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| 10:32.17 | ao2 | hi |
| 10:33.15 | sabrod | Hi ao2 |
| 10:41.25 | alain2210 | Hello |
| 11:01.17 | ao2 | ok, caching up with latest openezx changes |
| 11:01.27 | ao2 | catching... :) |
| 11:02.21 | ao2 | I saw some fixes on spi and mmc, let's see if a910 works now |
| 11:03.13 | ao2 | alain2210, do you know if all the latest changes about suspendd/resume, bp and poweroff have been committed by WurM already? |
| 11:03.47 | ao2 | WyrM even |
| 11:03.52 | alain2210 | ao2: it depends. the great bug is not commited but easy to fix : |
| 11:05.23 | alain2210 | should be usb_set_intfdata(intf, bvd_ipc) and not usb_set_intfdata(intf, &bvd_ipc) |
| 11:06.07 | alain2210 | with this standby works, but mem sleep shutdown the phone the second time |
| 11:06.25 | alain2210 | since pgsr are not saved. |
| 11:06.51 | alain2210 | I have saved it. and now the only bug is that mem sleep autoresume. |
| 11:07.03 | alain2210 | about poweroff it is not committed. |
| 11:09.19 | sabrod | alain2210: great job! :p |
| 11:09.47 | ao2 | so, the problem is that it it autoresumes, but al least it autoresumes fine every time, insn't it? |
| 11:10.26 | sabrod | ao2: about mmc, I wish you good luck, still the old fix/patch works, even if offseted by the changes...but I couln't have it to work... |
| 11:10.47 | ao2 | sabrod, still the I/O errors? |
| 11:11.16 | sabrod | (I reverted everything from nov2008 in http://people.openezx.org/sabrod/old_mmc_drivers_for_2.6.30_rc3 ) |
| 11:11.24 | sabrod | yes, I'm quite sure. |
| 11:11.29 | alain2210 | yes autoresume every time. and for standby perfect. |
| 11:11.54 | alain2210 | sabrod: the bug was found by wyrm. |
| 11:12.06 | ao2 | alain2210, so we are quite near to proper mem sleep, very good |
| 11:12.13 | sabrod | with trivials updates... |
| 11:12.28 | alain2210 | ao2: very close. only one thing to understand. |
| 11:12.37 | alain2210 | the autoresume. |
| 11:12.38 | ao2 | alain2210, ant the cause of autoresume? do you think it is BP that wake up AP? |
| 11:12.39 | sabrod | alain2210: I heard that you did participate... ;) |
| 11:13.20 | alain2210 | ao2: yes PEDR says that it is the bp. |
| 11:13.49 | alain2210 | sabrod: I test and only try to understand. |
| 11:14.38 | sabrod | Hehe... call it like that if you want... |
| 11:15.02 | ao2 | alain2210, so the wakeup by BP is either over usb or gpio, right? |
| 11:15.58 | alain2210 | ao2: if I understand, the BP wake up the AP by modifying gpio 0. |
| 11:16.33 | ao2 | sabrod, that patch you pointed me to is alla the changes from a working version and the latest code? |
| 11:17.23 | sabrod | Well, yes, I can find the git hash, but yes all /mmc changes from 2.6.28rc2 |
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| 11:18.12 | ao2 | sabrod, what I am most interest in is if 2.6.28rc2 works ok on a910 |
| 11:18.23 | ao2 | s/interest/interested/ |
| 11:18.54 | sabrod | Heh, yes, but with the fix :( |
| 11:19.25 | ao2 | sure the mmc_spi share hack, of course |
| 11:19.30 | sabrod | the mmc_spi allowing share fix |
| 11:19.48 | ao2 | but it does work with only that change? |
| 11:20.34 | sabrod | No, i's just very verbose, with the newer... :) |
| 11:21.11 | sabrod | And well all that errors are not good, for the card filesystem... |
| 11:21.53 | sabrod | It was very unstable, last time I checked. |
| 11:22.03 | ao2 | I am sorry, I am not getting it. I remember that it is not only verbose with newer kernels. It is verbose just because it pit out _errors_ |
| 11:22.31 | ao2 | so it is indeed bugged from our point of view |
| 11:22.48 | sabrod | Yes, that's what I was saying, it generates a lot of mmc errors. |
| 11:22.59 | sabrod | 110 ? |
| 11:23.14 | sabrod | Well, some differents errors. |
| 11:23.36 | ao2 | ok |
| 11:23.58 | sabrod | But a big list, so it was easy for me to check what driver was the best! :) |
| 11:24.46 | sabrod | The new driver is a from blakfin I think. |
| 11:24.50 | sabrod | http://www.chineselinuxuniversity.net/patches/77339.shtml |
| 11:25.48 | sabrod | I tested it before the merge, but maybe I wasn't using the good kernel. |
| 11:26.13 | sabrod | (didn't worked, even this one without the rest of the new addons) |
| 11:30.35 | ao2 | and is this one merged now? |
| 11:30.58 | sabrod | Well, with some changes, I think yes. |
| 11:31.24 | ao2 | let's try it out |
| 11:31.26 | sabrod | I tried it against 2.6.29 |
| 12:18.44 | mickeyl | ao2: can you summarize the status of a910? i.e. what does not work yet? |
| 13:06.55 | ao2 | mickeyl, mmc_spi is the only blocker I think |
| 13:08.15 | ao2 | sabrod, still errors with the latest code. the last patch you posted has not been committed as it was, the spi bus sharing stuff was left out. |
| 13:10.38 | ao2 | mickeyl, the other parts are more or less like other gen2 phones |
| 13:10.49 | sabrod | ao2, oh, then it's maybe working with our tree ! :) |
| 13:11.28 | ao2 | sabrod, what? |
| 13:11.51 | sabrod | actually, with the sharing stuff uncommited. |
| 13:12.23 | ao2 | let's see if I can extrapolate the bus sharing stuff from this one http://www.chineselinuxuniversity.net/patches/77339.shtml |
| 13:12.44 | sabrod | That chinese patch... I didn't noticed that part was left. |
| 13:13.08 | sabrod | (A part hasn't been commited) |
| 13:13.16 | mickeyl | ao2: GSM and gen_blob works already? did you have a look at suspend/resume on this platform? |
| 13:13.41 | sabrod | Heh. |
| 13:14.24 | ao2 | mickeyl, gen-blob works and as long as we can load a rootfs (I will try with NFS) GSM should works as well. No tests on suspend/resume has been made that I know of |
| 13:15.02 | mickeyl | ao2: ok, so we can't boot from SD, but from NFS |
| 13:15.07 | sabrod | mickey genblob can boot a kernel on flash, or usb only, for now. (not working with mmc) |
| 13:15.16 | mickeyl | i see |
| 13:15.25 | mickeyl | ok, that's no problem for developing |
| 13:15.30 | mickeyl | but a practical problem for using ;) |
| 13:16.36 | sabrod | Well... it depends on the user, but I think yes! :) |
| 13:16.39 | ao2 | once we fix mmc_spi we could put only the openezx kernel on flash and live happy with rootf on SD |
| 13:16.47 | mickeyl | right |
| 13:16.54 | mickeyl | mmc_spi is hard? |
| 13:17.10 | mickeyl | i'd love to have a keypad-only device, since we need to restructure input for that completely :) |
| 13:17.17 | ao2 | right now I'd say yes, it is hard for me |
| 13:18.43 | ao2 | mickeyl, well I thought non-ts devices would make difference from an UI point of view only |
| 13:19.20 | ao2 | aren't they a subset of a ts device for the middleware? |
| 13:19.36 | mickeyl | ao2: yes, i'm talking about UI here |
| 13:19.42 | mickeyl | middleware will not make a difference |
| 13:19.44 | ao2 | ah, sorry |
| 13:20.01 | mickeyl | but i'm thinking about writing a new telephony app once the critical bits work on EZX |
| 13:20.16 | mickeyl | something lightweight tailored for these kinds of phones |
| 13:20.25 | mickeyl | so finally i can use my own middleware ;) |
| 13:20.37 | mickeyl | doing some UI again, which i enjoyed years ago |
| 13:21.11 | mickeyl | actually i did lots of UI back in the days of Opie |
| 13:21.21 | mickeyl | want to come back to that |
| 13:23.08 | sabrod | If you asks me, I love apple newton one... (that assist button). |
| 13:23.15 | sabrod | :) |
| 13:23.40 | mickeyl | apple's newton UI was years ahead, no dougt |
| 13:23.42 | mickeyl | doubt |
| 13:23.47 | mickeyl | palm OS was as well |
| 13:24.00 | mickeyl | we lost some of those highly integrated interaction metaphors on the way |
| 13:24.07 | mickeyl | need to revisit and reconsider |
| 13:25.00 | sabrod | Hehe, yes, they even didn't communicate, or barelly... |
| 13:25.05 | sabrod | :) |
| 13:27.18 | sabrod | Iirc, the embedded sms were advertised after both palm pilot or newton and that maybe wasn't designed for that. |
| 13:29.19 | sabrod | Hehe! You was at UI development, maybe because of palm or newton's advance? |
| 13:29.50 | sabrod | And fall down... |
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| 13:56.26 | Aplnx | hello! |
| 13:56.58 | sabrod | Hi Aplnx |
| 13:58.46 | Aplnx | hello sabrod ! |
| 13:58.50 | Aplnx | How r u? |
| 13:59.32 | sabrod | Fine, thanks. |
| 14:02.25 | Aplnx | well, I trying to use usblan... Have you ever used this? |
| 14:02.59 | sabrod | Sure. |
| 14:06.01 | sabrod | The first part of http://wiki.openezx.org/Rootfs_on_NFS could help you. |
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| 14:39.57 | Aplnx | thanks |
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| 17:46.56 | Aplnx | Hello! |
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| 21:59.45 | Aplnx | Hello people! |
| 22:00.00 | sabrod | Re! |
| 22:00.06 | Aplnx | WyrM: Hello!! |
| 22:00.11 | Aplnx | sabrod: Hello! |
| 22:00.42 | Aplnx | sabrod: well... I gave up of my usblan... |
| 22:01.07 | Aplnx | I guess that the problem is my kernel... My PC kernel is 2.6.28... |
| 22:01.16 | sabrod | Ah, you didn't managed to do the stuffs, well. |
| 22:01.43 | sabrod | It's not that hard... |
| 22:02.09 | sabrod | Any event arrive if you unplug/plug the phone? |
| 22:02.13 | Aplnx | Yes, this is not hard... But, I can´t find the problem... This sounds very strange... |
| 22:02.55 | Aplnx | well.. I check dmesg and see CDC system loaded... |
| 22:03.14 | sabrod | What tell lsmod and lsusb when the phone is plugged? |
| 22:03.56 | sabrod | dmesg should also write some error messages, if any... |
| 22:04.43 | sabrod | Does the phone is using Openezx ? |
| 22:04.48 | Aplnx | ok, I will repeat all steps... wait while I back... I´m in windows now... |
| 22:04.54 | Aplnx | I will go to linux... |
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| 22:07.52 | Aplnx | sabrod: Hello, I'm back... |
| 22:08.10 | sabrod | Hey! :) |
| 22:08.48 | Aplnx | ok.. let's start... What you want to know before we start? |
| 22:08.54 | sabrod | You try that with OpenEZX, or the motorrola system, I didn't got it? |
| 22:09.27 | Aplnx | well, I used motorola usbnet onto windows and it works... |
| 22:09.59 | Aplnx | I installed beard sucessfuly... |
| 22:10.04 | sabrod | Ok, this is a different method. |
| 22:10.23 | Aplnx | but, I can't do nothing in linux... |
| 22:10.25 | Aplnx | :( |
| 22:10.39 | Aplnx | I don't know what is wrong. |
| 22:11.20 | sabrod | beard? |
| 22:11.42 | Aplnx | yes... bear daemon... |
| 22:12.03 | Aplnx | this server enable the ssh access client from windows... |
| 22:12.13 | sabrod | Ok, good! |
| 22:13.10 | Aplnx | On the other hand, I installed the Angstrom to mmc card and I using ready binary of WyrM ... |
| 22:13.14 | sabrod | You nead dropbear to be installed on the phone too. |
| 22:13.28 | sabrod | ( on motorola OS, there is no ssh) |
| 22:14.17 | Aplnx | sorry, I commit a mistake... I have been installed dropbear on my phone... |
| 22:14.32 | Aplnx | beard -> dropbear.... |
| 22:15.22 | Aplnx | but, the main problem is that I can't ping too... This step should be work before try access using ssh client... |
| 22:16.00 | sabrod | http://www.motorolafans.com/forums/a910-general-chat/24004-networking-ssh-terminal-phone.html |
| 22:16.00 | sabrod | ^ this is an ugly tuto I wrote for installing ssh on a phone, you need to find the bragon's binary for your phone, but should work.. |
| 22:17.21 | sabrod | I'd use nmap to scan the port 22. |
| 22:17.33 | sabrod | Install it on the PC |
| 22:18.00 | Aplnx | You use your linux to conect to phone? |
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| 22:19.09 | sabrod | Heh, why no? |
| 22:19.10 | sabrod | :) |
| 22:19.34 | Aplnx | :( ... What kernel version are you using? |
| 22:20.23 | Aplnx | I think the problem is in my kernel configuration... |
| 22:20.28 | sabrod | Wyrm's kernel are sometimes good... :) It should work on most distros, for the host side... |
| 22:20.57 | sabrod | Maybe, on ubuntu I need to "modprobe zaurus" sometimes... |
| 22:21.02 | ao2 | hi |
| 22:21.09 | Aplnx | yes, but I think the kernel with problem is that of my PC! |
| 22:21.15 | sabrod | modprobe usbnet is also needed sometimes. |
| 22:21.25 | Aplnx | look... this happens when I connect my mobile... lsmod |
| 22:21.26 | Aplnx | cdc_subset 11264 0 |
| 22:21.27 | Aplnx | zaurus 11648 0 |
| 22:21.47 | sabrod | No usbnet? |
| 22:21.52 | sabrod | :( |
| 22:21.56 | Aplnx | no... |
| 22:22.12 | Aplnx | but lsmod detect the cdc_subset and zaurus... |
| 22:22.27 | sabrod | Well, look at http://wiki.openezx.org/Get_a_shell |
| 22:22.44 | Aplnx | ok.. |
| 22:22.54 | sabrod | There is a lot of tips for setting up a connection. |
| 22:23.20 | ao2 | Aplnx, do you have the usbnet module at all on your system, does usb0 show up? |
| 22:23.20 | sabrod | Normally just issue: |
| 22:23.22 | sabrod | echo "AT+mode=13" > /dev/ttyACM0 |
| 22:23.27 | sabrod | (on E6) |
| 22:24.08 | Aplnx | yes... |
| 22:24.15 | sabrod | I was talking about motorola's system. Openezx is easier :) . |
| 22:24.42 | Aplnx | I have openezx load on mobile now. |
| 22:25.02 | sabrod | Aj , so forgot that command. |
| 22:25.22 | sabrod | Still nothing on lsusb? |
| 22:26.06 | sabrod | ao2, yes, it seems, and Aplnx could even ping his phone once... |
| 22:26.15 | Aplnx | look... lsusb write: |
| 22:26.16 | Aplnx | Bus 006 Device 003: ID 049f:505a Compaq Computer Corp. Linux-USB "CDC Subset" Device, or Itsy (experimental) |
| 22:26.36 | Aplnx | and lsmod: Module Size Used by |
| 22:26.37 | Aplnx | cdc_subset 11264 0 |
| 22:26.37 | Aplnx | zaurus 11648 0 |
| 22:27.02 | sabrod | Oh... unplug/plug please and redo the lsusb... |
| 22:27.10 | Aplnx | so, I configured the ifconfig as: #ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.0 |
| 22:27.31 | Aplnx | and yelds: |
| 22:27.33 | Aplnx | usb0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr be:4f:22:d2:7e:f1 |
| 22:27.33 | Aplnx | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:27.44 | ao2 | Aplnx, add the 'up' command to the end of that ifconfig line |
| 22:28.43 | Aplnx | yes... I put ifconfig usb0 up... |
| 22:28.45 | sabrod | No, there is any usb0 interface...and not usbnet module ... weird! Should be compiled in kernel :p |
| 22:28.50 | Aplnx | now I will try ping... |
| 22:29.25 | Aplnx | failed... :( network is unreachable... |
| 22:30.02 | Aplnx | sabrod: What kernel is yours? |
| 22:30.39 | sabrod | Suse 2.6.25.20-0.1-pae |
| 22:31.14 | Aplnx | Can you help me check my kernel? |
| 22:32.14 | sabrod | Well issue uname -a and you have checked it :) |
| 22:33.42 | Aplnx | the modules of choice is on Network support? |
| 22:35.03 | Aplnx | no... First in device drivers |
| 22:35.26 | Aplnx | after, Network device drivers... |
| 22:35.30 | sabrod | Well, yes, you can look maybe the config with: "cat /proc/config.gz | gunzip >kernel-build-config" |
| 22:36.24 | sabrod | Could be USB>gadget>usbnet |
| 22:36.28 | sabrod | Or so. |
| 22:36.33 | Aplnx | ok |
| 22:37.25 | sabrod | CONFIG_USB_USBNET but well, you said to ao2 that you had that file... |
| 22:38.33 | ao2 | Aplnx, could you send also the output of the 'route' command after you connect the phone and configure usb0 ? |
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| 22:41.52 | Aplnx | owoo... |
| 22:42.00 | Aplnx | My house power down!! |
| 22:42.16 | Aplnx | sabrod: Where we stoped? |
| 22:42.51 | sabrod | :) |
| 22:43.11 | sabrod | (11:36:24 PM) ao2: Aplnx, could you send also the output of the 'route' command after you connect the phone and configure usb0 ? |
| 22:44.06 | Aplnx | yes... wit |
| 22:44.08 | Aplnx | wait |
| 22:44.30 | Aplnx | Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface |
| 22:44.30 | Aplnx | 192.168.1.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 wlan0 |
| 22:44.31 | Aplnx | 192.168.0.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 usb0 |
| 22:44.31 | Aplnx | loopback * 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo |
| 22:45.28 | sabrod | Aplnx: you forgot #ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.0 didn't you ? |
| 22:45.51 | Aplnx | no, I did it... |
| 22:45.59 | sabrod | and up? |
| 22:46.11 | Aplnx | and ifconfig usb0 up |
| 22:47.54 | sabrod | ifconfig isn't working, you have network manager or similar stuff installed? |
| 22:48.25 | Aplnx | well.. i don't have... |
| 22:48.30 | sabrod | try disabling automatic stuffs on usb0, if possible. |
| 22:48.44 | Aplnx | I use slackware... so, all network process I aways use ifconfig... |
| 22:48.48 | Aplnx | and route command. |
| 22:49.39 | sabrod | Huh, then I don't understand why ifconfig didn't worked... |
| 22:50.06 | Aplnx | yes... this is driving me nuts!!! |
| 22:51.04 | Aplnx | I need to get a new kernel?? |
| 22:52.06 | sabrod | Oh, I'm tired, sorry, ifconfig works ... |
| 22:52.16 | sabrod | the same here |
| 22:57.07 | Aplnx | ok... I will continue try... thnks for your help... |
| 22:57.26 | sabrod | Well, good night, no probs... :( |
| 22:57.32 | Aplnx | When I get solution I back... |
| 22:57.46 | Aplnx | good night!! |
| 22:57.59 | sabrod | thanks, yes that could be interesting. |
| 23:01.24 | ao2 | Aplnx, can you post the last lines of dmesg after you connect the phone in usblan mode? |
| 23:02.08 | ao2 | there should be something like usb0: register 'cdc_subset' at usb-0000:00:10.3-2, Linux Device, xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx |
| 23:05.14 | ao2 | in my config I also have "ip route add 192.168.0.202/32 dev usb0" because my eth0 is also on 192.168.0.0/24 but it shouln't be needed in you case |
| 23:07.24 | ao2 | Aplnx, let us know. Bye all, see you tomorrow. |