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| 06:27.17 | GNUtoo | hi mrmoku |
| 06:27.42 | GNUtoo | I think we should talk about ACI future |
| 06:31.29 | mrmoku | GNUtoo: ok, when? |
| 06:31.38 | mrmoku | and with whom? |
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| 06:32.19 | GNUtoo | when, not sure that now is the best moment since it could disconnect(I'm in a train) |
| 06:32.31 | mrmoku | and I have to go to a client soon |
| 06:32.45 | GNUtoo | I just wanted to know what are the plans with ACI, and why it was abandoned |
| 06:32.53 | GNUtoo | and what it is exactly |
| 06:33.04 | mrmoku | ok |
| 06:33.11 | GNUtoo | (do we really need it) |
| 06:34.22 | GNUtoo | maybe you could write a mail for a "call for someone else to continue the work" ? |
| 06:34.22 | GNUtoo | not sure |
| 06:34.23 | mrmoku | there is two parts within the ACI concept |
| 06:35.00 | mrmoku | the first one is the hook part that get's executed when something is requesting an alsa device |
| 06:35.15 | GNUtoo | ok |
| 06:35.16 | mrmoku | which ends in requesting an audio session from fsoaudiod |
| 06:35.24 | GNUtoo | ok nice |
| 06:35.29 | mrmoku | the second part is the actual handling of mixer controls |
| 06:35.33 | GNUtoo | ok |
| 06:35.46 | mrmoku | the difference in ACI is that it does not set _all_ controls of the whole card |
| 06:35.57 | mrmoku | just the ones need for the specific requested audio path |
| 06:35.59 | GNUtoo | ok |
| 06:36.08 | mrmoku | (which makes a lot of sense I think) |
| 06:36.35 | mrmoku | different audio paths can have different priorities and can conflict |
| 06:36.37 | GNUtoo | ok |
| 06:36.57 | mrmoku | If a requested audio path conflicts and has a lower priority than the current one it get's denied |
| 06:37.41 | mrmoku | (which then causes the hook to return an error for the requesting app or just routes the sound to the bin ... whatever we prefer) |
| 06:38.08 | mrmoku | my problem right now is multiple sound cards and how to handle that |
| 06:39.03 | mrmoku | if somebody else wants to pick up and do it I'm more than happy |
| 06:39.15 | mrmoku | I have no alsa knowledge and I'm slow in vala... |
| 06:39.23 | mrmoku | but I don't see who could that be |
| 06:39.28 | mrmoku | if not morphis |
| 06:39.39 | mrmoku | but he's busy doing lot's of other stuff |
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| 06:43.01 | wbk | hi all! |
| 06:43.35 | wbk | yesterday I got bitbake running in 32-bit chroot |
| 06:44.16 | wbk | but I could not build anything since I seem to stay root, even after su (-) bitbake |
| 06:45.01 | wbk | I can change the sanity checker, but I expect to be able to su to bitbake as well |
| 06:45.07 | wbk | any idea? |
| 06:45.34 | HeinervdmOff | is there an error when you do su bitbake? |
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| 06:49.15 | wbk | Heinervdm0ff : no, no error |
| 06:49.41 | wbk | I also seem to change context, but not user |
| 06:49.59 | wbk | OE om-gta02@shr /OE/shr-unstable # su - bitbake |
| 06:49.59 | wbk | OE @ ~ # whoami |
| 06:49.59 | wbk | root |
| 06:52.18 | HeinervdmOff | i never used the shr-chroot, but it should work... |
| 06:52.34 | HeinervdmOff | can you have a look at the /etc/passwd in the chroot? |
| 06:52.50 | HeinervdmOff | and look what shell is there for the bitbake user? |
| 06:53.11 | wbk | bitbake:x:0:0::/OE:/bin/bash |
| 06:53.46 | HeinervdmOff | that's ok |
| 06:54.01 | HeinervdmOff | then su should work, no idea what's going wrong |
| 06:55.29 | HeinervdmOff | wbk: you should wait for JaMa|Off to wake up, he can help you for sure |
| 06:56.20 | mrmoku | well... |
| 06:56.21 | mrmoku | nothing |
| 06:56.29 | mrmoku | wbk: you setup the chroot as root, right? |
| 06:56.41 | mrmoku | that's wrong |
| 06:57.12 | mrmoku | the bitbake user inside the chroot get's assigned the same uid as the user doing the setup |
| 06:57.21 | mrmoku | which should be your normal user |
| 06:57.29 | mrmoku | in your case bitbake == root |
| 06:58.16 | HeinervdmOff | right, bitbake has userid 0 |
| 07:01.12 | wbk | heinervdmOff hmmm... yeah :-) |
| 07:01.19 | wbk | thanks! |
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| 07:02.44 | GNUtoo | mrmoku, sorry I was disconnected, I'll go bye |
| 07:13.29 | mrmoku | gotta go too |
| 07:13.30 | mrmoku | bbl |
| 07:31.54 | JaMa|Off | nope :) |
| 07:32.05 | JaMa|Off | if he returns then he has to call make update-shr-chroot |
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| 07:32.31 | JaMa|Off | which in the end replaces uid/gid in passwd with current user ids |
| 07:32.44 | JaMa|Off | and he did git checkout manually yesterday, so he missed this sed call |
| 07:32.48 | JaMa|Off | off to work |
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| 12:16.29 | GarthPS | JaMa|Off: hi. about bblayers.conf update I propose this kind of things http://pastebin.com/rPpZCLDi. the first one (commented) work but are called everytimes and the secodne will not if you don't have both shr-core and aurora. or we make new specific update target |
| 12:16.37 | GarthPS | tell me what you prefere* |
| 12:19.25 | GarthPS | anyway , I have a new patch correcting aurora/auto.conf ready to be send as morphis send me a mail this morning telling me "Ok, as long as I have commit access to these branches I am fine with this. |
| 12:19.26 | GarthPS | " |
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| 12:57.21 | JaMa|Off | GarthPS: looks good, but same problem is with all conf/* files |
| 12:59.40 | GarthPS | JaMa|Off: right... |
| 13:00.16 | GarthPS | JaMa|Off: ok so I send you my patch for aurora for now and we will see for the rest later |
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| 13:08.56 | JaMa|Off | GarthPS: one more thing to that patch, could you please add if [ -d shr-core/openembedded-core && ! -d openembedded-core ] ; then mv shr-core/openembedded-core openembedded-core; ln -s ../openembedded-core shr-core/openembedded-core; fi and the same for meta-oe, meta-sp? |
| 13:13.50 | GarthPS | JaMa|Off: I don't kn ow if I will manage to merge them... Plus there is a typo in your copmmande no? ln-s openembedded-core <=without ../ |
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| 13:16.09 | JaMa|Off | GarthPS: no it's not typo |
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| 13:17.29 | GarthPS | JaMa|Off: well it is call from OE so openembedded-core is just . (here) |
| 13:21.49 | JaMa|Off | yes but the link will be in shr-core and from there it's ../oe-core |
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| 13:22.18 | GarthPS | JaMa|Off: hmm but there is a missing "cd shr-core" then |
| 13:23.02 | GarthPS | no ? |
| 13:23.03 | JaMa|Off | no |
| 13:23.22 | JaMa|Off | ln -s ../foo/blah /foo2/blah2/etc |
| 13:23.40 | GarthPS | JaMa|Off: :) I am missing expertise of ls, will check this right now. |
| 13:23.40 | JaMa|Off | will create link pointing to ../foo/blah |
| 13:24.03 | JaMa|Off | and nobody cares if ../foo/blah exists and where it's wrt pwd |
| 13:24.08 | JaMa|Off | cwd |
| 13:25.39 | GarthPS | JaMa|Off: right thx! |
| 13:25.47 | JaMa|Off | yw |
| 13:26.31 | GarthPS | g2g. will see for merging later |
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| 14:21.55 | mrmoku | JaMa|Off: I just found out why gprs0 does not work anymore on n900 |
| 14:22.11 | mrmoku | JaMa|Off: fsonetworkd does not find the ifconfig binary in path due to broken shell config |
| 14:22.18 | JaMa|Off | ah :/ |
| 14:22.38 | mrmoku | if I start it after su - and before activating the context all is fine |
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| 14:23.02 | mrmoku | if it get's dbus-activated by fsogsmd path seems to be wrong and the ifconfig fails |
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| 14:24.25 | JaMa|Off | I see |
| 14:24.55 | JaMa|Off | moves PATH issues even higher in todo |
| 14:25.05 | mrmoku | yup :P |
| 14:25.16 | JaMa|Off | btw oe-core has mechanism to run xserver as normal user |
| 14:25.27 | mrmoku | oh, nice |
| 14:26.04 | JaMa|Off | I thing we should resove this now when shr-core is not intended for end-users and we can break it |
| 14:26.14 | JaMa|Off | even more then it's now :) |
| 14:26.23 | mrmoku | hehe, ok |
| 14:26.27 | mrmoku | TAsn: ping ;) |
| 14:26.51 | JaMa|Off | mrmoku: have you seen ecdsa keys for sshd? |
| 14:27.02 | mrmoku | ecdsa keys? |
| 14:27.02 | JaMa|Off | mrmoku: for me openssh fails to start without them |
| 14:27.09 | mrmoku | hmm |
| 14:27.36 | mrmoku | my laptop seems to have an ecdsa host key |
| 14:28.06 | JaMa|Off | and for some reason only after first boot my gta is responding to ping |
| 14:28.24 | JaMa|Off | next boot It doesn't set ip or something.. |
| 14:28.53 | JaMa|Off | so on gta I'm a bit stuck with this as it behaves strange |
| 14:29.11 | JaMa|Off | like init dying because it doesn't even launch xserver |
| 14:45.24 | JaMa|Off | do we have some nice motd ascii art? as I'm changing /etc/profile in meta-shr so I can alter motd too |
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| 14:50.28 | mrmoku | JaMa|Off: not that I would know one |
| 14:57.27 | JaMa|Off | ok.. I'll use some figlet output :) |
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| 15:00.44 | JaMa|Off | mrmoku: trying to use if [ "$EUID" = "0" ] || [ "$USER" = "root" ] ; then to detect root (as gentoo does) instead of $HOME==/home/root |
| 15:00.53 | JaMa|Off | http://paste.pocoo.org/show/475882/ |
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| 15:18.45 | mrmoku | JaMa|Off: :D |
| 15:19.00 | mrmoku | JaMa|Off: another thing we need for gprs |
| 15:19.07 | mrmoku | pn-pep must be autoloaded |
| 15:19.20 | mrmoku | just in case you have something to fiddle in machine conf anyway :-) |
| 15:21.59 | mrmoku | (and installed) |
| 15:23.07 | JaMa|Off | :) |
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| 15:23.34 | mrmoku | :) thx |
| 15:28.36 | JaMa|Off | but have to rebuild&reinstall task-base manually |
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| 15:42.06 | losinggeneration | with SHR testing I'm unable to receive SMS messages. /var/log/fsogsmd.log has no activity when an SMS /should/ be received. It works with SHR obsolete (FSO 1.0), and QtMoko, so I think it's an issue with FSO 2.0 |
| 15:42.27 | losinggeneration | this is on an Openmoko Neo Freerunner |
| 15:43.54 | JaMa|Off | losinggeneration: do you have free slots for sms on SIM? |
| 15:44.00 | losinggeneration | yes |
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| 16:50.41 | GNUtoo | mrmoku, should I continue ACI when the device status would be better in oe-core? |
| 16:50.49 | GNUtoo | hi btw |
| 16:50.54 | GNUtoo | I'll also import some games.... |
| 16:51.24 | GNUtoo | bb at home |
| 16:51.24 | GNUtoo | train is arriving |
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| 17:56.50 | mrmoku | hi GNUtoo |
| 17:56.59 | GNUtoo | hi |
| 17:57.01 | mrmoku | good news :-) |
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| 17:57.12 | mrmoku | I found out why gprs does not work |
| 17:57.18 | GNUtoo | ok nice |
| 17:57.23 | GNUtoo | what was the reason? |
| 17:57.30 | mrmoku | it's as simple as fsonetworkd not finding the ifconfig binary :-P |
| 17:57.49 | mrmoku | JaMa|Off already fixed it (probably - did not test yet) |
| 17:58.11 | GNUtoo | ah ok |
| 17:59.47 | JaMa|Off | didn't test it either |
| 18:00.19 | mrmoku | that fixes the path for the terminal too of course :) |
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| 18:06.46 | GNUtoo | dos1, thanks a lot for the keyboard fix, it'snow nearly usable(some keys are still white on white, but not the letters anymore....nice) |
| 18:12.07 | GNUtoo | JaMa|Off, hi |
| 18:12.15 | GNUtoo | the gta02 modules are installed fine.... |
| 18:12.23 | GNUtoo | but....they are not loaded |
| 18:12.25 | GNUtoo | strange |
| 18:12.43 | GNUtoo | I did a cleansstate of the task and the kenrel tough |
| 18:13.42 | GNUtoo | normally the module_autoload is in kernel.bbclass right? |
| 18:15.27 | GNUtoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:15.48 | GNUtoo | why cleaning the kernel doesn't work? |
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| 18:32.51 | TAsn | mrmoku, pong. |
| 18:34.21 | CIA-5 | SHR: 03morphis 07meta-smartphone * rc43eb40006a2 10/meta-aurora/recipes-graphics/tslib/ (tslib/ts.conf tslib/tslib.sh tslib_git.bb): meta-aurora: drop git version of tslib; it's now in meta-openembedded |
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| 18:40.25 | morphis | heyho |
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| 18:40.38 | morphis | heyho |
| 18:40.40 | morphis | GNUtoo: ping |
| 18:40.54 | GNUtoo | pong |
| 18:41.32 | morphis | GNUtoo: see private |
| 18:41.42 | GNUtoo | ok |
| 18:43.03 | morphis | btw. in shr-core everything is build with DISTRO_TYPE = "release" |
| 18:43.15 | morphis | is it right that we can't login via ssh then without a password? |
| 18:43.23 | GNUtoo | I guess that disable quite some stuff |
| 18:43.24 | morphis | or is there a default one? |
| 18:43.30 | GNUtoo | no it's not normal |
| 18:43.36 | GNUtoo | it's because of release |
| 18:43.44 | morphis | or should I override it in my conf/local.conf? |
| 18:43.51 | GNUtoo | but I can login on om-gta02 trough ssh |
| 18:43.57 | GNUtoo | override in distro |
| 18:44.21 | morphis | without password and with shr-core image? |
| 18:45.54 | GNUtoo | <journalist mode> morphis morphis, any comment on the nexus S please</journalist mode> |
| 18:45.54 | GNUtoo | no I set a password |
| 18:45.54 | GNUtoo | right |
| 18:45.54 | GNUtoo | I must test |
| 18:46.01 | mrmoku | TAsn: JaMa|Off told me that oe-core supports rootless X server :) |
| 18:46.21 | mrmoku | remembers you wanted to give it a try some weekend ago ;) |
| 18:46.47 | morphis | mrmoku: thats something really nice |
| 18:47.17 | TAsn | I think you are talking about something else |
| 18:47.42 | TAsn | rootless X means: running an X inside an X without an X root |
| 18:47.42 | mrmoku | nah, you wanted to try our stack as normal user, no? |
| 18:47.53 | TAsn | i.e the applications just run "natively" |
| 18:48.08 | GNUtoo | mrmoku, look at shr page about running shr as user |
| 18:48.09 | GNUtoo | and update it |
| 18:48.09 | TAsn | without a different X root |
| 18:48.32 | mrmoku | TAsn: ok, rootless is not the correct term then |
| 18:48.32 | mrmoku | 16:24 < JaMa|Off> btw oe-core has mechanism to run xserver as normal user |
| 18:48.35 | TAsn | mrmoku, I wanted to run shr as a regular user. :) |
| 18:48.45 | TAsn | that's weird |
| 18:48.53 | TAsn | X needs access to devices and etc |
| 18:49.07 | mrmoku | no idea about the details... |
| 18:49.15 | TAsn | but that's not our problem, our problem is the lack of inherit support for users and etc. |
| 18:49.31 | GNUtoo | TAsn, look at the wiki page about that |
| 18:49.31 | GNUtoo | and complete it |
| 18:49.31 | TAsn | and my immense lack of time |
| 18:49.44 | GNUtoo | http://www.shr-project.org/trac/wiki/run%20SHR%20as%20user |
| 18:49.56 | TAsn | GNUtoo, it's more about ripping the permission hogging parts of libphone-ui |
| 18:50.20 | GNUtoo | phoneuid works fine in non-root it seems |
| 18:50.30 | TAsn | cool |
| 18:50.33 | TAsn | :)) |
| 18:50.45 | TAsn | so just fix dbus permissions |
| 18:51.05 | GNUtoo | and some apps |
| 18:51.09 | TAsn | yeah |
| 18:51.18 | TAsn | but apps is a never ending story |
| 18:51.18 | GNUtoo | like for instance the wifi app: iliwi |
| 18:51.22 | TAsn | we let everyone assume |
| 18:51.30 | GNUtoo | no, only some are to be fixed |
| 18:51.33 | TAsn | they can run things as root |
| 18:51.40 | GNUtoo | most of them work fine |
| 18:51.44 | TAsn | GNUtoo, really? many used to access sys interfaces directly |
| 18:51.49 | TAsn | and assumed home path |
| 18:51.54 | GNUtoo | ah? |
| 18:51.55 | TAsn | and other ugly stuff |
| 18:51.56 | GNUtoo | such as? |
| 18:51.58 | TAsn | that's what I remember |
| 18:51.59 | TAsn | dunno. |
| 18:52.01 | morphis | I am off |
| 18:52.01 | GNUtoo | ok |
| 18:52.01 | morphis | gn8 |
| 18:52.12 | TAsn | GNUtoo, as for iliwi |
| 18:52.23 | TAsn | use connman |
| 18:52.25 | TAsn | :Y |
| 18:54.54 | GNUtoo | connman....hmmmm |
| 18:54.54 | GNUtoo | do we have a good connman GUI? |
| 18:54.54 | GNUtoo | I guess not |
| 18:54.54 | GNUtoo | the old connman GUI wasn't that usable |
| 18:54.54 | GNUtoo | iliwi was way better |
| 18:54.55 | GNUtoo | so you'd have to rewrite something |
| 18:54.57 | GNUtoo | are you up to that? |
| 18:55.04 | GNUtoo | Y means yes? |
| 18:55.11 | mrmoku | GNUtoo: there is the gadget |
| 18:55.14 | GNUtoo | ok |
| 18:55.15 | mrmoku | which is working |
| 18:55.17 | mrmoku | now |
| 18:55.42 | GNUtoo | because I fear that TAsn wants a non-root system but doesn't want to invest time to make it happend |
| 18:57.42 | TAsn | yeah the gadget |
| 18:57.49 | TAsn | GNUtoo, trashing me? :P |
| 18:58.07 | TAsn | Yeah, I'm a lazy bastard, I have a barely working GTA02 |
| 18:58.10 | TAsn | which is super slow |
| 18:58.23 | TAsn | and annoying to work on, |
| 18:58.26 | TAsn | and I don't have time |
| 18:58.30 | TAsn | so I'm trying to minimize |
| 18:58.34 | TAsn | my efforts |
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| 19:32.48 | GNUtoo | JaMa|Off, hi |
| 19:33.04 | GNUtoo | we need to sed s/_/-/ in module_autoload |
| 19:33.13 | GNUtoo | in all machines config |
| 19:33.17 | GNUtoo | for instance: |
| 19:33.23 | GNUtoo | -module_autoload_leds_gpio = "leds-gpio" |
| 19:33.27 | GNUtoo | +module_autoload_leds-gpio = "leds-gpio" |
| 19:34.51 | GNUtoo | TAsn, we are not a lot of developers and we want something that work |
| 19:34.57 | GNUtoo | we cannot invest time in all works |
| 19:35.02 | GNUtoo | we have to choose |
| 19:35.16 | GNUtoo | as-user is nice |
| 19:35.18 | GNUtoo | but we do not have the manpower for that |
| 19:35.20 | GNUtoo | yet |
| 19:36.48 | TAsn | yep |
| 19:37.03 | TAsn | but running as root |
| 19:37.11 | TAsn | is like a badge of shame in the linux world :P |
| 19:37.52 | GNUtoo | yes but complaining won't change the fact that we don't have the manpower.... |
| 19:38.00 | GNUtoo | only fixing it will change it |
| 19:38.23 | TAsn | I know |
| 19:38.29 | TAsn | I never complained |
| 19:38.33 | TAsn | I didn't even raise the topic |
| 19:38.37 | TAsn | all there was to it was |
| 19:38.52 | TAsn | me asking mrmoku if anyone did anything about it |
| 19:38.55 | TAsn | cause I wanna hack on it |
| 19:39.07 | TAsn | and I don't wont to redo something that someone already did |
| 19:39.25 | GNUtoo | basically we could fix it |
| 19:39.25 | GNUtoo | but we have more important things to do |
| 19:39.33 | GNUtoo | I mean you cannot even do a phone call in shr-core right now with om-gta02 |
| 19:40.10 | GNUtoo | ah ok nice!!!! |
| 19:40.19 | TAsn | yeah. :) |
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| 19:49.47 | GNUtoo | I'll go bye |
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| 20:51.07 | nschle85 | hello, does anybody know which component connects to GPS module on GTA02 ? |
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| 20:57.57 | pespin | ERROR: Unable to parse /OE/shr-core/meta-smartphone/meta-zaurus/conf/layer.conf: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/OE/shr-core/meta-smartphone/meta-zaurus/conf/layer.conf' |
| 21:01.22 | nschle85 | pespin: look at shr-core/bblayers.conf please is the a entry for zaurus ? |
| 21:01.34 | nschle85 | is there an |
| 21:02.28 | pespin | nschle85, yeah, I already removed it, it's working now. |
| 21:02.43 | nschle85 | ok |
| 21:03.24 | pespin | but I thought that make update-shr-core in shr-makefile would update that file |
| 21:07.53 | mrmoku | nschle85: there are two components... old ogpsd and fsogpsd which would in theory connect to the GPS |
| 21:09.51 | nschle85 | mrmoku: but ogps talks to the GPS hardware and sends the data via dbus (gypsy) to fsogpsd which converts dbus (gypsy) to gpsd format true ? |
| 21:10.07 | mrmoku | no |
| 21:10.13 | mrmoku | actually there is no fsogpsd :P |
| 21:10.17 | mrmoku | it's fsotdld |
| 21:10.31 | mrmoku | and it connects to the hardware too... at least it did |
| 21:11.17 | nschle85 | so what is fsogpsd and fsotdld for ? |
| 21:12.19 | mrmoku | ogpsd (which is a subsystem of the python frameworkd) is for gps only |
| 21:12.36 | mrmoku | fsotdld does other things too... like setting the time |
| 21:13.07 | mrmoku | but is not yet a complete replacement for ogpsd (if that did not change without me noticing) |
| 21:13.59 | nschle85 | how should a GPS system for N900 look like ? |
| 21:14.56 | mrmoku | nschle85: PaulFertser was investigating gpsd to do a plugin IIRC |
| 21:15.12 | mrmoku | I'm in no means the right one to talk here :) |
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| 22:39.51 | wbk | For bitbaking SHR-lite in 32-bit chroot as provided by SHR, how much disk space should I reserve? I keep running out of disk space on my (smallish) SSD :-( |
| 22:41.29 | angelox|laptop | I think 4<~>6GB ,i usually erase download files to give more space |
| 22:42.11 | wbk | angelox : ah, that explains ... :-P |
| 22:43.18 | angelox|laptop | also check your RM WORK DIR flag (iirc that's the correct name) |
| 22:43.20 | wbk | angelox: apart from download and tmp, which files can I (auto?) remove to start with as much free space as possible? |
| 22:44.07 | wbk | where should I find that flag ? |
| 22:44.33 | angelox|laptop | local.conf |
| 22:44.42 | angelox|laptop | sorry,else download and tmp,i have no ideas :) |
| 22:45.14 | angelox|laptop | it is: INHERIT += "rm_work" flag |
| 22:45.21 | angelox|laptop | if you have it,then everything is ok |
| 22:45.33 | wbk | it's a start.. and perhaps I can redirect some free space from another partiton on the same disk |
| 22:46.39 | angelox|laptop | that's what i did when i had only a 76GB~ HD :) |
| 22:48.26 | wbk | hahaha, mine is less than a third after formatting, go figure ;-) |
| 22:49.20 | wbk | Within a few months I hope to work on a newer, faster, bigger system though, but for now it's shuffling files |
| 22:50.42 | angelox|laptop | If i were you i would leave movies,clips and music for the phone,downloads for a pendrive,and leave every space to building :) |
| 22:52.59 | wbk | that would save me about 30 meg... but akonadi and nepomuk still share some 1.5GB between them, and kontact also has about that for offline imap |
| 22:53.57 | wbk | do you have experience getting akonadi or nepomuk to use less space, by coincidence? |
| 22:54.22 | angelox|laptop | nope,i don't use them :) |
| 22:54.43 | angelox|laptop | to be sincere,i don't know what does them do :) |
| 22:55.26 | angelox|laptop | Do you use KDE or Gnome? |
| 22:55.40 | wbk | hehe, they match pieces of data from one side of my home dir with pieces of data on the other side, so that I do not have to remember by myself ... KDE |
| 22:57.20 | angelox|laptop | ah ok thx :) i think you should switch to another ambient (xfce or lxde) |
| 22:58.10 | angelox|laptop | then it would save a lot of space i think |
| 23:00.57 | wbk | it would indeed |
| 23:04.31 | angelox|laptop | now me,i had a big problem |
| 23:04.40 | angelox|laptop | i couldn't compile anything in my laptop |
| 23:04.55 | angelox|laptop | it would just turn off by it's temperature :( |
| 23:05.55 | angelox|laptop | so i opened it and cleaned..this is the first time i try to compile,let's check if it doesn't turns off :) |
| 23:29.13 | wbk | angelox: I didn't see you dropping out of the channel, so it seems to be clean enough now ;-) |
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| 23:30.36 | angelox|laptop | wbk: yes,for now yes,but it started to compile GCC,so,good luck for me (gcc makes my laptop get hot too easily) |
| 23:32.12 | wbk | angelox: as far as my space problem concerned: the partition is 10GB, df gives 98% used, while du gives only 6GB used. Besides that, /run/shm is mounted multiple times and with that possibly proc/kcore. Perhaps that makes up for the difference, but to be sure I'm going to fsck |
| 23:32.48 | wbk | thanks so far, I'm off to single user mode (that is, the laptop..) for a while |
| 23:34.00 | angelox|laptop | ok,np :) |
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