| 01:03.49 | sabro1 | shonnon: Hey! What about enhancing power management? It's the first problem testers encounter, I think. |
| 01:05.46 | sabro1 | I think that I'll not continue to test openmoko until the heating, the CPU clocking etc, and the PM 'll be finely enhanced... |
| 01:07.13 | sabro1 | U should consider testing/programing the kernel first... |
| 01:09.53 | sabro1 | Cause you could perhaps damage your phone for now (I think) |
| 01:10.49 | sabro1 | My A1200 was seriously heating this morning, when testing openmoko :) |
| 01:12.59 | sabro1 | Anyway I'm a newbie, but it seem to be the way to go to help this project... |
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| 01:17.41 | sabro1 | shonnon if you know something about kernel please go to http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom and then free our phone, please !! |
| 01:17.49 | sabro1 | :) |
| 01:46.59 | shonnon | sabro1: I could work on power management. |
| 01:51.24 | flyhorse | i want to know is some Gadgets for test pxe_fb ? |
| 01:53.28 | flyhorse | *pxa_fb |
| 02:13.25 | sabro1 | shonnon: Yes, feel free ;) if you know what you are doing, IMO the system shall interest more people if someone solve this big problem. |
| 02:14.56 | sabro1 | Anyway I don't know what was heating an IC or the batt, but I could smell the savour of the brick this morning!! |
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| 02:20.18 | sabro1 | I think the heat was coming from here: |
| 02:20.25 | sabro1 | http://img160.imageshack.us/my.php?image=800pxa12002zt7.jpg |
| 02:20.59 | sabro1 | the zone I put the circles : CPU ? |
| 02:22.16 | sabro1 | I'll try to patching another kernel tomorow anyway... |
| 02:23.40 | shonnon | I've never opened my a780, so I don't know what that component is. |
| 02:24.44 | shonnon | My understanding is that putting the BP into low-power mode is one of the things that isn't done yet, so it could be the BP that's overheating. |
| 02:27.56 | sabro1 | oki |
| 02:30.47 | sabro1 | Do you know if the batt can overheat too, with our PM problems? |
| 02:33.05 | sabro1 | I think the heat have been conducted to the batt, cause it was hot (much more than I've ever see) :-) |
| 02:34.26 | shonnon | I don't know, but if the system draws current faster than the battery was designed to handle, it would make sense that it could overheat. |
| 02:35.43 | sabro1 | really... I was curious ;) but I know nothing about electronics... |
| 02:35.56 | sabro1 | :-0 |
| 02:38.59 | flyhorse | is someone has emu (u901)'s spec ? |
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| 02:49.57 | sabro1 | hehe... As I said...NO |
| 02:50.15 | sabro1 | :0 no no http://209.85.129.104/search?q=cache:2Gz6aX90bFYJ:www.abcdocelular.com.br/phpbb/viewtopic.php%3Fmode%3Dattach%26id%3D727+neptune+u901&hl=fr&ct=clnk&cd=1 |
| 02:50.25 | sabro1 | NO ? |
| 02:52.35 | sabro1 | I'M TRYING TO RETRIEVE THE ORIGINAL DOC PDF |
| 02:54.08 | flyhorse | ã |
| 02:55.39 | flyhorse | i want to set emu's pin 30 up |
| 02:57.02 | sabro1 | I got it...but do you think that is what you want? |
| 02:57.07 | flyhorse | how ? |
| 02:57.19 | flyhorse | ye |
| 02:57.27 | sabro1 | registered and all... |
| 02:57.41 | sabro1 | :) cool |
| 02:57.42 | flyhorse | i want charge any time |
| 02:57.53 | sabro1 | ? |
| 02:58.38 | sabro1 | yes I can uplad till my neighbour's wifi is up!! |
| 02:58.42 | flyhorse | Q904_5_EN 30 (Charge Control) |
| 02:58.44 | sabro1 | upload |
| 02:58.54 | sabro1 | OKI |
| 02:59.38 | sabro1 | I thought charge=download... |
| 03:01.38 | flyhorse | no charger for battery |
| 03:03.25 | sabro1 | http://www.megaupload.com/fr/?d=32R2R8P1 |
| 03:04.42 | sabro1 | After my phone overheat a lt this morning, I lost the battery jauge indicator during next boot... |
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| 03:06.28 | sabro1 | It's a a1200 and overheated with wyrm's 2.6.24.1 kernel with openmoko rootfs |
| 03:06.52 | sabro1 | after i rebooted to normal ezx and no jauge!! |
| 03:07.47 | sabro1 | wyrm's libs too.... |
| 03:25.22 | Dominus | Anyone good at reading ppp logs? I'm trying to connect through gprs (E6 hooked up to laptop through USB) but I can't understand why it fails. |
| 03:27.18 | Dominus | http://pastebin.org/29593 |
| 03:29.53 | sabro1 | flyhorse perhaps you'll find the right document there: |
| 03:29.57 | sabro1 | http://www.motorolafans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14258 |
| 03:30.03 | sabro1 | ... |
| 03:36.03 | shonnon | Dominus: at the end of that log, the remote end sent an empty IP config request, which your pppd rejected, telling it to use IP addres 0.0.0.0 (which basically means "you pick one" - see the first set of IPCP messages, where your pppd says "I want address 0.0.0.0 and DNS servers 0.0.0.0" and the remote end says "no, use these addresses"). |
| 03:37.02 | shonnon | The remote end hangs up after your pppd sends the ConfRej (configure reject), so it must not like that answer. |
| 03:37.08 | shonnon | Paste in your ppp config (both /etc/ppp/options and /etc/ppp/peers/hi). |
| 03:37.36 | sabro1 | I think it's the M901 chip that is heating... |
| 03:40.26 | Dominus | http://pastebin.org/29596 there's /etc/ppp/peers/hi |
| 03:40.40 | Dominus | The options file is... some default with lots of comments, but I'll paste it anyway. |
| 03:42.51 | Dominus | Actually, the only things enabled in options are "asyncmap 0", "crtscts", "lock", "modem", "proxyarp", "lcp-echo-interval 30", "lcp-echo-failure 4" |
| 03:45.10 | Dominus | As far as I can see... |
| 03:45.14 | Dominus | sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x2 <addr 77.62.85.98> <ms-dns1 62.133.126.28> <ms-dns3 62.133.126.29>] |
| 03:45.55 | Dominus | It receives ack for that... then requests it again, receives ack for it... requests it again, then the peer says "go away" |
| 03:46.36 | shonnon | Actually, the peer sends an empty IPCP config request, and your pppd rejects it, then the peer says "go away" |
| 03:46.56 | shonnon | I've never seen an empty IPCP request, so I don't know what the correct response should be. |
| 03:48.43 | Dominus | sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 <addr 0.0.0.0> <ms-dns1 0.0.0.0> <ms-dns3 0.0.0.0>] -> that's me sending an empty request, right? I think I read somewhere that that's basically a request for an IPCP config. |
| 03:49.57 | shonnon | That's not actually an empty requests - it's a request for IP address 0.0.0.0 and two DNS servers, both with address 0.0.0.0. |
| 03:50.34 | shonnon | I'm talking about: rcvd [IPCP ConfReq id=0x2] near the end of the log |
| 03:51.28 | Dominus | Yeah, that's weird... the peer sending _me_ a ConfReq. |
| 03:51.30 | shonnon | Your pppd replied: sent [IPCP ConfNak id=0x2 <addr 0.0.0.0>] |
| 03:52.28 | shonnon | No, the peer typically send a confreq - that's how it tells you what IP address it's going to use. |
| 03:54.34 | shonnon | There's no "I'm using this config and you don't have a choice" in the protocol, so i has to "request" its IP address. In some configs the "server" (the machine being dialed into) _does_ accept an IP address from the caller. |
| 03:55.33 | shonnon | So the protocol is symmetric to handle all the different cases - each side requests stuff from the other side, which accepts or rejects with alternative values. |
| 03:57.35 | Dominus | Hm, iffy. |
| 03:57.52 | shonnon | I would expect the peer to send IPCP ConfReq with an IP address, though, and your pppd to ConfAck it. |
| 04:21.28 | Dominus | Not much luck so far... will have to try some other time. Thanks for your insights so far. |
| 04:26.08 | shonnon | You're welcome. I'm not sure what to suggest - the ppp options you have all seem reasonable. |
| 04:39.06 | Dominus | Oh wow, I got it to work. |
| 04:39.17 | Dominus | I found this obscure page: http://lists.debian.org/debian-chinese-gb/2007/08/msg00002.html |
| 04:39.44 | Dominus | And it suggested adding 0.0.0.0:10.0.0.1 to the config. |
| 04:44.26 | shonnon | Ah, so telling the peer what IP address to use. |
| 04:44.49 | shonnon | Does the remote end actually use 10.0.0.1? |
| 04:45.24 | Dominus | Apparently. |
| 04:45.26 | Dominus | local IP address 10.102.148.241 |
| 04:45.26 | Dominus | remote IP address 10.0.0.1 |
| 04:45.26 | Dominus | primary DNS address 62.133.126.28 |
| 04:45.26 | Dominus | secondary DNS address 62.133.126.29 |
| 04:46.34 | shonnon | Interesting. Previously it was telling you to use 77.63.6.107 as your local IP address. |
| 04:46.47 | Dominus | Oh, that's because I switched APNs. |
| 04:46.53 | shonnon | Ah |
| 04:46.54 | Dominus | My network supports 2 profiles. |
| 04:47.02 | Dominus | One is legacy sort of, I guess. |
| 04:47.47 | Dominus | Though... I guess the other profile might even allow inbound connections. |
| 04:48.37 | shonnon | Yeah, unless they have it filtered. |
| 04:49.04 | Dominus | I'm not even supposed to use this with a laptop :D |
| 04:49.14 | Dominus | But as long as I stay within reasonable data limits, I should be ok. |
| 04:50.48 | Dominus | Now.. I could stretch this and try to get it to work over bluetooth. |
| 04:51.33 | Dominus | But.. not today :) |
| 04:51.36 | Dominus | Thanks again for your help. |
| 04:51.45 | Dominus | ..and good night. |
| 04:54.38 | shonnon | Good night |
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| 06:33.50 | flyhorse | e6'sch is so same as a1200 |
| 07:00.12 | Hopscotch | good morning |
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| 09:10.56 | sabro1 | someone know the screen pinout of the EZX's phone? (to reuse with a 68HC11) |
| 09:11.56 | sabro1 | I know it's not the place, but thet are so cheap on ebay... and I'm just curious... |
| 09:12.16 | sabro1 | Congrats for your finding Flyhorse!! |
| 09:27.54 | ao2 | sabro1 we are aware of some leaked hw schematic, but we tend to ignore them. You may have more luck searching on the dark side :) |
| 09:28.34 | sabro1 | hehe ;) |
| 09:29.11 | sabro1 | Yes ,nokia lcd have been hacked as far as I know |
| 09:29.25 | sabro1 | It should be sufficient for me... |
| 09:31.46 | sabro1 | I cannot read the schematic at http://www.motorolafans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14258, it's just pixels :D |
| 09:32.50 | sabro1 | But, hum, I'm gonna open the pdf...I just didn't for now... |
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| 10:44.53 | sabro1 | I retract what I said : quite good ming's manuals in this file: http://www.motorolafans.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=6205&d=1193498265 |
| 10:56.10 | sabro1 | But I think I damaged the M901 chip... :( |
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| 21:18.37 | p3t3r__ | ao2: nice funlight video ;) ..BTW: My A910 is able to surf the internet now (original software, mixup between A910 and A910i firmware) |
| 21:19.02 | ao2 | wow, so you freed wlan |
| 21:19.05 | ao2 | compliments |
| 21:21.55 | flo_lap | sounds scary :) |
| 21:39.15 | p3t3r__ | ao2: wasn't that hard, after i had been trying a long time, learning more and more about this motorola stuff.. |
| 21:39.52 | ao2 | where was the problem? in dns stuff? |
| 21:40.51 | ao2 | well, if you already wrote a post on that on your blog I'll just read it |
| 21:42.56 | p3t3r__ | ao2: didn't write something about that yet |
| 21:46.37 | p3t3r__ | ao2: I'll work on some little improvements on FW the next days (intergrating some stuff like a terminal), and then there will be a blog post. It was a problem I couldn't have solved without A910i's firmware, A910s wlanapp does not connect to no-UMA-networks, and it's inbuild opera is not able to work without a gprs/gsm dialup connection - you can change whatever you like, using these inbuild applications it can't work |
| 21:47.56 | p3t3r__ | ao2: Maybe I could have solved it without A910 firmware, but then that would have been really hard work: A new WLan-Application (or a script) and a new browser... |
| 21:48.19 | ao2 | I see |
| 21:51.51 | p3t3r__ | ao2: what i wrote concerning opera isn't 100% correct, it's the app that's starts opera, but i found no other way to run it without that app, i spend some time on that but couldn't optain a force-option or something like that - i could have compiled "lynx" to surf the internet - but i wanted 'real' webbrowsing as far as it is possible on a 2,2" screen |
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