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| 10:53.36 | PaulFertser | Hi |
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| 10:55.59 | PaulFertser | Again the same question: after upgrading from pre-gdbus version of fsogsmd to a current git HEAD my Calypso often resumes due to : URC: [ "+CREG: 1,"690F","911F"" ] |
| 10:56.34 | PaulFertser | Even though the first command preparing to suspend was SRC: "+CREG=0" -> [ "OK" ] |
| 10:56.58 | lindi- | PaulFertser: maybe it was just in the queue already? |
| 10:58.44 | PaulFertser | lindi-: yes, may be, currently thinking about that . I'll paste a better log shortly. |
| 11:00.32 | lindi- | PaulFertser: I use ogsmd so I'm not sure if I have much time to do much with fso-gsmd |
| 11:04.23 | PaulFertser | lindi-: http://paste.debian.net/230027/ |
| 11:04.53 | PaulFertser | lindi-: please take a look, i guess it doesn't depend on the daemon much. |
| 11:06.14 | lindi- | PaulFertser: that does not mentnion 690f |
| 11:07.50 | lindi- | PaulFertser: I too get +CREG messages even after +CREG=0 |
| 11:09.13 | PaulFertser | lindi-: yes, i took an earlier example which had another +CREG report, sorry. But the one with 690F looks the same to me. |
| 11:09.35 | PaulFertser | lindi-: how do you avoid +CREG messages to skip unnecessary wakeup? |
| 11:09.45 | lindi- | PaulFertser: no idea |
| 11:09.54 | lindi- | PaulFertser: there are several commands sent before suspend |
| 11:10.23 | lindi- | PaulFertser: http://paste.debian.net/230029/ |
| 11:10.34 | PaulFertser | lindi-: hm, so after all the commands in your ogsmd you have no +CREG but +CREG=0 alone is not enough, do i understand you right? |
| 11:10.54 | lindi- | PaulFertser: I have not tested if it is enough alone |
| 11:11.40 | PaulFertser | lindi-: but with the set you've posted you do not get +CREG unsol. |
| 11:11.48 | lindi- | PaulFertser: correct |
| 11:12.06 | PaulFertser | lindi-: great, thank you for the hint! |
| 11:23.58 | PaulFertser | Probably the order matters... |
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| 17:25.10 | PaulFertser | lindi-: i think i know the answer: probably +CREG setting is per-channel, and it's =1 by default and the suspend sequence is done on one channel while i see unsol on another. |
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| 18:07.03 | PaulFertser | morphis: fa9cdf0455a5a6ca36b4b30f1c715e4cb318b047 is why i receive +CREG unsol on channel 2 because the suspend/resume sequence is done on channel 3, and default for every channel (in calypso fw i presume) is CREG=1. |
| 18:09.49 | PaulFertser | And before that my logs of cause had <0710:2>: SRC: "+CREG=2;+CREG?;+CREG=0" -> [ "+CREG: 2,1,"FDEB","1179"", "OK" ] and now CREG on chan 2 is not touched at all. |
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| 18:41.23 | PaulFertser | I wonder how the hell nobody's noticed that since March :/ |
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| 18:56.00 | PaulFertser | May but still meh |
| 18:57.12 | PaulFertser | I'll send a patch soon |
| 19:11.31 | Thamos | PaulFertser: So we had really much unnessecary wakeups on shr? i thought that was my subjective cognition... |
| 19:15.07 | Thamos | then i am looking forward to next update :) |
| 19:30.50 | PaulFertser | Thamos: lucky me i'm running with full fsogsmd DEBUG all the time so at least i had some clue :/ |
| 19:32.15 | Thamos | yeah, thanks to you we got it right now! :) |
| 19:32.52 | PaulFertser | I haven't tested it extensively yet, but it looks like the patch really fixes that. |
| 19:32.57 | Thamos | i just thought my battery is getting weaker |
| 19:33.23 | Thamos | all of my 3 batteries... |
| 19:33.35 | PaulFertser | I've already ordered a new battery btw :) |
| 19:34.06 | PaulFertser | Some cheapest BL-6C from ebay, should be good enough as my previous one (bought the same way) worked reasonably good. |
| 19:34.06 | Thamos | maybe you don't really need, with your new patch ^^ |
| 19:35.02 | Sicelo | what hardware is this battery used on? |
| 19:35.48 | PaulFertser | Thamos: i'm glad to hear i'm not the only one still using FSO, cheers :) |
| 19:35.54 | PaulFertser | Sicelo: gta02 |
| 19:35.57 | Thamos | ^^ |
| 19:36.34 | Sicelo | interesting. :-) |
| 19:36.38 | Thamos | i'm just now tinkering with navit for my first time. What is the current speech synthesizer in shr? i searched festival and espeak, but found nothing... |
| 19:36.57 | Thamos | i like the fso aproach. |
| 19:37.16 | Thamos | but i feel its lacking manpower... :( |
| 19:37.32 | PaulFertser | Thamos: do you have any pending FSO bugs? |
| 19:38.09 | Thamos | hm. sometime its hard to distinguish between fso and shr bugs... |
| 19:38.20 | Sicelo | is now interested in testing shr on his N900 |
| 19:39.02 | Thamos | i simply got too much crashes. This is the most negativ impact in my userexperience. |
| 19:39.15 | Thamos | mostly with incoming calls and sms. |
| 19:39.20 | PaulFertser | Thamos: fsogsmd crashing or what? |
| 19:39.29 | Thamos | whole phone. |
| 19:39.40 | Thamos | don't know from where exactly this comes. |
| 19:40.23 | PaulFertser | Thamos: i know only one bug regarding whole system stability: 2.6.39 hangs on resume sometimes (probably 1 out of 50). |
| 19:40.29 | Thamos | first i thought it may be related to suspend. But sometimes these crashes occour while i am using the phone, too. |
| 19:40.39 | Thamos | hm. |
| 19:40.57 | PaulFertser | In fact i had hangs during usage too, but probably on an earlier kernel. |
| 19:41.35 | Thamos | when i can still ping the phone on usb-network and display-dimming works, what could be the cause if nothing else responds (no ssh, no screen) |
| 19:41.43 | PaulFertser | Every time i upgrade i face new bugs, heh. At least i can debug some sometimes... |
| 19:42.19 | Thamos | yeah, at my place, too |
| 19:42.26 | Thamos | but i can't do much myself. |
| 19:42.41 | Thamos | i complain in shr trac |
| 19:43.08 | PaulFertser | I do not follow shr trac, i'm using FSO plus Emacs UI. |
| 19:43.19 | PaulFertser | I do not need SHR, i'm on plain Debian. |
| 19:43.20 | Thamos | emacs ui? |
| 19:43.36 | Thamos | i have never heard of... |
| 19:44.00 | Thamos | can you give me some link to screenshots or something? |
| 19:44.25 | PaulFertser | Thamos: https://github.com/paulfertser/fso-el/wiki |
| 19:45.08 | Thamos | oh, you are cooking your own soup ;) |
| 19:45.17 | PaulFertser | Thamos: i had to |
| 19:45.40 | Thamos | i like emacs, too. Have lately begun to use its calendar |
| 19:45.51 | Thamos | i am looking forward to experiment with it email. |
| 19:46.06 | PaulFertser | I have a nasty hack to make Emacs calendar a bit more usable on FR's narrow screen. |
| 19:46.24 | PaulFertser | Thamos: hm, if you like emacs please try my UI on SHR, i'm all open to suggestion. |
| 19:47.23 | PaulFertser | I use Gnus for some mailing lists via NNTP gmane.org, but so far i still find mutt easier for IMAP email. |
| 19:47.35 | Thamos | hm. I will. But don't know when. If you know german Fasnet, i like that very much, and after that i should stuff for universtity... |
| 19:47.53 | Thamos | mutt is with emacs, too? Or standalone? |
| 19:48.00 | PaulFertser | Mutt is standalone |
| 19:48.23 | PaulFertser | And Emacs's jabber.el lacks GPG support and no plans for anything like that, so i'm using mcabber. |
| 19:48.27 | Thamos | i rember i wanted to test that one day, too. But it somehow got along... |
| 19:49.03 | Thamos | you like console-tools very much =) |
| 19:49.25 | PaulFertser | Thamos: try org-mode too, that's really cool thing that can be used to structure one's thoughts. And to make todo-lists and to put deadlines and access your "agenda" if you feel like doing that. |
| 19:49.51 | PaulFertser | I even use emacs-w3m for the biggest part of my web-browsing, yes. |
| 19:50.06 | PaulFertser | I find it more comfortable. And i run most tools in screen on my home computer, accessing it via ssh. |
| 19:50.19 | Thamos | the more i use emacs, the more i get the meaning of the telling "it just can't make coffee, yet"... |
| 19:51.08 | PaulFertser | When i was writing fso.el, it was my first ELisp experience and even though it's clumsy by today's standards, i still enjoyed the process a lot. |
| 19:51.36 | Thamos | you use your homecomputer with screen over network on your freerunner? |
| 19:51.54 | PaulFertser | Emacs got lexical bindings for variables btw lately. |
| 19:52.14 | PaulFertser | Rarely, when i have no other means to access it, yes. |
| 19:53.09 | PaulFertser | "mosh" makes ssh less painful for slow networks but some environments filter ports :/ |
| 19:58.29 | Thamos | looks interessting |
| 19:58.58 | Thamos | my problem is, that it looks not very comfortable to use emacs without keyboard. |
| 19:59.19 | Thamos | and the keyboard on the phone is not really comfortable (in shr at least...) |
| 19:59.51 | Thamos | or is fso-el somehow making this easier? |
| 20:00.08 | Thamos | how do you use it? |
| 20:02.10 | Thamos | PaulFertser: still there? |
| 20:04.20 | PaulFertser | Thamos: yes |
| 20:05.13 | PaulFertser | Thamos: well, actually i'm using e17's keyboard and emacs'ing is not that bad with it. At least i never had a better experienced on a smartphone. |
| 20:06.25 | Thamos | ok, so you are using some kind of pen? Or is the e17's one not the same that uses shr? |
| 20:06.31 | PaulFertser | Thamos: also, most actions with fso-el can be performed by pressing on screen buttons, without the keyboard. |
| 20:07.01 | PaulFertser | Fingernails only, even when i cut them really short, are ok. |
| 20:07.23 | PaulFertser | Same as in SHr. |
| 20:08.04 | Thamos | i think my Display got bad. I can't really use my finger anymore. Only when i've got long fingernails... |
| 20:08.35 | Thamos | i rember that to be better in the first days. (or the jitter-correction had regression....) |
| 20:09.02 | PaulFertser | I do not press anything with the fingertips, only the tip of a fingernail is good. |
| 20:09.22 | Thamos | ah, ok. yeah, tips are really unusable. |
| 20:09.37 | Thamos | i dislike that fact a little. |
| 20:10.20 | PaulFertser | I dislike the fact that N900 is still not fully functional with sane software, it's keyboard is much better. |
| 20:11.07 | PaulFertser | its |
| 20:11.15 | Thamos | i think i will give emacs tomorrow a go. |
| 20:11.23 | Thamos | on my phone. |
| 20:11.36 | Sicelo | shut up!! :P |
| 20:11.44 | Thamos | ^^ |
| 20:12.07 | Sicelo | PaulFertser: ^^ |
| 20:12.36 | PaulFertser | I was very sceptical about Emacs with a virtual keyboard myself until i tried it. |
| 20:13.35 | PaulFertser | Sicelo: you're welcome to improve FSO support on N900, it seems that almost all needed bits are there. |
| 20:14.16 | Thamos | my project for now: has anybody any idea how i can get navit to speak to me? I havn't found festival or espeak in shr-feeds |
| 20:14.17 | Sicelo | i guess this i correct image? http://build.shr-project.org/shr-core-staging/latest/images/nokia900/shr-image-nokia900.tar.gz |
| 20:14.59 | Sicelo | unfortunately i'm not a dev, but i at least can help with testing |
| 20:16.11 | Thamos | Sicelo: like i am on shr-gta02 ^^ |
| 20:17.54 | Sicelo | hopes there's a proper zImage inside that tar.gz. i have issues with u-boot, so i use flasher most of the time |
| 20:21.13 | Sicelo | eew, only uImages inside .. uboot after all |
| 20:21.23 | Thamos | bye for today. |
| 20:21.33 | Sicelo | cya |
| 20:21.53 | PaulFertser | Thamos: see you |
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| 20:55.11 | GNUtoo-m4a785t-m | PaulFertser, hmmm hi |
| 20:55.23 | GNUtoo-m4a785t-m | I'm sorry I'm behind with my mail |
| 20:56.09 | GNUtoo-m4a785t-m | PaulFertser, did someone merge your patches? |
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| 21:31.37 | GNUtoo-m4a785t-m | PaulFertser, btw does the gta02 still work well? |
| 21:31.45 | GNUtoo-m4a785t-m | what do you use on it? |
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| 22:41.12 | GNUtoo-m4a785t-m | JaMa, hi |
| 22:41.55 | JaMa | hi |
| 22:42.33 | GNUtoo-m4a785t-m | JaMa, what should we do about touchscreen patches |
| 22:42.37 | GNUtoo-m4a785t-m | they're still not merged |
| 22:43.42 | GNUtoo-m4a785t-m | for gta04 |
| 22:43.55 | GNUtoo-m4a785t-m | 2) I think I'll also build for danny |
| 22:44.09 | GNUtoo-m4a785t-m | but I really want fso master |
| 22:44.27 | GNUtoo-m4a785t-m | it's to get firefox working |
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