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| 03:33.28 | bmidgley | hey, are there docs for adding gllin to shr properly |
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| 05:05.04 | luke-jr | bmidgley: shr supports Neo1973? |
| 05:05.26 | PaulFertser | Yes, at least it tries |
| 05:06.10 | PaulFertser | bmidgley: btw, if you install the right version of gllin, and your frameworkd.conf configuration is correct, ogpsd will start gllin automatically. |
| 05:06.23 | PaulFertser | bmidgley: start and use |
| 05:06.29 | PaulFertser | bmidgley: let's troubleshoot your issue |
| 05:08.03 | PaulFertser | luke-jr: gta01 and gta02 do not differ that much. And shr tries to support any platform out there, including HTC G1 etc. |
| 05:08.21 | luke-jr | oh well |
| 05:08.30 | luke-jr | did anyone manage to get an open Neo1973 GPS? |
| 05:08.44 | PaulFertser | Unfortunately, no, afaict. |
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| 05:36.23 | bmidgley | PaulFertser: fwiw, I installed the gllin I have, mostly lives in /user/share/gllin |
| 05:36.42 | bmidgley | not getting run, not sure exactly have to tell tangogps to turn on gps |
| 05:37.04 | PaulFertser | bmidgley: yes, and it needs its own chroot because it uses old ABI and the bastards refused to provide us with an EABI version. |
| 05:37.59 | bmidgley | this one does provide its own libraries and startup script but instead of a chroot it fiddles with shared lib paths iirc |
| 05:38.25 | PaulFertser | bmidgley: in an ideal world it works like this: tangogps connects via a tcp socket to your fso-gpsd daemon, the daemon requests GPS resource and starts acquiring info via Gypsy-like protocol from ogpsd and translates it in gpsd-compatible protocol. |
| 05:38.38 | PaulFertser | bmidgley: ok, that would work as well |
| 05:46.04 | cz_jc | Weiss, hi, you told me to compile xf86-video-glamo with --disable-kms to avoid glamo.h:41:26: error: drm/glamo_bo.h: No such file or directory |
| 05:46.23 | cz_jc | Weiss, I tried to do so, during configure it told me: checking whether to use KMS... no |
| 05:46.33 | cz_jc | Weiss, even so, I still get the same error for some reason.. |
| 05:48.14 | cz_jc | Weiss, any idea if theres something else that might disable drm in xf86-video-glamo pls ? |
| 05:50.14 | max_posedon | Doesn't it better just use fbdev in this case? |
| 05:50.41 | cz_jc | max_posedon, fbdev doesn't allow use of xrandr rotation |
| 05:50.53 | cz_jc | max_posedon, btw. thats what I do right now |
| 05:51.13 | max_posedon | as for drm - just write libdrm ebuild |
| 05:51.22 | cz_jc | max_posedon, and since youre here, I wrote a patch for x11-drivers/xf86-video-glamo to add a kms use flag that sets --enable-kms or --disable-kms (yeey my first :)) |
| 05:51.34 | max_posedon | or whatever requires correct glamo compilation |
| 05:51.51 | cz_jc | max_posedon, you still have commit access ? |
| 05:52.04 | max_posedon | yep |
| 05:52.19 | cz_jc | max_posedon, ok, I'll post it on the tracker and let you know :) |
| 05:52.51 | max_posedon | go ahead, did you tried fso2+zhone2? |
| 05:55.24 | bmidgley | hey hey the gps is working after installing my old gllin tarball |
| 05:57.52 | cz_jc | max_posedon, ok, its in this bug: http://gentoo.mindzoo.de/index.cgi/ticket/302 |
| 05:58.38 | PaulFertser | bmidgley: nice :) |
| 06:01.06 | max_posedon | cz_jc, I'm a bit confused, disable ksm and continue use ksm branch?! |
| 06:01.16 | max_posedon | does it works for you? |
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| 06:02.09 | cz_jc | max_posedon, nope, I didn't try them, I just recently got my Xorg working... |
| 06:02.39 | cz_jc | max_posedon, AFAIK, it was merged. It still fails with the same error as I said.. do you think removing EGIT_BRANCH="kms" would help ? |
| 06:02.54 | max_posedon | I don' |
| 06:03.03 | max_posedon | t know where development going |
| 06:03.11 | max_posedon | I'll keep for a while |
| 06:03.19 | cz_jc | max_posedon, I'll try it though.. |
| 06:03.54 | cz_jc | max_posedon, nah thats not it |
| 06:04.13 | cz_jc | max_posedon, I see its only set if use="dri", I don't have that here.. |
| 06:05.12 | cz_jc | max_posedon, ok then, just leave it and maybe someone will notice it in bugs and fix it |
| 06:05.16 | cz_jc | I'm a noob at this |
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| 06:16.38 | max_posedon | cz_jc, so, how should I test it (at least for compilation) +dri +ksm? |
| 06:17.06 | cz_jc | max_posedon, both use flags disabled (but it doesn't compile without glamo specific libdrm anyway) |
| 06:17.21 | Weiss | cz_jc: I just pushed a rebased libdrm branch which changes the include dir.. should be worth a try |
| 06:17.26 | cz_jc | max_posedon, right now, I'm making a libdrm ebuild from its git repo |
| 06:17.40 | cz_jc | Weiss, thanks, i'll try |
| 06:17.49 | max_posedon | so, I'll postpone any changes for nwo |
| 06:17.51 | max_posedon | *now |
| 06:17.56 | cz_jc | max_posedon, yep |
| 06:19.35 | cz_jc | Weiss, did you push it here? http://git.openmoko.org/?p=xf86-video-glamo.git;a=summary |
| 06:19.56 | Weiss | cz_jc: ...or it might break horribly. if it does, try one less than the latest commit - that worked for me with the latest org.openembedded.dev. the latest change seemed obvious, but I haven't tested it yet |
| 06:20.09 | Weiss | http://git.bitwiz.org.uk/ |
| 06:20.36 | Weiss | yep, xf86-video-glamo is up to date at both places |
| 06:21.04 | cz_jc | Weiss, btw. I went back about 5 commits before and tried to compie and it did the same |
| 06:21.21 | cz_jc | Weiss, I think a safe bet will be to get proper glami libdrm here |
| 06:21.27 | cz_jc | *glamo |
| 06:22.26 | cz_jc | oh well. I'll clean up my local repo and try to fetch and compile it anyway just to be sure |
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| 06:40.36 | PaulFertser | bmidgley: probably the information about your experience using SHR-u on gta01 is worth adding to the shr manual on the wiki, it would be very nice of you if you did that. |
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| 06:52.47 | Weiss | cz_jc: "proper"? you should have that already.. |
| 06:54.19 | Weiss | you're using... Gentoo? |
| 06:54.45 | Weiss | it's worth checking to see whether those headers actually got installed, and that xf86-video-glamo is looking for them in the right place |
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| 07:13.20 | cz_jc | Weiss, nope, they aren't installed. sorry I'm back. latest commit failed with the same error, I'll try the second latest |
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| 07:14.14 | cz_jc | Weiss, I just tried cd91a3c251dfd0b9d4e1230b6f9dd498e46e8fb6 (second latest) and its the same |
| 07:14.36 | cz_jc | Weiss, the headers don't get installed probably because I don't have libdrm at all here. I'll need to make the packages depend on it, apparently |
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| 07:26.30 | cz_jc | Weiss, correction, I have libdrm-2.4.18_pre20100211-r1 (a stable version in gentoo) and its looking in the correct place but the headers aren't there |
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| 07:31.53 | cz_jc | max_posedon, well I'm screwed for now, i got: fatal: ambiguous argument 'master': unknown revision or path not in the working tree. |
| 07:32.02 | cz_jc | dunno how to solve it, I'm gotta lie down |
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| 07:41.17 | Weiss | cz_jc: ah.. you need the special Glamo version from git.bitwiz.org.uk for Glamo stuff |
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| 07:42.23 | cz_jc | Weiss, yep, I discovered that.. Yet another official package overriden and noone capable is around to write an ebuild for it so I'm doing it XD |
| 07:43.04 | cz_jc | Weiss, it basically forces gentooers to use framebuffer right now :/ |
| 07:43.14 | Weiss | yeah... graphics stuff on Linux has a lot of tricky dependencies |
| 07:43.59 | cz_jc | Weiss, btw. do you know I found glamo_bo.h in mesa git repo ? |
| 07:44.17 | Weiss | where did you get your Mesa from? |
| 07:44.36 | cz_jc | Weiss, here they are: http://gitorious.org/mesa/drm/trees/8b15be5839437aeb73e98ca2b2286326ce29011f/glamo |
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| 07:44.46 | cz_jc | Weiss, looks like your stuff was submitted upstream, wasn't it ? |
| 07:45.15 | Weiss | nope, only the tiniest parts of it.. (bugs I turned up ) |
| 07:45.38 | Weiss | oh.. that's JaMa's copy of the repository |
| 07:45.46 | cz_jc | aah.. XD |
| 07:45.50 | JaMa | lol :) |
| 07:46.00 | cz_jc | and here I am hoping the problem will solve itself in time XD |
| 07:47.23 | Weiss | :) |
| 07:47.53 | Weiss | yep, that's JaMa's copy of the *libdrm* repository.. |
| 07:48.23 | JaMa | cz_jc: the upstream is http://cgit.freedesktop.org/ |
| 07:48.43 | cz_jc | I see.. no glamo :/ |
| 07:49.30 | cz_jc | I already wrote an ebuild that pulls libdrm from Weiss's repo but I get a git error on checkout. I gotta clean my head for this one |
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| 07:51.15 | JaMa | Weiss: should I bump mesa/libdrm in OE with your rebased branches? (I guess so) |
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| 07:56.45 | Weiss | JaMa: test the changes first.. hopefully I didn't break any compatability with <2.6.34 |
| 07:57.18 | Weiss | the DRI developers got into trouble recently for breaking backwards compatibility |
| 07:58.09 | JaMa | you mean that nouveau <-> torvalds issue with changed api? or is there something else? |
| 07:58.18 | JaMa | but I'll try it for sure |
| 07:59.47 | Weiss | yeah.. maybe it was just nouveau.. I didn't read too carefully |
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| 10:45.51 | beniwtv | Hi all... anyone has problems with GPS on SHR-U? I can't seem to make it work, not even on the command line. |
| 10:46.29 | SpeedEvil | beniwtv: FR or neo1973? |
| 10:46.37 | beniwtv | SpeedEvil: Fr |
| 10:47.12 | SpeedEvil | I vaguely recall discussions from a few days ago on GPS |
| 10:47.22 | SpeedEvil | sorry - I don't have FR, so I diddn't pay much attention |
| 10:48.12 | beniwtv | SpeedEvil: I remember them, yes, but they should be solved AFAIK (and I just re-flased to be sure). It seems the power is on allright, but cat /dev/ttySAC1 returns immediately. |
| 10:49.09 | SpeedEvil | with an error, or just returns |
| 10:51.18 | beniwtv | Just returns |
| 10:51.25 | PaulFertser | beniwtv: do you have an understanding of the architecture? Why do not you provide us with frameworkd logs? |
| 10:51.58 | beniwtv | PaulFertser: No errors in the frameworkd log, apart from the usual file not found error. |
| 10:52.32 | beniwtv | I'm algo getting some rxerrors in dmesg, but I don't know if they're related |
| 10:52.40 | PaulFertser | beniwtv: then run it with [ogpsd] debug and retry |
| 10:53.10 | beniwtv | PaulFertser: OK, will try |
| 10:54.01 | JaMa | beniwtv: are you testing 2.6.3* kernel or reflashed std image and using std 2.6.29? |
| 10:54.14 | beniwtv | JaMa: standard 2.6.29 |
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| 21:21.54 | lestat | hi all |
| 21:22.14 | lestat | do you think it's possible to run mpd on a freerunner ? |
| 21:24.06 | max_posedon | yes, it is |
| 21:24.21 | lestat | max_posedon: are the performances ok ? |
| 21:24.29 | lestat | even with a nfs/sshfs stuff ? |
| 21:24.47 | max_posedon | it should be enough |
| 21:24.53 | lestat | neat |
| 21:25.14 | max_posedon | people listen music from freerunner, mpd just one more player |
| 21:25.16 | lestat | max_posedon: have you build it yourself ? or did you find a prebuild package ? |
| 21:25.26 | max_posedon | didn't shr-unstable have it? |
| 21:25.40 | max_posedon | if it haven't ask shr-team, it will be easy for them add it |
| 21:25.44 | badcloud | lestat: which distro are you running/intending to run? |
| 21:26.06 | lestat | badcloud: i don't mind to flash it if it can run mpd/ncmpc |
| 21:26.18 | badcloud | debian has a package for mpd |
| 21:26.31 | badcloud | check out the distro page on the openmoko wiki |
| 21:27.12 | lestat | wow much more stuff than when i was playing with the openmoko :D |
| 21:27.50 | badcloud | lestat: I just checked the shr package list |
| 21:27.54 | badcloud | mpd's on there :) |
| 21:27.57 | lestat | neat |
| 21:28.07 | lestat | badcloud: is shr better ? |
| 21:28.23 | badcloud | I personally take to qtmoko, but I think ultimately it's a matter of taste/priority |
| 21:28.45 | badcloud | if you have a micro SD card |
| 21:28.50 | badcloud | make a few partitions |
| 21:28.57 | badcloud | and try a few at a time |
| 21:29.35 | lestat | badcloud: well that's another dark point for me |
| 21:29.51 | badcloud | lestat: what is? |
| 21:29.57 | lestat | badcloud: since there is not that much disk, i intend to use nfs or w/e for storing the music files |
| 21:30.13 | badcloud | sounds fine, but what about a 16gb usd? |
| 21:30.20 | max_posedon | I bought a 16G uSD for myself) |
| 21:30.25 | lestat | i'm afraid of the perf of having mpd+ncmpc+ssh+nfs |
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| 21:30.39 | lestat | badcloud: i've more than 16GB of music :\ |
| 21:30.40 | badcloud | I think usd's are quite cheap now |
| 21:30.45 | badcloud | lestat: right |
| 21:30.55 | max_posedon | lestat, I don't see any problem |
| 21:31.08 | max_posedon | neo hardware isn't upstream, but not so bad) |
| 21:31.17 | lestat | ok ty :) |
| 21:31.19 | badcloud | lestat: he's got a point |
| 21:31.34 | lestat | good to know :) |
| 21:31.49 | lestat | i really want to remove that audio cable in the middle of my living room ^^ |
| 21:32.05 | badcloud | but by crikey, next phone I'm getting will have a builtin hardware kbd (!!!) |
| 21:32.14 | lestat | heh |
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| 21:32.40 | lestat | i'm not using the openmoko as a phone, but i'm waiting for the htc desire to arrive @ home :D |
| 21:32.45 | badcloud | I can't tell how many times I've looked like a tool trying to imput text without a stylus |
| 21:32.52 | max_posedon | but, lestat where neo will output sound? |
| 21:33.04 | lestat | max_posedon: isn't there a mini jack ? |
| 21:33.05 | max_posedon | neo's headphone output really bad |
| 21:33.11 | lestat | awww |
| 21:33.17 | lestat | oh gnoes :( |
| 21:33.24 | badcloud | yeah, it is pretty sub-decent |
| 21:33.25 | max_posedon | audio from it really bad for some people |
| 21:33.26 | badcloud | bass sucks |
| 21:33.38 | badcloud | I mean, I use it for podcasts, max |
| 21:33.45 | badcloud | max as in maximum |
| 21:33.48 | badcloud | :P |
| 21:34.03 | lestat | you mean it's not ok to plug the openmoko on your hifi ? :( |
| 21:34.19 | max_posedon | yep, check it |
| 21:34.21 | badcloud | I've tried it before. recorded recitals sound ok |
| 21:34.23 | max_posedon | its really sucks |
| 21:34.38 | badcloud | but I'm sure that music with a lot of layers won't |
| 21:34.45 | lestat | mmm right, that's a cheap test i can try |
| 21:35.03 | lestat | aww so disapointed :< |
| 21:35.20 | badcloud | lestat: sorry man |
| 21:35.42 | lestat | badcloud: no worries, i prefer to hear that now, rather than being disapointed after losing this much time ^ |
| 21:35.45 | lestat | ^^ |
| 21:35.51 | badcloud | not many plusses to the fr apart from being completely open, is there, max_posedon? |
| 21:35.56 | badcloud | lestat: true |
| 21:36.13 | max_posedon | badcloud, I think its many for me |
| 21:36.19 | badcloud | max_posedon: touche |
| 21:37.51 | lestat | any idea what kind of device i could use with decent audio ? |
| 21:37.58 | badcloud | I think I'd be on the same page if I knew more about programming/hacking/etc. |
| 21:37.59 | lestat | not too expensive |
| 21:38.22 | badcloud | lestat: would it have to be a quasi-pda/smartphone? |
| 21:38.48 | lestat | badcloud: nah just a minimal not too expensive, not too power sucking device |
| 21:39.04 | lestat | with decent audio and wifi |
| 21:39.14 | lestat | (running linux of course :P) |
| 21:39.45 | max_posedon | I suggest one of the guruplug family |
| 21:39.57 | badcloud | lestat: I got an idea, but give me a sec |
| 21:40.23 | lestat | mm let me check what is this |
| 21:40.27 | max_posedon | guruplug display have even hdmi, some versions have wifi/bluetooth |
| 21:40.46 | max_posedon | its sheevaplug2.0, price 99$-170$ depend on configuration |
| 21:40.55 | max_posedon | and really powerfull(arm based) |
| 21:41.06 | max_posedon | 1.2Ghz + 512Mb DDR2 ram |
| 21:41.48 | badcloud | here: http://hackaday.com/2005/03/13/300gig-ipod/ |
| 21:42.08 | lestat | neat |
| 21:42.30 | badcloud | here's another http://hackaday.com/2004/12/28/linux-your-ipod/ |
| 21:42.48 | badcloud | might be outdated though |
| 21:43.08 | badcloud | a *little* ;) |
| 21:43.28 | lestat | badcloud: nice, but i guess i hate apple too much to buy anything from them :P |
| 21:44.08 | badcloud | lestat: I get that mind body and soul |
| 21:44.20 | lestat | :] |
| 21:44.22 | badcloud | down with the Fischer Price of computing! |
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| 21:44.52 | max_posedon | I still suggest guruplugs) |
| 21:45.59 | lestat | max_posedon: yeah looking at it looks awesome |
| 21:46.51 | badcloud | looks pretty cool |
| 21:47.05 | badcloud | another option is to get a router with usb |
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| 21:47.16 | badcloud | get a good usb sound card |
| 21:47.24 | badcloud | openwrt on it, and walla |
| 21:47.31 | badcloud | or vwalla |
| 21:47.34 | badcloud | whatever |
| 21:47.40 | max_posedon | good usb sound card with firmware which works with mips hardware |
| 21:47.46 | max_posedon | it might not be so easy |
| 21:47.52 | badcloud | I've done it before |
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| 21:48.06 | badcloud | but a one piece makes more sence |
| 21:48.10 | badcloud | *sense |
| 21:48.16 | badcloud | if the price is right |
| 21:48.23 | max_posedon | nice, but I still suggest guruplug, it can do *a lot of work* in same time) |
| 21:49.40 | lestat | badcloud: voila :P |
| 21:50.23 | badcloud | lestat: that's what I was fumbling for |
| 21:50.29 | lestat | :) |
| 21:52.15 | badcloud | gonna go to bed. drop by and tell us what you ended up getting/doing, lestat :) |
| 21:52.25 | lestat | sure no problem :) |
| 21:52.27 | lestat | have a nice sleep |
| 21:52.33 | badcloud | merci |
| 21:52.36 | badcloud | :) |
| 21:52.37 | lestat | ^^ |
| 21:54.17 | lestat | max_posedon: about the neorunner sound device, is it a hardware problem ? or firmware/software |
| 21:54.27 | lestat | *freerunner |
| 21:54.52 | max_posedon | lestat, hardware |
| 21:55.05 | lestat | ok |
| 21:55.14 | max_posedon | you will find reports if google "neo freerunner bass problem |
| 21:55.30 | max_posedon | as I know latest versions of Neo have better quality |
| 21:55.35 | max_posedon | but problem still exists |
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| 22:13.45 | lestat | max_posedon: i can find links for a sheevaplug with only ethernet, but not the one with wifi :( |
| 22:14.13 | lestat | oh |
| 22:14.15 | lestat | nm |
| 22:14.16 | lestat | got it |
| 22:14.17 | max_posedon | lestat, I said |
| 22:14.20 | max_posedon | "guruplug" |
| 22:14.26 | max_posedon | its next version of sheevaplug |
| 22:14.28 | max_posedon | ) |
| 22:15.00 | lestat | oh sorry you said sheevaplug2 |
| 22:15.25 | lestat | well you said both |
| 22:15.29 | max_posedon | ) |
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| 23:33.36 | Tembo | hi |
| 23:33.42 | Tembo | anyone there? |
| 23:33.54 | SpeedEvil | no. |
| 23:33.58 | SpeedEvil | I'm here, not there. |
| 23:34.19 | Tembo | Speed can you giveme a hand on a neo1973? |
| 23:34.43 | Tembo | I got a debian leny |
| 23:34.44 | Tembo | installed with all stuff needed |
| 23:34.44 | SpeedEvil | What's the issue |
| 23:34.55 | Tembo | but can't reflash the neo1973 with a debug card v3 |
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| 23:35.09 | SpeedEvil | Why not? |
| 23:35.42 | Tembo | I got message like this |
| 23:35.45 | Tembo | hold on |
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| 23:49.04 | Tembo | with openocd 0.4.0 can be done the reflash? |
| 23:49.29 | Tembo | all openocd.cfg example I found is with older version |
| 23:50.08 | Tembo | I think my problem is that I got a discharged battery |
| 23:50.14 | Tembo | and have no way to charge it |
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