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| 07:00.08 | Hopscotch | good morning |
| 07:37.33 | lrobot | good good morning |
| 07:37.58 | lrobot | we here a afternoon. :) |
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| 09:21.59 | ade|desk | morning campers |
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| 20:52.49 | florian | re |
| 21:23.09 | ghane | florian: whats "re" |
| 21:25.52 | florian | ghane: "I'm back" |
| 21:26.10 | ghane | florian: oh, i see, what does it stand for? |
| 21:26.35 | ghane | florian: it has puzzled me for quite a while |
| 21:26.49 | ghane | and I cant find any german meaning in it either ;-) |
| 21:27.51 | florian | ghane: "regreetings" iirc |
| 21:27.55 | florian | hrm |
| 21:27.58 | ghane | florian: ah |
| 21:28.09 | florian | outs himself as a German or C developer ;) |
| 21:28.17 | ghane | :-) |
| 21:28.50 | ghane | i really tried to figure out some meaning for it, both in english and german |
| 21:29.20 | ghane | everytime i get home, the only activity here is you joining and type "re" and then nothing more |
| 21:29.23 | ghane | ;-) |
| 21:29.34 | ghane | but now i know |
| 21:29.39 | ghane | thanks for enlighten me |
| 21:29.48 | florian | ghane: yw |
| 21:30.07 | ghane | but I think it is sort of time to sleep now |
| 21:30.16 | ghane | Guten Nacht! |
| 21:30.46 | florian | ghane: good night |
| 21:31.05 | florian | tries another piece of strange software |
| 21:31.15 | ghane | strange software? |
| 21:31.18 | ghane | sounds interesting |
| 21:31.46 | ghane | florian: what are you trying? I havent tested strange software for a long time ;-) |
| 21:35.17 | florian | ghane: Well... it depends on the definition. |
| 21:36.01 | florian | ghane: I usually use common open tools like gcc, OE, Anjuta and similar. |
| 21:36.10 | ghane | florian: ah |
| 21:36.25 | florian | But from time to time I take a look what people offer for developers. |
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| 21:36.33 | ghane | oh |
| 21:36.53 | ghane | you mean like Visual Studio? *lol* |
| 21:37.19 | florian | Similar... e.g. I tried the S60 SDK from Nokia some time ago. But Symbian is really really scary... |
| 21:37.26 | ghane | OUCH |
| 21:37.41 | ghane | Never ever go anywhere near that thing |
| 21:37.51 | ghane | It can hurt you badly |
| 21:38.02 | florian | obviously ;) |
| 21:38.18 | ghane | Once you tell anybody that you actually been close to it, you might actually end up having to work with it against your will |
| 21:38.34 | florian | I'll take a look at the MOTOMAGX SDK now... |
| 21:38.40 | ghane | ah |
| 21:38.49 | ghane | i downloaded it but i was afraid to install it |
| 21:39.07 | ghane | looked at the license agreement and didn't know if it was safe or not |
| 21:39.42 | ghane | and still it only works for the x86-vmware "MotoMAGX" |
| 21:39.56 | florian | We'll see :-) |
| 21:39.59 | ghane | I assume we are better off using the inofficial "SDK" |
| 21:40.24 | ghane | obviously thet one already allows for native qt-apps |
| 21:41.16 | ghane | i've only written some simple framebuffer test apps |
| 21:41.18 | ghane | so far |
| 21:41.49 | ghane | long way for magx until we can use that platform |
| 21:42.23 | ghane | but i find the phones pretty descent, at least hardware wise |
| 21:43.03 | ghane | never used a moto phone, actually consider trying to use my Z6 as a phone |
| 21:56.29 | florian | ghane: I don't think I would use it much. |
| 21:57.53 | florian | The usability of EZX is very limited and the MotoMAGX devices are locked down |
| 22:03.32 | ghane | florian: true, but I still think that the UI is a bit worse than what i'm used to |
| 22:04.09 | ghane | well my SEMC phones are more locked down, but they at least have great working J2ME implementations |
| 22:04.14 | florian | ghane: S60 is better at least... |
| 22:04.38 | ghane | well I really have a hard time using the S60 phones |
| 22:05.11 | ghane | I am considering using my Z6 Motomagx for phone calls... it is no doubt the best sounding handset i've used |
| 22:05.22 | ghane | my SonyEricsson W890 is just crap sound wise |
| 22:05.30 | ghane | cant hear what people are saying |
| 22:06.04 | ghane | almost reminds me of Qtek 2020 |
| 22:06.57 | ghane | software wise the S60 or UIQ is probably to prefer or even Windows Mobile, but they are pretty strange beasts to use for phonecalls i think |
| 22:07.35 | ghane | S60 is probably the best one there, but still has strange UI to me, but not too different from MotoMAGX |
| 22:08.04 | ghane | MAGX could probably have been a potential threat to S60 if they didn't lock the phones from the start |
| 22:08.18 | florian | indeed |
| 22:08.47 | ghane | i mean whats up with opening up the apis later and not support older phones with updates so they can be part of the community |
| 22:09.22 | ghane | there is nothing that prevents the early magx phones to run native linux apps |
| 22:09.45 | ghane | WebUI i can understand, but that could be fixed with firmware upgrade |
| 22:13.45 | ghane | well gotta sleep now |
| 22:13.47 | ghane | work tomorrow |
| 22:13.51 | ghane | talk to you later |
| 22:13.53 | ghane | good nite |
| 22:16.34 | florian | ghane: gn |
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