| 00:04.03 | CIA-52 | openmoko: 03werner * r5475 10/trunk/gta02-core/docs/ecn/ (STATUS ecn0023.txt ecn0030.txt ecn0031.txt): |
| 00:04.03 | CIA-52 | openmoko: - new ECN0030: Replace Calypso with Telit GE865 |
| 00:04.03 | CIA-52 | openmoko: - cancelled ECN0023: don't need to fix Calypso if we remove it |
| 00:04.03 | CIA-52 | openmoko: - docs/ecn/STATUS: added list of open ECNs, with subsystem they mainly affect |
| 00:04.05 | CIA-52 | openmoko: - new ECN0031: Use codec to detect jack insertion and HOLD button |
| 00:04.15 | Slaxxer | which date was on primarily? |
| 00:04.32 | Slaxxer | old shr? |
| 00:05.40 | Slaxxer | just flash the latest |
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| 00:34.10 | hipitihop | Slaxxer: sorry, was that aimed at me ? |
| 00:40.22 | hipitihop | anyway, contacts.log only claims Segmentation Fault with no further details :-( |
| 00:51.19 | hipitihop | dmesg shows "Alignment trap: shr-contacts (1633) PC=0x402e0270 Instr=0xe5900000 Address=0x00000001 FSR 0x013" |
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| 01:08.29 | hipitihop | what is the correct way to set timezone in shr-u ? |
| 01:09.29 | SpeedEvil | Get on a flight so that you are in the correct timezone of course. |
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| 01:42.59 | hipitihop | I changed my rendiring engine to xrandr and now elinghtenment segfaults.. how ccan I reset via an ssh session ? |
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| 02:02.14 | hipitihop | The following command from wiki sets to the faster sowtware renderer 'echo -e "#!/bin/sh\n\nexport ELM_ENGINE=x11-16" > /etc/profile.d/set-elm-engine.sh' what is the equvalent to set back to default ? |
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| 02:06.16 | hipitihop | any shr-u people here ? I need to reset my enlightenment engine and settings back to default as it always segfaults, any ideas ? |
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| 02:17.57 | chocotuar | I'm trying to write a new keyboard for FSO releases. where would I put the executable OR what script do I point in the direction of where I keep the keyboard? |
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| 05:51.35 | PaulFertser | hipitihop: usually it's adviced to remove ~/.e |
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| 06:05.00 | hipitihop | PaulFertser: indeed that got me back, many thanks |
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| 06:05.59 | ndnihil | ooh, let me guess without scrolling back, you had the looping E-crash of death? |
| 06:06.35 | hipitihop | hands ndnihil a prize |
| 06:08.58 | Kero | 2nd solution did not fix WSOD :( |
| 06:11.03 | Slaxxer | kero u have Qi? |
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| 06:11.56 | Kero | no, i have gta01 |
| 06:12.06 | Slaxxer | o |
| 06:13.09 | Kero | my 1st solution works, but first estimate on that is that it reduces stand-by considerably. |
| 06:13.09 | PaulFertser | Kero: when i get gta01 i'll install qi there |
| 06:13.09 | Kero | PaulFertser: great! |
| 06:13.09 | PaulFertser | Kero: it already works good, some folks are using it. |
| 06:13.32 | Slaxxer | could that fix his white screen? |
| 06:14.07 | PaulFertser | Slaxxer: i doubt that but who knows... |
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| 06:23.00 | hipitihop | now does anyone know how to configure the three buttons at the bottom of the neo theme ? |
| 06:23.52 | PaulFertser | hipitihop: themes are hand-edited after decompiling with edje_decc |
| 06:24.50 | hipitihop | Paul I see, I thought I assumed it was preconfigured based on the screenshot on the wiki |
| 06:25.27 | hipitihop | on another topic. Is anyone else getting this from dmesg when using contacts or messages ? 'Alignment trap: shr-messages (2185) PC=0x400fc104 Instr=0xe7920104 Address=0x00000001 FSR 0x013' |
| 06:26.23 | Kero | would not expect upgrding from uBoot 131 to 132 to help with WSOD, either. |
| 06:27.06 | ndnihil | all the WSOD I got were related to the dist I was using at the time |
| 06:28.49 | hipitihop | so noone else here using shr-u and crashing contacts and messages |
| 06:29.24 | PaulFertser | hipitihop: yes, but that're warnings. And those shr apps are going to be deprecated anyway. |
| 06:29.43 | PaulFertser | hipitihop: contacts and messages might crash because your sim is not ready. |
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| 07:30.09 | bert_2 | I see fsousaged still isn't fixed in shr-unstable, so still no opkg upgrade ? |
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| 07:32.31 | PaulFertser | bert_2: i think it's safe now to opkg upgrade |
| 07:32.59 | bert_2 | PaulFertser, okey, I'll opkg upgrade later today then, thx |
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| 11:33.59 | gabriel | hi, i would like to know if possible, why now libgsmd is a part of FSO ? is it possible if i want to have only libgsmd ? (if i don't want the part of D-Bus interface, etc.) |
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| 11:36.52 | PaulFertser | gabriel: libgsmd is not part of FSO |
| 11:37.00 | PaulFertser | gabriel: FSO is a different attempt |
| 11:38.01 | gabriel | but in the SVN of openmoko, the libgsmd is now UNMAINTAINED : "This project is unmaintained now. The successor is ogsmd, which is part of the freesmartphone.org DBus framework. Please see http://www.freesmartphone.org" |
| 11:38.22 | gabriel | so i don't understand |
| 11:38.59 | PaulFertser | gabriel: it's not direct successor. It's is supposed to be used in the way similar to libgsmd. |
| 11:40.06 | gabriel | so ogsmd is a FSO version of gsmd, but gsmd is not maintained ? (ogsmd yes) |
| 11:41.05 | gabriel | in FSO, they call it "gsm daemon v2", so it's a bit confuse for me :) |
| 11:42.49 | PaulFertser | gabriel: consider ogsmd being an integral part of framework written from scratch and having nothing to do with original gsmd. |
| 11:43.47 | gabriel | currently, the only version of gsmd with dbus interface is provide by FSO right ? |
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| 11:45.26 | PaulFertser | gabriel: there's also pyneo project that also provides dbus interface. Also H:1 guys were working on "fixing" the old gsmd but i don't know the results. |
| 11:46.57 | gabriel | ok thanks for information :) |
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| 13:10.00 | cz_jc | Hello, is there a way to disable illume launcher and substitute it with e file manager ? |
| 13:10.15 | cz_jc | I REALLY googled a lot, I even peeked through the source and I can't figure it out :/ |
| 13:10.21 | cz_jc | any help is very much appreciated |
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| 13:14.55 | AntonTakk | cz_jc: iirc, you want the .Xsession file in root's home dir |
| 13:15.15 | cz_jc | AntonTakk, why root ? |
| 13:17.19 | AntonTakk | cause the whole thing runs as root, last i played, anyways |
| 13:17.30 | AntonTakk | might be in /etc thou |
| 13:17.46 | cz_jc | AntonTakk, I run Gentoo and my E runs as my user |
| 13:17.52 | gabriel | PaulFertser, i just look at a bit the repository of gsmd2, so if i understand, there is gsmd2 (an API to communicate with GSM via AT commands), libgsmd2 (a library for developper to interact with GSM) and libfreesmartphone (a dbus layer for applications communications), my question is : why not create a repository fso-libgsmd to seperate gsmd/libgsmd and the fso layer ? |
| 13:17.58 | AntonTakk | oh |
| 13:18.02 | cz_jc | only thing I start in my session is enlightenment_start |
| 13:18.07 | AntonTakk | you aren't using an om distro |
| 13:18.13 | cz_jc | AntonTakk, nope :) |
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| 13:18.43 | AntonTakk | just change e's config to remove the illume module, i believe |
| 13:18.43 | cz_jc | yeah, I serached /etc and ~/.e and found nothing of interest :/ |
| 13:18.58 | cz_jc | AntonTakk, yes I tried disabling it but if I do that, I also loose the top bar |
| 13:19.27 | cz_jc | I just want to rid of the launcher because it doesn't display .desktop files properly and I can't sort them or anything |
| 13:19.33 | AntonTakk | yep, that bar is part of illume :) |
| 13:20.02 | cz_jc | if I 'just' enable filemanager module, filemanager correctly displays but its above illume launcher.. |
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| 13:22.00 | dos1 | gabriel: what is gsmd2? |
| 13:22.12 | dos1 | cz_jc: you can configure that |
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| 13:22.25 | dos1 | search maillist for filemanager, it was described |
| 13:22.39 | cz_jc | dos1, will do, thanks :) |
| 13:22.42 | gabriel | dos1, the new version of gsmd maintained by FSO : http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=gsmd2.git;a=summary |
| 13:23.07 | dos1 | gabriel: i already saw sources |
| 13:23.20 | dos1 | gabriel: but i still don't know what exactly it is |
| 13:23.24 | dos1 | how it could be used |
| 13:23.27 | dos1 | and why it isn't |
| 13:23.52 | gabriel | dos1, it's libgsmd/gsmd rewrite from scratch et maintained :) |
| 13:23.59 | cz_jc | dos1, is it suppoed to be on OM mailing lists ? |
| 13:24.08 | dos1 | cz_jc: om or shr, dunno |
| 13:24.11 | cz_jc | dos1, its not there :/ |
| 13:24.12 | cz_jc | ok |
| 13:24.55 | dos1 | gabriel: are libgsmd apps from 2007.2 compatible with gsmd2? |
| 13:25.04 | cz_jc | dos1, yes its indeed in shr-devel list, thank you :) |
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| 13:25.25 | dos1 | gabriel: and is it supposed to work with ogsmd somehow? |
| 13:25.32 | AntonTakk | any one happen to have tried installing fso/om200x on a rooted g1? |
| 13:25.34 | gabriel | dos1, i really don't know, i try to understand the architecture and choice, and i dont use 2007.2 |
| 13:25.48 | gabriel | dos1, ogsmd <=> gsmd2 no ? |
| 13:25.53 | dos1 | dunno |
| 13:25.55 | dos1 | i'm asking :D |
| 13:26.05 | dos1 | well, ogsmd != gsmd2 |
| 13:26.14 | dos1 | ogsmd is in python and it's in framework.git repository |
| 13:26.30 | dos1 | gsmd2 isn't used in FSO images |
| 13:26.34 | dos1 | that's why i'm asking |
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| 13:27.55 | gabriel | i really don't know all the choice of FSO, really hard to understand |
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| 15:20.21 | PaulFertser | gabriel: FSO doesn't use gsmd2 |
| 15:21.36 | gabriel | PaulFertser, look at the repository, in the gsmd2, you have libfreesmartphone |
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| 15:22.55 | PaulFertser | gabriel: look at the last commit date... |
| 15:23.33 | gabriel | yes but it's maintained no ? |
| 15:23.45 | PaulFertser | gabriel: i don't think it's used anywhere. |
| 15:23.50 | gabriel | where can i find a gsmd/libgsmd maintained ? |
| 15:24.17 | PaulFertser | gabriel: from hackable:1 folks. |
| 15:24.33 | PaulFertser | gabriel: but most people switched to FSO |
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| 15:24.53 | gabriel | yes but FSO use a gsmd/libgsmd no ? |
| 15:25.00 | PaulFertser | gabriel: FSO doesn't |
| 15:25.00 | gabriel | FSO is just a dbus interface ? |
| 15:25.26 | gabriel | (FSO/gsmd) |
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| 15:25.50 | PaulFertser | gabriel: yes, FSO is dbus interface to common "smartphone" functionality. |
| 15:26.31 | gabriel | so there is a daemon to AT command, init GSM, communicate with GSM no ? |
| 15:27.05 | gabriel | if i don't want the dbus interface and just the lib, where can i find this lib (use by FSO) |
| 15:27.47 | PaulFertser | gabriel: FSO provides everything through dbus interface. Why don't you want to just use the dbus API? |
| 15:28.38 | gabriel | because i try to understand :), for example, if i don't want the dbus API and just the lib to communicate with GSM |
| 15:28.53 | gabriel | if i want to code my dbus API too |
| 15:29.01 | gabriel | (it's just an example ... :)) |
| 15:29.16 | gabriel | (i don't really want to do that) |
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| 15:31.20 | PaulFertser | gabriel: FSO is currently implemented in python. You can't just "link" with it. |
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| 15:32.08 | gabriel | but we can't directly communicate with the GSM in Python ? |
| 15:32.42 | PaulFertser | gabriel: dbus is not _that_ indirect |
| 15:34.08 | gabriel | dbus provide us a service to allow the communication between application, but we need to have a daemon/lib to initialise/communicate with the GSM, dbus don't know how to do that no ? |
| 15:35.13 | PaulFertser | gabriel: FSO gives you frameworkd -- the daemon that knows how to talk to modem. |
| 15:35.15 | cz_jc | hello, is there a way to force e17 filemanager to run a shell script? |
| 15:35.34 | cz_jc | I have a shell script on my desktop and I can't run it neither directly, nor with open with->bash |
| 15:36.03 | gabriel | PaulFertser, frameworkd ? ah i don't know, thanks, i go look at about that :) |
| 15:36.29 | PaulFertser | gabriel: just read the API at http://docs.freesmartphone.org |
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| 15:47.44 | cz_jc | figured it out, .desktop file exec= line accepts just about anything, which means per application environment is possible :) |
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| 16:04.36 | Slaxxer | what is the reason that computers use 8 bit-- 16bit--32bit--64bit instruction sets would it not be better to use an instruction set that has multiples of 10 ,,or does it just not mater? |
| 16:04.51 | Slaxxer | t |
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| 16:08.15 | SpeedEvil | Because 10 does not divide nicely in binary |
| 16:08.43 | SpeedEvil | a counter to 10 has to - in binary - have 4 values |
| 16:08.52 | SpeedEvil | err - 4 digits |
| 16:09.00 | SpeedEvil | this means that it can effectively count up to 16 |
| 16:11.01 | Weiss | i don't think it actually matters. a "byte" doesn't necessarily have to have eight bits |
| 16:11.50 | SpeedEvil | not 8 bits - no. |
| 16:12.10 | SpeedEvil | however - there are inefficiencies if the addressing space - not the word length - is not a power of 2 |
| 16:13.01 | cz_jc | Slaxxer, hehe some PIC microcontrollers have stupid 14bit instruction sets |
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| 16:13.13 | SpeedEvil | yeah - that's not the addressing space though |
| 16:13.21 | cz_jc | no, thats even more stupid |
| 16:13.24 | cz_jc | its banked |
| 16:13.33 | SpeedEvil | you wouldn't call one of the 14 bit instruction set PICs a 14 bit micro. |
| 16:13.37 | SpeedEvil | It's an 8 bit micro |
| 16:13.43 | SpeedEvil | With 14 bit instructions. |
| 16:13.48 | cz_jc | after BSF STATUS,RP0, I basically switched architectures :) |
| 16:13.59 | SpeedEvil | The datapath is entirely 8 bit. |
| 16:14.01 | cz_jc | SpeedEvil, data are 8 bits wide, thats true |
| 16:14.10 | SpeedEvil | As is the ALU, ..... |
| 16:14.15 | cz_jc | yes |
| 16:14.29 | cz_jc | and addresss space is banked and also 8 bit |
| 16:14.39 | SpeedEvil | yeah |
| 16:14.41 | cz_jc | they also have just a single 8bit register |
| 16:14.50 | cz_jc | (that can be used in instructions) |
| 16:15.15 | cz_jc | AVR on the other hand have 32, with 'only' 16 of them for some load operations |
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| 16:15.38 | cz_jc | ARM have 16 in ARM mode if you don't count different operating modes |
| 16:15.58 | SpeedEvil | thumb |
| 16:16.10 | cz_jc | 8051 have also several registers |
| 16:16.11 | SpeedEvil | x86 even has some 8 bit instructions. |
| 16:16.27 | cz_jc | just and only the stupid PICs are widespread and really braindead |
| 16:16.34 | Weiss | SpeedEvil: hmm.. what kind of inefficiencies? |
| 16:16.56 | SpeedEvil | For example. |
| 16:17.18 | lindi- | cz_jc: in ARM mode? |
| 16:17.20 | SpeedEvil | You have - say - a 10 bit instruction - with 4 bits of this instruction a destination. |
| 16:18.09 | SpeedEvil | It can efficiently address 16 addresses - if you only have 10 - you've wasted part of the bit used to specify. |
| 16:18.13 | cz_jc | lindi, yes, in ARM mode there are 16 23bit general purpose registers |
| 16:18.18 | cz_jc | *32bit |
| 16:18.27 | cz_jc | *accessible |
| 16:18.50 | lindi- | cz_jc: but what's ARM mode? you mean user mode? |
| 16:19.04 | Weiss | we won't talk about ARM3's 26-bit program counter :) |
| 16:19.14 | cz_jc | lindi, there are 2 instruction set modes in most arm mcus - arm and thumb |
| 16:19.18 | SpeedEvil | Weiss: or as another example - you want to add two 16 bit numbers. If you have a 14 bit datapath - that gets really hard. |
| 16:19.23 | lindi- | cz_jc: ah |
| 16:19.25 | cz_jc | thumb is just mostly 16bit instructions thats translated to arm on the fly |
| 16:19.37 | lindi- | cz_jc: my docs say "normal" and "thumb" |
| 16:19.45 | cz_jc | lindi, ok then lets say normal :D |
| 16:19.53 | SpeedEvil | It's not a major issue - past architectures have had 36 bits forex. |
| 16:19.55 | cz_jc | execution modes is something different - user, abort, system and stuff |
| 16:20.19 | cz_jc | of course none of those 8bits have those |
| 16:20.32 | lindi- | cz_jc: yep |
| 16:21.11 | cz_jc | btw if anyone wants I wrote a simple C program that boots up on FR and draws image on framebuffer :) |
| 16:21.18 | cz_jc | for a bare metal application skeleton sake ;) |
| 16:22.21 | lindi- | cz_jc: cool, please put it to wiki |
| 16:22.33 | Weiss | SpeedEvil: hmm.. but surely you couldn't have just ten addresses in your address space if binary is being used to do the addressing? |
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| 16:23.16 | cz_jc | lindi, some other is already there, I modified that one but that one just blinked LED |
| 16:23.28 | cz_jc | lindi, sorry that was for lindi- |
| 16:24.01 | cz_jc | only additional stuff is drawing to framebuffer and converting a .png image to raw and then .o file and embedding into binary |
| 16:24.10 | lindi- | quits his backup irc client.. |
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| 16:24.43 | cz_jc | lindi-, hey youre finnish? :D |
| 16:24.55 | SpeedEvil | Weiss: Sure - it's not very inefficient - but typically you want to optimise it as hard as you can. - the core of the chip. |
| 16:24.57 | cz_jc | lindi-, thats cool, I use perkele all the time :D my favorite swearword |
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| 16:25.59 | lindi- | cz_jc: yep, I my internet connection has been very unstable recently since the cellar got flooded |
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| 16:26.47 | cz_jc | lindi-, that sucks.. we have floods here too... |
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| 16:28.36 | Weiss | r.e. ARM modes and thumb etc: to avoid confusion, talk about ARM or Thumb "state", and user/supervisor/abort/system/interrupt/FIQ "mode". that way you'll stay sane |
| 16:29.02 | cz_jc | right :D |
| 16:29.03 | Weiss | there's also Jazelle state for running Java bytecode in hardware |
| 16:29.11 | cz_jc | which isn't documented |
| 16:29.17 | Weiss | exactly. |
| 16:29.29 | cz_jc | also thumb2 in newer arms, right ? |
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| 16:30.24 | Weiss | i'm not sure if that's a separate state, or just more instructions, but yes |
| 16:30.47 | cz_jc | what more could they fit into the old thumb ;) |
| 16:30.49 | cz_jc | its crammed :D |
| 16:31.05 | Weiss | hehe |
| 16:31.26 | Weiss | i used to write ARM assembly language by hand, but Thumb (1) came along long after i did that |
| 16:31.30 | cz_jc | 16 bits is basically avr instruction width |
| 16:31.43 | cz_jc | .. in a 32bit processor, hehe |
| 16:32.30 | cz_jc | Weiss, I'm still not comfortable with all those on the fly alu operations on instructions |
| 16:32.39 | cz_jc | but its like really cool |
| 16:34.14 | Weiss | cz_jc: let's see if i can still do this.... ADD r0, r1, r2 LSR #2 ... ? |
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| 16:34.33 | cz_jc | Weiss, yes, LSR is one of them I think |
| 16:34.43 | cz_jc | there are several shift |
| 16:34.49 | cz_jc | but I know one direction for one kind is missing |
| 16:35.55 | lindi- | cz_jc: this one was just somebody who installed fiber there and did not prepare for the rain |
| 16:35.58 | Weiss | LDMIA r13!, {r0-r4, pc}^ (mm.. deprecated...) |
| 16:36.13 | lindi- | Weiss: very risc |
| 16:36.35 | Weiss | i've thoroughly forgotten all of this, but i think i'm better off now for having done it at one point |
| 16:36.39 | cz_jc | without ldmia, context switching would suck |
| 16:36.49 | cz_jc | on an architecture with 16 registers.. |
| 16:37.26 | cz_jc | avr context switching has heavy overhead with 2 instruction cycles per each push for each of 32 registers |
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| 16:37.37 | cz_jc | thats why freertos on avr sucks :/ |
| 16:39.07 | cz_jc | ARM has some neat auto bank switching on FIQ and some other modes though :) |
| 16:41.42 | Weiss | Andy wrote a post on his blog about using FIQ in Linux code.. it's a little "interesting" |
| 16:42.20 | lindi- | Weiss: do you know if andy's "FIQ in C" code is ever going upstream? |
| 16:42.37 | Weiss | no idea, i'm afraid |
| 16:42.49 | Weiss | i'm only a pretend kernel hacker :) |
| 16:43.01 | Weiss | (i think everyone is, really) |
| 16:43.16 | cz_jc | Weiss, noo I'm not even pretend :D |
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| 16:43.56 | cz_jc | I think all that bank switching is only necessary if you really need to do something really fast on FIQ interrupt |
| 16:44.47 | Weiss | what kind of bank switching are we talking about here? |
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| 16:44.55 | cz_jc | on AT91SAM7S and similar you'd use it to store on the fly information when feeding some peripherals and setting up DMA all the time |
| 16:45.09 | cz_jc | because its clock is very slow |
| 16:45.27 | cz_jc | Weiss, some registers get automatically bank switched when you switch to FIQ mode |
| 16:45.53 | cz_jc | Weiss, that means when FIQ occurs, you don't need to do context saving if you don't tamper with those that don't |
| 16:46.54 | Weiss | hmm yeah |
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| 16:49.06 | cz_jc | it could be useful on systems with slow memory buses |
| 16:49.22 | cz_jc | no saving registers = no memory access |
| 16:49.48 | cz_jc | but on the other hand, you need to load program anyway |
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| 16:53.30 | PBeck | hi |
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| 17:17.39 | CIA-52 | openmoko: 03werner * r5476 10/trunk/gta02-core/docs/GETTING-STARTED: - "make dep" makes a lot more sense than "make del", as Nathael pointed out ;-) |
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| 17:33.29 | CIA-52 | openmoko: 03werner * r5477 10/trunk/gta02-core/docs/GETTING-STARTED: - GETTING-STARTED: added fped build prerequisites |
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| 18:04.20 | blan | hej, is Golden Delicious a serious distributor? |
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| 19:20.33 | Gropi | How would I find out which hardware version of the FreeRunner I got delivered. The backside says GTA02. |
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| 19:22.27 | Kero | look inside for model name; cat /proc/cpuinfo; probably other ways, too. |
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| 19:39.42 | Slaxxer | 6 or 7 |
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| 20:00.42 | daniel32708 | has the sms-sentry application added the feature that if it detects a different SIM it will send its new gps position? |
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| 20:36.36 | daniel32708 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:42.56 | CIA-52 | openmoko: 03werner * r5478 10/trunk/eda/fped/ (18 files): (log message trimmed) |
| 20:42.56 | CIA-52 | openmoko: We can now generate part families. |
| 20:42.56 | CIA-52 | openmoko: - README: added build prerequisites |
| 20:42.56 | CIA-52 | openmoko: - "part name" is now more correctly called "package name" |
| 20:42.56 | CIA-52 | openmoko: - changed keyword "part" to "package" |
| 20:42.57 | CIA-52 | openmoko: - removed inst_debug and struct inst_ops.debug functions - never really used |
| 20:43.01 | CIA-52 | openmoko: them anyway |
| 20:45.44 | PaulFertser | BillK_: hey, ayt? |
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| 21:00.11 | CIA-52 | openmoko: 03werner * r5479 10/trunk/gta02-core/modules/ (INFO mkloe stdpass.fpd): |
| 21:00.11 | CIA-52 | openmoko: - made stdpass.fpd generate all its footprints (upgrade fped !) |
| 21:00.11 | CIA-52 | openmoko: - stdpass.fpd now has a slightly more sensible outline |
| 21:00.11 | CIA-52 | openmoko: - added stdpass to mkloe, so that it gets exercised |
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| 21:08.17 | Gropi | Slaxxer: should be 7 |
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| 21:21.59 | Slaxxer | so i take it there would be no advantage to use a 10bit multiples |
| 21:22.36 | Slaxxer | no simplification |
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| 21:26.12 | lindi- | Slaxxer: hmm? |
| 21:29.31 | lysgaard | Anyone upgraded SHR lately. The PIN dialog won't show for me. |
| 21:30.16 | PaulFertser | lysgaard: are you using gsm0710muxd or fso-abyss? |
| 21:30.48 | lysgaard | PaulFertser: how do i check? |
| 21:31.32 | PaulFertser | lysgaard: /etc/frameworkd.conf |
| 21:33.45 | lysgaard | PaulFertser: I'm aperently using fso-abyss |
| 21:34.31 | PaulFertser | lysgaard: check that you indeed don't have gsm0710muxd installed, opkg remove it just in case. |
| 21:37.45 | lysgaard | PaulFertser: Hmm. task-fso-compliance and mickeyterm depends on it. force? |
| 21:37.52 | PaulFertser | lysgaard: yes |
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| 21:38.35 | lysgaard | PaulFertser: Reboot, se if it's ok? |
| 21:39.02 | PaulFertser | lysgaard: well, at least restart frameworkd and then ophonekitd |
| 21:40.21 | lysgaard | PaulFertser: How do i start ophonokitd? |
| 21:40.35 | PaulFertser | lysgaard: well, you're shr user, not me |
| 21:40.45 | PaulFertser | lysgaard: (means sorry i don't know ask shr guys) |
| 21:40.56 | lysgaard | PaulFertser: Got it |
| 21:42.50 | lysgaard | I gotta say. Boot speed is getting better and better |
| 21:43.24 | daniel32708 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:46.06 | lysgaard | PaulFertser: Didn't do muck, but thanks anyway. |
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| 21:53.35 | tomcatek | do You know, that should I correct in configuration to have suspending back after SHR upgrade? |
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| 22:14.28 | dcordes | CVirus, how's it going? |
| 22:14.28 | CVirus | dcordes: not bad |
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| 22:28.08 | Sargun | Did they ever tell us what Project B was? |
| 22:28.21 | PaulFertser | Sargun: no |
| 22:28.50 | Sargun | ah |
| 22:28.52 | Sargun | :-( |
| 22:28.53 | PaulFertser | Sargun: it's known that it has nothing to do with telecommunications and that it doesn't run GNU/Linux. |
| 22:29.09 | Sargun | does it run Windows CE? |
| 22:29.37 | PaulFertser | Sargun: of course not, it's just a device simple enough to not need a full-featured OS. |
| 22:34.24 | dcordes | I heard it runs plan9 |
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