| 00:08.35 | beewoolie-afk | jacques: BTW, one of the problems with this code is that it's not endian-safe. It isn't complex, fortunately. Only two routines really. But it needs some help. |
| 00:09.05 | jacques | beewoolie-afk, ah yeah, that does not surprise me actually :-\ |
| 00:09.49 | beewoolie-afk | Unfortunately, I haven't found a description of the JFFS2 format which would make this easier since I'd know if everything was kosher. |
| 00:11.14 | jacques | hmm, I thought I had found one someplace when I was adding the "create empty jffs2 partition" feature to slugimage |
| 00:12.19 | beewoolie-afk | I just want something that explains the meanings of all of the bits and fields in the structures. There's a little out there, but not much. |
| 00:12.35 | jacques | I assume you've already found this: http://sources.redhat.com/jffs2/ |
| 00:13.00 | beewoolie-afk | Just found it. thx |
| 00:14.12 | jacques | http://mhonarc.axis.se/jffs-dev/maillist.html |
| 00:14.22 | jacques | David Woodhouse still posts to that list |
| 00:15.20 | jacques | and he's dwmw2 on #handhelds.org |
| 00:17.19 | jacques | maybe some stuff here too: http://www.linux-mtd.infradead.org/index.html |
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| 02:57.53 | [g2] | dyoung-zzzz, around ? |
| 03:04.47 | *** join/#openjtag dyoung-web (www-data@netblock-66-159-209-60.dslextreme.com) |
| 03:05.07 | [g2] | dyoung-web, around ? |
| 03:05.24 | [g2] | Ok I've got a hw question for you |
| 03:05.29 | dyoung-web | Okay. |
| 03:05.52 | [g2] | Currently the RV042 and 082 had 32MB memory as in 2 8Mx16 chips |
| 03:06.25 | [g2] | tomorrow I'll drop them off at a re-work shop and they'll switch those chips to be 16Mx16 |
| 03:06.36 | dyoung-web | Okay. |
| 03:06.37 | [g2] | and add an extra set on the 082 |
| 03:06.43 | dyoung-web | Woo! |
| 03:06.58 | [g2] | I'm guessing that things should still boot with the old firmware |
| 03:07.07 | dyoung-web | Yes, they should. |
| 03:07.15 | dyoung-web | the upper 32M should be ignored. |
| 03:07.18 | [g2] | as the avila which had the same situtaion booted when it was only configured for 32M |
| 03:07.23 | [g2] | but had 64M |
| 03:07.41 | [g2] | until I enabled that extra 32M :) |
| 03:08.16 | [g2] | Okay.... we'll see in a couple days |
| 03:08.42 | [g2] | with some luck I'll have two units with one with 64MB one with 128MB and both the serial and JTAG |
| 03:08.52 | [g2] | maybe even double flash |
| 03:08.52 | dyoung-web | neato. |
| 03:09.22 | dyoung-web | I wish I had as many toys as [g2] |
| 03:10.04 | dyoung-web | me too. |
| 03:10.14 | [g2] | what are you gonna build ? |
| 03:10.19 | dyoung-web | more like a "stuff integration" thing I guess. |
| 03:10.25 | dyoung-web | did you see that guys site? |
| 03:10.34 | dyoung-web | what was it.. |
| 03:10.47 | dyoung-web | anyways, he bought 300 nslu2's to use for that. |
| 03:10.57 | [g2] | NO I missed that one |
| 03:11.19 | dyoung-web | lemme poke around; its really neat stuff. |
| 03:11.24 | jacques | huh? |
| 03:11.27 | jacques | i wanna see that too |
| 03:11.28 | [g2] | it wasn't the German guy was it ? |
| 03:11.36 | [g2] | for the libraries ? |
| 03:11.48 | dyoung-web | no, this dudes in cali. |
| 03:12.11 | [g2] | I wish I had known |
| 03:12.23 | [g2] | that coulda been an avila purchase |
| 03:12.53 | dyoung-web | I tried to sell him that. |
| 03:13.00 | dyoung-web | but he said he already bought 300 nslu2's |
| 03:13.17 | [g2] | is there a follow-on buy ? |
| 03:13.24 | [g2] | does he need support ? :) |
| 03:13.33 | dyoung-web | hehe I think hes pretty self supported. |
| 03:13.51 | dyoung-web | the nslu2's are to be a gateway device from a network of wireless sensors. |
| 03:14.01 | dyoung-web | lemme dig it up, still looking. |
| 03:14.20 | dyoung-web | the 2 main guys are from berkeley. thats actually their "real job". |
| 03:14.56 | [g2] | oh the wireless motes thing |
| 03:15.15 | dyoung-web | yeah, thos guys. |
| 03:15.46 | jacques | i still would like a link because this is first I've heard of this |
| 03:16.18 | jacques | sigh, sparkfun had to double their board making cost from $2.50/in to $5.00/in |
| 03:16.35 | jacques | too good to last |
| 03:16.49 | dyoung-web | oh yeah, moteiv.com |
| 03:17.47 | dyoung-web | 300 nslu2's is almost m ind boggling. |
| 03:18.00 | jacques | dammit well they can't have my slugarmy domains! |
| 03:18.13 | dyoung-web | hehe you have slugarmy? |
| 03:18.17 | jacques | yep |
| 03:18.31 | dyoung-web | thats petty cool! |
| 03:19.42 | [g2] | moteiv.com is that the site for the 300 slugs ? |
| 03:20.07 | dyoung-web | jacques, you know about barebonespcb.com and 4pcb.com right? |
| 03:20.43 | ka6sox-away | been there...done that...didn't have good luck with either of them. |
| 03:20.45 | dyoung-web | the killer i guess is the $35 setup fee. |
| 03:20.56 | dyoung-web | Same here; I've had very good luck with them. |
| 03:21.11 | ka6sox-away | really? |
| 03:21.12 | dyoung-web | they are the same company. |
| 03:21.27 | ka6sox-away | ah..thats why... |
| 03:21.56 | dyoung-web | jacques, basically thats what sparkfun is doing. they are aggregating orders to place with 4pcb.com . |
| 03:22.13 | dyoung-web | [g2]: yes; thats the 300-slug guy. |
| 03:22.47 | [g2] | that's his company ? project ? ??? |
| 03:23.28 | dyoung-web | Oh excuse me, they are aggregating through Phoenix Tech. |
| 03:23.34 | dyoung-web | thats their company. |
| 03:23.41 | dyoung-web | they do similar stuff at work (at berk) |
| 03:24.41 | dyoung-web | http://bwrc.eecs.berkeley.edu/ |
| 03:25.50 | dyoung-web | now if I were a little smarter, I would setup a 501c3 research corporation so I/We could apply for research grants. |
| 03:28.30 | dyoung-web | [g2] anyways, thats what I want to do when I grow up. "Device consulting". |
| 03:28.57 | jacques | me too |
| 03:29.10 | jacques | maybe |
| 03:29.12 | jacques | :-) |
| 03:33.15 | [g2] | Hey check this out :) http://www.eeproductcenter.com/micro/brief/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=163103857 |
| 03:33.44 | dyoung-web | Does it run windows xp? |
| 03:34.19 | dyoung-web | Bah, dont lead me on like that! |
| 03:34.22 | dyoung-web | Theyre sold out! |
| 03:34.39 | jacques | argh |
| 03:34.47 | [g2] | sold-out :( |
| 03:35.02 | dyoung-web | I was gonna buy one right now too. |
| 03:36.49 | dyoung-web | [g2] are you a Avila reseller? |
| 03:36.56 | [g2] | nope |
| 03:37.25 | [g2] | Although if we had a big order I'm sure they would talk to us :) |
| 03:37.55 | [g2] | I don't think they really understand the premise |
| 03:38.11 | [g2] | that'll probably change in the next couple months |
| 03:38.27 | [g2] | hmmm.... |
| 03:39.48 | [g2] | well I'm off to bed |
| 03:39.55 | [g2] | sweet dreams gus |
| 03:39.56 | [g2] | guys |
| 03:39.59 | dyoung-web | ok nighty! |
| 03:40.19 | [g2] | thx for hw answer. cross your fingers :) |
| 03:40.46 | dyoung-web | ok, crossing! |
| 03:50.24 | jacques | i love how hollywood has no clue how a glock works |
| 03:50.47 | jacques | they're always making clicking noises as if you can cock and decock them |
| 03:50.52 | dyoung-web | what movie are you watching? |
| 03:51.13 | jacques | pick any movie with a glock in it |
| 03:51.24 | jacques | but right now some old eddie murphy thing called metro |
| 03:51.29 | dyoung-web | true... |
| 03:51.40 | dyoung-web | I'm still waiting to see a movie with a HK P90 in it. |
| 03:51.57 | dyoung-web | I dig the looks of that thing. I almost bought the airsoft toy of it. |
| 03:52.14 | jacques | let's not even get into the number of clicks on the guns which can be cocked/decocked |
| 03:52.40 | jacques | not familiar with the HK - they were always too rich for my blood |
| 03:54.04 | dyoung-web | I have a love affair with it because of a anime, Gunslinger Girl. |
| 03:54.09 | dyoung-web | I think it just came out here. |
| 03:54.13 | jacques | last night I was watching "open range" which is a damn good western, but at one point kevin costner fired nine shots from his revolver in one volley |
| 03:55.14 | dyoung-web | Oop, my bad, its a FN not Hk. |
| 03:55.21 | dyoung-web | http://world.guns.ru/smg/smg13-e.htm |
| 03:55.32 | dyoung-web | its so "cute" in that anime. |
| 03:55.44 | jacques | ah bp |
| 03:55.57 | ka6sox-away | I was watchin some War movie and they fired 10 shots out of a M1911A1 |
| 03:55.59 | dyoung-web | http://www.gunslingergirl.com/ |
| 03:56.00 | jacques | bullpups do have an interesting look |
| 03:56.17 | dyoung-web | the feed on this thing is messed up though. |
| 03:56.21 | jacques | ka6sox-away, heh |
| 03:56.26 | jacques | 7+1 baby |
| 03:56.39 | jacques | in those days, these days my shooting star mags get me 8+1 |
| 03:56.57 | dyoung-web | the mag is sideways, and theres a little spinny thing that makes then go in the right way. |
| 03:57.00 | ka6sox-away | Ya...got one in the Ready Service Mag. |
| 03:57.36 | jacques | dyoung-web, ah sounds like that French thing... forget the name |
| 03:57.43 | jacques | tho I thought it was caseless |
| 03:57.43 | dyoung-web | Fal? |
| 03:57.45 | jacques | yeah |
| 03:58.22 | dyoung-web | I should buy the P90 toy and violin case. |
| 03:58.38 | ka6sox-away | "play ya a tune on my violin? |
| 03:58.57 | dyoung-web | that anime was kind of messed up too come to think of it.... |
| 03:59.18 | jacques | the more I look at that the cooler it looks |
| 04:00.07 | jacques | what's that? tommygun? :-) |
| 04:00.18 | dyoung-web | it was meant to be used as a PDW. the round is kinda smallish, but is perfect for cqb. |
| 04:00.35 | ka6sox-away | or rather its sucessor the M1928A1 (tommy gun) |
| 04:01.01 | jacques | that's what 10 .45's per second? sweeet |
| 04:01.04 | dyoung-web | that was one of my requirements for a possible "consulting" offer I had in the "middle east" a few years ago. |
| 04:01.15 | ka6sox-away | but only with a Straight Stick Magazine..the Drums were "unreliable" |
| 04:01.53 | ka6sox-away | they used to tape 2 sticks upside down together.... |
| 04:02.16 | ka6sox-away | mine is "open bolt" |
| 04:02.38 | ka6sox-away | Can ya tell I like .45ACP? |
| 04:02.54 | jacques | it's my favorite handgun caliber by far |
| 04:03.04 | dyoung-web | Hmm, I wonder if I can make you cringe.... |
| 04:03.07 | dyoung-web | "Sten" |
| 04:04.23 | dyoung-web | "grease |
| 04:04.26 | dyoung-web | " ? |
| 04:07.45 | ka6sox-away | mac 10 |
| 04:08.10 | ka6sox-away | all of them Cheap, Stamped...not Tooled |
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| 04:11.09 | ka6sox-away | the Thompson is a very heavy piece. |
| 04:14.21 | ByronT | Thompson sounds like a gum |
| 04:14.23 | ByronT | gun |
| 04:14.28 | ka6sox-away | yes...it is. |
| 04:14.36 | dyoung-web | Enfield. |
| 04:14.47 | dyoung-web | sorry, i just have to cringe whenever someone says sten. |
| 04:14.56 | ka6sox-away | sten. |
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| 04:17.48 | [g2] | jacques, around ? |
| 04:17.57 | jacques | yeah |
| 04:18.10 | [g2] | can you look at my ID on AIM ? |
| 04:18.33 | [g2] | giantshoulderinc |
| 04:18.38 | jacques | look at how? I see you're signed in |
| 04:18.57 | [g2] | I've got no away message ? |
| 04:19.28 | jacques | it doesn't think you;re idle |
| 04:19.36 | jacques | not sure how gaim shows away message |
| 04:19.53 | jacques | ah I see it now |
| 04:20.12 | jacques | it talks about nslu2-linux |
| 04:20.12 | ByronT | what is your AIM id, jacques? |
| 04:20.36 | jacques | I just msged you ByronT |
| 04:21.04 | jacques | [g2], that answer your question? |
| 04:21.24 | dyoung-web | you guys all use aim too? |
| 04:21.41 | dyoung-web | iChat uses aim contacts. |
| 04:22.07 | jacques | dyoung-web, yeah, and it's sometimes useful as an OOB channel |
| 04:22.15 | dyoung-web | oob? |
| 04:22.40 | jacques | (out of band) |
| 04:22.51 | dyoung-web | Ooh. |
| 04:23.06 | [g2] | I hardly ever use it. I'm trying to hunt down a RV042/082 hacker |
| 04:23.45 | [g2] | And being that I'm so AIM savvy I needed help from my tech buddie jacques |
| 04:24.02 | jacques | my last job was all about IM |
| 04:24.10 | jacques | AIM, MSN, Y! |
| 04:24.18 | jacques | Jabber to a smaller extent |
| 04:24.24 | [g2] | you worked at zipit ? :) |
| 04:24.39 | jacques | nope, activebuddy now called conversagent |
| 04:24.52 | jacques | talk to smarterchild on aim and you'll see |
| 04:25.51 | jacques | SC is a cluster of linux boxes, about 20 dual processor machines |
| 04:27.26 | jacques | all together I admined about 120 linux boxes in that job |
| 04:28.23 | [g2] | cool |
| 04:29.02 | [g2] | so If I'm away I can't get messages |
| 04:29.13 | jacques | you should be able to |
| 04:29.27 | [g2] | ah.. they go through ? |
| 04:29.33 | jacques | tho I admit I don't use that feature |
| 04:29.48 | [g2] | oh.. it has to be enabled ? |
| 04:30.27 | jacques | i thought away was just a courtesy for ppl who might want to talk to you |
| 04:30.46 | jacques | did you get my test message just now? |
| 04:30.48 | [g2] | can you send me a message ? |
| 04:30.54 | jacques | I just did - "test" |
| 04:30.58 | [g2] | nod |
| 04:31.02 | [g2] | hi there |
| 04:31.04 | [g2] | cool |
| 04:31.37 | [g2] | THX jacques |
| 04:31.40 | jacques | np |
| 04:34.49 | jacques | my tivo knows how much I like "fargo" |
| 04:35.01 | jacques | it recorded it and now I'm watching it |
| 04:35.26 | dyoung-web | jacques, I think I might not be smart enough to hack my Tivo. |
| 04:35.29 | ka6sox-away | jacques, apofdoom |
| 04:36.22 | jacques | dyoung-web, I know the series 2 are harder, I have series 1 |
| 04:36.48 | [g2] | ok good nite for real... |
| 04:36.49 | jacques | anyone know a AIM screenname ending in monkey ? |
| 04:36.51 | ByronT | so what are some good PS2 games |
| 04:36.58 | ByronT | :) |
| 04:37.08 | jacques | they just added me as a buddy and it wants to know if I want to add them |
| 04:37.09 | ByronT | starts with moss? |
| 04:37.12 | jacques | yah |
| 04:37.18 | ByronT | and then an _ |
| 04:37.18 | [g2] | save your money XBOX 360 is coming out soon :) |
| 04:37.29 | jacques | ok I added it |
| 04:37.30 | jacques | :-) |
| 04:38.15 | ByronT | my wife gave me a PS2 for my birthday, :P |
| 04:38.18 | jacques | dyoung-web, whereabouts are wou getting stuck? |
| 04:38.24 | jacques | you |
| 04:38.26 | ka6sox-away | PS2 is nice! |
| 04:38.49 | ByronT | it's small! |
| 04:39.02 | dyoung-web | I dunno, I think I spent 1hr searching for info on 7.1 and came up pretty empty. |
| 04:39.31 | dyoung-web | so does that mean I need to back it up, then downgrade to 4.0.1 to perform any of these hacsk? |
| 04:39.58 | dyoung-web | I successfully backed up the original 80 to a 120; but I had really hoped to use a 200G disk. |
| 04:40.15 | dyoung-web | I dunno, maybe I didnt put enough effort into poking around yet. |
| 04:40.29 | jacques | that's a huge version jump to 7.1 - I had no idea it was that high on the series 2 - on series 1 it's stuck at 3.0.1 |
| 04:41.17 | dyoung-web | Well, I plugged it in and it updated itself from 4.0.1 to 7.1a. |
| 04:41.23 | ByronT | <- has a directivo... we were just told that my Series 2 will be upgraded to 6.2 |
| 04:41.31 | jacques | you see your model on this page: http://9thtee.com/tivoupgrades.htm |
| 04:41.32 | dyoung-web | when I first turned it on it was 4.0.1. |
| 04:41.48 | jacques | i guess 7.x has that new fast forward ad thingie |
| 04:42.14 | dyoung-web | it was all annoying. I didnt intend for it to upgrade itself. It just did it. |
| 04:42.29 | dyoung-web | I have a 240080. |
| 04:42.33 | ByronT | and the folders |
| 04:43.11 | jacques | they have folders now? |
| 04:43.31 | ByronT | Folders for music and video (I thought) |
| 04:44.16 | ByronT | sorting of the Now Playing list by show names, and by Season Passes |
| 04:45.35 | jacques | hopefully my series 1 will never be "upgraded" again |
| 04:45.53 | jacques | last upgrade screwed it up and I'd rather it not get any more screwed up |
| 04:45.58 | ka6sox-away | time for NWN. |
| 04:46.09 | jacques | have fun ka6sox-away |
| 04:46.34 | ka6sox-away | my rogue needs more practise. |
| 04:47.14 | dyoung-web | Oh well. I have the original hard drive safely stored away, I guess I'll screw around with the 200 until I bend it to my will. |
| 04:49.06 | jacques | lol fargo reminds me how much I hate car salesmen |
| 04:51.21 | jacques | dakota ppl talk funny |
| 04:53.36 | dyoung-web | Bastage! Tivo rates just go up recently? |
| 04:54.25 | jacques | they did? |
| 04:54.29 | jacques | how much? |
| 04:54.35 | jacques | I have lifetime from when it was $200 |
| 04:55.22 | dyoung-web | L/T $300, Monthly $13. |
| 04:55.31 | ByronT | ouch |
| 04:55.43 | jacques | i think it's been $13 for a while |
| 04:55.52 | jacques | and LT has been $300 for a while too :-( |
| 04:55.52 | ByronT | with DirecTV, the Tivo service is only $4.99 per receiver |
| 04:56.02 | jacques | yeah DT is a different deal |
| 04:56.12 | dyoung-web | Really? Last time I looked it was $10. |
| 04:56.19 | ByronT | completely different deal |
| 04:56.22 | dyoung-web | but that might have been a while ago |
| 04:56.59 | ByronT | but you can *blackmail* DirecTV into giving you an 80 hour DirecTivo unit |
| 04:57.10 | ByronT | by telling them that you might switch to cable |
| 04:57.31 | dyoung-web | jacques: so is your Tivo happily telnet enabled? |
| 04:57.53 | dyoung-web | I'm reading there a lot of hassles it making things work right on a series2 |
| 04:58.06 | jacques | dyoung-web, yeah, I added a turbonet card to it - mostly so I could get rid of the land line requirement |
| 04:58.31 | jacques | and I can telnet to it, but I haven't done much else - I wanted to setup the webserver etc |
| 04:59.08 | dyoung-web | thats what I want to do too... but.... |
| 04:59.10 | dyoung-web | sigh |
| 04:59.23 | dyoung-web | I need a brain transplant or something. |
| 04:59.44 | ka6sox-away | hey dyoung-web...you have to stand in line behind me! |
| 05:00.27 | jacques | dyoung-web, there's an iso image somewhere you can burn onto a cd, then boot a machine with that, hook up the drive, and go from there |
| 05:00.34 | jacques | that's how series 1 is done these days |
| 05:00.40 | jacques | pretty sure series 2 as well |
| 05:01.36 | dyoung-web | Well, I guess more fiddling is required. |
| 05:01.42 | dyoung-web | I should put it in the wiki. |
| 05:01.46 | dyoung-web | I hate searching forums. |
| 05:02.03 | jacques | basically, the cdrom boots a linux kernel which has the tivo fs built in |
| 05:02.13 | ka6sox-away | forums suck. |
| 05:02.16 | jacques | so it can manipulate the tivo partitions |
| 05:02.21 | ka6sox-away | they are a nightmare. |
| 05:02.35 | dyoung-web | I downloaded one such iso. |
| 05:02.41 | dyoung-web | it seems to work. |
| 05:02.50 | jacques | also, endian-ness is different, but the new stuff should make that transparent |
| 05:02.54 | dyoung-web | but I think I might have had PEBKAC. |
| 05:03.47 | jacques | it's been about three years since I upgraded the capacity in my series 1, and about 8 months since I added the turbonet, so I don't remember everything |
| 05:07.27 | dyoung-web | I hvae tivo on the brain now |
| 05:07.38 | dyoung-web | I think I need to ignore this CRC problem and go home and play with Tivo. |
| 05:08.20 | ka6sox-away | lol! |
| 05:11.31 | dyoung-web | ka6sox-away: I forgot to ask earlier. Will changing the value of my pull-up from 100k (my frankenstien test board) TO 47k (your production board) significantly affect rise times and stuff? |
| 05:13.59 | dyoung-web | I'll find the answer in the log |
| 05:14.05 | dyoung-web | bbl |
| 06:32.30 | ka6sox-away | yes |
| 06:32.35 | ka6sox-away | it *should* help |
| 06:32.40 | ka6sox-away | r |
| 06:32.43 | ka6sox-away | rats |
| 06:34.27 | dyoung-zzzz | should "help" in which direction? |
| 06:37.43 | ka6sox-away | make it faster |
| 06:42.22 | dyoung-zzzz | Aha, that makes sense then |
| 06:42.25 | dyoung-zzzz | how much faster? |
| 06:44.37 | ka6sox-away | 2x? |
| 06:44.43 | ka6sox-away | RC |
| 06:45.00 | ka6sox-away | C is small but R is relatively large. |
| 06:47.12 | jbowler | 2x (100/47) unless C varies with I, which only happens if I is too large (and it only happens once). |
| 06:48.53 | ka6sox-away | HCT input |
| 06:49.06 | dyoung-zzzz | that explains everything then. |
| 06:49.57 | ka6sox-away | Opencollector driving a single HCT input. |
| 06:50.12 | ka6sox-away | and the OC can sink 20ma |
| 06:50.27 | ka6sox-away | (which from a 5v source is impossible. |
| 06:50.30 | ka6sox-away | ) |
| 06:57.55 | ka6sox-away | at least with a 100k pullup. |
| 06:58.00 | ka6sox-away | :) |
| 06:59.53 | jbowler | You could try a 220ohm and see what happens ;-) |
| 07:02.20 | ka6sox-away | it'd be quick! |
| 07:03.46 | jbowler | 3ns? You could get in quite a lot of switches before it stopped working. |
| 07:04.25 | ka6sox-away | parts only good to 10ns! |
| 07:05.28 | jbowler | Then it would be fine - a nice sine wave, only averaging about 10ma. |
| 07:06.02 | jbowler | Not exactly digital electronics of course ;-) |
| 07:08.03 | ka6sox-away | these aren't mixed signal CPLD's |
| 07:25.40 | dyoung-zzzz | jacques, It seems I'm gonna be SOL for this series2 modification project. |
| 07:26.24 | dyoung-zzzz | There isnt series2 support for Tystudio, and tivoweb apparently is busted for series2. |
| 07:27.00 | jacques | ah damn :-( |
| 07:27.09 | jacques | I knew s2 were a PITA |
| 07:27.35 | jacques | I have two spare s1 that I bought to hack |
| 07:27.40 | dyoung-zzzz | Wow. |
| 07:28.00 | jacques | surpluscomputers.com had them for like $120 a while back |
| 07:28.08 | dyoung-zzzz | I gotta keep my eyes open i guess. |
| 07:28.29 | dyoung-zzzz | I found a bunch of instructions that are supposed to work; but I cant find all the bits to make it go yet. |
| 07:32.15 | jacques | dyoung-zzzz, do you know what you're missing? |
| 07:32.36 | dyoung-zzzz | a directory of s2 kernels atm. |
| 07:32.50 | dyoung-zzzz | that I can run this killhdinitrd stuff on. |
| 07:33.24 | jacques | you fighting with some hd locking thing? |
| 07:34.09 | dyoung-zzzz | Interesting. I just read that smeone compiled tytools for mips and it sorta works. |
| 07:34.22 | dyoung-zzzz | I dont think I have the locking problem. |
| 07:34.22 | jacques | ah yeah, they changed proc archs |
| 07:34.38 | jacques | one thing about the tivo community that always annoyed me |
| 07:34.54 | dyoung-zzzz | if I ever get this worked out I am going to have to cram it into wiki. |
| 07:34.55 | jacques | ppl hold onto their source like it's MS code or something |
| 07:35.16 | jacques | everything's all binary releases |
| 07:35.22 | dyoung-zzzz | yeah, its the "see how l33t I am!" |
| 07:35.27 | dyoung-zzzz | syndrome. |
| 07:35.31 | jacques | exactly - extremely annoying |
| 07:35.57 | jacques | just like on pocketpc - every dumbass who can write two lines of code think it's worth $10-$40 |
| 07:36.22 | dyoung-zzzz | Yeah, when youre *really* l33t like us, we release source like ... hmm. |
| 07:36.58 | dyoung-zzzz | cant think of a good one. sorry. :-) |
| 07:38.24 | dyoung-zzzz | I guess that must mean we're not all l33t and stuff. :-) |
| 08:21.03 | ka6sox-away | d00d u n0t s00 l33t |
| 08:22.30 | dyoung-zzzz | Grr. |
| 08:22.39 | dyoung-zzzz | It shouldnt be this difficult to hack your Tivo. :-) |
| 08:31.53 | jacques | they intentionally made it harder for s2 |
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| 09:21.38 | dyoung-zzzz | I might have to revert to brute force. |
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| 10:36.25 | dyoung-zzzz | Ahhh.... Okay. |
| 10:36.56 | dyoung-zzzz | if I can figure out how to enable telnet or get a console I found enough information to make this work. |
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| 17:51.47 | [g2] | beewoolie, I dropped off the hw today |
| 17:52.00 | beewoolie | For rework? |
| 17:52.03 | [g2] | nod |
| 17:52.07 | beewoolie | Awesome. |
| 17:52.17 | [g2] | looks like they can do NSLU2's too :) |
| 17:54.07 | [g2] | so are you interested in a pimped out NSLU2 @ 64M, serial and JTAG ? |
| 17:55.21 | [g2] | ep1220, hey |
| 17:55.38 | [g2] | are you having any luck with the spartan3 and cypress part ? |
| 17:56.04 | ep1220 | [g2] Hi |
| 17:56.33 | ep1220 | I can talk to the Cypress Chip from the Cypress SDK |
| 17:57.05 | ep1220 | Currently I am learning to use the FPGA software |
| 17:57.22 | [g2] | AWESOME |
| 17:57.46 | [g2] | that's the USB2 from the digilent board ? |
| 17:57.52 | beewoolie | [g2]: Not sure about the pimped nslu2. do you think they can fix the jtag pads I broke? |
| 17:58.18 | [g2] | beewoolie, depends on the pads, probably not worth it |
| 17:58.23 | ep1220 | [g2]: yes. |
| 17:59.45 | ep1220 | [g2] but this is only a small step in writing a frimware to talk to the S3 |
| 18:00.19 | [g2] | well it's the biggest step taken so far and that's important |
| 18:00.34 | [g2] | sometimes a little movement attracts others :) |
| 18:00.58 | ep1220 | We will see :-) |
| 18:01.24 | [g2] | so are you reprogramming the cypress ? |
| 18:01.25 | ep1220 | I also have a FTDI 2232 module here. |
| 18:01.40 | [g2] | is it the 2232C by chances ? |
| 18:01.59 | ep1220 | [g2] Yes, I want to evaluate it. |
| 18:02.25 | [g2] | that's got the straight through to JTAG mode as an app note right |
| 18:02.25 | ep1220 | Need a few circuits around it to connect to a JTAG |
| 18:02.54 | ep1220 | [g2]: yes, it has JTAG TAP inside |
| 18:03.25 | [g2] | We could really use that now |
| 18:04.15 | ep1220 | Advantage over my 8051 solution would be: It is available in very low volume |
| 18:04.51 | [g2] | what do you mean by low volume ? |
| 18:05.23 | ep1220 | one can buy down to single units. the 8051 is 160+ |
| 18:07.23 | [g2] | how hard would it be to layout the 2332C design ? |
| 18:07.35 | ka6sox-office | 2232? |
| 18:07.43 | ka6sox-office | the FT part? |
| 18:07.53 | ep1220 | ka6sox-away: yes |
| 18:07.58 | [g2] | ka6sox-office, 6 minutes ago in the log |
| 18:08.23 | ka6sox-office | I see it...I have it almost done. |
| 18:08.31 | ka6sox-office | worked on it last night. |
| 18:08.55 | ka6sox-office | 2 chips and a bunch of pins. |
| 18:09.01 | ka6sox-office | (and a USB connector. |
| 18:09.21 | ka6sox-office | need to have somebody verify it. |
| 18:09.48 | [g2] | what software did you use for the design layout ? |
| 18:10.27 | ka6sox-office | PCB |
| 18:10.33 | ka6sox-office | and geda |
| 18:10.56 | [g2] | I know some hw guys that can review the design |
| 18:11.07 | [g2] | what are you plans with it ? |
| 18:11.10 | ka6sox-office | I'll post it up on the wiki |
| 18:11.15 | ka6sox-office | I plan on building it. |
| 18:11.20 | ep1220 | ka6sox-away: if You want I can take a look at it |
| 18:11.23 | ka6sox-office | and building about 15 or so of them. |
| 18:11.42 | ka6sox-office | ep1220, i'll take you up on that. |
| 18:12.05 | ka6sox-office | when I finish it today I'll post it up on the wiki and tell people here in channel. |
| 18:12.25 | ep1220 | ka6sox-away: openjtag wiki ? |
| 18:12.38 | [g2] | ka6sox-office, do you have a costed BOM ? |
| 18:13.18 | ka6sox-office | that will come right after I finish the "design" |
| 18:13.38 | ka6sox-office | <$35 is what I'm looking for. |
| 18:14.16 | [g2] | It that fully assembled or just the cost of the BOM and PCB ? |
| 18:15.08 | ka6sox-office | dunno...the cost of the chip (ft2232c) is $8 each in small quantities. |
| 18:15.25 | [g2] | define small please |
| 18:15.26 | ka6sox-office | and the CPLD is $3.16/each |
| 18:15.31 | ka6sox-office | <50 |
| 18:16.35 | ka6sox-office | then connectors and Board are all that is left I need to look at cases. |
| 18:17.01 | [g2] | any idea how fast the price drops at 100 or 200 units ? |
| 18:18.03 | ka6sox-office | at 100 the FT part is $6.20 |
| 18:18.32 | ka6sox-office | so 25% for 100qty. |
| 18:19.31 | ka6sox-office | the boards then essentially become cost of production and NO setup (very low amoratization of setup) |
| 18:19.53 | ka6sox-office | the biggest issue for me is the connectorization. |
| 18:20.21 | ka6sox-office | the Digilent connector is fine + using flying leads alternatively. |
| 18:21.28 | [g2] | are you just bringing 8 pins out ? |
| 18:21.51 | [g2] | or 14, 20 ? |
| 18:21.55 | ka6sox-office | haven't decided exactly what to bring out...was going to ask the community/ |
| 18:22.07 | ka6sox-office | what do you "want/need: |
| 18:22.17 | [g2] | how many I/Os does the CPLD support ? |
| 18:22.22 | ka6sox-office | brb |
| 18:22.40 | ep1220 | ka6sox-office: i would use the 2nd channel for 3.3/5V serial to USB |
| 18:23.16 | [g2] | ep1220, at one point we had talked about using 1 channel for control and 1 for data |
| 18:23.55 | ep1220 | [g2] do not understand what You mean ? |
| 18:24.33 | [g2] | iirc the FT2232C is a dual device no ? |
| 18:25.11 | ep1220 | Yes, Chan A can be JTAG, bit bang, serial , parallel. |
| 18:25.20 | ep1220 | Chan B is serial/parallel only |
| 18:25.52 | ep1220 | When Chan A does JTAG, it can also do 8bit IO |
| 18:25.53 | [g2] | ok.. So Chan B would be serial/parallel control channel to setup the CPLD |
| 18:26.30 | [g2] | and Chan A would drive the JTAG data |
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| 18:26.39 | ep1220 | Possible. |
| 18:26.56 | ep1220 | But Chan A GPIO could also bit-bang the CPLD. |
| 18:27.02 | ep1220 | Then Chan B can be serial |
| 18:27.07 | [g2] | then we'd have an out-of-band communications channel for settnig up the CPLD |
| 18:27.25 | [g2] | quite possible |
| 18:28.03 | [g2] | I've heard of data rates near 20Mb with the FTDI part |
| 18:28.18 | ep1220 | Mb == Mbit ? |
| 18:28.23 | [g2] | yes |
| 18:28.43 | [g2] | for JTAG iirc |
| 18:28.48 | ep1220 | No, the eval module doc: It can sustan 5.4Mb. |
| 18:29.05 | ep1220 | It is USB1.1 so 12Mb theoretical maximum |
| 18:29.21 | ep1220 | JTAG clock is 6 Mbit max |
| 18:29.38 | [g2] | from that part |
| 18:30.30 | [g2] | but the Cypress is a USB 2.0 High-speed device correct ? |
| 18:30.59 | ep1220 | yes |
| 18:31.16 | ep1220 | the 8051 does USB house-keeping |
| 18:31.29 | ep1220 | a DMA engine passes data along to the S3 |
| 18:32.06 | [g2] | so what's the max frame size 512 or can it be bigger |
| 18:32.24 | [g2] | and which mode would you run the chip in |
| 18:32.41 | [g2] | bulk xfer, interrupt, async ? |
| 18:33.33 | ep1220 | g2: bulk |
| 18:35.04 | ep1220 | on usb1.1 "on-the-wire" packet size is max 64, 512 for USB2 |
| 18:35.25 | ep1220 | But one can transfer larger "logical" packets. |
| 18:35.39 | ep1220 | The driver splits them |
| 18:36.34 | [g2] | nod. I was reading something about the on chip memory and how many frames could be allocated to its buffer |
| 18:38.32 | ep1220 | in USB terms Frame has a special meaning. |
| 18:38.50 | ep1220 | E.g. on USB1. frame length is 1microsecond |
| 18:39.13 | ep1220 | It is used e.g. for syncing Audio devices |
| 18:40.10 | ep1220 | I prefer not to use the word frame for plain data,as it can be confusing |
| 18:42.01 | ka6sox-office | 5.4Mb is correct. |
| 18:42.42 | ka6sox-office | the idea is to use the Chan B as OOB setup. |
| 18:43.00 | ka6sox-office | either parallel or serial |
| 18:43.09 | ka6sox-office | but probably parallel. |
| 18:44.39 | ka6sox-office | I've asked Xilinx about using different Vccio's on different I/O blocks. |
| 18:44.46 | ka6sox-office | (since there are several) |
| 18:45.47 | ka6sox-office | such that we can have the interface to the FT chip be 3.3v (off the USB bus) and the DUT side as whatever voltage is necessary for making the other side work. |
| 18:46.59 | ep1220 | ka6sox-office: what type of Xilinx CPLD ? |
| 18:47.16 | ka6sox-office | XC9536XL-10vq44 |
| 18:50.12 | ep1220 | ka6sox-office: Once You have posted the schematic, I will check it. |
| 18:54.22 | ka6sox-office | ep1220, look in about 6hrs on the wiki and I'll announce it here. |
| 18:57.23 | ep1220 | ka6sox-office, I will look at it tomorrow morning (my time) |
| 18:57.23 | ka6sox-office | europe? |
| 18:57.23 | ka6sox-office | CET |
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| 18:58.54 | ep1220 | yes, |
| 19:03.29 | [g2] | ep1220, so back to the USB2 and Spartan3 |
| 19:03.45 | ka6sox-office | wait for the S3e board... |
| 19:03.48 | [g2] | You've got a linux host talking to the usb2 ? |
| 19:03.50 | ka6sox-office | it will be MUCH better. |
| 19:05.26 | ka6sox-office | bbiab..lunch |
| 19:05.56 | ep1220 | [g2] all done in windowze till now |
| 19:06.08 | ep1220 | the cypress SDK is win only |
| 19:06.39 | [g2] | ep1220, OK... |
| 19:06.52 | [g2] | we should really just reverse engineer that :) |
| 19:07.21 | ep1220 | is a possibility as well. |
| 19:07.43 | ep1220 | however, it limits our capabilities on talking to the S3 |
| 19:09.36 | ep1220 | what the Cypress SDK does is not a secret. |
| 19:10.39 | ep1220 | but i am reluctant on to putting time into Linux |
| 19:10.51 | ep1220 | till i am sure all works as i expect. |
| 19:11.15 | [g2] | nod. |
| 19:11.22 | [g2] | that's understandable |
| 19:13.55 | ep1220 | performance wise there are some open questions. |
| 19:14.26 | ep1220 | Depends on the implementation of the USB engines in the chips |
| 19:14.33 | ep1220 | both cypress and FTDI |
| 19:16.19 | ep1220 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:16.37 | ep1220 | JTag is 3.3V on this model ? |
| 19:18.20 | [g2] | http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Info/PinoutOfJTAGPort |
| 19:18.27 | [g2] | think so on the JTAG |
| 19:18.31 | [g2] | the 3.3v |
| 19:18.48 | [g2] | and Yes that was for the NSLU2 and the RV042 and RV082 |
| 19:21.14 | ep1220 | Do the RV042/082 have a JTAG connector on board ? |
| 19:21.25 | [g2] | there's a header |
| 19:21.53 | [g2] | I'll be trying to verify that the JTAG is all brought out to the header and working |
| 19:22.57 | ep1220 | good |
| 19:24.30 | [g2] | Hey did you guys see the PMOD-RS232 at digilent ? |
| 19:27.45 | ep1220 | Looks good. |
| 19:28.09 | ep1220 | If shipping to here were not so expensive I would order one ;-) |
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| 20:32.36 | beewoolie | [g2]: Hey man. I assume you've created jffs2 filesystems for openslug, right? |
| 20:43.33 | jacques | beewoolie, maybe I can help |
| 20:44.01 | beewoolie | jacques: OK. I've been working on the JFFS2 reader code. |
| 20:44.17 | jacques | cool |
| 20:44.27 | beewoolie | There's some sticky issues having to do with the way it logs. |
| 20:44.48 | beewoolie | the first question I have is this. Has the mkjffs2 program been fixed to properly handle hard links? |
| 20:44.57 | beewoolie | do we use hard links in the jffs2 for openslug? |
| 20:45.24 | jacques | I'm not aware of us using hard links in openslug. |
| 20:45.36 | beewoolie | OK. I suspect it may still be broken. |
| 20:45.53 | jacques | you have a recent mtd version ? |
| 20:45.53 | beewoolie | If you really want to help, you could do me a big favor. |
| 20:46.08 | beewoolie | I'd like to have a jffs2 filesystem that has been used. |
| 20:46.40 | beewoolie | I haven't looked at the code in a while, for mkjffs2. the hard-links stuff was unimplemented as of 1.42, iirc. |
| 20:47.42 | beewoolie | So, if you'd like to make this easy on me, you'd extract the jffs2 filesystem from memory and send it to me. |
| 20:48.21 | [g2] | beewoolie, just dd the jffs2 partition |
| 20:48.36 | [g2] | I can email you one |
| 20:48.36 | beewoolie | jacques: BTW, the endian stuff isn't really a problem. I discovered that it is always in native byte-order. Reasonable choice considering the way things are used. |
| 20:48.47 | beewoolie | [g2]: I don't have one right now. I still havent built it. |
| 20:48.58 | beewoolie | If you want to email one, that would be supercool. |
| 20:49.08 | [g2] | there's a binary at openslug.nslu2-linux.org :) |
| 20:49.20 | [g2] | sure I'll be happy to e-mail you one |
| 20:49.21 | beewoolie | Right. I want to use apex and I don't want to fuss. |
| 20:49.36 | beewoolie | Having a built one will make it easier to tinker. |
| 20:49.44 | [g2] | do you just want the whole image ? |
| 20:50.04 | [g2] | meaning you'll have the kernel too |
| 20:50.40 | [g2] | I think the whole shooting match squeezes down to like 4MB |
| 20:50.47 | [g2] | bzipped2 |
| 20:50.48 | beewoolie | What I want is just the jffs2 part. I want to see how changes to the filesystem come out in the logs. |
| 20:51.02 | beewoolie | If the kernel is in there, then that's fine. |
| 20:51.14 | [g2] | the kernel is in there |
| 20:51.32 | beewoolie | so, you have two copies of the kernel right now? |
| 20:51.37 | [g2] | nod |
| 20:51.43 | beewoolie | hmm. |
| 20:51.59 | [g2] | it's just the way OE builds it and we haven't taken it out |
| 20:52.18 | [g2] | because I was hoping one day we could run it out of the rootfs :) |
| 20:52.25 | beewoolie | Well, I have the basics down for reading jffs2. I just want to make sure that a working jffs2 doesn't throw any curves. |
| 20:53.00 | [g2] | I may have deleted the kernel from the jffs2 on the system I've got |
| 20:53.10 | beewoolie | That's fine. |
| 20:53.14 | beewoolie | I'd like to see that, too. |
| 20:56.38 | jacques | beewoolie, when you say "used" you mean a jffs2 fs which has been mounted ? |
| 20:57.06 | beewoolie | jacques: mounted. Files written. Files deleted. Files renamed. Whatever. |
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| 21:12.43 | [g2] | kas11, HEY !! |
| 21:16.32 | kas11 | hiya [g2] ;) |
| 21:17.22 | kas11 | waz up in toyland? |
| 21:18.53 | [g2] | beewoolie, you've got e-mail |
| 21:19.07 | beewoolie | Yes I do. |
| 21:19.22 | kas11 | I've been buzy breaking everything with Ubuntu...wondering if I really need to get a grip and just do debian instead...I found I was way too mentally lazy for gentoo |
| 21:19.23 | [g2] | kas11, did you here the APEX news ? |
| 21:19.24 | beewoolie | You're a saint. |
| 21:19.50 | [g2] | yeah kas11 is a saint |
| 21:20.12 | kas11 | I heard you had APEX booting the fat slag iirc, [g2] |
| 21:20.39 | [g2] | kas11, it's boots both the 64MB avila and the 32MB slug |
| 21:20.44 | [g2] | and all works fine |
| 21:21.07 | kas11 | very kewl |
| 21:22.09 | [g2] | and a hard worker too! |
| 21:22.20 | [g2] | kas11, two things |
| 21:22.55 | [g2] | 1) There's an insight from jbowler that the RTC is causing NTP to hang on openslug |
| 21:23.23 | [g2] | 2) For testing Gigabit NAS, I got an AMD64 that rocks da house |
| 21:23.50 | [g2] | and I've sent some boards to the re-work fram |
| 21:23.53 | [g2] | farm |
| 21:25.26 | kas11 | A64s do rock...I have a poor old 3200 athlon xp that doesn't even get powered up anymore |
| 21:25.49 | [g2] | I wiped my 37G Raptor drive in 712 seconds (nearly 49MBs) |
| 21:26.11 | kas11 | darn....'tis fast |
| 21:26.29 | [g2] | that's in 32bit compatibility mode |
| 21:26.50 | [g2] | the other things is that the Rapter is not the fastest drive I've got |
| 21:27.00 | kas11 | I mostly run 32 bits...can't see all that much difference in 64 bit mode and there are hassles |
| 21:27.36 | [g2] | I got a Maxtor 300G 16MB and it's got NCQ but was getting 60MB on the P4 where the Raptor was only getting 55 |
| 21:28.32 | kas11 | the 2.6.11 386 ubuntu doesn't like me anymore so I am running it 64 bit tho...seems like Nautilus won't start but the logs are devoid of anything useful |
| 21:28.37 | [g2] | So I'll be trying a pair of those Raid 0 it a little while and pulling / pushing across the GigE pipe with Jumbo frames |
| 21:29.11 | [g2] | I'm just running a vanilla 2.6.11 Knoppix on it |
| 21:29.24 | [g2] | I've looked in to building Gentoo on it |
| 21:29.53 | [g2] | next time I talk to solar and spanky I find out if it's worth it |
| 21:30.06 | [g2] | I've also toyed with building OpenSlug on it |
| 21:31.20 | kas11 | I am still prevaricating on GigE here...once I get a handle on debian/ubuntu I'll take the plunge...but since I am only using the 2 A64s, I may just do a short crossover cable and mess with my routing tables |
| 21:32.54 | kas11 | I got to a point where I had X on gentoo amd64...but doing all of gnome was more than I was up to |
| 21:33.57 | kas11 | all those cycles down the drain...5.5 hrs with the cpu pretty well pegged *lol* |
| 21:34.17 | [g2] | yeah... Gentoo can peg the box |
| 21:34.25 | [g2] | it's really a good stress test |
| 21:35.49 | kas11 | yeppers...that was a good part of the reason why I did it...I am overclocking this box (/me hangs head) so I wanted to see what it did when I really pushed it |
| 21:47.03 | kas11 | [g2] I have no real idea about why x1205-rtc is hanging NTP...I'd have to move stuff over to ubuntu and build via the old makefile to even check...and ubuntu doesn't like to mount Fedora ext3 partitions so nothing has been moved over yet |
| 21:48.26 | kas11 | I had virtually no userland on my slug so never looked a ntp |
| 22:03.21 | [g2]-dinner | np. It was just FYI |
| 22:06.55 | kas11 | is OpenSlug still using BK? |
| 22:12.50 | [g2] | it is there, but there is also a tarball snapshot of the metadata |
| 22:12.56 | [g2] | and a binary :) |
| 22:20.15 | kas11 | I was just wondering if they had moved to subversion or something ... I never did get the whole OE thing |
| 22:24.57 | ka6sox-office | Hiya ka6sox-away |
| 22:25.00 | ka6sox-office | heh |
| 22:25.06 | ka6sox-office | hiya kas11 |
| 22:31.57 | kas11 | hey ka6sox-office ;) |
| 22:35.12 | ka6sox-office | how have you been? |
| 22:41.09 | ka6sox-office | kas11, how did you make out with the Cypress chip in the Digilent board? |
| 22:44.19 | [g2] | kas11, so how's the gumstix ? |
| 22:50.52 | kas11 | haven't been doing anything with either, ka6sox-office ... just been dinking around with the full sized boxes |
| 22:51.12 | ka6sox-office | hopefuly your own and NOT the neighbors! |
| 22:51.48 | kas11 | well.... |
| 22:52.23 | ka6sox-office | that'll be $100 please! |
| 22:53.04 | kas11 | nothing where any money changes hands is fair to say |
| 22:55.44 | ka6sox-office | bummer |
| 23:01.22 | kas11 | I've been thinking I need to figure out ebay so I can unload some of this stuff ... digilent and slug need new homes and prolly the gumstix too |
| 23:02.56 | [g2] | Doh! |
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| 23:43.24 | jbowler | beewoolie: jffs2 fully supports hard links - I'm pretty sure I would have noticed by now if there were any problems, there is something broken in the OE build process for jffs2 with respect to a file with >1 hard link (but not a directory) - that could be the mkfs, but I suspect something in the ipkg handling of a tar archive. |
| 23:52.37 | jacques | jbowler-away, what about this (from mkfs.jffs2 man page)? |
| 23:52.40 | jacques | mkfs.jffs2 does not properly handle hard links in the input directory structure. Currently, hard linked |
| 23:52.40 | jacques | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:54.07 | beewoolie | jacques: that's what I'm talking about. |
| 23:54.20 | beewoolie | It seems like it would have been an easy thing to fix. |
| 23:54.39 | jbowler-away | jacques: from memory when I looked at the rootfs after an ipkg install the hard links (after the first) weren't there at all, but I might be wrong - so I don't think I ever managed to find out what mkfs.jffs2 did ;-) |
| 23:54.41 | [g2] | beewoolie, any luck reading the jffs2 info ? |
| 23:56.03 | beewoolie | [g2]: I can read the data fine. I've come up with a plan that should make the read process reasonably efficient. |
| 23:56.29 | [g2] | excellent ... we only need to read to boot the kernel :) |
| 23:56.36 | beewoolie | One of the sample pieces of code re-reads the data over and over again. |
| 23:57.05 | beewoolie | Oh yeah. There won't be a write function. I've been worrying over the algorithm so that it doesn't take 30s to read the kernel. |
| 23:57.19 | [g2] | nod. |
| 23:57.32 | beewoolie | BTW, this is substantially simpler than the USB driver would be. |
| 23:58.17 | [g2] | today |