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04:30.01playyato you used the correct root option?
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16:28.16roolysooooo
16:30.12roolyanyone know where a decent elementary tutorial is?
16:30.33roolyelementary c++ tutorial just shows me beginner programming tutorials
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16:33.14Heinervdmrooly: there is just the wiki page and the docu about elementary
16:33.38roolyso your  telling me that effectively no-one uses it
16:34.32Heinervdmrooly: no, only that there is not much docu about it
16:34.35Heinervdmhttp://docs.enlightenment.org/auto/elementary/index.html
16:34.57Heinervdmhttp://trac.enlightenment.org/e/wiki/Elementary
16:35.53Heinervdmrooly: the wiki page has a sort of tutorial
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16:51.04chomwitthi. in shr-t in contacts the contacts from sim are in duplicates of 5-6!
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17:15.48Q-Masterpanicking_mike: can you help me a bit?
17:16.38panicking_mikeon what?
17:17.25Q-MasterI've tried to install android on uSD but seems that new images differ much from old ones
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17:18.02panicking_mikeSorry I need to reflash my device because I'm working on another one
17:18.08panicking_mikeI will spend some time tomorrow
17:18.15panicking_mikeand take a look at the open issue
17:18.20panicking_mikethat we have in the project
17:18.50Q-Masterok. can you tomorrow make for me a root image of android just tar.gzipped?
17:19.15panicking_mikefor the sdcard
17:19.16panicking_mikeboot
17:19.18panicking_mike?
17:19.38Q-MasterI wanna make it booting from uSD
17:19.44panicking_mikeok
17:19.47Q-Masterso I just neet to play with it
17:19.51panicking_mikecupcake
17:19.53panicking_mikeor eclair
17:19.54panicking_mike?
17:20.00Q-Masterwhat's better?
17:20.31panicking_mikeDo you want to use one or two partition
17:20.33panicking_mike?
17:20.42panicking_mikeI prefer cupcake
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17:21.01Q-MasterI'm using one. and mount fat as the /sdcard
17:22.00panicking_mikeok
17:22.13Q-Masterthanks
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17:30.18PaulFertserpanicking_mike: hey :) Man, where did your cool nick go? ;)
17:30.42panicking_mikebecause I loose my password
17:30.43panicking_mike:D
17:30.56panicking_mikeI saw the patch
17:30.58panicking_mikeon wifi
17:31.01panicking_mikeabout the raice
17:31.03panicking_mikerace
17:31.08panicking_mikebut I prefer my patch
17:31.26panicking_mikeThat patch reduce only the window
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17:33.12PaulFertserpanicking_mike: do you mean my stupid patch? Sure, i think i labeled it clearly as being stupid.
17:33.41panicking_mikeBTW
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17:33.44panicking_mikehow are you?
17:34.41PaulFertserpanicking_mike: i'm ok :) writing an emacs UI for FSO :)))
17:35.04PaulFertserpanicking_mike: how're your secret projects? ;)
17:35.54panicking_mikegood
17:36.04panicking_mikeI'm working on a new mobile
17:36.08panicking_mikeporting android
17:36.28PaulFertserHeh, we have so completely different goals :)))
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18:02.56roolyanybody know of a light email client running in elementary?
18:03.10roolysimilar to the messages app hopefully
18:17.45LionKMPHi, I run 3 commands (from wiki) each time I connect FR to my Mandriva to share network. How can I make these 3 lines "static" in the settings? These are:
18:18.17LionKMPiptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.0/24         sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1           ip addr add 192.168.0.200/24 dev eth3
18:18.42LionKMP(the system keeps eth3, what I lose is "sharing the network connection" (or forwarding)
18:19.57badcloudhey all. I replaced the default /etc/freesmartphone/opim/pim.db with mine, but no contacts are showing up
18:20.04badcloudwhich daemon do I need to restart?
18:20.33Heinervdmframeworkd
18:21.23badcloudHeinervdm: thanks
18:22.09badcloud...didn't seem to do the job... :(
18:22.54Heinervdmbadcloud: you should stop frameworkd replace the file and then start it again
18:23.01badcloudgotcha
18:23.03badcloudthanks
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18:24.52badcloudstopped, rm'ed, cp'ed, started, nothing :(
18:25.11Heinervdmhmm strange
18:25.19badcloudlatest testing
18:25.26Heinervdmah, phoneuid has cached the list too
18:25.46Heinervdmif opimd sends no update signal it doesn't refresh the list
18:27.44badcloudHeinervdm, mrmoku, whichever of you guys is free, can't find phoneuid or opimd in init.d
18:28.08mrmokubadcloud: it get's started via X session script
18:28.16mrmokubadcloud: restart X
18:28.37Heinervdmopimd is part of frameworkd
18:28.54badcloudI'll try
18:29.54badcloudthere they are :)
18:30.00badcloudthanks (both of you)
18:31.53badcloudummm, not to be a stick in the mud, but I've been having this strange problem both with latest testing and unstable
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18:32.17badcloud1 out of 3 startups, gsm won't register + cannot be switched on in settings
18:36.04badcloudseems very like http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/1079
18:37.03zubbadcloud: I was seeing such issue with unstable too
18:37.21badcloudzub: is there a workaround?
18:37.34badcloudseems to me maybe one of the phone daemons isn't running
18:38.00zubthat was my impression too, but I never got to invetigate
18:38.11zubthe bug would trigger usually when I was desperate to make a call :)
18:38.27badcloudstarted phonesfod and framewordkd with no errors (meaning they weren't running)
18:38.30badcloudnothing changed
18:38.38zubit seemed that when the phone on startup was more busy (doing something in the GUI) right after startup - the probabily of that happening increased
18:38.48badcloudI see
18:39.13badcloudwhat are the other phonefunctioning-related daemons?
18:39.15zublet my try current u, if I still can reproduce
18:39.49badcloudI think it has to do with the daemon which registers the GSM network
18:39.55badcloudmy sms' are appearing in list
18:40.02badcloudI assume they're still stored in sim
18:40.24badcloudwhich means the sim card was accessed successfully
18:43.39badcloudzu, anything
18:43.40badcloud?
18:44.52badcloudzu! frameworkd was the culprit
18:45.02zubmissing my "b"? :)
18:45.12badcloudyou need to kill it after grep'ing for it in ps
18:45.18badcloudb??
18:45.21zubI'm doing upgrade first, then will try few boots
18:45.29zubnever mind
18:45.41badcloudthe start/stop daemon is not killing frameworkd properly
18:46.19badcloudso you just kill it (after you find it via ps), start it and just wait for the GSM to register
18:46.22badcloud:)
18:46.46badcloudare you devs getting any o' dis'??
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18:47.10zubthat's a workaround. but what is it that happens on the boot?
18:48.32badcloudgood point
18:48.43badcloudmaybe I'll post some of this in the ticket
18:49.33badcloudseems like they closed http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/1079
18:49.42badcloudis there a ticket for this???
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18:51.53PBeckhi
18:54.54badcloudzub: http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/1095
18:55.01badcloudif you care to add your experiences :)
18:55.08badcloudPBeck: hey there
18:55.23PBeckhi badcloud
18:55.34zubbadcloud: ok, if I find anything, I add it there
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19:00.11badcloudPBeck: what's up?
19:01.42PBeckbadcloud: not much
19:01.50PBeckbadcloud: my n900 is running very well ;)
19:03.16roolyokay, so anyone familiar with coding for e?
19:04.10PBeckin c?
19:04.50badcloudPBeck: nice
19:04.56badcloudI envy the physical kbd
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19:05.52roolyyeah
19:05.57roolyc, c++, whatever
19:06.10PBeckbadcloud: :)
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19:06.29PBeckrooly: python bindings are also available
19:06.40roolynot interested in python
19:06.50roolyaltho, i am aware of that
19:07.09PBeckthe best scripting language ever!
19:08.26roolylol
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19:09.54roolyanyway, i'm trying to start a little app, and when i call elm_win_add it sends a callback from the library saying it can't create a window
19:12.35roolyany ideas PBeck?
19:13.16roolyERR:elementary elm_win.c:377 elm_win_add() Cannot create window
19:13.18rooly's al i get
19:15.53PBeckrooly: how you start the app?
19:17.34roolyhttp://pastebin.com/J8AgH4CD
19:18.53PBecknot the code - how you start it in the console?
19:18.57PBeckabout ssh?
19:19.14roolyoh, i'm trying to run this locally
19:19.24roolyi don't get the same error on the phone, it just doesn't draw anything
19:20.10roolywhich mind you, lemme go check now
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19:21.19Heinervdmwhy #ifndef ELM_LIB_QUICKLAUNCH ?
19:21.58roolyhonestly, iunno
19:22.03roolycan't find any docs on e
19:22.22roolyso i figured i'd copy some lines from a program that i know compiles and displays, shr-launcher
19:22.30rooly(and is in c)
19:23.18HeinervdmThat's nearly the first example from here: http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/wiki/Elementary
19:23.28Heinervdmbut there you don't have the ifndef
19:24.09roolykk, well removed
19:24.13roolydoesn't change anything
19:24.17PBeckrooly: hum i am not a c coder, sorry
19:24.28roolykk, PBeck, thanks anyway
19:24.55PBeckrooly: i am not familiar with the e docs. I had no success with the python docs
19:25.03PBecki love gtk anyway ;)
19:26.20Heinervdmrooly: what version of efl do you have on your desktop?
19:26.30rooly16 i think
19:26.54HeinervdmI think there is no elementary in E16, isn't it?
19:27.13HeinervdmWe are using latest E17 with SHR
19:27.20Heinervdmor nearly latest
19:29.16roolyi think it might have something to do with my desktop not having elementary as the window manager
19:31.13roolyokay, well it works now
19:31.20roolythanks for that link Heinervdm
19:33.13zubbadcloud: after upgrade I'm unable to boot and not get a PIN dialog. On the other hand, I'm getting unknown error after I enter the PIN.
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19:58.48badcloudzub: be back in an hour +-
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20:18.14zubbadcloud: huh I was confusing, I wanted to say I'm unable to reproduce the no-sim-dialog-on-boot issue
20:18.59zuband often after entering PIN I get "unknown error" + PIN dialog hangs (can't be closed)
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20:42.40badcloudzub: sounds like *maybe* a variation on the bug I'm experiencing (I don't use PIN encryption)
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21:10.06zubbadcloud: I see some such thing being discussed on shr-user
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21:31.09badcloudzub: thanks for the tip
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21:48.03chomwitthow can i export my sim data to a file in order to edit it with a pim manager in my debian host. i tried pisi with no lukc
21:48.04chomwitt?
21:50.12tim_abelli don't have much luck with wifi... http://www.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/1096
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22:42.27tim_abellwhy does enlightenment keep crashing?
22:44.17tim_abellc.f. http://www.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/1096
22:45.16tim_abellmeh
22:45.19tim_abellbed time
22:45.21tim_abelllaters
22:45.34tim_abellat least i've sorted out the dimming crazyness
22:45.43tim_abelland iliwi seems to work better than mokonnect
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