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| 09:22.33 | ao2 | good morning |
| 09:41.19 | yang | hi |
| 09:46.55 | Hopscotch | good morning |
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| 10:06.45 | florian | good morning |
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| 12:20.09 | gmzhuo | Hi WyrM |
| 12:22.27 | ao2 | kernel 2.6.29 released. I am updating our tree |
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| 13:34.45 | ao2 | ok, update pushed |
| 13:34.48 | sabrod | A1600 is gpl compliant ! :) |
| 13:35.32 | sabrod | https://opensource.motorola.com/sf/frs/do/viewSummary/projects.a1600/frs |
| 13:46.54 | florian | ah cool |
| 13:47.00 | florian | well.. mostly |
| 13:47.49 | sabrod | :) , yeah, I'd like to know if the sources are usefull or not ... |
| 13:48.06 | sabrod | s/usefull/working/ |
| 13:48.33 | gmzhuo | anyone has a1600? |
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| 13:52.14 | florian | Linux 2.4.20... oh well |
| 13:53.29 | gmzhuo | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:53.42 | gmzhuo | not complete |
| 13:55.45 | gmzhuo | even there has no Makefile in arch/arm |
| 13:57.40 | sabrod | lol, not totally GPL compliant...so. |
| 13:58.33 | ao2 | let's diff it with a kernel for A1200. A1200 is the most similar to a1600, isn't it? |
| 13:58.45 | gmzhuo | should be |
| 13:59.05 | gmzhuo | It's less than a1200 |
| 14:01.20 | ao2 | previous ? |
| 14:06.16 | gmzhuo | what can we say to motorola,lol |
| 14:13.06 | WyrM | a1600 release is a joke. |
| 14:13.15 | WyrM | not even a machine file on the src... |
| 14:13.34 | WyrM | or they moved it out of mach-ezx? |
| 14:14.38 | sabrod | I notice the "wmmx.S include un-fix" ;) |
| 14:15.39 | gmzhuo | joke :) |
| 14:16.40 | gmzhuo | Hey,Wyrm,I can play diffrent audio on loudspeaker and bluetooth same time. |
| 14:16.52 | WyrM | on 2.6? |
| 14:17.02 | gmzhuo | No |
| 14:17.07 | gmzhuo | 2.4 |
| 14:17.23 | gmzhuo | oringinal |
| 14:17.27 | WyrM | yes. |
| 14:17.33 | WyrM | funny :) |
| 14:17.55 | gmzhuo | I even don't know how to connect bluetooth headphone on 2.6 |
| 14:19.56 | WyrM | power_ic driver is out of a1600 kernel release too. |
| 14:20.22 | gmzhuo | even isp1583 |
| 14:21.33 | gmzhuo | so we no longer wait for moto release their source |
| 14:22.08 | WyrM | I think this one is the most useless motorola release ever. |
| 14:22.19 | gmzhuo | :) |
| 14:22.53 | ao2 | well, they took care to strip coders names, as if they were not in other releases |
| 14:23.59 | ao2 | and they assured they use GLPv2 without the option to use a later version |
| 14:27.46 | sabrod | they could have tell us : " 2005-Dec-21 Added macau (E6) support" ... |
| 14:28.09 | sabrod | Always you are complaining gmzhuo... :) |
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| 14:30.01 | WyrM | lol. |
| 14:30.08 | WyrM | not even a LICENSE file on the src. |
| 14:33.46 | gmzhuo | fogot it |
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| 14:34.46 | gDD | is this open source or OPEN? |
| 14:35.10 | gDD | s/?/!/ |
| 14:36.27 | WyrM | https://opensource.motorola.com/sf/discussion/do/listPosts/projects.a1600/discussion.general_comments.topc1892 |
| 14:38.01 | gmzhuo | :) |
| 14:38.43 | gDD | maybe because EZX platform developed by Motorola Beijing |
| 14:39.28 | gDD | and as the commonly thing: Chinese company doesn't like Open Source |
| 14:39.46 | WyrM | gDD: they love open source. |
| 14:39.54 | WyrM | otherwise they would not use it :) |
| 14:40.39 | sabrod | They just need to get used with the release stuff :) |
| 14:40.56 | gmzhuo | gDD,you know moto is not chinese company |
| 14:41.17 | gDD | gmzhuo, But moto beijing is Chinese company |
| 14:41.28 | sabrod | Wyrm: good message! :P |
| 14:41.35 | gDD | or sub company |
| 14:42.02 | gmzhuo | no,copy right is belong to moto |
| 14:42.16 | gmzhuo | so the release right is by moto |
| 14:43.02 | gmzhuo | many company develop close soure and send to USA,then released as opensource |
| 14:43.44 | gDD | yes, GPL stuff must released, but why they can don't release SDK |
| 14:43.51 | sabrod | Yes, it's the big disorder, this maybe also a factor to explain the state of these "releases"? |
| 14:44.25 | gDD | -why |
| 14:44.30 | gDD | typo |
| 14:44.55 | sabrod | I think moto-beijing maybe deliver the binaries, then, after some times passed, they are asked to deliver the sources... |
| 14:46.43 | tmzt | do the magx device kernels even have machine files? it look more like they just patch a common bdk which shares it's name with a dev board |
| 14:46.47 | sabrod | moto-usa probably, even if it's the boss cannot obtain much more than these trees. |
| 14:47.00 | gmzhuo | I failed to create an account on opensource.motorola.com |
| 14:47.14 | tmzt | bsp I mean |
| 14:47.15 | sabrod | I had to retry 3 times :) |
| 14:47.57 | tmzt | I think serious support will need to come from the upstream mcx support |
| 14:48.00 | sabrod | gmzhuo: you have to say, "I want to participate in other OSS project" |
| 14:48.04 | tmzt | mxc |
| 14:49.52 | gmzhuo | sabrod,where? |
| 14:50.24 | sabrod | In the "create an account" formular. (they reply in 24/48 hours...) |
| 14:51.06 | gmzhuo | let me wait then |
| 14:51.10 | sabrod | You try to logon with random password, then appear a "create an account" button :) |
| 14:52.11 | gDD | the close source registration method. |
| 14:53.12 | gmzhuo | where can I get sample code to connect bluetooth headphone? |
| 14:53.51 | gmzhuo | more simple more good |
| 14:54.01 | sabrod | Yes, I got refused once because I didn't specify the "I want to participate on OSS project..." :( |
| 14:54.01 | sabrod | The worst is that I'm quite sure I did check this option... |
| 14:54.25 | sabrod | The second time passed. |
| 14:59.07 | gDD | byeAll:) |
| 14:59.21 | sabrod | Bye |
| 14:59.41 | sabrod | Hey, qtopia's sdhc 2.4 kernel works well! |
| 14:59.58 | sabrod | :) I use it for 2 days on my A1200 . |
| 15:01.13 | tmzt | qtopia's? |
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| 15:14.37 | gmzhuo-- | ps |
| 15:14.48 | gmzhuo-- | sorry |
| 15:19.38 | sabrod | tmzt: A russian fw, based on 2.4 and using qtopia on an angstrom rootfs, yes. (qtopia-ezx) |
| 15:20.51 | sabrod | And I think sdhc works because my files are readable and the fw is quite stable. |
| 15:22.51 | sabrod | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:23.17 | tmzt | yeah, I just wondered what qtopia had to do with the kernel |
| 15:23.34 | tmzt | do you think this was built from moto sf source? |
| 15:24.11 | sabrod | Heh, no, it's just the newest kernel patched by the guys, that I flashed.. :) |
| 15:24.39 | sabrod | Yes, it was, but only the patch and the mtd-map should differ. |
| 15:25.05 | sabrod | the sdhc patch... well maybe some mods, too , I don't know ! |
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| 19:18.46 | ao2 | WyrM, I am CC ing you in this discussion: http://groups.google.com/group/opkg-devel/browse_thread/thread/410b589298a9413f it might be a kernel issue |
| 19:31.11 | WyrM | ao2: just a blind guess... |
| 19:31.20 | WyrM | fork is failing with ENOMEM :) |
| 19:31.20 | ao2 | sparsemem ? |
| 19:32.31 | ao2 | in fact, but there should be some more memory 16MiB approx, which is about the "hole", so I think there is some issue with sparsemem here |
| 19:32.49 | WyrM | not really :) |
| 19:33.10 | WyrM | you would get a freeze or a panic if it was a kernel issue. |
| 19:34.26 | ao2 | right, dmesg shows the panic |
| 19:34.37 | ao2 | I will paste it |
| 19:34.41 | WyrM | thanks! :) |
| 19:39.11 | ao2 | mmh, the panic I was seeing is when I issue "cat /proc/pagetypeinfo" which sounds related anyway |
| 19:39.45 | ao2 | but I haven't even read it yet :) |
| 19:43.04 | WyrM | ao2: can you set a breakpoint at the fork() which fails, and look at how much memory opkg is eating at this moment? |
| 19:43.44 | ao2 | I will try later |
| 19:43.52 | WyrM | ok, thanks! :) |
| 19:47.25 | ao2 | anyhow, this is the OOPS: http://pastebin.com/me837328 |
| 19:50.01 | ao2 | I remember a recent discussion on lak which mentioned "cat /proc/pagetypeinfo" it is "Sparsemem on ep93xx", but it may be unrelated to the opkg issue |
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| 19:57.29 | WyrM | ao2: the cat /proc/pagetypeinfo is indeed a kernel bug. |
| 19:58.20 | WyrM | its fixed already, but as it seems it still not on our tree. |
| 20:30.59 | WyrM | ao2: same proccess may not use the 2 memory banks at once. |
| 20:31.24 | WyrM | or something fishy is going on. |
| 20:33.27 | WyrM | ao2: http://pastebin.com/m72f6989f |
| 20:33.57 | WyrM | sparsemem works, but I can only use all the memory by invoking eatmem twice. |
| 20:34.19 | WyrM | malloc on the first invocation fails before the second bank is used. |
| 20:34.43 | WyrM | this may explain why the fork() is failing even with free memory. |
| 20:39.55 | WyrM | with a small malloc size, it fires the oom-killer :) |
| 20:39.59 | WyrM | funny. |
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| 21:21.23 | ao2 | WyrM1, does it fire oom-killer when filling 48MiB or only 32 ? |
| 21:23.27 | WyrM1 | 32mb too. |
| 21:23.43 | WyrM | its definitelly a kernel bug. |
| 21:24.21 | WyrM | malloc fails even with a lot of free memory, this shouldn't happen, afaik the same proccess should be able to use mem on both banks. |
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| 21:49.12 | CIA-15 | OpenEZX: 03ao2 * r2451 10/trunk/src/host/boot_usb/boot_usb.c: |
| 21:49.12 | CIA-15 | OpenEZX: * Change kern_addr for gen1 phones, so we don't overwrite gen-blob when it is |
| 21:49.13 | CIA-15 | OpenEZX: sent via usb beforehand. |
| 21:49.13 | CIA-15 | OpenEZX: * Initialize all memory allocated for asm_code |
| 21:49.13 | CIA-15 | OpenEZX: * Use the named constant for CHUNK_SIZE |
| 21:51.14 | ao2 | WyrM, can you check the first change here ^ is correct? boot_usb-ing a kernel from a gen-blob sent via USB didn't work before it. |
| 21:57.01 | ao2 | maybe the description is wrong, I should have said: send gen-blob (when phone is gen1) to an address we don't overwrite later (when phone is gen-blob) |
| 22:28.11 | WyrM | ao2: good catch! :) |
| 22:28.23 | WyrM | on gen1 any address is ok. |
| 22:31.58 | ao2 | I am still missing something, should't any address be ok also on gen2? Aren't we doing an explicint JUMP anyway? |
| 22:33.30 | WyrM | no. |
| 22:33.36 | WyrM | MBM checks the addresses. |
| 22:33.48 | WyrM | it needs to be one of the ram addresses on the KCT table. |
| 22:36.02 | ao2 | ah, ok, is it the ADDR command which is checked or the JUMP? not that it makes any difference from boot_usb point of view, just curious |
| 22:37.12 | WyrM | I don't remember. |
| 22:37.27 | WyrM | you can use the write command to try :) |
| 22:37.51 | WyrM | opa. |
| 22:37.54 | WyrM | to olhando la agora. |
| 22:39.26 | WyrM | ooops, sorry, wrong window ;) |
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