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| 15:54.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | wow, german "dealer legal warranty" (repair/replace free of charge) shall get extended from 6 months to 2 years, and even 5 years for supposedly long lifespan items |
| 15:54.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | this is a HUGE thing in my book |
| 15:55.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | right now it's 2 years already, but after 6 months customer has to prove that the defect was already in place at time of purchase |
| 15:56.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | now planned: customer never has to prove such thing and dealer has to repair stuff for free, for a 2 or even 5 year timespan |
| 15:58.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm just afraid that this will create an incentive for dealers to go out of business after maybe one year and start a new similar business |
| 15:59.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | in which case customers are screwed |
| 16:02.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | I guess not a single TV nowadays would qualify for getting sold under the extended expectable lifespan terms, IOW dealers would have to calculate with 90 to 100% of sold TVs returning for repair/replacement during 5 years |
| 16:03.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | this will change business a lot, right up to the manufacturers |
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