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| 03:47.57 | drWyrM | the_mgt: yes. |
| 03:48.29 | drWyrM | the_mgt: which phone do you own? |
| 04:07.51 | nooop | E6 |
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| 09:15.00 | Hopscotch | good morning |
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| 14:27.45 | mrking | Just got to realise OpenEzx today, and through several readings, it looks real cool |
| 14:28.03 | mrking | and i want to get involve in it |
| 14:28.09 | mrking | but one thing |
| 14:28.51 | ade|desk | which is ..... |
| 14:28.56 | mrking | it seems to be difficult to find information on how to put in the OS into the phones |
| 14:30.07 | mrking | ? |
| 14:30.26 | mrking | ade|desk] no comments ? |
| 14:31.11 | ao2 | mrking, what phone do you have? |
| 14:31.47 | ao2 | for a780 there are instructions here: http://wiki.openezx.org/Dual_boot |
| 14:32.22 | mrking | yea, this leads me to, which phone should I buy |
| 14:32.41 | mrking | yea, am buying a phone to get involve :) real excited about it |
| 14:32.49 | ao2 | but the most beautiful thing is that you can try OpenEZX even without putting the OS permanently on the phone, you can load the kernel to RAM and boot from there |
| 14:33.48 | mrking | ahhhh great ! |
| 14:34.02 | mrking | im actually looking at a1200e |
| 14:34.07 | mrking | any suggestion |
| 14:34.18 | ao2 | yes a1200 should be fine |
| 14:34.52 | mrking | hmmm |
| 14:34.54 | ao2 | well, it IS fine, with no "should" |
| 14:34.55 | mrking | what do you have ? |
| 14:35.05 | ao2 | a780 |
| 14:35.10 | mrking | how was it |
| 14:35.49 | mrking | see, i need more remarks like this from a user so that I can make the right choice |
| 14:36.46 | ao2 | a780 is very good, it has builtin GPS. But a1200 is more pleasant looking |
| 14:37.13 | mrking | yea, thats why |
| 14:37.15 | mrking | ;) |
| 14:37.27 | ao2 | E6 is very stylish too |
| 14:38.17 | mrking | but I can't afford |
| 14:38.20 | mrking | ;( |
| 14:39.30 | mrking | hey so your saying, with a1200, I can run OpenEZX without putting the OS on the phone, |
| 14:40.47 | mrking | ? |
| 14:43.33 | mrking | there ? |
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| 14:50.06 | ao2 | mrking, yes but you have to load the kernel on the phone's RAM from another computer |
| 14:50.48 | mrking | through the usb thinggy |
| 14:50.49 | mrking | ? |
| 14:51.10 | ao2 | a1200 is getting a bit cheaper, indeed, we have it at 200Eur in italy nowadays (still too much for my budget) |
| 14:51.18 | ao2 | yes, mrking via boot_usb |
| 14:52.04 | mrking | all models uses the same sdk ? |
| 14:53.42 | ao2 | fo sdk do you mean the application platform? |
| 14:53.44 | ao2 | for |
| 14:54.07 | mrking | yea, thats right |
| 14:54.10 | mrking | :) |
| 14:54.49 | ao2 | you can use whatever you want, OpenMoko, Qtopia, GPE, maybe android in the future, who knows |
| 14:54.59 | ao2 | openezx is mostly about kernel level support |
| 14:57.30 | mrking | ahhh IC |
| 14:57.57 | the_mgt | i just found your project yesterday. am i right that the kernel you build does boot and does a lot of things, but the "making a phone call" section is still unxer construction? |
| 14:58.09 | the_mgt | under, even |
| 14:59.07 | mrking | so the hardware drivers will be with the kernel and all this is manage by openEzx |
| 14:59.09 | mrking | ? |
| 14:59.34 | ao2 | yes, the_mgt. You may be able to make phone call already, but from the command line shell. We still lack integration with gui programs to amke phone calls |
| 15:00.22 | the_mgt | ah, i thought it was a more general problem |
| 15:01.08 | the_mgt | i am just planning on buying a a780 |
| 15:01.42 | ao2 | yes mrking, openezx focuses mainly on drivers and kernel code, and on _basic_ interaction with user level software |
| 15:02.19 | mrking | appreciated |
| 15:04.28 | mrking | Is there a basic tutorial on how to go about everything |
| 15:04.48 | mrking | need some real guides for beginners |
| 15:09.44 | mrking | ? |
| 15:10.03 | the_mgt | i think since this software is in alpha status, there is no beginners guid |
| 15:10.05 | the_mgt | e |
| 15:10.44 | the_mgt | to avoid being blamed or asked things they do not have time to answer ;) |
| 15:33.45 | mickeyl | Shoragan: any idea what's up with stefan and daniel these days? i rarely see them here. uni? or something else? |
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| 17:03.45 | stefan_schmidt | hi all |
| 17:04.05 | webmind | hi |
| 17:05.27 | koen | hey stefan_schmidt |
| 17:05.30 | koen | stefan_schmidt: how's the arm? |
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| 17:06.45 | stefan_schmidt | koen: I would say 97% :) |
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| 17:07.01 | stefan_schmidt | koen: Not sure if I'll get the 3% back anyway. |
| 17:07.12 | stefan_schmidt | But I'm happy with the result so far |
| 17:07.14 | koen | steal it |
| 17:07.16 | stefan_schmidt | hi pH5 |
| 17:07.22 | stefan_schmidt | koen: From whom? |
| 17:07.53 | koen | stefan_schmidt: schauble? |
| 17:09.05 | stefan_schmidt | heh |
| 17:09.24 | pH5 | hey stefan_schmidt, koen |
| 17:09.56 | stefan_schmidt | pH5: Had you time to play with the HTC, or just busy as always. :) |
| 17:09.58 | koen | hey pH5 |
| 17:12.30 | pH5 | stefan_schmidt: I managed to break the wince rom while trying to figure out the bootloader upload commands last week. |
| 17:12.52 | pH5 | stefan_schmidt: before that I had linux booting from haret (console, keyboard and usb worked), but it would lock up after ~5min |
| 17:13.20 | pH5 | now I have to figure out how to either boot linux from the bootloader or get a windows pc somewhere to reflash the os rom. |
| 17:13.41 | stefan_schmidt | pH5: cool :) |
| 17:14.00 | stefan_schmidt | pH5: Linux from bootloader should be the goal, no? |
| 17:15.07 | the_mgt | since i am planning on buying a used a780, what would be the maximum price in euro you`d pay? |
| 17:15.13 | pH5 | stefan_schmidt: I hope so, yes. I don't feel like replacing the bootloader on devices where nobody nows how to reanimate them with jtag. |
| 17:15.32 | pH5 | *knows |
| 17:16.15 | pH5 | (even more so if they are not mine ;)) |
| 17:16.16 | stefan_schmidt | pH5: Nobody ever found out about JTAG? Or only on this device? |
| 17:16.27 | stefan_schmidt | pH5: heh |
| 17:16.35 | stefan_schmidt | the_mgt: hmm, good question |
| 17:16.51 | stefan_schmidt | Mine was 220Eur with 24 month contract 2,5 years ago |
| 17:17.10 | the_mgt | there are still people selling them for about 200 euro on ebay.de |
| 17:17.21 | stefan_schmidt | the_mgt: And I bought an A1200 without contract in Taiwan for ~200Eur two weeks ago |
| 17:17.34 | the_mgt | i think they are new ones. i'll try to stay under 50 for a used one |
| 17:17.56 | stefan_schmidt | the_mgt: A good selling point is the GPS. But you have to be carefull the device really has the chip. Only EU versions have it. |
| 17:18.11 | stefan_schmidt | the_mgt: under 50 sounds hard. |
| 17:18.27 | the_mgt | hmm. ok |
| 17:18.57 | the_mgt | i hope most people overlook the auctions i am looking to hit ;) |
| 17:19.36 | pH5 | stefan_schmidt: I don't know if anybody has done http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=WallabyJTAG on the herald |
| 17:19.55 | stefan_schmidt | the_mgt: heh, nice plan. :) |
| 17:20.46 | stefan_schmidt | pH5: wow |
| 17:24.18 | the_mgt | but i have too little influence on it.... if i only knew voodoo or something like that... |
| 17:25.02 | pH5 | the_mgt: if you learn how to do it, please tell me :) |
| 17:25.08 | stefan_schmidt | the_mgt: What do you plan to do with the A780? |
| 17:25.20 | the_mgt | ok, will do, pH5 |
| 17:26.09 | the_mgt | well, curently i use this 6 year old nokia. i was looking for a phone with java and bluetooth. then i was visiting the openmoko hp and somebody mentioned he had put openmoko on that a780 |
| 17:26.43 | the_mgt | so i found out it is a linux phone. since i am linux user, i thought "hey, great, so i can put some nice gimmicks on it" |
| 17:27.26 | the_mgt | i like its look and the pda functions and especially the gps |
| 17:28.17 | the_mgt | basically, i like the devices i use to be costumizable, and i believe a linux phone will have this ability |
| 17:28.27 | stefan_schmidt | the_mgt: Be aware that you need to stay with the original foirmware for some more time. OpenMoko on EZX is still some time away. |
| 17:28.59 | the_mgt | yes, i am aware. but at least there is hope ;) |
| 17:29.42 | stefan_schmidt | the_mgt: There is. I have to many EZX devices that I would OpenMoko come around to support it. :) |
| 17:29.44 | the_mgt | and what i gathered from some forums, there are already some things you can do with the original firmware which go into the directions i was looking |
| 17:30.22 | stefan_schmidt | the_mgt: There are RE header files so you can write native c/c++ apps |
| 17:31.14 | the_mgt | is the bluez stack running so that i might use a PAN? |
| 17:31.56 | stefan_schmidt | the_mgt: On 2.6 it should and I also heard of bluez for the 2.4 original kernel |
| 17:31.58 | the_mgt | from what i read, bluez seems to run, but it was unclear if a PAN works |
| 17:32.20 | the_mgt | nice |
| 17:32.31 | ao2 | guys, have you ever heard of Eten M500 phone(http://www.etencorp.com/products/Communication/500.php)? A cousin of mine got it and I found that it is based on Samsung S3C2440 so I think linux should like it... |
| 17:32.39 | stefan_schmidt | the_mgt: We at OpenEZX only care about 2.6, but some of the devs are also on motorolafans, so have some clue about 2.4, too. |
| 17:33.03 | stefan_schmidt | ao2: Hi, long not seen. |
| 17:33.30 | stefan_schmidt | ao2: The SoC is supported, problem is, as always, driver for all the other chips. :) |
| 17:34.05 | ao2 | hi stefan_schmidt I read your arm is quite good, very pleased of that |
| 17:34.09 | the_mgt | stefan_schmidt: yeah, thats what i figured out. you basically care about the kernel porting stuff, userspace apps seem to be adaptable from openmoko or whatever |
| 17:34.20 | stefan_schmidt | ao2: thanks |
| 17:35.11 | stefan_schmidt | the_mgt: Exactly. But working for OpenMoko, I also work on the platform. :) |
| 17:36.17 | the_mgt | i see, nice! |
| 17:38.00 | the_mgt | have to leave for shopping, cu |
| 17:39.22 | stefan_schmidt | cu |
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| 19:29.07 | the_mgt | i just searched motorolafans and the german a780 forum for vpn, but i did not find anything. does the original firmware support it? thats one of the things i am hoping to do with it |
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| 19:52.39 | stefan_schmidt | the_mgt: I have a movian VPN Client pre-installed on mine. |
| 19:57.32 | the_mgt | nice, thx |
| 20:00.33 | stefan_schmidt | the_mgt: Never tested it though |
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