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20:12.24stefan_schmidthi dion_
20:12.47stefan_schmidtDid you ever had a chance to test ezxflash with the new MOTOMAGIX stuff?
20:13.26stefan_schmidtdion_: alphaone FOund out that boot_usb worked partially. So perhaps some stuff of ezxflash will work, too.
20:14.32dion_stefan_schmidt: hi
20:14.54dion_no.. i never tried it, since There are no EZX phones for sale here
20:15.14stefan_schmidtdion_: Oh, no shiny RAZR2 V8?
20:15.20LuitvDwhich phones are 'MOTOMAGIX' ?
20:15.28LuitvDapart from v8?
20:15.36stefan_schmidtLuitvD: ROKR Z6
20:15.45stefan_schmidtLuitvD: I think only these two atm
20:16.01dion_yep.. however motorola start saling A1200 here... so maybe later
20:16.05LuitvDwhat's the Q9m based on?
20:16.21stefan_schmidtdion_: hmm, perhaps you can share some knowledge with alphaone then. He has the phone and should be able to test some stuff.
20:16.32dion_ok
20:16.45stefan_schmidtdion_: They start selling it? It's a two years old phone.:)
20:17.04dion_yes.. just start a few monthes ago..and price is something around $450-500
20:17.31stefan_schmidtdion_: hmm, nearly the same as in brazil
20:17.43stefan_schmidtdion_: Still in Taiwan it only costs 180 Eur :)
20:18.00dion_cheap :)
20:18.09dion_i'm still using my e680i
20:20.03dion_the most difficult job for ezxflash is to correctly parse and unpack firmware. flashing procedure should be same
20:20.59stefan_schmidtdion_: Not sure about this. They use signing now as it seems.
20:21.35stefan_schmidtdion_: BUt not for all CGs as it seems
20:21.52stefan_schmidtalphaone: ping
20:22.01dion_not only bootloader but also codegroups?
20:22.12stefan_schmidtdion_: yeah
20:22.23alphaoneREad backlog, just came back, give me a sec
20:22.29stefan_schmidtdion_: It sucks :(
20:22.36stefan_schmidtalphaone: take your time
20:22.49alphaonedion_: Yeah, certain things like bootloader, kernel, rootfs are signed
20:22.53stefan_schmidtalphaone: Hope you have enough blood left for working. :)
20:23.00alphaonea few filesystems aren't
20:23.14alphaonestefan_schmidt: They only took 1/2l
20:23.23dion_hmm...
20:23.29stefan_schmidtalphaone: ah, that's nothing
20:24.15alphaonedion_: When boot_usb'ing the phone would always say: "Critical Error: DEA1"
20:24.51alphaonedion_: But I'm pretty sure, that we need to adjust the protocol, too
20:25.27dion_the most easy way to check it is to flash it using PST or some other windows app with installed usb sniffer
20:26.07alphaonedion_: Is there a way to do that via wine or qemu?
20:26.36dion_maybe qemu. or virtualbox (commercial)
20:26.57dion_I don't know about qemu usb support..
20:27.17alphaonedion_: I think they added functionality there
20:27.30alphaoneRead something like that some time ago
20:27.59dion_hmm. yes. there is -usb  and -usbdevice parameters.. so maybe it will work
20:28.45alphaonedion_: And then have usbmon in the kernel?
20:29.13dion_I usually use VirtualBox + usb sniffer for windows
20:30.55dion_alphaone: as far as I understand this phone use single CPU for both GSM and GUI?
20:32.00alphaonedion_: Yeah
20:32.23dion_maybe that's why motorola sign parts of firmware...
20:32.24stefan_schmidtdion_: AFAIK it is a dual core. One BP, one AP
20:32.54dion_SMP phone :)
20:33.02stefan_schmidtdion_: Could be, but then they should have done the job right. People already have telnet root access. :)
20:33.32stefan_schmidtdion_: Yeah, such SoCs getting pretty common these days. Less power usage, smaller PCB size...
20:34.27alphaonestefan_schmidt: Ah wait, you're right I think
20:35.05stefan_schmidtalphaone: I hope I'm almost right, but in what particular you mean right now? ;)
20:35.28alphaonebecause the kernel doesn't really have much of a GSM stack hidden in there
20:35.49alphaonesyntax error at token "almost"
20:38.36LuitvDonly 180 for a A1200?
20:39.08alphaoneLuitvD: Depends if you want to get it in black or don't care about style :-)
20:39.29LuitvDmy ROKR E6 was 230 euro
20:39.52stefan_schmidtLuitvD: That's what alphaone paid for his white one. I had to pay 210 for the black one. Stylish guy you knoe. ;)
20:39.54LuitvDincluding shipping
20:40.37LuitvDstefan_schmidt: I'd rather have this E6 then an A1200
20:40.50LuitvDstefan_schmidt: even though Moto didn't release the sources yet...
20:41.16stefan_schmidtLuitvD: For E6? They did
20:41.29LuitvDstefan_schmidt: kernel sources? when?
20:42.08alphaoneLuitvD: it's on opensource.motorola.com
20:42.13stefan_schmidtLuitvD: Check opensource.motorola.com
20:42.24stefan_schmidtLuitvD: The tar.gz is called hardhat nowadays
20:42.50alphaoneLuitvD: But the E6 also uses crypto
20:42.52LuitvDdidn't check opensource.motorola.com for months
20:42.59LuitvDcrypto?
20:43.08stefan_schmidtalphaone: err, no
20:43.12stefan_schmidtalphaone: Z6
20:43.16alphaoneAh
20:43.18LuitvD:P
20:43.20LuitvDlol
20:43.22stefan_schmidtalphaone: E6 is the one from Harald
20:43.33alphaoneOne letter can make a whole lot of difference :-)
20:43.41LuitvDstefan_schmidt: it's a src.rpm, not tar.gz
20:43.42stefan_schmidtalphaone: indeed
20:43.53stefan_schmidtLuitvD: Whatever, itS source. :)
20:44.03LuitvD(grrrr, apt-get install rpm first...)
20:44.12alphaoneapt-get install alien
20:44.14LuitvDdeb-fan here
20:44.18stefan_schmidtLuitvD: Install mc
20:44.22alphaonealien -t hardhat*
20:44.33alphaonetar -xvzf hardhat*
20:44.45LuitvDmidnight commander... never really tried that...
20:45.06LuitvDI just wanna use file-roller on .src.rpm stuff...
20:45.23stefan_schmidtLuitvD: I like it to look into deb/rpm/tar.gz without unpacking them
20:45.45LuitvD:P
20:45.58LuitvDstefan_schmidt: is that a midnight commander function?
20:46.13LuitvDI like doing those things using file-roller
20:46.24LuitvD(don't have to extract it then either...)
20:47.19stefan_schmidtLuitvD: It is pretty similar to file-roller. Just ncurses instead of gtk
20:47.38LuitvDI know... I just never had the urge to use it
20:47.46stefan_schmidtLuitvD: Ok, the interface is different but the function to look into compressed files is the same
20:52.44LuitvDanother phone I'd like to try (and would like to hack) is the Samsung F700 :D
20:53.03LuitvDit's finally here :P branded Qbowl by Vodaphone
20:53.37stefan_schmidtLuitvD: You can hack on the new one once your E6 is fully supported in OpenEZX. :)
20:53.50LuitvD'the new one' ?
20:53.59LuitvD'the holy grail' ?
20:54.00LuitvD:P
20:54.38LuitvDshame the F700 doesn't have WiFi, otherwise I wouldn't have bought my E6
22:19.09stefan_schmidtalphaone: Can you upload your latest status of the 18bpp patch if you have a moment?
22:19.42stefan_schmidtalphaone: Not that I would have to much time handy, but I perhaps like to look at this myself and it would be good to have the stuff ready then.
22:20.41LuitvDstefan_schmidt: oeh, can you fix me a 18bpp patch? :P
22:20.51stefan_schmidtLuitvD: No
22:21.26LuitvDstefan_schmidt: I hope the A1200's 18bpp patch works on E6 too...
22:21.27stefan_schmidtLuitvD: Just like to have the latest status ready *if* I have time to look at it.
22:21.47stefan_schmidtLuitvD: I'm sure it will. Still it needs to get done anywhere.
22:22.26stefan_schmidtLuitvD: And we did not get the one from alexzhang working for us
22:22.42LuitvDstefan_schmidt: I've been dumb, the progress I've made on it until now is on a computer that has been taken apart
22:23.12LuitvDstefan_schmidt: yeah, same here... the patch alexzhang had only got me to the 4-screen display :)
22:23.30LuitvDstefan_schmidt: the one on my flickr account
22:23.39stefan_schmidtLuitvD: I know it
22:24.03alphaonestefan_schmidt: Yeah, but not now
22:24.04LuitvDand I tried so many configurations...
22:24.07stefan_schmidtLuitvD: Until now I have no clue about the whole problem at all. Just like to be prepared
22:24.09alphaoneNeed to relax a little
22:24.30stefan_schmidtalphaone: No problem. Do it when you have the time
22:24.39stefan_schmidtLuitvD: He does not drink
22:24.45LuitvD...
22:25.17alphaoneheh
22:25.20alphaonelater guys
22:25.24stefan_schmidtalphaone: later
22:25.26LuitvDbye alphaone
22:26.18LuitvDstefan_schmidt: should I try a ezx-core + mci patched .23 with a rootfs someday?
22:26.42LuitvDezx-core + mci + touchscreen
22:26.53stefan_schmidtLuitvD: Not for me.
22:27.11stefan_schmidtLuitvD: The test was only to see how far we come with one patch only.
22:27.17LuitvDright
22:27.44LuitvDjust to prepere the ezx-core patch for upstream, isn't it?
22:27.45stefan_schmidtLuitvD: Our first upstream submission should not be that big. As much as is needed to boot and show something on th fb is fine IMHO
22:28.07stefan_schmidtLuitvD: Yes, even if my feeling teels me that this will still take some weeks
22:28.37LuitvDIMHO that first submission should include an 18bpp fbcon for the newer devices...
22:28.46LuitvDbut that's just because I have one :P
22:29.04LuitvDonce again, wishful thinking
22:29.31stefan_schmidtLuitvD: That one soes not depend on the EZX patchset anyway. It can go in even if our stuff isn't
22:31.52ao2guys svn is up again
22:32.24LuitvDnice
22:35.33stefan_schmidtao2: Yes, some magic in /etc/network/interfaces was wrong. Sadly it only showed up after an update.
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22:56.43LuitvDI'm off
22:56.44LuitvDbye
22:59.14stefan_schmidtbye LuitvD
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