, so in hills i think you have no chance against light road bike
06:51.08radekpPaulF: something above 70km/h, then i was too scared and pressed the brakes :)
06:51.40radekpPaulF: i am quite sure it would continue to 90km/h maybe even more
06:51.49PaulFradekp: wow, really scare
06:52.59radekpbut on recumbent it does not feel so dangerous - you are sitting in "good position for crash" ;-)  that is low above the road
06:53.08PaulFradekp: i hit 60 on my way to work (on both "mtb" and road bikes).
06:54.15PaulFBut a regular road is certainly not the most comfortable for the speed records :)
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06:56.08radekpi saw some youtube videos - they go like 90km/h or regular road :)
06:56.16radekpe.g. this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpI5fASgwmE&feature=related
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07:04.32PaulFWow, that's rather cool.
07:05.20vanouscool :)
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07:29.20gena2xwow, never saw such bikes. looks interesting
07:30.39gena2xseem many fr users like bicycle. :) my record is ~220km in a day and ~60km/h downhill
07:30.56gena2xno big hills here :)
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07:47.40PaulFgena2x: 220km a day sounds impressive!
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07:49.01PaulFis off trying to buy fitting pair of cycling shoes (2nd try)
07:49.48gena2xPaulF: heh, not really. seem people on all big tours drive ~200 each day for several weeks, with average speed i can't ever imagine.
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07:51.08PaulFgena2x: are you talking about the racing events here? Yes, those are something i can't understand or imagine myself :)
07:51.44PaulFradekp: btw, what pedal system are you using? What standard?
07:51.55gena2xPaulF: it happend than i once took part in ride of 'randonners' of Spb. they doing 200, 300, 400, 600, 800 or 1000 in one go :) 200 and 300 are actually should be done in <24hrs to match time limit
07:52.16PaulF:)
07:52.45gena2xmay be 400 too <24hrs
07:55.36radekpPaulF: i have normal pedals on recumbent and old road bike and have Shimano SH-M076 MTB-Shoes on my MTB
07:57.42radekpPaulF: i take cycling more like way of transport then sport - so i am not cycling guru :)
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08:16.21vanousradekp: you cycle to work?
08:24.44PaulFradekp: i can hardly imagine a road or recumbent without clipless pedals tbh :) Well, probably toe clips on a road if you do not have to stop often...
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08:27.59radekpvanous: yup
08:28.09radekpvanous: if it is possible
08:29.36vanousgreat
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19:16.40freerunner_userdoes anybody get a problem with upgrading shr via "opg upgrade"?
19:18.09freerunner_userafter rebooting X doesn't start and jffs is damaged
19:19.06freerunner_useri get "jffs wrong data crc"
19:21.05freerunner_useri try to use fsck, but current distrib doesn't contain this stuff for jffs2.
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