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05:36.57DocScrutinizer~moo
05:36.58aptACTION mooooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I am cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass
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06:09.03PaulFertserDocScrutinizer-8: hey :) what do you think about comparision between n810 and n900 keyboards? And what about the form-factor, would you rather prefer a device as big as n810 or n900?
06:09.30DocScrutinizerclearly N810
06:10.31gena2xDocScrutinizer: wiki up, thanks!
06:10.32DocScrutinizerthough I'm really used to N900 now. The first ~6 months were a PITA with the N900 kbd, and a feeling like trousers 3 sizes too small with screen
06:10.40gena2xjust checked
06:12.45DocScrutinizerthe N900 has a bit nicer dome switches than N810 (pressure, feedback) but that's realy not related to formfactor. I.E I guess I could swap the N810 domes with N900 spare parts
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06:27.51PaulFertserDocScrutinizer: many people say that n810 is too damn big to be used as a phone...
06:28.08DocScrutinizerI don't care
06:29.04DocScrutinizerwhat's the problem? too long distance to microphone when holding the (nonexistent) earpiece to your ear? :-D
06:30.20DocScrutinizerI'd understand somebody claiming it's too big to *carry* it, but then what's the use of such device when you can't carry it anyway
06:30.30PaulFertserDocScrutinizer: i guess not, as my friend uses n810 as a voip handset just fine.
06:30.41DocScrutinizerme too
06:31.00DocScrutinizerand the missing earpiece is a real annoyance
06:31.06PaulFertserDocScrutinizer: my sister says that even n900 is too big and not really useful as she carries a netbook almost all the time with her anyway.
06:31.24DocScrutinizerweird
06:32.12PaulFertserDocScrutinizer: well, she's got internet access at home, at work, PC's are everywhere around, and on the underground ride it makes sense to take a break and listen to some music or read some book.
06:32.14DocScrutinizershe should rethink - then she must come to the conclusion it's actually too small to fully replace her netbook
06:32.55PaulFertserDocScrutinizer: yes, exactly. Too small to replace the netbook, too unnecessarily big for a cellphone. Also not comfortable to use with one hand.
06:33.12DocScrutinizeryes
06:33.31DocScrutinizerstill way more comfortable to use with one hand than FR
06:35.02PaulFertserHehe, i've recently fall down on people while trying to type "pkill -f -9 fsogsmd; pkill -f -9 fsousaged" while being on a train :)
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06:57.29DocScrutinizerPaulFertser: look at the right hand lower mount hole!! http://www.engadget.com/photos/nokias-qwerty-slidin-n9-shows-up-in-the-wilds-of-china/#3277333
07:03.57PaulFertserDocScrutinizer: sorry, where exactly?
07:04.49DocScrutinizerlower right screw hole, you see a helix :-D
07:05.23DocScrutinizerupper hole has same, though hard to spot
07:05.54DocScrutinizernow that's smart
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08:33.00mrmokuJaMa: another problem with the latest n900 image... looks like it does not have all the needed modules included
08:33.11mrmokuthere are only very few and touchscreen does not work
08:33.21mrmokuafter installing kernel-modules all is fine
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08:38.00JaMamrmoku: http://git.shr-project.org/git/?p=n900-oe.git;a=commit;h=f4f38098f7110f8a81353912c005705adbf9a5e3 this one wasn't merged to OE
08:38.30JaMamrmoku: if those required modules have same name in .28 and .35 then it would be good to add them to machine.conf
08:40.03mrmokuJaMa: ok
08:40.20mrmokuhave to go to school now... see if my son is behaving nicely ;)
08:40.22mrmokubbl
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08:42.25morphisheyho
08:42.41JaMahi
08:43.22JaMamorphis: can you bump msmcomm SRCREV in oe to something compatible with current fsogsmd rev?
08:43.44morphisI can
08:43.58morphisit does not compile?
08:44.23JaMahttp://git.shr-project.org/git/?p=n900-oe.git;a=commit;h=f4f38098f7110f8a81353912c005705adbf9a5e3
08:44.29JaMaups sorry
08:44.31JaMahttp://tinderbox.openembedded.org/public/logs/task/10791283.txt
08:46.00morphisdo you compiling for palmpre machine?
08:46.03JaMaand latest msmcommd failed to build too http://tinderbox.openembedded.org/public/logs/task/10800150.txt
08:46.16JaMamorphis: on shr buildhost yes
08:46.18morphisjepp I know
08:46.27morphisok
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08:46.54JaMamorphis: cornucopia SRCREV was bumped without build test for pre.. and since then pre images were failing
08:47.13CIA-74freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * rb72ae4ed3d71 10/libmsmcomm/src/ (Makefile.am frame.c msmcomm.h): libmsmcomm: remove public lowlevel frame handling functionality
08:47.17morphismsmcommd build should be fixed with my next commit on the msmcomm repository
08:47.23morphisgreat ...
08:47.32JaMais curious if someone is actually using "official" pre images from shr buildhost, or if it's wasting cpu cycles there
08:47.43morphisthat  should at least fix msmcommd build
08:48.06morphisJaMa: no, as I know currently nobody is using the "official" shr images for the palm pre
08:48.25morphisso we can stop building them until it gets back in a reasonable state
08:49.12JaMaok trying to build latest rev and then I'll bump it and stop building those :)
08:49.55morphisbut latest rev should not be compatible with latest from fsogsmd
08:50.03morphisso fsogsmd stills fails
08:50.10morphiss/stills/still/
08:50.16morphisI will fix this today
08:50.25morphisbut first I have to do some other things
08:50.27JaMaah :/
08:50.34JaMaok, thanks anyway
08:50.57morphisno problem
08:51.07morphiswill ping you when fsogsmd is usable again
08:51.11morphis(for the palm pre)
08:52.01JaMaok
08:56.46[Rui]JaMa: with yesterday's Linux, yeah, WS still there
08:57.13[Rui]moin
08:59.17JaMatoday I've checked diff -rq of sources before and after switch to one-patch (before adding gta01 support) and no patch is missing now
08:59.35JaMa[Rui]: can you confirm that you haven't got WSOD with previous 2.6.34 kernel?
09:00.01[Rui]JaMa: I hadn't updated for about two weeks, and was running 2.6.34.7 without WS
09:00.14[Rui]then a couple of days ago I updated, and now I get WS
09:00.15JaMa[Rui]: or even test it with some older 2.6.34.7 from http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/old/
09:00.26[Rui]yesterday, there was a Linux update, still WS
09:01.37[Rui]JaMa: I can try with an older 2.6.34.7 sure, you suspect WS may be caused by sth else?
09:01.46JaMayes that update was adding missing wsod fix which never was in shr 2.6.34
09:02.02JaMaonly in 2.6.32
09:02.22[Rui]ok
09:02.25JaMawell I've updated xf86-video-glamo with Xorg crash fix few days ago
09:02.39[Rui]hms...
09:02.41JaMaso it could be related but still strange
09:02.49[Rui]that would be a likely suspect as well
09:03.25[Rui]which one would you suggest, modules-2.6.34.7-oe9+gitr9+e4182f3551f1b8e8f8bd07a2d68e49a0ec4cd04a-r0-om-gta02.tgz ? (plus kernel)
09:03.27JaMa[Rui]: but that fix just dispatches cmd queue properly.. shouldn't cause wsod at all
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09:04.03JaMa[Rui]: yes please test this one
09:04.32JaMaalso there was small rather formal defconfig update http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?id=c3119c5f43a91c265a51db469c446c89d5d3cc54
09:06.22JaMa[Rui]: if it works then uImage-2.6.34-r4-oe10-om-gta02.bin and oe12
09:06.37[Rui]rebooting
09:10.06[Rui]blanked... so let's give it a few more minutes
09:12.30JaMamorphis: msmcomm* built fine with that rev and also fsogsmd compiled fine with it, should I push it to OE (to have something which builds) or should I wait for your ping?
09:12.56morphishm
09:12.59morphispush it
09:13.09morphisI will bump it later anyway
09:13.11JaMafsogsmd-1_0.5.0+gitr852+8fa36faa70f85c168124dfd020d87796cd155a53 it's not latest
09:13.31morphisbut thats the current version in OE?
09:13.36JaMayes
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09:20.07[Rui]JaMa: got a whitescreen with that Linux
09:20.37[Rui]so let's try oe10 and oe12
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09:29.42[Rui]I either didn't wait long enough, or have no WS with oe10
09:30.46JaMa[Rui]: if you got it with this then it will be in oe10 and 12 too (they are newer)
09:31.17JaMas/this/2.6.34.7-oe9+gitr9/
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09:35.07[Rui]JaMa: yeah, and it checks
09:36.22[Rui]gotta go to work. bye
09:36.23pespinhey, I'm using newupgrades from yesterday and I'm not having wsod here
09:36.39[Rui]pespin: it's not "of death" :) just WS
09:36.52[Rui]pespin: maybe you need to let it go blank for a longer time
09:37.11pespin[Rui], been using it since yesterday without any white screen
09:37.37pespintried waiting for abou 10 min without problems
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11:23.03gena2xdaaaaaamn, depmon in nand...
11:23.12gena2xs/depmon/depmod/
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12:02.47gena2xok, i can't reproduce it here
12:02.58gena2xdownloaded shr kernel
12:03.07gena2xand modules (oe13)
12:03.46JaMabut that's only with kms, does it work correctly with your rootfs?
12:03.47gena2xboot, (framebuffer-only), om screen power 0 for a while , resumed fine
12:04.09gena2xs/resumed/unblanked/
12:04.12JaMahere is same kernel with normal FB http://build.shr-project.org/tests/jama/kernel-nodrm/
12:04.30gena2xhey, kms version seem working
12:05.33gena2xi got here http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/
12:05.48gena2xso...
12:06.01gena2xone more test with refrigerator
12:06.05JaMaok, just surprised, because someone reported it didn't work with qtmoko rootfs IIRC
12:07.25gena2xit does not really work (qtmoko is not loading for some reason), but ssh and general framebuffer works
12:07.45gena2xi mean qtopia is not loading
12:07.52gena2x(qtmoko v28 btw)
12:08.25gena2xanyway - no surprise it is working, as it only need framebuffer
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12:10.10gena2xafter refrigerator it still working
12:10.14gena2xso... bad news
12:11.23gena2xmrmoku: is it easy to reproduce WS?
12:12.14gena2xbut i can't believe so many people have it and i can't reproduce
12:14.35gena2xmay be this somehow related to userspace?
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12:17.21gena2xok, i'll try to chroot to shrs rootfs and run X server
12:22.04CIA-74SHR: 03mail 07libphone-ui-shr * r3f1f05e5057e 10/src/view/message-new-view.c: message-new-view: fixed the new-line management in content, avoiding extra space usage
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12:26.58gena2xheh, starting Xserver in this way (chroot to shr) lead to nice example of total WSOD
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12:58.44mrmokugena2x: for me... very easy... very reliably
12:59.18mrmokugena2x: and I'm convinced that it _depend's on the device_ too
12:59.23mrmokunot just a software thing
12:59.57gena2xcan you try to disable X server, reboot and reproduce on base system?
13:00.44mrmokugena2x: not right now... got to take care of my little son
13:00.55mrmokuwill do as soon as possible
13:01.03gena2xok
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13:28.44mrmokugena2x: ps ax: http://shr.pastebin.com/VEn00tpJ
13:28.49mrmokugena2x: and I have a white screen
13:29.31gena2xhave you really reboot, may be better poweroff/poweron and disabled X on boot?
13:30.03mrmokuI set 3 as default level in inittab
13:30.26mrmokuno fso/phonefsod/phoneuid whatsoever is started
13:30.26gena2xso x driver should not be related...
13:30.36mrmokudid just reboot though
13:30.38mrmokuno poweroff
13:30.55mrmokuretries with pulling the battery before boot
13:34.34gena2xseem no ws? :)
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13:36.43mrmokugena2x: screen all white no ws?
13:37.12gena2xjust it took longer for testing...
13:37.29gena2xso, same after full power off?
13:37.46mrmokustill waiting... as without phonefsod there is no dimming
13:38.38mrmokuhmm... in my test before it was suspended... and after resume there was the white screen...
13:38.54mrmokumaybe I should test with just no x and fso running?
13:39.55gena2xyes, actually only x talk to glamo
13:40.20gena2xi think you can blank via ssh
13:40.28gena2xi am using omhacks tool
13:40.48mrmokuinstalls omhacks
13:41.16gena2xom screen power 0 & om screen power 1
13:41.34mrmokuok, screen is off now
13:41.39mrmokuwaits two minutes
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13:43.13gena2xDAAAAAMN!
13:43.49gena2xi forgot damn bug with sd card and kms kernels... grrrr... it killed my fs
13:44.23gena2xagain
13:44.53mrmokugena2x: turned screen back on.... and.... is WHITE :)
13:45.21JaMamrmoku: can you try with nondrm kernel?
13:45.25gena2xom screen power 0 and om screen power 1 brings it back online?
13:45.53mrmokugena2x: yeah, did that
13:45.57mrmokuahh
13:45.59mrmokumoment
13:46.04mrmokudmesg here btw. http://shr.pastebin.com/i0ubRGCe
13:46.06gena2x?
13:46.18mrmokugena2x: yup, brings it back online
13:46.38gena2xcan you try mine kernel?
13:46.49mrmokusure
13:46.53mrmokuwhere ?
13:47.02gena2xhttp://www.bsdmn.com/openmoko/gpsfix/
13:47.07gena2xfor example this one
13:47.15gena2xuImage-b6.bin
13:47.23gena2xmodules-b6.tar.gz
13:47.52gena2xboot just to command line of course
13:49.10gena2xi thought it were ThibG patch which fixed exactly WS like you have
13:49.28mrmokuit did back then (at least I thought too)
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13:50.44mrmokurebooting
13:50.51mrmoku(with power off in between :P)
13:51.03[Rui]Heinervdm: hi, yeah that screenshot looks weird, where do you have th ecode?
13:51.13[Rui]any news about the WS?
13:51.58gena2xwe speaking about it
13:52.15gena2x[Rui]: so, you installed other kernel version, and no more WS?
13:52.45[Rui]gena2x: no, even with a kernel from the end of October (like I had before the upgrade) I get the WS
13:52.51[Rui]it's being caused by something else.
13:53.07[Rui]gena2x: this morning I tried older kernels with JaMa
13:53.22mrmokuheh
13:53.34mrmokuQi disliked your kernel and booted the other partition instead :P
13:54.07mrmokuohh
13:54.14mrmoku-rw-r--r--    1 root     root          1405 Nov 23 14:48 uImage-b6.bin
13:54.19mrmokukernel that small would be nice ;)
13:54.31JaMaclever Qi :)
13:54.51mrmokurefetches
13:54.54mrmokuJaMa: yup, indeed :P
13:55.01gena2xmrmoku: just remane it
13:55.01mrmokumore clever then me :(/
13:55.05gena2x*rename
13:55.15gena2xah,
13:55.18gena2xsize.
13:55.20gena2xok :)
13:55.26mrmoku-rw-r--r--    1 root     root       2437692 Nov 23 14:55 uImage-b6.bin
13:55.27mrmokubetter
13:55.43gena2xname is ok
13:55.48gena2xwill it find it?
13:55.52mrmokuyeah, I did the link
13:55.59gena2xdo not forget depmod
13:56.12mrmokuI did
13:56.48Heinervdm[Rui]: the code is at home, can 't show you now :(
13:57.23[Rui]Heinervdm: ok, yesterday you /quit'ted just a bit too soon :)
13:57.43mrmokuok, screen off... waiting 2min
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13:57.54Heinervdm[Rui]: :) will show you this evening
13:58.12[Rui]Heinervdm: bad Heinervdm, should use a repo always ;)
13:58.45gena2x[Rui]: hmmm.. thanks.
14:00.11gena2xsomething else and not X
14:01.17gena2xand also in debian
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14:01.33gena2xwith kernel from Mirv... hm.
14:01.51mrmokugena2x: yup, white screen too
14:01.59mrmokuroot@om-gta02 ~ # cat /proc/version
14:01.59mrmokuLinux version 2.6.34b6-v28 (gena@work) (gcc version 4.4.5 20100824 (prerelease) (Debian 4.4.4-11) ) #17 Thu Nov 4 23:08:37 MSK 2010
14:02.40mrmokuand power 0 & 1 recovers
14:02.57gena2xgoing to install shr
14:03.34mrmokugena2x: want me to try your rootfs too?
14:04.04gena2xyou may try qtmoko v28
14:04.20gena2xif your NAND is free for example
14:04.24gena2xit has v34 kernel
14:04.29mrmokuok
14:04.58gena2xhttp://sourceforge.net/projects/qtmoko/files/
14:05.06gena2xget uImage-v28.2.bin kernel
14:06.30gena2xJaMa: anyone is going to squash bloody sd card corruption on umount kms bug?
14:07.21gena2xJaMa: consider question as addition to the kms-fb talk :) or nobody else has it?
14:08.23gena2xreally recalled what were problem with kms
14:15.24JaMadidn't have fs corruption for long (with .34) but I got one lately.. maybe probability of broken fs after reboot is corresponds with drm cmdq flushing frequency
14:15.41JaMas/ is//
14:17.04gena2xmay be really my current problems with fs is not related with that bug. but it definetly were reason.
14:17.12gena2xs/is/are/
14:18.42JaMaif broken fs is really only with kms enabled then I would probably drop kms support from official shr kernels (as nobody seems using it anyways..)
14:18.59mrmokugena2x: ok, qtmoko booted... what now?
14:19.09gena2xapt-get install omhacks
14:19.31gena2xand om screen power like before
14:19.53mrmokuwhat ip does qtmoko have?
14:20.15gena2x192.168.0.220 i think, but never used it
14:20.22gena2xmay be 202
14:20.28mrmokuyeah, 202
14:20.45mrmokuhmm... does not let me in
14:20.55gena2xmy usual quest is qterminal and change it to 1.5
14:21.00gena2xroot?
14:21.09mrmokuyup
14:21.09gena2xempty password?
14:21.12mrmokuyup
14:21.20gena2xhmmm
14:21.21mrmokuI think so at least I did not give one
14:21.34gena2xgo terminal
14:21.39gena2xand do passwd...
14:21.45gena2xor
14:21.57gena2xhm, i can't recall if qtmoko has password
14:22.17mrmokuahh... found the terminal :P
14:23.15gena2xif ssh responds, only password or login name can be wrong
14:24.00gena2xor you connecting not to qtmoko
14:24.09gena2xmay be 202 is localhost
14:24.46gena2xi dunno, i have 192.168.0 as main network, so i have to reconfigure always to 192.168.1.
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14:25.35mrmoku`heh
14:25.40mrmoku`disconnect :(
14:26.07gena2xcheck ip with ifconfig in qtmoko terminal
14:26.16mrmoku`no, it was known-hosts on my laptop
14:26.18mrmoku`:P
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14:26.31mrmoku`running apt-get install omhacks
14:26.32gena2xah, rm line from ~/.ssh
14:26.39mrmoku`yeah, yeah
14:27.30mrmoku`ok, screen is off now... will go downstairs eat a piece of cake and admire the white when I come back :P
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14:29.54gena2xJaMaOff: i can say, that i never saw any sd corruption with non-kms version
14:31.33gena2xJaMaOff: and contrary, now i boot kms kernel and bah. apt-cache segfaulted.
14:32.14gena2x(after reboot with fb kernel)
14:32.28gena2xit's totally possible kms is not related in this case
14:32.35mrmoku`gena2x: yup, screen is white
14:33.02gena2xmrmoku`: so, thanks for testing.
14:33.14mrmoku`and power 0 & 1 recovers as expected
14:33.20mrmoku`gena2x: well... yw :)
14:33.41gena2xit's totally clean that it is not related to shr userspace
14:34.24gena2xand that it will be insane to debug for me :(
14:34.40mrmokuwithout a device that behaves like that... difficult
14:35.09gena2xi have one slight idea you can test
14:35.17gena2xno, impossible
14:35.38gena2xso, this means that just qtmoko has too few users
14:36.07gena2xno
14:45.49CIA-74SHR: 03mail 07libphone-ui-shr * rb38ede1896db 10/src/view/message-new-view.c: message-new-view: correctly show the msg count when reached the char limit
14:53.25mrmokugena2x: either that or only lucky users which have a 'good' device
14:54.23gena2xit is very possible that it is just software bug
14:54.54gena2xfor example some component is used in way out of specifications
14:55.24gena2xand on some devices such usage is working on other doesn't
14:56.01gena2xand as we really have no glamo and lcd specifications, it's not easy to check this
14:56.52mrmokuyeah, what I meant is that it shows on some hardware but not all
14:56.56mrmokusure it might be a software bug
14:57.13mrmokua kernel bug probably
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15:01.49gena2xmrmoku: btw, did you power-off before booting qtmoko?
15:03.56mrmokuyup
15:04.04mrmokuincluding a pull of the bat
15:04.19gena2xyou have qi btw?..
15:04.23mrmokuyup
15:04.56gena2xhm. this is different part in our bootchain :)
15:05.07gena2xbut it should work
15:05.45mrmokuhmm... I could install u-boot to see if it makes a difference... later though
15:05.51gena2xnono
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16:01.44Slyonhi all together!
16:01.51Slyoncan someone help me with this: http://tinderbox.openembedded.net/public/logs/task/10953634.txt
16:02.07Slyoni'm trying to build for palmpre but it fails at do_rootfs everytime
16:06.04JaMaOffSlyon: do you have any special packages added to image or is it as is from OE master?
16:06.30Slyonits OE master
16:06.41JaMaOffSlyon: I would start with lvm2 rebuild and whatever recipe provides device-mapper
16:06.57SlyonJaMaOff: okay will try
16:07.26CIA-74SHR: 03mail 07libphone-ui-shr * rc1775ff65914 10/src/view/ (contact-list-common.c message-new-view.c): contact-list-common: show the contact user image only if the file exists
16:14.28SlyonJaMaOff, another thing: vala-terminal doesn't start on my neo. It returns this error:
16:14.41Slyonvala-terminal: error while loading shared libraries: libncurses.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
16:14.54Slyonis this a known issue?
16:16.41SlyonJaMaOff, any my shr-lite-image do_rootfs fails again. i rebuilded (-c clean and -c build) lvm2 and device-mapper. but it gives the same error
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18:54.41Heinervdm[Rui]: here is the code: http://heinervdm.dyndns.info/shr-git/libphone-ui-shr/src/phoneui-calendar.c and here the .edc: http://heinervdm.dyndns.info/shr-git/libphone-ui-shr/data/calendar.edc i hope you can help me :)
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19:50.34Heinervdm[Rui]: hi
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19:51.30[Rui]Heinervdm: it's view/calender-month-view.c right?
19:51.56Heinervdm[Rui]: oh yes, i linked the wrong file
19:53.36[Rui]Heinervdm: urk, can't help you... I tried to do a similar thing and got to that same horrible result
19:53.49[Rui]Heinervdm: it has to do with sizing of the thing you'r swallowing
19:54.14[Rui]did you try to swallow a box with the month view inside it, instead?
19:54.39Heinervdm[Rui]: no, i haven't tried anything else
19:55.21[Rui]Heinervdm: but I eventually gave up on that... because of that all that's edje-ified in elmdentica is the main genlist view
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19:56.00[Rui]have to go home, hopefully will be able to check from here.
19:56.02[Rui]there
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20:02.22PaulFertserHey! Check this out, a real-life dead-lock: http://i.imgur.com/l8UoK.jpg
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20:17.17mrmokuPaulFertser: hehe, fun :P
20:17.24mrmoku(to watch from the window ;)
20:17.59PaulFertsermrmoku: if the drivers actually were sane and obeying the rules, they wouldn't get into such a state.
20:18.17mrmokuyeah, sure
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20:24.05JaMaOffSlyon|away: than check in what's pulling those to image and if they are also pulled in http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/shr-lite-eglibc-ipk--20101122-om-gta02-testlab/depends-nokernel-nolibc-noupdate-nomodules.dot
20:24.44JaMaOffPaulFertser: lol :)
20:29.35JaMaOffSlyon|away: morphis fixed that in OE master :)
20:30.55Slyon|awayJaMaOff, jepp, i know. i talked to him in #openmoko-de
20:31.02Slyon|awayJaMaOff, thanks anyways
20:42.05HeinervdmJaMaOff: is it correct that there are 3 libnss_...so.3 files not in eglibc-dev package?
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21:03.58Heinervdmnow it's too big... http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/fd99e8740fe6aac008b0e204184eb40e.png
21:04.13Heinervdmand the buttons are still missing
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22:53.01[Rui]ah, btw... I found a small problem with SHR and E17
22:53.16[Rui]where are the icon theme settings? :)
22:53.27[Rui]missing, I tells ya
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23:12.54GNUtoohi, it seem that my bluetooth keyboard is finally working on the n900 with some scripts and config modifications
23:13.12GNUtoohi mrmoku

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