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| 05:53.32 | iceskycn | who have Algae IC docs? |
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| 07:27.50 | iceskycn | which is driver for BP(neptune?) in patch? |
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| 12:29.14 | drWyrM | good morning. |
| 12:31.03 | koen | hey drWyrM |
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| 12:59.50 | ao2 | drWyrM, about pxakbd: I reproduced the double press event that you reported. It happens only for keycode defined more than once in a780 matrix. For now we can avoid that defining unique keycodes across the keys arrays. Later I will give a further look to the matrix reading routine, I suspect there are still some issues also in the case of multiple key presses. |
| 13:03.22 | ao2 | Ah, and about the power key, It looks like it can be detected only by BP, tracing tapisrv I saw that on powerkey pression the it reads "\r\n+EKEV: 19,1\r\n" from mux4 and then writes "AT+CPWR=1\r" on mux4 |
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| 13:09.49 | WyrM | ao2: great! i tought that was some interrupt handling bug. using unique keycodes looks fine for me. :) |
| 13:11.59 | ao2 | did you read the message about the power key? |
| 13:12.11 | drWyrM | no. :/ |
| 13:12.17 | ao2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:12.52 | ao2 | so as you said, we need to handle it completely from userspace |
| 13:12.53 | drWyrM | great! :) |
| 13:13.09 | drWyrM | cpwr is the poweroff command? |
| 13:13.57 | ao2 | maybe it turns off the BP or some other part? |
| 13:14.52 | ao2 | sending it manually to opentapy does not have any _visible_ effect (visible to me, at least) |
| 13:14.59 | drWyrM | check later if after sending cpwr makes BP lower wdi line or what (cat /proc/interrupt) |
| 13:15.32 | drWyrM | try cpwr=0 also :) |
| 13:16.02 | ao2 | well, I still cannot get stable communication with opentapi |
| 13:16.25 | drWyrM | oops, sorry, my fault, i forgot to commit. :/ |
| 13:16.52 | drWyrM | as soon as i get home, i promess :) |
| 13:17.01 | ao2 | no problem :) |
| 13:17.04 | ao2 | thanks |
| 13:18.10 | drWyrM | ao2: could you add these BP commands to the wiki? |
| 13:18.33 | ao2 | Yes, I will do |
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| 21:02.33 | drWyrM | cia bot is not working? |
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| 21:03.36 | drWyrM | hi pmarques. |
| 21:04.18 | pmarques | hi, drWyrM |
| 21:05.13 | drWyrM | i saw the irclog about the e6 lcd. |
| 21:05.18 | pmarques | ok, the "dr" is probably Daniel Ribeiro, but what does the "WyrM" stands for? (if you don't mind me asking) :) |
| 21:05.30 | drWyrM | that explain the green color you got :) |
| 21:05.51 | pmarques | I've looked up the datasheet and it seems that I can not "just" select 16 bits :( |
| 21:05.53 | drWyrM | WyrM is from RPG game Werewolf. |
| 21:06.58 | pmarques | the way the LCD connects to the PXA is different for 16 or 18 bits... so I guess I must support 18 bits |
| 21:07.23 | drWyrM | the code on other kernels is too complex? |
| 21:08.13 | pmarques | humm... what other kernels? you mean ezx for other devices or the motorola kernels? |
| 21:09.27 | drWyrM | motorola kernels. E2/A1200 arent 18bit also? |
| 21:10.03 | pmarques | the E2 open ezx uses a 8 bit framebuffer, but is "paletized", so it might be 18 bits output... |
| 21:10.19 | pmarques | I haven't looked at the motorola kernels yet |
| 21:10.41 | pmarques | BTW, where can I get them from? |
| 21:11.02 | drWyrM | opensource.motorola.com |
| 21:12.21 | drWyrM | if the code is too complex, you should go to other stuff.. mci and usb are much more useful. |
| 21:13.18 | pmarques | I'll take a look... unfortunately there is still no ROKR E6 code there :( |
| 21:13.58 | drWyrM | yes, i know :( but a1200/e2 probably share 90% of the code with e6. |
| 21:14.20 | pmarques | apparently the A1200 uses 18bpp |
| 21:14.34 | pmarques | I'm downloading the A1200 kernel source |
| 21:14.40 | pmarques | done |
| 21:15.51 | pmarques | and apparently the ROKR E2 is also 18bpp |
| 21:18.01 | pmarques | I can't build a single OpenEmbedded image without erroring out somewhere in the middle... :( |
| 21:18.41 | koen | pmarques: stop trying to build opie |
| 21:18.43 | koen | opie is dead |
| 21:19.41 | pmarques | I was actually building a gpe-image |
| 21:20.03 | pmarques | or an openmoko-image |
| 21:20.12 | pmarques | they all fail at some point |
| 21:20.34 | pmarques | I was only able to build a "angstrom-minimal-image" once |
| 21:20.47 | koen | have you read http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom ? |
| 21:21.04 | koen | that shows the images that are garanteed to build |
| 21:21.17 | pmarques | that might help :) |
| 21:22.14 | koen | you could also just download an prebuilt image |
| 21:23.16 | pmarques | I have one that stefan pointed me to, for tests... I just wanted to understand OpenEmbedded because it seems like a really useful tool to build embedded distros |
| 21:24.32 | pmarques | it was not too long ago that I was playing with a board with a Cirrus EP3902 processor and wanted to build a root filesystem optimized for processors with maverick crunch |
| 21:24.42 | koen | heh |
| 21:24.52 | koen | cirrus stabbed you in the eye? |
| 21:24.58 | pmarques | I just gave up at the time... now I would probably try to build my own distro with OpenEmbedded |
| 21:25.14 | koen | http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/ep93xx/ :) |
| 21:26.13 | pmarques | this might have been such a useful info just a couple of months ago (me bangs head on the wall) :) |
| 21:27.11 | koen | we (lennert, tglx, I) are a bit pissed off at cirrus |
| 21:27.45 | pmarques | why? |
| 21:28.25 | koen | see http://lwn.net/Articles/230831/ |
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| 21:31.43 | pmarques | (me reads article) |
| 21:33.45 | pmarques | WTF is "http://linux-arm.org/"??? they're joking, right? |
| 21:33.58 | koen | sadly, they aren't joking |
| 21:35.59 | pmarques | well, I wasn't stabbed by Cirrus directly, but was stabbed by Techologic Systems (http://www.embeddedarm.com/) |
| 21:36.19 | koen | "BSD IS THE GREATEST!!!!!!!" |
| 21:36.29 | koen | Jesse Off is an ass |
| 21:36.53 | pmarques | It is a small world :) you know Jesse, too ;) |
| 21:37.02 | pmarques | what an ass |
| 21:38.51 | koen | 'night all |
| 21:49.53 | LuitvD | hello |
| 21:50.02 | pmarques | hi |
| 21:50.10 | LuitvD | how's your E6 doing? :P |
| 21:50.32 | pmarques | much the same... not much time since yesterday |
| 21:50.46 | LuitvD | :P |
| 21:51.30 | LuitvD | right now I'm not sure about the E6 anymore XD |
| 21:51.39 | LuitvD | I want the moto Ming too |
| 21:51.59 | LuitvD | it's a shame I can't just have everythink |
| 21:52.05 | LuitvD | everything* |
| 21:52.56 | LuitvD | so how's the bpp thing going? |
| 21:54.19 | pmarques | I've read the datasheet... I'll have to support 18bpp, because the physical connections for 16bpp are different |
| 21:54.57 | LuitvD | so it'll be 18? |
| 21:55.10 | LuitvD | good |
| 21:55.11 | LuitvD | :P |
| 21:55.14 | pmarques | my only options are 8bpp with a 18bpp palette (yuck, yuck), 18bpp/3 bytes per pixel or 18bpp/4 bytes per pixel :P |
| 21:55.27 | LuitvD | eyecandy ftw :) |
| 21:55.30 | LuitvD | full throttle |
| 21:55.46 | pmarques | :) |
| 21:56.03 | LuitvD | damn, I really need a job :P need to get some money to buy me a decent phone :P |
| 21:57.02 | pmarques | the difference between 16bpp and 18bpp is barely noticeable, but noticeable nonetheless... especially when you have a very smooth gradient that slowly goes from one light color to a dark color |
| 21:57.14 | pmarques | what are your skills? |
| 21:57.32 | LuitvD | mine? for a job, or for this project? :P |
| 21:57.48 | pmarques | for a job... just curious... |
| 21:58.27 | LuitvD | well... have worked at a DIY store for about 1,5 years... but I got bored and hated the way things were done there |
| 21:59.13 | LuitvD | though for about a year I was quite a good paint mixer there |
| 21:59.16 | LuitvD | color mixer |
| 21:59.24 | pmarques | :) |
| 21:59.52 | LuitvD | not that it's hard to let the customer choose a color and paint, and simply bash it into the computer |
| 22:00.21 | pmarques | a coleague of mine worked as a color mixer once... he made sure the color matched the paint the costumer had.... the only thing is that he is colorblind :) |
| 22:00.24 | LuitvD | the hardest part was knowing which combinations worked, and which didn't :P and give advice |
| 22:00.35 | LuitvD | hahah, that's a nice one :P |
| 22:00.41 | pmarques | but the machine had a chromatograph (or something like that) |
| 22:00.53 | LuitvD | just wanted to say that :P |
| 22:01.03 | pmarques | so he actually performed is job quite well :) |
| 22:01.32 | LuitvD | it's hard to screw up when mixing paints :P |
| 22:01.47 | LuitvD | though having full-color sight is somewhat easyer :P |
| 22:01.57 | pmarques | :) |
| 22:02.04 | LuitvD | didn't really like the chromatographs we had there |
| 22:03.00 | LuitvD | I just grabbed a colorbook (no idea what it's called) and compared |
| 22:03.44 | LuitvD | anyhow, I'm trying to get a job at a computer/-supplies store |
| 22:04.56 | LuitvD | hell, I'm only 17, don't think I should be this picky about a job |
| 22:04.58 | LuitvD | :) |
| 22:05.03 | pmarques | :) |
| 22:05.38 | LuitvD | so what's your profession? |
| 22:05.47 | pmarques | well, I'm still less than twice your age... |
| 22:06.01 | LuitvD | XD |
| 22:06.11 | pmarques | I'm a developer... I develop software for restaurants |
| 22:06.34 | LuitvD | sounds interesting ... but I'm not sure what kind of software that is |
| 22:07.44 | drWyrM | free entry and free drinks ;) |
| 22:07.49 | LuitvD | lolz |
| 22:07.50 | pmarques | :) |
| 22:08.24 | LuitvD | wyrm: why the jump from nightclub to mobile phone? |
| 22:08.29 | LuitvD | XD |
| 22:08.30 | pmarques | we have a dsitributor in Brazil... if you need to upgrade your software and don't want to bother developing, I can gie you his contact :) |
| 22:09.03 | pmarques | and I've already ran my software on my phone 8) |
| 22:09.13 | drWyrM | i am working for the government now. |
| 22:09.19 | pmarques | I love Linux :) |
| 22:09.27 | drWyrM | i work with phones just for the fun of it. |
| 22:09.41 | LuitvD | lol |
| 22:10.07 | LuitvD | amazing how a piece of decent software can come out of a bunch of enthusiasts :P |
| 22:11.14 | pmarques | my POV is that this works the other way around... |
| 22:11.59 | pmarques | we are decent developers and because of that we see the value of Linux and the open source model |
| 22:12.09 | pmarques | so we converge around it |
| 22:12.20 | pmarques | and make it thrive |
| 22:12.41 | LuitvD | and laugh in the face of microsoft |
| 22:12.43 | LuitvD | :) |
| 22:12.47 | LuitvD | (my favourite part) |
| 22:14.10 | pmarques | I used to, but now I really don't care about Microsoft... I just ignore them |
| 22:14.51 | LuitvD | well, it's hard to ignore them now they're saying linux' kernel violates 42 US Patents |
| 22:14.59 | LuitvD | owned by microsoft |
| 22:15.28 | pmarques | for that we have the great Linus, with his witty remarks ;) |
| 22:15.42 | LuitvD | heh |
| 22:16.22 | LuitvD | drWyrM: that's one of the things I dislike about getting a job in the computer branche... I'll have to sell MS Vista to customers... |
| 22:17.07 | LuitvD | I'm glad my dad is certain Vista's suckyness |
| 22:17.18 | LuitvD | certain of* |
| 22:18.06 | pmarques | Microsoft has all the dirty tricks to push Vista out, even if people don't want to upgrade... |
| 22:18.46 | LuitvD | yeah, like not selling OEM win XP after december this year |
| 22:18.53 | pmarques | a friend of mine bought a new laptop, that obviously came with Vista... it took him about 3 days to figure out how he could put XP in it |
| 22:19.09 | pmarques | and he is very computer literate |
| 22:19.19 | LuitvD | 3 days? :| |
| 22:19.24 | LuitvD | wow... |
| 22:19.34 | LuitvD | oh wait, that's vista's slogan :P |
| 22:19.42 | pmarques | (and before you ask, he placed XP in just a small partiton leaving the rest for Linux ;) ) |
| 22:20.03 | pmarques | Yes he did manage to get that WOW effect out of me too :) |
| 22:20.51 | LuitvD | to me, the "The wow is now" effect is when I realize how rapidly my harddrive will be sweeped by the linux installer |
| 22:21.16 | pmarques | LuitvD: about my work, this is our website: www.grupopie.com, but is the old version... the new is being worked on :( |
| 22:21.39 | LuitvD | eek, it's portugese |
| 22:21.42 | LuitvD | :P |
| 22:21.48 | pmarques | :) |
| 22:21.55 | pmarques | where are you from? |
| 22:22.01 | LuitvD | the netherlands :) |
| 22:22.23 | LuitvD | heheh, I like the "Why linux" part of that site :D |
| 22:23.27 | LuitvD | palladium? |
| 22:23.55 | drWyrM | LuitvD: yes, trusted computing. |
| 22:24.04 | pmarques | LuitvD: here you go: http://www.weldata.nl/software.htm |
| 22:24.13 | LuitvD | drWyrM: haven't heard of that yet... |
| 22:24.39 | pmarques | I don't think even Microsoft has the muscle to pull that off |
| 22:25.06 | drWyrM | it would make them decide what you can and what you cannot run on your processor. |
| 22:25.36 | LuitvD | yikes |
| 22:25.45 | pmarques | but does anyone (even computer iliterate persons) want that? |
| 22:26.08 | LuitvD | I can imagine some way to make people want that... |
| 22:26.09 | pmarques | The first manufacturer that would build such a machine would sell precisely zero |
| 22:26.14 | LuitvD | called false hope |
| 22:26.30 | pmarques | and see the other manufacturers sales fly by |
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| 22:35.34 | pmarques | pmarques compares a linux-2.4.17 with a linux-2.4.17.motorola and runs way screaming!!!! |
| 22:36.04 | pmarques | "8878 files changed, 1556926 insertions(+), 1030097 deletions(-)"... what is this? this kernel must be the wrong version, no? |
| 22:36.22 | drWyrM | most changes are from monta vista linux. |
| 22:37.27 | pmarques | even just the /arch/arm directory yields: "531 files changed, 117894 insertions(+), 7002 deletions(-)" |
| 22:38.10 | drWyrM | dont panic. It will be worse when you start trying to understand some pieces of code. |
| 22:38.39 | drWyrM | the monta vista part is at least legible :) |
| 22:38.47 | pmarques | that makes feel a lot better, thanks :) |
| 22:39.49 | pmarques | the whole 2.4.17 kernel is just around 3.5 million lines of code... how could they change 1.5 million? that is almost a new OS |
| 22:44.44 | pmarques | the moto kernel config uses code names for the phones: Barbados, Martinique, Sumatra and Hainan |
| 22:44.55 | pmarques | do you know which one of this is the A1200? |
| 22:46.04 | drWyrM | IIRC sumatra is the E2. |
| 22:49.12 | pmarques | it seems the A1200 is Hainan |
| 22:51.50 | LuitvD | that's one hell of a changelog... |
| 22:52.27 | pmarques | I found this: "...A1200, also known as MotoMing or Hainan..." |
| 22:52.43 | LuitvD | ah |
| 22:52.58 | LuitvD | the "Ming" is a well-known nick |
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| 22:53.27 | pmarques | yes, I knew that one... the Hainan must be an old development code name |
| 22:53.34 | LuitvD | most likely |
| 22:54.48 | pmarques | drWyrM: the most juicy stuff of the moto kernel should be at "arch/arm/mach-ezx", no? |
| 22:55.48 | drWyrM | pmarques: and drivers/misc/ |
| 22:57.33 | pmarques | I see... and "drivers/video/ezx_lcd/" ... and probably sound is somewhere else too, right? |
| 22:57.38 | pmarques | usb... |
| 22:59.59 | drWyrM | dont care about usb. we use another driver. |
| 23:00.31 | drWyrM | sound is pcap based. |
| 23:00.55 | drWyrM | pcap is the super motorols asic, present on almost all moto phones. |
| 23:01.02 | pmarques | drivers/mmc for the SD card... |
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| 23:20.19 | pmarques | I'm going now... night |
| 23:20.34 | drWyrM | pmarques: bye :) |
| 23:20.50 | LuitvD | 'night |
| 23:21.27 | LuitvD | what's the time there drWyrM? |
| 23:21.48 | drWyrM | LuitvD: its 8:20 pm, gmt-3 |
| 23:22.09 | drWyrM | LuitvD: good night :) |
| 23:22.09 | LuitvD | where is that? |
| 23:22.09 | drWyrM | Brasil. |
| 23:22.19 | LuitvD | nice |
| 23:22.32 | LuitvD | 2:20 am here :P |
| 23:22.38 | LuitvD | eh, 1:20 |
| 23:22.44 | drWyrM | heheh, its late. |
| 23:22.50 | LuitvD | yeah |
| 23:22.59 | LuitvD | 2:20 or 1:20... both too late |
| 23:23.42 | LuitvD | 'night wyrm |
| 23:23.52 | drWyrM | 'night. |
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