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17:04.28ao2drWyrM, a very brief summary about news in A910 code: http://lists.openezx.org/pipermail/openezx-devel/2008-February/001826.html
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17:16.46LuitvDao2: the built-in WiFi is SDIO? :|
17:49.01ao2LuitvD, it seems so
17:49.10ao2what's wrong with that?
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18:21.33LuitvDao2: should there be something wrong with that? :P
18:22.46LuitvDao2: it's just that I think it's a strange choice... just as strange as the N95-8GB solution to get 8GB inside the device
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23:15.45LuitvDflyhorse2: stop doing that :|
23:19.47ghane:|
23:20.04ghanehi LuitvD
23:20.13LuitvDhi ghane
23:20.51ghanestill no success with the Z6 :(
23:21.23LuitvDthat's a pity
23:21.41LuitvDI guess it's tied down pretty tightly
23:22.21ghanewell i've not tried that hard yet
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23:22.55ghanejust found the source to the second stage boot/linux loader
23:23.05ghanei totally missed it in the sources
23:23.06ghane:)
23:23.32ghanejust wondering if it helps
23:23.50LuitvDnice
23:23.52ghanehows it going with your e6?
23:24.01LuitvDsame as ever :P
23:24.20LuitvDI'm gonna try to rebuild with recent sources, see what errors I'll get and report :P
23:24.46ghanei'm trying to figure out where the sign-checking is done, since it is said to require some filesystems and kernel signed, but some other file systems are fine without signing (at least thats what the "modders" say)
23:24.52LuitvDbuilding a website for my sister at the same time XD
23:24.54ghanenice
23:24.57ghanehehe
23:25.11ghanei was helping my cousin today, she bought a new laptop
23:25.21ghaneand a nice netgear router
23:25.41ghaneit made me really happy when it said "open source router" on the package
23:25.47LuitvDnetgear is almost always good stuff
23:25.56ghane"Open-source code for Linux® developers and enthusiasts"
23:26.17LuitvDeverything is getting more opensource friendly lately
23:26.38LuitvDeven Elektor magazine published about opensource this month :)
23:26.46ghaneya, i tend to like them, but its so nice to see an actual GPL product with full sources (havent checked it yet, but there was a little notice in the package about GPL and a URL to the source)
23:27.00LuitvD:)
23:27.18LuitvDand a link to the actual GPL license terms right?
23:27.26ghanethink so to
23:27.54ghaneor well, i wonder if the GPL actually was printed on a license paper in the package
23:27.55LuitvDI see those more and more :)
23:28.36LuitvDI hope Android will be under the Apache lisence soon...
23:28.44LuitvDthe current terms suck :P
23:28.57ghanehavent read about the current terms
23:29.11ghanei'm really ashamed that i havent looked into it more
23:29.41LuitvDunder the current terms you can't load the software on any hardware platform other then the emulator for software debugging/testing purposes only
23:29.50LuitvDdon't be... it's Java :P
23:30.15ghaneyes i know, but there is other reasons why i should keep track on it more
23:30.19LuitvDapart from that, they've don a pretty nice job there
23:30.25ghaneits sort of part or my job
23:30.28LuitvDlol
23:30.34LuitvDit's quite a nice product already
23:30.43LuitvDnice integration of services
23:30.57LuitvDand the m3 interface was quite usable, IMHO
23:31.03ghaneyou know we're actually members of the OHA
23:31.07LuitvDa quick and solid interface :)
23:31.15LuitvDOHA?
23:31.23ghaneOpen Handset Alliance
23:31.46ghanehttp://www.openhandsetalliance.com/
23:31.55LuitvDah :
23:32.13LuitvDthen you're right... you should be ashamed :P
23:32.36ghane:)
23:33.47LuitvDlooking at the list of OHA members makes me happy :)
23:34.03ghanehehe
23:34.04LuitvDI see there's just the right companies there :D
23:34.39LuitvDthe only one I don't really understand is eBay :P
23:34.48ghanei was sort of surprised that fic wasnt there
23:35.07LuitvDI wasn't...
23:35.10ghanehehe ebay is there so you can buy new phones from your phone
23:35.23LuitvDOpenMoko has more chance on it's own...
23:35.28ghaneperhaps
23:35.40ghaneoh the evil qualcomm is there too
23:35.54LuitvDevil?
23:36.08LuitvD(qualcomm? :P)
23:36.20ghaneyes
23:36.35ghanein the US
23:36.39LuitvDit's a chip company right?
23:36.42ghanethey have sort of monopoly on networks
23:36.59LuitvDI'm glad TI is there too :)
23:37.01ghanesince they own the CDMA-technology, or some patents or whatever
23:37.14LuitvDand Marvell, as expected
23:37.15ghaneso on the operator/infrastructure side they are a bit evil
23:37.22ghanebut intel? :)
23:37.34LuitvDIntel is more opensource-frienly lately
23:37.42ghaneya i know
23:37.48ghanei bought an intel mobo because of that
23:37.55LuitvDlol
23:38.06ghanebut i wonder what they will come up with for mobile devices since they sold the Xscale to Marvell
23:38.15LuitvDAMD/ATi released an absurd amount of stuff too
23:38.18ghanewell intel mobo with integrated graphics
23:38.36ghanethat was before AMD actually started to release the ATI stuff
23:38.47LuitvDjup
23:38.49ghanenow we can hopefully use ATI graphics again
23:38.58ghanei'm still using ATI Radeon 9200 cards
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23:39.37ghaneflyhorse, you do not succeed with anything :(
23:39.40LuitvDI've always used nVidia inside my desktop computers (3 in total)
23:40.00ghanei swiched to ati after nVidia TNT2
23:40.01LuitvDthough my laptop has an ATi graphics chip
23:40.16ghaneand i have NEVER installed any binary drivers
23:40.20LuitvDand the newest ATi graphics card really performs well for it's price :P
23:40.24ghanei just dont do it
23:40.31LuitvDoh I have :P
23:40.34LuitvDcountless times
23:40.45LuitvDI run binary drivers right now :P
23:40.46ghanei tried installing ATI's once, but no
23:40.58LuitvDand I've always used the nVidia binary drivers
23:41.06ghanei'm putting ATI 9200 cards in my boxes just so I can use open source drivers :)
23:41.07LuitvDwithout any trouble
23:41.20ghanebut i dont care for performance anyway
23:41.29ghanedescent 2D performance is all I need
23:41.39LuitvDfor performance I run Windoze :P
23:41.44ghaneand the 9200 is fast for that
23:41.46ghanelol
23:41.54LuitvD(games, still can't leave them alone)
23:42.06ghanethe only games i play run in dosbox
23:42.15LuitvDsrsly? :|
23:42.33ghanebut hopefully i've rewritten them soon so i can play them on my phone instead
23:42.37ghaneya
23:42.50ghaneI only play once a month, if that often
23:43.16ghaneand when i play its usually 5-10 minutes of Pinball Fantasies
23:43.18ghane:P
23:43.31LuitvDomg, you still have that?
23:43.37ghaneof course
23:43.42ghanebest game ever
23:43.43LuitvDhaven't played it in years
23:43.46LuitvDlost my copy :(
23:43.56ghanei started working on a clone too
23:44.09ghanej2me for phones
23:44.13LuitvD:P
23:44.15ghanebut still hasnt got the physics right
23:44.24LuitvDphysics is hard
23:44.36ghaneso i ported it to C/SDL to make the development a bit easier
23:44.37ghaneya
23:44.40LuitvDpinball fantasies should be opened :P
23:44.59LuitvDopen-sourced
23:45.03LuitvDhow do you call that :P
23:45.09ghanenot much use
23:45.14ghane100% assembler
23:45.24LuitvDtrue :P
23:45.43LuitvDthat's probably why it ran so smoothly
23:46.30ghanedon't know about the amiga version
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23:59.33LuitvDbye
23:59.37ghanenite
23:59.46LuitvD'night

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