| 00:01.40 | WyrM | sabrod: is there anything you can't compile on openezx svn/git? |
| 00:02.40 | sabrod | no everything compile smoothly, i'll not learn that to you, Wyrm !!! |
| 00:02.51 | sabrod | that was a joke ;) |
| 00:03.15 | WyrM | :D |
| 00:03.48 | sabrod | (about the newbiest folk in this room :p ) |
| 00:15.22 | mickeyl | g'night |
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| 00:36.15 | sabrod | Wyrm, does the recent Ilya's (muromec?) patch to genblob can boot a 2,6 kernel copied on flash? |
| 00:36.55 | sabrod | (solving , in a kind of workaround the A910's mmc support on Genblob...) |
| 00:53.33 | WyrM | sabrod: I wouldn't try it. |
| 00:54.26 | WyrM | the 2.6 kernel is way too big to be flashed without some reorganization of the flash layout. |
| 00:54.38 | sabrod | Ah... :( , ( because it actually erase gen-blob while it is running ) |
| 00:54.53 | sabrod | Repeating like a machine your words :) |
| 00:55.06 | WyrM | not really. |
| 00:55.10 | sabrod | Oh, 1,5 meg ? |
| 00:55.31 | WyrM | the problem is not ram like I pointed to muromec. |
| 00:55.35 | WyrM | its the flash layout. |
| 00:55.49 | WyrM | motorola reserved 1MB for the kernel on the flash. |
| 00:56.15 | WyrM | if you want to flash a 1.5mb kernel, you will have to resize the kernel partition. |
| 00:56.21 | WyrM | and move other stuff around. |
| 00:56.31 | sabrod | Yes but once the genblob run, it can (maybe) find a kernel on .ezxlocal... |
| 00:56.59 | WyrM | if you implement the file system to it, sure. |
| 00:57.05 | WyrM | ezxlocal is ext2? |
| 00:57.08 | sabrod | Should that both fit on flash and be doable? |
| 00:57.11 | WyrM | I don't remember what it is. |
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| 00:57.37 | WyrM | well, everything is doable. |
| 00:57.39 | WyrM | :) |
| 00:57.41 | sabrod | cramfs, i believe... Ok... :/ |
| 00:57.46 | sabrod | hehe |
| 00:58.00 | WyrM | it depends on wheter you want your original firmware to stay functional. |
| 00:58.23 | WyrM | you can erase your whole flash and use it for OpenEZX + OpenEmbedded rootfs if you want to :) |
| 00:58.42 | sabrod | Definetly! |
| 00:58.58 | WyrM | but im trying to keep the original firmware, so people can switch to openezx whenever they want to. |
| 00:59.29 | WyrM | if we require users to erase the original firmware, they will flash openezx once, say on all forums that it is buggy and restore the original firmware. |
| 00:59.46 | WyrM | this don't attract users nor developers. :) |
| 01:00.02 | sabrod | Ok, that sounds like "impossible for me" so :) |
| 01:00.17 | WyrM | in my POV, this is a flaw on muromec workflow, he wants to replace users FW. |
| 01:00.24 | sabrod | Ahah, good communication, that's the point :) |
| 01:01.01 | sabrod | Well, he told me how to use qtopia on sd, too. |
| 01:01.16 | WyrM | I want to add to users FW, not replace it. I want users to see OpenEZX evolving, while still being able to use the phone as a phone. :) |
| 01:01.28 | sabrod | (I won a little but complete tutorial with files, when i first ask :) ) |
| 01:01.45 | WyrM | hum. |
| 01:02.02 | WyrM | and have you managed to compile the kernel changing the rootfs mount point? |
| 01:02.23 | sabrod | Yeah, but it's untested yet :) |
| 01:02.28 | WyrM | I was never able to compile a 100% functional 2.4 kernel. |
| 01:02.48 | sabrod | But I got it, I beleive i can do it tonight ! |
| 01:03.06 | sabrod | Ah... I retract, so. |
| 01:04.16 | sabrod | Yes, Ilove3d say there is still bug (and he is known to have tested that several times...) |
| 01:05.28 | sabrod | On it's V3 diff patch... But does your 2.4 was using stock rootfs or did you changed some mountpoints too? |
| 01:06.04 | WyrM | I haven't changed anything on 2.4 |
| 01:06.18 | WyrM | I just use the binary that cames flashed to the phone. |
| 01:06.29 | sabrod | I think unionfs very interesting to leave the rootfs intact . |
| 01:06.38 | WyrM | you can use it as module. |
| 01:06.56 | WyrM | but you can't change the cmdline with a module :) |
| 01:07.00 | sabrod | Yeah, I document myself actually for this solution... |
| 01:07.31 | sabrod | rcS.d ?? |
| 01:07.54 | WyrM | and, the 2.4 kernel to be flashed mounting the rootfs on the sd card would also need some other hacks to ignore the cmdline set by mbm, etc.. |
| 01:08.35 | WyrM | heh, of course you can REmount the rootfs on the init scripts. |
| 01:08.36 | sabrod | ao2 made this. I find his patch and it make me understand a lot ... |
| 01:08.41 | WyrM | but this is sooo ugly. |
| 01:09.01 | sabrod | yeah, maybe pivot_root too? |
| 01:09.19 | sabrod | chroot, i dunno, but i'll try :) |
| 01:09.27 | WyrM | anyway, 2.4 is not the way to go. |
| 01:09.30 | WyrM | :) |
| 01:09.39 | sabrod | well I found some good tutos thanks to god :) |
| 01:10.45 | sabrod | hehe, yes, it's awfull to work on something you know at the end it will be illegal to use/share because of some copyrights :( |
| 01:11.13 | sabrod | Just that, forgot, the point to help FOSS is simply much more cool :) |
| 01:11.34 | sabrod | s/help/participate/ |
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| 01:13.23 | WyrM | ahh. |
| 01:13.40 | WyrM | I friend of mine is working on a hardware mod for a1200. |
| 01:13.45 | WyrM | for wifi. :) |
| 01:14.08 | sabrod | WOWOO!!! |
| 01:14.54 | WyrM | with http://www.apmsinc.com/en/htm/main6628.asp |
| 01:18.53 | sabrod | Wow, I cross my fingers for his poor hardware that will go on the oven :( |
| 01:19.00 | sabrod | haha |
| 01:20.01 | WyrM | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:20.35 | sabrod | Please tell him to give up before it's too late ! |
| 01:21.26 | sabrod | Well maybe, but you should ask him to test some MBM work before he decide to solder anything :p |
| 01:21.37 | sabrod | Just in case lol |
| 01:22.12 | WyrM | well, in fact he doesn't even need to open the phone to do this hack. |
| 01:22.36 | WyrM | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:22.46 | sabrod | Go with inspiration , what you want to write on MBM at the moment you are thinking at :) |
| 01:23.11 | sabrod | No prob, that will burn a few minuts after ... hihi |
| 01:24.04 | sabrod | Ah, ok, those pins should be usable/solder-able, fine... |
| 01:25.51 | sabrod | I tought it was usb host or directly on some SMC chips :D |
| 01:46.35 | sabrod | wyrm, I believe some phones have holes on AP rootfs.. l mean between two partitions... Maybe that could be a way to dd an OpenEzx kernel ... |
| 01:47.14 | WyrM | sabrod: yes, I used these holes on blob2. |
| 01:47.25 | WyrM | but I had to resize the rootfs. |
| 01:47.32 | sabrod | Hey. |
| 01:47.38 | sabrod | ah ... |
| 01:50.00 | sabrod | So I'll definetly not be the glorious first modder including genblob.. Damn! :p |
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| 03:33.24 | johanbr | sabrod: were you ever able to boot a kernel from your sd card? |
| 03:44.43 | sabrod | No, only from genblob/bootusb... the good old method. |
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| 08:45.27 | Hopscotch | good morning |
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| 13:55.48 | mickey|ezx | morning |
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| 16:14.43 | WM | hi |
| 16:19.16 | gmzhuo | Hi |
| 16:20.44 | gmzhuo | WM,how about genirq? |
| 16:21.04 | WM | gmzhuo: partially working. |
| 16:21.21 | WM | but i cant mask/unmask irqs from inside the irq handler. |
| 16:21.33 | WM | so, it is not ok, and not works with the touchscreen. |
| 16:21.49 | WM | i think this will need a kthread like twl4030-irq.c |
| 16:22.16 | WM | unfortunatelly i dont have much time to work for openezx during the week :( |
| 16:26.54 | gmzhuo | take a load off :) |
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| 16:55.40 | ao2 | WM, but what are the practical advantages of using genirq? Will we see again pcap irqs as "normal" irqs? |
| 16:56.03 | WM | ao2: sort of. |
| 16:56.15 | WM | ao2: we will use request_irq with it. |
| 16:56.33 | WM | but they will not be normal irqs, because they will still be executed on task context. |
| 16:57.36 | ao2 | so we will still get higher latency in handling them but we can use generic mechanisms to deal with them, right? |
| 17:00.06 | WM | yes, /proc/interrupts, request_irq(), (en|dis)able_irq() will be used again, while keeping everything in task context. |
| 17:00.19 | WM | and this will probably increase the latency a bit more. |
| 17:00.42 | WM | because of mask and ack will use yet another deferred execution. |
| 17:02.21 | ao2 | but was suing genirq a suggestion from the reviewer or a request? |
| 17:02.27 | ao2 | s/suing/using/ |
| 17:03.09 | WM | considering its from David Brownell, its more like a request :/ |
| 17:03.21 | ao2 | I see |
| 17:04.48 | WM | but anyway, there is a working implementation on twl4030-irq.c, and there is no excuse from us for not doing the right thing. |
| 17:05.20 | WM | if i had seen twl4030-irq.c before, i would never create the *_event code for pcap. |
| 17:05.33 | ao2 | anyhow I've written some a color bars test pattern for fbdev, going to see what's wrong with 18bpp, test fb first and if it reveals to be 100% correct I'll give a look at kdrive |
| 17:05.40 | ao2 | s/some// |
| 17:06.41 | ao2 | I have to use an older revision to have some stability on A910 tho |
| 17:06.43 | WM | ao2: good! |
| 17:07.06 | WM | with gpe on 18bpp i get only wrong colors, no alignment problems. |
| 17:07.53 | WM | with fso, there are alignment problems too, thats why i think efl lacks > 16bpp support. |
| 17:09.05 | WM | you can note that just plain X seems to render correctly, the colors look right, and the pointer can be moved to all points on the screen. |
| 17:09.20 | ao2 | I am also going to write a color bar pattern for X, with these basic tests it is easier to get a clue |
| 17:09.45 | tmzt | have you tried changing the visual for efl? does that still work in X? |
| 17:10.02 | tmzt | or, xdpyinfo |
| 17:10.51 | WM | tmzt: no. i did just some observation, not real tests :) |
| 17:13.06 | tmzt | ah, ok, I have 16bit so can't really help there. my kdrive doesn't like 240x320 so I am no using Xorg |
| 17:13.19 | tmzt | but it won't respond to a vt change so I have to be ssh in to do anything |
| 17:13.45 | tmzt | I did get zhone to work but fso won't work, it just says connecting to dbus |
| 17:14.23 | tmzt | (I had run milestone3 on an arm without radio/modem so it should have gotten further than that) |
| 17:14.54 | tmzt | if you have some irq code to test on a branch, I think I can try that if it will help |
| 17:15.09 | tmzt | (sorry, not related to X) |
| 17:19.20 | WM | well, i can push my incomplete genirq code if you guys want to. |
| 17:19.39 | WM | but specifically for motoq, you would have no code to test it properly. |
| 17:20.03 | tmzt | why? you mean because there is no ts? |
| 17:20.12 | WM | as only the TS code needs disabling/enabling a irq on the irq handler code. |
| 17:20.45 | WM | tmzt: yes, adc and rtc works fine. |
| 17:21.22 | tmzt | oh, so your code is building ok on upstream? |
| 17:21.52 | WM | yes, altough i havent tested RTC yet. |
| 17:21.57 | WM | but i dont see a reason for it to not work. |
| 17:22.03 | WM | ADC is tested and is working. |
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| 18:07.06 | BadCluster | Hi ! I'm trying to load the lastest git kernel from a sd card sending gen-blob with the latest boot_usb on an a1200/e2. On both phones the kernel panics ... any idea? The same kernel boots on my a780. |
| 18:17.03 | BadCluster | Code: e24b1034 e5993160 e1a00008 e1a0e00f (e593f010) |
| 18:17.03 | BadCluster | Kernel panic - not syncing: Fatal exeption in interrupt |
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| 19:23.31 | CIA-64 | OpenEZX: 03ao2 * r2365 10/trunk/src/host/boot_usb/ (Makefile.am configure.ac): |
| 19:23.31 | CIA-64 | OpenEZX: * Fix help string format |
| 19:23.31 | CIA-64 | OpenEZX: * Fix indentation |
| 19:23.31 | CIA-64 | OpenEZX: * Add a proper test for the very asm/setup.h we need, and cleanup Makefile.am |
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| 19:48.17 | WM | ao2: can the configure script find the header on older kernels with the latest changes? |
| 19:48.55 | WM | ao2: on .27 and older, the setup.h is on include/asm-arm/setup.h |
| 19:56.35 | sabrod | Hello |
| 19:57.29 | sabrod | the stock setup link outer screen to /dev/fb1 on A910 |
| 19:57.55 | sabrod | :) |
| 20:00.01 | WM | sabrod: sorry, i dont understand what you mean; |
| 20:11.26 | ao2 | WM, on 2.6.27 I can see arch/arm/include/asm/setup.h so it is ok |
| 20:12.09 | ao2 | on even older ones I don't think the current check would work but it can be extended quite easily |
| 20:12.39 | tmzt | WM: is eten m800 on ezx now or it that something else harold is doing? |
| 20:13.13 | ao2 | sabrod, so they exported the external screen as a second framebuffer device, I don't know yet how this works on 2.6 |
| 20:13.45 | WM | ao2: ok. people should upgrade to newer kernels anyway ;) |
| 20:14.01 | WM | tmzt: its GNUFiish, new Harald´s project :) |
| 20:14.32 | tmzt | ok, cr2 is saying they might have a way to do i2c trace with haret so I guess it's wm based |
| 20:15.11 | sabrod | I meant the outer screen is /dev/fb1 , sorry, I tried some technicals language that don't suit me that much ;) |
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| 20:29.17 | CIA-64 | OpenEZX: 03ao2 * r2366 10/trunk/src/host/boot_usb/boot_usb.c: * More detailed usage information, shown even with no detected usb device. |
| 20:30.12 | ao2 | "even" or "also", what's better here? |
| 20:31.08 | tmzt | show even when no usb device is detected |
| 20:36.51 | johanbr | "shown even..." |
| 20:37.55 | ao2 | thanks. It is indeed better to use a direct form I guess. next time :) |
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| 21:08.00 | WM | bbl. |
| 21:08.03 | WM | bye! |
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| 22:17.42 | tmzt | stefan_schmidt: dcordes is working on getting the AT commands for msm now, he has some dumps which we can't decode |
| 22:18.17 | stefan_schmidt | tmzt: Dumps of what? |
| 22:18.35 | tmzt | AT commands, atdbg from windows |
| 22:18.44 | tmzt | are you in htc-linux? |
| 22:18.55 | stefan_schmidt | tmzt: yes, let's move over |
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| 22:32.58 | c_ro87 | hi |
| 22:34.01 | c_ro87 | did anyone know why the c++ compiler say undefined reference to? |
| 22:34.12 | c_ro87 | it is posibly avoid this |
| 22:34.19 | sabrod | c_ro87: hello |
| 22:37.13 | sabrod | mabe it needs an header to be included somewhere?? |
| 22:38.29 | c_ro87 | I hate that... my consolo is complete of that error I can't see anything |
| 22:40.05 | sabrod | hehe... what are yo trying to compile? there are plenty reason for such an error ... |
| 22:40.21 | sabrod | plenty of reasons |
| 22:40.27 | c_ro87 | why was trying to port the E2GameBoyAx to Z6 |
| 22:40.40 | c_ro87 | I am trying to port the E2GameBoyAx to Z6 |
| 22:41.19 | sabrod | Oh, is it good? |
| 22:41.45 | c_ro87 | I don't understand you question... |
| 22:41.59 | tmzt | sdl based? |
| 22:42.23 | sabrod | Is it a fast emulator on others machnes? |
| 22:42.41 | c_ro87 | yes have some things in SDl |
| 22:42.46 | c_ro87 | and that is one problem |
| 22:42.55 | c_ro87 | I didn't know that libraries |
| 22:43.56 | c_ro87 | yes is a fast emulator |
| 22:44.11 | tmzt | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:44.30 | tmzt | you can paste error messages and people can try to see what's going on |
| 22:45.13 | c_ro87 | ok... did any of yours have a z6? |