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| 00:48.21 | Who_ | anyone around? |
| 01:02.38 | irdakabel | yes. |
| 01:07.02 | Who_ | I'm trying to ssh into an A780 with a mtd enabled kernel (console rootfs) (from here http://www.linuxtogo.org/~goxboxlive/A780/bootloader/) and I am failing |
| 01:07.13 | Who_ | I have loaded the usbnet module |
| 01:07.34 | Who_ | and also cdc-acm and zaurus |
| 01:07.45 | Who_ | I'm on Ubuntu 7.10 |
| 01:08.34 | Who_ | and the command I tried to ssh was ssh 192.168.0.202 as described in goxboxlive's tutorial. I've also tried 192.168.1.2 and a few other likely seeming options |
| 01:09.18 | Who_ | but it just hangs. can anyone point me to the documentation I'm missing? |
| 01:12.59 | Who_ | 192.168.0.202 is not ping-able |
| 01:14.18 | irdakabel | what does it show on the screen? |
| 01:14.25 | irdakabel | does it get into userspace? |
| 01:15.57 | irdakabel | can it mount the rootfs? |
| 01:18.15 | Who_ | yep. gets to Angstrom login prompt. Relevant dmesg when I plug in phone is usb0: register 'cdc_subset' at usb-0000:00:02.1-3, Linux Device, 92:05:aa:4b:45:71) |
| 01:19.50 | Who_ | $ip addr show usb0 |
| 01:19.50 | Who_ | 9: usb0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST> mtu 1500 qdisc noop qlen 1000 |
| 01:19.50 | Who_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:21.39 | irdakabel | ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 up |
| 01:21.59 | irdakabel | then try to ping 192.168.0.202 again. |
| 01:22.19 | irdakabel | auto usb0 |
| 01:22.19 | irdakabel | allow-hotplug usb0 |
| 01:22.25 | irdakabel | iiface usb0 inet static |
| 01:22.25 | irdakabel | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:22.31 | irdakabel | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:22.31 | irdakabel | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:22.46 | irdakabel | thats what i use on /etc/network/interfaces on my desktop |
| 01:24.14 | Who_ | cool. Worked thanks. I was just there in the usbnet documentation :) |
| 01:24.37 | irdakabel | now ssh should work |
| 01:24.38 | Who_ | (using 192.168.0.202, not 200 ;) |
| 01:25.28 | irdakabel | uhm.. really? You meen .202 on both sides? |
| 01:25.31 | Who_ | ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.202 port 22: Connection refused |
| 01:25.59 | irdakabel | do you see a line about dropbear on the screen? |
| 01:26.11 | irdakabel | when the rootfs is read-only, dropbear doesnt starts. |
| 01:27.06 | Who_ | grrr. My bad |
| 01:27.20 | Who_ | it is working now - I was confused by 200s and 202s. |
| 01:27.56 | Who_ | Can you explain why I needed to use .200 but sshd to .202? (I thought the .200 in your original instructions was a typo :S sorry) |
| 01:28.33 | irdakabel | desktop: .200 a780: .202 |
| 01:28.50 | irdakabel | its IP. |
| 01:28.54 | Who_ | makes sense :) |
| 01:29.05 | irdakabel | the a780 is just a host on the internet ;-) |
| 01:29.44 | irdakabel | actually, you just have to setup nat/routing/dns, and the phone can surf the web through your desktop. |
| 01:30.10 | Who_ | yea - I was being wrong about what was going on :) I thought I need to set the ip address of the A780, but I guess that bit is prconfigured in the rootfs? |
| 01:30.59 | irdakabel | yes, in /etc/network/interfaces on a780 (that file exists on both desktop and a780) |
| 01:31.10 | irdakabel | and in the kernel commandline, too. |
| 01:32.11 | Who_ | it's all there for me to see ;) I even unpacked my rootfs to have a look around... |
| 01:34.02 | irdakabel | this howto might be a little bit to much for you. Wait with flashing until you know the phone better. Booting with boot_usb ist safer to start, and apart from the phone-functions, you dont miss anything that way. |
| 01:34.10 | Who_ | I thought I'd add it to the Dual Boot page on the wike - do you know if a 'how to boot an OEZX kernel and ssh in' page already exists? |
| 01:35.25 | Who_ | I have booted with boot_usb a few times to the images to play - but I bought the phone cheaply (broken screen cable, now replaced) so I could mess around in the holidays. I am planning to do the backing up bit tonight and see how confident i feel :) |
| 01:35.54 | Who_ | ...I don't mean screen cable - that is Psion organisers :P it was the keypad/gps flexi that was broken. |
| 01:36.28 | Who_ | thanks for the warning :) |
| 01:37.43 | irdakabel | If you wanna cross-compile yourself: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom and http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/GettingStarted |
| 01:38.04 | irdakabel | (more or less the same) |
| 01:38.26 | Who_ | Do you think the wiki page as it is is slightly sparse deliberately as a 'safety barrier' to prevent people (like me) who are too new from doing damage? |
| 01:39.05 | irdakabel | uhmm... actually the whole wiki. |
| 01:39.17 | Who_ | lol. an unwritten policy? |
| 01:39.31 | irdakabel | no. laziness ;-) |
| 01:39.43 | irdakabel | Documentation needs to be improved. |
| 01:40.06 | Who_ | so if I _were_ to document some of this in an extra friendly way, would that be sensible. Documentation I _can_ do ;) |
| 01:40.26 | Who_ | sorry, missing ? after sensible |
| 01:40.59 | irdakabel | yes, of course. |
| 01:41.21 | irdakabel | what about a getting-started-page? |
| 01:41.46 | Who_ | I'll have a go... |
| 01:41.54 | irdakabel | one that explains how to transfer the rootfs-image to the microfs-card, howto boot-usb and howto setup networking? |
| 01:41.56 | Who_ | Hi, by the way :) I'm Who_ |
| 01:42.04 | irdakabel | hi! |
| 01:42.13 | Who_ | yea, that sounds like a good set of things to start with |
| 01:42.34 | irdakabel | and after that, some hints how to compile. |
| 01:42.59 | irdakabel | cross-compile isnt easy (although it eased alot with openembedded) |
| 01:43.04 | Who_ | there is a good howto that I used by Goboxlive to do all but the networking bit. I'll wikify it and add networking. |
| 01:43.15 | irdakabel | cool. |
| 01:43.59 | irdakabel | already played with ipkg package management? |
| 01:44.09 | Who_ | well, I might need some time before i get to compiling, corss compiling, etc. I don't get (/make?) nearly as much free time as I'd like to do this. As a way to try and do some work I leave my linux PC at home during UNI term... |
| 01:45.46 | irdakabel | iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -s 192.168.0.0/24 -j MASQUERADE |
| 01:45.52 | Who_ | nope - I haven't played with a network connection yet :). I'm new :) |
| 01:46.00 | Who_ | ohh, thanks |
| 01:46.04 | irdakabel | with that line on the desktop, you can setup Nat on the desktop. |
| 01:46.19 | irdakabel | echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward |
| 01:46.43 | irdakabel | default gateway on the phone should already be set to .200 |
| 01:46.59 | irdakabel | now you should be able to ping the world from your phone. |
| 01:47.21 | irdakabel | but you will have to add nameservers to /etc/resolv.conf on the phone. |
| 01:47.33 | Who_ | wow, it's easy when someone tells you how :). Gimmie a moment to try it... |
| 01:47.36 | irdakabel | just copy the entries from the desktop. |
| 01:48.51 | irdakabel | now try to ping some hosts on the Internet from your phone. |
| 01:48.57 | irdakabel | if it works: ipkg update |
| 01:49.20 | irdakabel | ipkg is a similar tool to dpkg/apt-get/aptitude/ |
| 01:49.48 | irdakabel | and then ipkg install joe |
| 01:49.58 | irdakabel | (or whatever your favorite editor is) |
| 01:51.42 | irdakabel | when you start building with openembedded, put a httpd at ...../tmp/deploy/glibc/ipk |
| 01:52.08 | irdakabel | and add its address to /etc/ipkg.d/... on the phone. |
| 01:52.39 | irdakabel | that way you can easily manage your own builds+packages with ipkg. |
| 01:53.10 | irdakabel | bitbake package-index updates the index, otherwise ipkg gets old information. |
| 01:56.09 | Who_ | so would I expect to be able to ping just an ip address (like 64.233.183.104 - google) before setting up /etc/resolv.conf - because I thought i would but can't. I'm copying from the desktop now. |
| 01:57.02 | irdakabel | what does route -n on the phone say? |
| 01:57.19 | irdakabel | (that command gives the complete routing table) |
| 01:58.55 | Who_ | Kernel IP routing table |
| 01:58.55 | Who_ | Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface |
| 01:58.55 | Who_ | 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 usb0 |
| 01:58.55 | Who_ | 0.0.0.0 192.168.0.200 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 usb0 |
| 01:59.32 | Who_ | (btw, is this conversation logged or should i keep my own copy?) |
| 02:00.17 | irdakabel | http://ibot.rikers.org/%23openezx/ |
| 02:00.42 | irdakabel | that routing table is correct. |
| 02:01.19 | irdakabel | on the destop, as root: iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -s 192.168.0.0/24 -j MASQUERADE |
| 02:01.33 | irdakabel | and: echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward |
| 02:01.47 | Who_ | I believed I'd done them :) I'll try again |
| 02:02.06 | irdakabel | eth0 is your "default device"? |
| 02:03.08 | Who_ | oh, not here! |
| 02:03.17 | Who_ | let me try with ra0 |
| 02:04.15 | Who_ | wooo. thanks :) |
| 02:05.03 | Who_ | My brother wants a hand with something - I'll be back shortly. Thanks again. |
| 02:05.07 | irdakabel | k |
| 02:07.59 | irdakabel | and then: echo nameserver 80.254.161.125 > /etc/resolv.conf (replace the ip by the ip of the nameserver of your choice - for example one out of the destop's resolv.conf) |
| 02:08.17 | irdakabel | now: ping www.openezx.org |
| 02:08.26 | irdakabel | dns shoult work now. |
| 02:08.33 | irdakabel | and then: ipkg update |
| 02:08.46 | irdakabel | ipkg install joe |
| 02:08.54 | irdakabel | ipkg install minicom |
| 02:09.10 | irdakabel | ipkg list | grep thispackageIreallyneed |
| 02:25.06 | Who_ | would you agree it makes more sense to do this when i have an OM or GPE rootfs on the flashcard - currently I have a basic kernel one and I planned to overwrite it when i had done the backp and resized the partitions... |
| 02:25.47 | irdakabel | for learning it doesnt make any difference. |
| 02:26.13 | irdakabel | and actually - you can upgrade to gpe/OM with ipkg. |
| 02:26.19 | irdakabel | no need to flash. |
| 02:26.32 | Who_ | indeed :) . In fact, for learning I think it is better just to have a command line. No shortcuts |
| 02:26.39 | irdakabel | how big is your /-partition on the phone? |
| 02:26.55 | Who_ | indeed - and there is a qtopia ipkg available too, I believe...? |
| 02:27.07 | irdakabel | the gui doesn't give any shourtcuts, at least for now. |
| 02:27.12 | Who_ | at the moment, I still have the default configuration. |
| 02:27.40 | irdakabel | qtopia/opie 2.x in openembedded is broken. |
| 02:27.40 | Who_ | or do you mean the rootfs partition on the vard? |
| 02:27.53 | irdakabel | qt4.x - thats relatively new. |
| 02:28.04 | irdakabel | on the card. |
| 02:28.25 | Who_ | so there aren't ipkgs for the 4.x branch (I tried one of goxboxlive's images of it)? |
| 02:28.33 | Who_ | it's about 700mb |
| 02:29.18 | irdakabel | there are already OE-reciepes - so there might be ipkg's already. |
| 02:29.39 | irdakabel | with 700mb you have more than enough free space. |
| 02:30.15 | irdakabel | I have X11+GPE in approx 100Mb. |
| 02:31.41 | irdakabel | http://scap.linuxtogo.org/index.php?page=6 Screenshots of KDE4 running on an OpenMoko. |
| 02:31.50 | Who_ | cool - i have a 256mb transflash I thought I'd keep for using the GPS software on the original motorola firmware, but maybe I'll use the free 300mb on this card and use the 256mb one as another OEZX one - for an alternative config... That ought to work, right? my rootfs is on the second partition of the big card and I have a 300mb fat16 one as the first |
| 02:32.57 | irdakabel | that should work. |
| 02:34.54 | Who_ | that's cool - it's updating now. |
| 02:35.03 | Who_ | and now I have minicom :) |
| 02:35.27 | irdakabel | the a780 has 3 serial ports, i belive. |
| 02:36.01 | irdakabel | one switchable on the usb-port, one somewhere on the board, and one connecting to the bluethoot-chip. |
| 02:36.44 | irdakabel | when I have free time, I would like to connect an AtMega8 to my a780. |
| 02:38.24 | Who_ | won't claim to have known what it was before google helped me, but it looks fun :) |
| 02:39.23 | Who_ | how long have you been involved with oezx? |
| 02:40.17 | irdakabel | about 2 years. But just closely following the patches, not actually developing. |
| 02:40.31 | irdakabel | I'm still a beginner at coding. |
| 03:58.22 | Who_ | Righty, I'm off to bed. There's a start at a wiki page here http://wiki.openezx.org/Getting_Started_A780 |
| 03:59.00 | irdakabel | wow! |
| 03:59.03 | Who_ | thanks very much for you help. I got a backup of my phone's original firmware, I'm gonna wait and see how I feel about the rest of the tutorial :) |
| 03:59.06 | irdakabel | thats really great! |
| 03:59.17 | irdakabel | k |
| 03:59.31 | irdakabel | yust ask if you have any questions. |
| 03:59.39 | Who_ | it is certainly not finished... |
| 04:00.00 | irdakabel | calling works. And now I'm trying to get it work _with_ audio. |
| 04:00.15 | irdakabel | (calling with sound makes more fun, somewhat) |
| 04:01.06 | Who_ | wow! cool. calling with gsmd integration yet? |
| 04:01.36 | irdakabel | no. just plain AT-Commands. |
| 04:01.37 | Who_ | do you call with AT commands? |
| 04:01.41 | Who_ | ahh ;P |
| 04:02.11 | Who_ | righty. bye |
| 04:02.30 | irdakabel | gn8! |
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| 10:16.48 | Hopscotch | good morning |
| 10:22.57 | LuitvD | mornin' Hopscotch |
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| 18:58.34 | medic28yo | can anyone help me? |
| 18:58.54 | LuitvD | medic28yo: depends |
| 18:59.08 | LuitvD | medic28yo: what's wrong? |
| 18:59.15 | medic28yo | i am looking for program for motorola m1225? |
| 18:59.59 | medic28yo | any idea were I can get it? |
| 19:00.17 | LuitvD | hmm, I don't think anybody on this channel knows about that device... |
| 19:01.07 | LuitvD | wow, that was a quick one... no 'thanks' or 'shame' or 'damn' even... |
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