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| 06:50.40 | Hopscotch | good morning |
| 07:01.44 | iceskycn | morning |
| 07:11.03 | blkhawk[work] | lo |
| 07:11.12 | blkhawk[work] | finally managed to upgrade my mobile |
| 07:12.02 | blkhawk[work] | more like I finally got my hands on a germanm firmware i could flash :P # |
| 07:12.34 | blkhawk[work] | is it just me or is the 76 firmware a lot snappier than the 74 one was |
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| 07:28.14 | Pengu1n_ | hi there |
| 07:29.55 | iceskycn | hi |
| 07:38.34 | Pengu1n_ | is there a kernel image for E680i for booting from usb, and rootfs in SD card? |
| 07:41.35 | iceskycn | look for http://people.openezx.org/ |
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| 07:52.35 | Pengu1n_ | thx |
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| 15:53.39 | ao2 | hi |
| 15:54.37 | florian | hi ao2 |
| 15:55.16 | ao2 | drWyrM, I'm rebuilding a custom rootfs so I can flash blob2. Did you removed anything from your original rootfs? I extracted the original one, added two modules and recreated it. It is smaller that the original one, but not less than 24510464 bytes |
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| 16:41.54 | drWyrM | ao2: i removed wireless village instant messenger and samba. |
| 16:42.17 | drWyrM | wvim is present on all firmwares and doesnt work at all. |
| 16:42.40 | ao2 | thanks, you saved me a bit of time |
| 16:47.55 | ao2 | after I make the rootfs should I pad it to the its destination area length? |
| 16:49.50 | drWyrM | no need for that. |
| 16:50.03 | drWyrM | just run fixloader from ezxflasher. |
| 17:09.58 | ao2 | ok, rootfs done, I miss only the 2.6 kernel, drWyrM are you going to commit latest ezx-bp changes soon? So i flash directly the latest kernel |
| 17:15.57 | drWyrM | ao2: i can commit it tonight. |
| 17:16.32 | drWyrM | but the biggest change that makes everything power management working with BP in normal mode is opentapi. |
| 17:17.09 | drWyrM | it should not send at+usbstat=255,1 with this command BP puts the battery to charge and dont accept suspend. |
| 17:17.26 | ao2 | ok, no hurry, in the meantime I see If I can play a bit with flexbits, so to flash also an enhanched setup |
| 17:17.45 | ao2 | you mean we'd better change opentapi code? |
| 17:19.03 | drWyrM | ao2: yes. i am sending atz on my setup. the phone does not turn off, and suspend/resume are working with bp in normal mode. |
| 17:19.16 | ao2 | fine |
| 17:19.28 | drWyrM | with usbstat=255,1 the phone imediately resumes after suspend. |
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| 18:03.17 | dion | drWyrM: so basically there should be some hotplug/udev rule that will send this command on cable plug in? |
| 18:08.44 | ao2 | dion, I get this message when trying to flash with ezxflash: No devices found or devCnt!=1 |
| 18:09.37 | ao2 | I ran fixloader, than sent the loader to the device and then started to flash loading list_ezx.txt. Is that process right? |
| 18:10.38 | ao2 | RDL is running and I see two devices in ezxflash: "Motorola Ezx AP Flash" and "Secure Motorola Flash" |
| 18:11.46 | dion | do you use it as root? (or with udev rule) |
| 18:11.46 | dion | it's like bootusb. and it can send kernel image like bootusb too |
| 18:11.56 | dion | wait.. You shouldn't send loader by hands or using bootusb. Just press flash button and choice list_ezx |
| 18:12.23 | ao2 | with root, yes |
| 18:12.38 | dion | phone should be in "blue screen" mode with only one device |
| 18:12.53 | ao2 | dion in list_ezx there is no loader listed, is that right? |
| 18:13.00 | dion | no |
| 18:13.07 | dion | there should be loader (first line) |
| 18:13.15 | ao2 | so fixloader did something wrong |
| 18:13.27 | ao2 | I will retry |
| 18:13.32 | dion | fixloader reads data from list.txt |
| 18:13.44 | dion | also i have never tested it with a780. |
| 18:14.34 | ao2 | moreover I think I did something wrong the first time, since now I have an _almost_ bricked a780 :) the trick of inserting the battery with jogdial and camera button pressed worked, so I can enter the bootloder, an I think I habe to not worry too much.. yet |
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| 18:18.00 | dion | ao2: list_ezx.txt should contains >=2 lines. First line - addr of loader, all other lines - addrs of codegroups. Generally fixloader reads all data from list.txt and remove non-AP groups, because BP flashing is not implemented (but i know how to implement it too). |
| 18:18.50 | dion | also there is file cg.dat - "database" of all AP groups. |
| 18:19.09 | dion | maybe you should update it too (for A780) |
| 18:19.36 | ao2 | this is list.txt i am using: |
| 18:19.36 | ao2 | a0200000 |
| 18:19.37 | ao2 | 00020000 |
| 18:19.37 | ao2 | 00040000 |
| 18:19.37 | ao2 | 00120000 |
| 18:19.37 | ao2 | 01880000 |
| 18:19.43 | ao2 | sorry for the little spam |
| 18:20.10 | ao2 | this is the cg.dat: |
| 18:20.12 | dion | looks like ok. at least loader is first line |
| 18:20.26 | ao2 | 99 00020000 0003ffff |
| 18:20.27 | ao2 | 98 00040000 0011ffff |
| 18:20.27 | ao2 | 33 00120000 0187ffff |
| 18:20.27 | ao2 | 97 01880000 019fffff |
| 18:20.27 | ao2 | 34 01a00000 01f9ffff |
| 18:20.27 | ao2 | 36 01fa0000 01fbffff |
| 18:20.38 | ao2 | now I run fixloader |
| 18:21.06 | ao2 | this is the list_ezx.txt I get: |
| 18:21.08 | ao2 | 00020000 |
| 18:21.08 | ao2 | 00040000 |
| 18:21.08 | ao2 | 00120000 |
| 18:21.09 | ao2 | 01880000 |
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| 18:21.24 | dion | hmm.. something strange.. i will check this now |
| 18:22.33 | ao2 | I can make a tarball of my working dir and send you it that can help |
| 18:22.55 | dion | no.. i can use dummy files. |
| 18:23.16 | ao2 | ok, fine |
| 18:23.23 | dion | can you also post fixloader output? |
| 18:23.39 | ao2 | sure: |
| 18:23.41 | ao2 | > ../../fixloader/fixloader |
| 18:23.41 | ao2 | Will erase 4 CG's |
| 18:23.41 | ao2 | Boot loader: a0200000 |
| 18:23.42 | ao2 | 99 00020000 000297ff 00020000 0003ffff |
| 18:23.42 | ao2 | 98 00040000 0011bdcb 00040000 0011ffff |
| 18:23.44 | ao2 | 33 00120000 01844fff 00120000 0187ffff |
| 18:23.44 | ao2 | 97 01880000 019a07af 01880000 019fffff |
| 18:25.17 | dion | so looks like it patch loader, but forget to add it to list_ezx |
| 18:28.37 | ao2 | so, can I prepend manually a0200000 to list_ezx.txt? |
| 18:28.54 | ao2 | or use directy the list.txt I showed tou (no BP files here) |
| 18:29.42 | dion | yes. i'm commiting fixed version |
| 18:29.44 | drWyrM | dion: about the usbcable: Yes. we should signal BP from userspace when cable connected if we want charging. |
| 18:30.53 | dion | ao2: r2005, but you just can use list.txt |
| 18:31.03 | ao2 | ok |
| 18:31.50 | drWyrM | ao2: i use list.txt. |
| 18:32.09 | drWyrM | its safe if you use the cg.dat from blob2. No bp codegroups. |
| 18:32.35 | ao2 | ok, let me try again |
| 18:33.26 | dion | blob2 is fine, but as far as i understand it's will be not so easy to make something for e2. because fixloader will not work (e2 use signed loaders so fixloader will break signature) |
| 18:33.45 | drWyrM | ao2: i got really scared the first time i wrote USER_OFF_FLAG on the first 4 bytes of the ram. |
| 18:34.03 | drWyrM | even the battery trick doesnt worked to enter the bootloader. |
| 18:34.05 | drWyrM | heheheh |
| 18:35.45 | ao2 | drWyrM I stand on your shoulders, so a bit less scared (i hope you do not have any dandruff... just joking, eh) :) |
| 18:38.51 | ao2 | ok, ezxflash tells me ERASING MEMORY, but the progress bar is not advancing |
| 18:39.29 | ao2 | and I see two deviced listed now... |
| 18:39.36 | ao2 | devices |
| 18:39.51 | drWyrM | ao2: wait, no panic |
| 18:40.09 | drWyrM | when erasing it looks like freeze but is not. |
| 18:40.48 | ao2 | also the carachters after the ERASE word are a bit weird, but this should be a qt problem, since I am in a gnome environment |
| 18:41.11 | ao2 | ok, let's wait |
| 18:41.38 | ao2 | I decided to flash the kernel I have now, before I loose my braveness :) |
| 18:42.01 | ao2 | ok, flashing now |
| 18:44.21 | drWyrM | ao2: later you can edit list.txt and flash just the new kernel. |
| 18:45.31 | ao2 | yes, now I got how this flashing thing works |
| 18:46.28 | pmarques | Hi, all. I've recently bought a ROKR E6 and I am still trying to find out how I can go with the ezx software stack before I start experimenting with a 2.6 kernel and alternative stacks |
| 18:46.29 | drWyrM | worked? |
| 18:46.50 | ao2 | drWyrM, 82% |
| 18:47.05 | pmarques | I was able to install the ezx-crosstool and compile and run a test program of mine |
| 18:47.41 | ao2 | pmarques, to go with OpenEZX the fisrt step can be to get boot_usb work on E6 |
| 18:47.59 | pmarques | I tried to install opie-ezx, but the "opieproxy" binary that comes with it needs some libraries that I don't have |
| 18:48.11 | drWyrM | hi pmarques. welcome. |
| 18:48.27 | pmarques | thanks |
| 18:48.51 | drWyrM | pmarques: i dont had a nice experience with opie-ezx. |
| 18:49.21 | drWyrM | it takes too much memory. the phone becomes really slow when loading ezx and opie at same time. |
| 18:49.23 | ao2 | drWyrM, moto kernel works, now I will go dual boot |
| 18:49.46 | drWyrM | ao2: great! :) |
| 18:50.47 | ao2 | I've added some details to the README of your myflash.tgz. I add some more notes about flashing with ezxflash and send a diff to openezx-devel |
| 18:51.03 | pmarques | I wasn't really trying to use opie-ezx... I just wanted to see if I could use opieproxy to do a simple full-screen applications work without having to dig very deep into qt stuff |
| 18:51.43 | drWyrM | pmarques: and it fails to compile or segfault? |
| 18:51.57 | drWyrM | ao2: thank you. later i will put it on svn. |
| 18:51.57 | ao2 | OpenEZX kernel panics, but hey, it boots, great! |
| 18:51.59 | dion | ao2: these 2 characters near ERASE are just non-printable ones |
| 18:52.16 | ao2 | ok, dion, many thanks to you too |
| 18:52.32 | drWyrM | ao2: remove the usbcable before booting from flash. |
| 18:52.41 | drWyrM | i dont know what causes this. |
| 18:52.44 | ao2 | :) ok |
| 18:52.44 | pmarques | when I run a pre-built binary if complains I don't have (for instance) "libezxappbase-xscale-r.so.1"... because I only have "libezxappbase.so.1" |
| 18:53.32 | drWyrM | pmarques: ezx libs changed a lot after a1200. You will need to recompile opieproxy. |
| 18:53.35 | pmarques | I tried to build it myself, but still couldn't get a toolchain to work well enough to build it |
| 18:54.17 | dion | pmarques: I have never see working headers for EZX on non-E680i/A780 |
| 18:54.18 | pmarques | what is the "easiest to build" toolchain available? (or this this a controversial question?) |
| 18:54.43 | dion | pmarques: to use with original 2.4 kernel - maybe mkezx |
| 18:54.52 | ao2 | ok, drWyrM openembedded is booting, great. |
| 18:54.58 | ao2 | see you later guys |
| 18:55.03 | dion | ao2: bb |
| 18:55.14 | drWyrM | ao2: bye! |
| 18:56.14 | drWyrM | pmarques: the problem is that motorola doesnt release information to use ezxlibs. The ezx headers on most ezx toolchains are revved. |
| 18:56.45 | pmarques | can mkezx compile qt apps that run on an unmodified rokr e6 phone? |
| 18:57.06 | dion | no |
| 18:59.11 | pmarques | BTW, as a desperate attempt, I gave opieproxy the libs I had, by copying/renaming them, pointing LD_LIBRARY_PATH to them and running it... it then ran but segfault'ed as expected... the ABI is probably different |
| 18:59.31 | drWyrM | pmarques: the ABI is right. |
| 18:59.41 | drWyrM | the libs are wrong :) |
| 19:03.35 | pmarques | If I copy the libs I need from a previous phone and run everything (sort of a "hand made static" executable), should it work? |
| 19:03.55 | drWyrM | no. |
| 19:04.36 | drWyrM | the best way for you is getting the library headers from a1200 and then trying to discover what changed on e6. |
| 19:04.53 | drWyrM | i dont know how to do it. but there are some tutorials around. |
| 19:05.06 | pmarques | I was just going to ask if that is the only way ;) |
| 19:05.30 | drWyrM | i think unfortunately it is :( |
| 19:06.57 | pmarques | Hummm... I didn't want to put much effort into the closed motorola ezxlib crap... if it is going to take that much trouble, I think I'm better of investing my time in a clean software stack |
| 19:07.25 | dion | pmarques: also you can some _very_ugly_ hacks. For example you can write simple java fullscreen app, that will send all events (like touchscreen, keyboard) to localhost's TCP socket, and then recompile patchesd qt, that will read events not from real devices, but from this socket. |
| 19:07.40 | dion | pmarques: clean stack is better |
| 19:08.12 | robtaylor | has anyone had success with a rokr e6 yet? |
| 19:09.13 | drWyrM | robtaylor: we are waiting to see who will be the first one to boot OpenEZX on e6. |
| 19:09.21 | dion | i never see about E6 here... anyway currently drWyrM, ao2 and other kernel guys works with A780/E680 support |
| 19:09.26 | drWyrM | noone tried yet :) |
| 19:10.21 | koen | robtaylor: is that the one jeff had? |
| 19:10.31 | robtaylor | koen: nope, that was a krzr |
| 19:10.45 | koen | not a fjkd or a iroer or ndkanf? |
| 19:10.52 | robtaylor | koen: the kernel source for that isn't available afaict :/ |
| 19:10.55 | robtaylor | koen: lol =) |
| 19:11.26 | pmarques | drWyrM: ha, you're just saying that to make me want to try it myself :) |
| 19:11.55 | dion | pmarques: it's easy to try :) |
| 19:13.06 | drWyrM | pmarques: i have worked a lot on code cleanup trying to make the initial booting on new phones the easy as possible. |
| 19:13.15 | drWyrM | and noone used it yet.. :) |
| 19:14.03 | robtaylor | drWyrM: what changes? |
| 19:14.38 | drWyrM | robtaylor: about what? |
| 19:14.43 | pmarques | what is the current best gcc to compile the kernel for the phone? and userspace? |
| 19:15.00 | robtaylor | drWyrM: changes to boot_usb, you mean? |
| 19:15.20 | drWyrM | pmarques: use OE and forget. Let koen take care of this for us :) |
| 19:15.28 | dion | pmarques: try openembedded |
| 19:16.31 | pmarques | I just meant that it is easier to build a gcc to compile the kernel than userspace apps... to compile the kernel you don't need any libs at all, just plain bintutils+gcc |
| 19:17.17 | pmarques | so maybe it would be better to use a gcc 4.1.2 with EABI (or whatever) to build the kernel even if we then use gcc 3.3.6 for userspace |
| 19:17.23 | dion | pmarques: use openembedded. it's really easy to use. no need to build gcc twice |
| 19:18.19 | pmarques | ok, it's better to start simple anyway ;) |
| 19:18.19 | drWyrM | robtaylor: its kind of blind. Try to determine the memory mapping range, on a780/e680 it starts at 0xa0000000. adding 0x8000 to the memory base should be a safe region to send the kernel. |
| 19:19.34 | robtaylor | drWyrM: yeah, i was hacking in supprot for krzr a while back |
| 19:19.56 | robtaylor | drWyrM: but krzr has DES encryption on the bootloader :( |
| 19:20.18 | robtaylor | (not to mention a completely different bootloader ;)) |
| 19:20.32 | drWyrM | :( it will be a pain if it only loads signed code. |
| 19:20.57 | drWyrM | but i was looking at apboot from E6, and it supports flashing without RDL. |
| 19:21.47 | robtaylor | cool :) |
| 19:22.39 | drWyrM | but if it flashes.. everything is possible. hehehe |
| 19:22.41 | dion | drWyrM: i think, that it's just check, that loader is correctly signed. but maybe phone can run unsigned code |
| 19:23.57 | drWyrM | pmarques: iirc kernel and userspace should use same abi. |
| 19:26.01 | pmarques | IIRC, when the kernel is compiled with EABI, it has an option to support non-EABI userspace at an extra cost per syscall... but I might be remembering wrong here |
| 19:26.32 | drWyrM | dion: i wish i could check that... ;) We will need to wait for pmarques.. He will check it soon or later when he gets bored of the motorola ezx 2.4. ;) |
| 19:26.42 | drWyrM | pmarques: you are right. |
| 19:28.24 | dion | as far as i remember from non-ezx phones, C380/C650 was with unsigned loadaer but with signed firmware code, RAZR V3 have signed loader and signed firmware.. So it's possible that motorola decide to sign kernel code |
| 19:28.30 | pmarques | I'm getting bored pretty fast ;) I'm just not trying it right now because I'm waiting for a call from my wife... this little computer sometimes as to be used as a phone, too ;) |
| 19:30.54 | dion | heh.. :) I have old Motorola C380 phone and use it as phone sometimes... |
| 19:31.21 | robtaylor | have any of you guys got pointers to pxa270 docs? |
| 19:33.05 | drWyrM | http://www.chipdocs.com/pnsearch/download.html?okwd=PXA270&partid=923355 |
| 19:34.08 | drWyrM | oops, i think this is paid now :( |
| 19:34.20 | robtaylor | drWyrM: yeah, electrical and thermal spes arent really that interesting though =) |
| 19:36.11 | drWyrM | hehehe, just saw what it is now. ;) |
| 19:39.29 | pmarques | ok, I have to go now... if I can find some time to try to "usb-boot" a 2.6 kernel tonight, I'll drop by to let you know how it went |
| 19:39.44 | robtaylor | pmarques: can't wait! |
| 19:46.14 | drWyrM | yes! We urgently need people working on phones other than a780/e680. :) |
| 19:50.26 | robtaylor | is the java 3d support on the a780 all done in software, or is there a graphics copro? |
| 19:53.34 | dion | https://opensource.motorola.com/sf/go/post2189 - maybe it's time to ping motorola again about camera? |
| 19:55.45 | ao2 | dion, let's wait 05/18, posting exactly a month later is prettier :) |
| 19:56.13 | dion | heh :) |
| 19:57.38 | robtaylor | dion: can't you just rewrite the confidential propriatary one? |
| 19:58.04 | robtaylor | dion: or better, write down how it works and get someone else to write it =) |
| 19:58.08 | koen | it it was in the "kernel source" it's GPL |
| 19:58.44 | robtaylor | koen: hmm, thats not really true |
| 19:59.13 | dion | robtaylor: i'm not kernel developer, i have no experience with kernel coding. But on my firmware this driver is compiled directly to kernel (not as module). And original kernel from motorola fails to compilee if i enable camera support for e680 |
| 19:59.41 | robtaylor | dion: yeah, they're breaking the terms of the GPL |
| 20:06.15 | drWyrM | bye all. |
| 20:06.53 | dion | drWyrM: bb |
| 20:09.21 | ao2 | bye drWyrM |
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