| 01:07.52 | *** join/#openezx chairuou|work (n=chairuou@202.53.198.112) |
| 02:17.21 | pigeon | hmm, got usbnet working with a a1200, but then i can't telnet in, seems telnetd not running or something, it pings ok... any ideas? |
| 05:17.47 | *** join/#openezx chairuou (n=chairuou@202.53.198.112) |
| 05:32.33 | *** join/#openezx chairuou|work (n=chairuou@unaffiliated/chairuou) |
| 05:57.15 | *** join/#openezx chairuou (n=chairuou@unaffiliated/chairuou) |
| 05:57.15 | *** join/#openezx pleemans (n=peter@d5152D19B.access.telenet.be) |
| 06:52.36 | *** join/#openezx dion (n=dion@inhex.net) |
| 07:15.28 | Hopscotch | good morning |
| 07:42.54 | *** join/#openezx koen (n=koen@dominion.kabel.utwente.nl) |
| 09:00.05 | *** join/#openezx florian (n=fuchs@217.146.132.69) |
| 09:07.47 | *** join/#openezx LoneStar (n=xinzhen@211.144.200.92) |
| 09:20.02 | florian | good morning |
| 09:28.50 | pigeon | g'day florian koen |
| 09:35.39 | florian | hi pigeon |
| 09:35.59 | *** join/#openezx chairuou|work (n=chairuou@202.53.198.112) |
| 09:48.48 | koen | hey pigeon |
| 09:50.55 | *** join/#openezx chairuou (n=chairuou@202.53.198.112) |
| 10:00.57 | *** join/#openezx chairuou|work (n=chairuou@unaffiliated/chairuou) |
| 10:31.05 | *** join/#openezx chairuou (n=chairuou@202.53.198.112) |
| 12:04.27 | *** join/#openezx drWyrM (n=c88e3026@207.250.49.25) |
| 15:06.21 | *** join/#openezx LoneStar (n=xinzhen@218.81.21.188) |
| 15:23.48 | *** join/#openezx TimRiker (n=timr@216.49.181.128) |
| 16:12.39 | *** join/#openezx dion (n=dion@inhex.net) |
| 16:22.03 | *** join/#openezx dion (n=dion@inhex.net) |
| 16:25.01 | *** join/#openezx jannu (n=jannu@hoas-fe34dd00-216.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 16:33.40 | *** join/#openezx TimRiker (n=timr@pdpc/supporter/bronze/TimRiker) |
| 17:02.02 | *** join/#openezx agd5f (n=deuchera@65.242.105.130) |
| 17:21.39 | *** join/#openezx goxboxlive (n=goxboxli@206.80-202-161.nextgentel.com) |
| 17:55.55 | *** part/#openezx dion (n=dion@inhex.net) |
| 18:00.52 | *** join/#openezx dion (n=dion@inhex.net) |
| 18:07.56 | *** join/#openezx pleemans (n=peter@d51A5E76A.access.telenet.be) |
| 18:48.48 | *** part/#openezx dion (n=dion@inhex.net) |
| 19:43.36 | *** join/#openezx florian (n=fuchs@84.245.185.29) |
| 19:46.20 | florian | re |
| 20:21.37 | *** join/#openezx dion (n=dion@inhex.net) |
| 20:38.25 | *** join/#openezx purl (i=ibot@pdpc/supporter/active/TimRiker/bot/apt) |
| 20:38.25 | *** topic/#openezx is OpenEZX Developer Lounge -- Open Source Software Stack for Motorola EZX phones -- http://openezx.org |
| 20:39.01 | *** join/#openezx goxboxlive (n=goxboxli@206.80-202-161.nextgentel.com) |
| 21:52.18 | stefan_schmidt | ah, back home. :) |
| 21:52.51 | florian | hi stefan_schmidt |
| 21:53.00 | stefan_schmidt | Should give me more time to work on OpenEZX again |
| 21:53.02 | florian | stefan_schmidt: congratulations |
| 21:53.03 | stefan_schmidt | hi florian |
| 21:53.23 | stefan_schmidt | florian: Not sure if the test was well, but at least it's done. :) |
| 21:53.30 | stefan_schmidt | florian: How is going? |
| 21:54.05 | florian | stefan_schmidt: too busy to make university tests :/ but apart from this pretty fine... |
| 21:54.15 | stefan_schmidt | florian: heh |
| 21:54.47 | stefan_schmidt | Next to the test I have done all the paperwork for going freelance next to my studies |
| 21:55.19 | stefan_schmidt | It's a lot new stuff I have to understand and work with. I hope it is worth. |
| 21:56.22 | stefan_schmidt | Anyway. Have to catch up with wyrms progress at the weekend |
| 21:56.55 | stefan_schmidt | If all is well I prepare ezx10. |
| 21:57.14 | stefan_schmidt | And we really should move to a newer kernel. |
| 22:02.02 | florian | stefan_schmidt: its not too difficult and i can say i like it :) |
| 22:03.02 | florian | stefan_schmidt: but most of the studying freelancers i know take much longer for their studies |
| 22:03.07 | stefan_schmidt | florian: Yeah, earning money for stuff you like to do is always good. It just has a big overhead in the beginning. Hopefully this is done in the next weeks |
| 22:03.47 | stefan_schmidt | florian: Also my fear. A bit longer is fine thought. I need to be carefully with this. :) |
| 22:05.23 | florian | stefan_schmidt: the overhead for starting is quite limited, but it requires some paperwork afterwards |
| 22:06.13 | stefan_schmidt | florian: Yeah, already at the paperwork. :) |
| 22:06.59 | florian | stefan_schmidt: yesss |
| 22:08.11 | florian | stefan_schmidt: filling out forms? |
| 22:08.50 | stefan_schmidt | florian: Mostly done. Tomorrow I'm at the "Finanzamt" |
| 22:09.26 | florian | stefan_schmidt: hmm... what do you do there? |
| 22:10.01 | florian | ah |
| 22:10.12 | stefan_schmidt | florian: Give forms and get "Steuernummer" and "USt ID" |
| 22:10.50 | florian | stefan_schmidt: ok, i had this one already... and USt ID is not essential. |
| 22:11.48 | stefan_schmidt | florian: If you prepare invoices to countries outside germany and like to declare taxes... |
| 22:12.11 | florian | stefan_schmidt: right, in this case it is quite useful to have |
| 22:14.04 | florian | stefan_schmidt: in some areas you have to declare vat every month for the first two years |
| 22:14.27 | alphaone | florian: It is for the first year here iirc. |
| 22:14.30 | stefan_schmidt | florian: Indeed I have to declare every month for the first year. |
| 22:14.55 | stefan_schmidt | alphaone: ah, you are also here |
| 22:15.05 | florian | when i started my business i had to declare it once a year |
| 22:15.07 | stefan_schmidt | alphaone: How is your guitar play going? |
| 22:15.18 | alphaone | stefan_schmidt: I'm always watching ;-) |
| 22:15.31 | stefan_schmidt | florian: Without USt ID you only need it once a year |
| 22:15.38 | alphaone | stefan_schmidt: Too good I fear. |
| 22:15.45 | stefan_schmidt | alphaone: As you domain says... |
| 22:15.51 | florian | stefan_schmidt: are you close enough to hear him? ;) |
| 22:16.01 | alphaone | I really got to get back to normal time management |
| 22:16.07 | stefan_schmidt | alphaone: Should I break the guitar to help you coding? |
| 22:16.19 | stefan_schmidt | florian: No |
| 22:16.22 | florian | stefan_schmidt: ok, that's different in nrw and rpf |
| 22:16.22 | alphaone | stefan_schmidt: Nah, I'll manage :-) |
| 22:16.34 | alphaone | That is just something I will have to learn |
| 22:17.12 | stefan_schmidt | florian: Ah, and of course it's a question how much you earn. "Kleinunternehmer" etc... |
| 22:17.28 | stefan_schmidt | alphaone: Just ask, I kick you |
| 22:17.31 | stefan_schmidt | alphaone: ;) |
| 22:17.39 | alphaone | No doubt about it |
| 22:17.52 | florian | stefan_schmidt: true, but you don't want to choose this option if you make business with companies |
| 22:17.56 | alphaone | You even do if I don't ask :-) |
| 22:18.08 | florian | stefan_schmidt: indeed... |
| 22:18.24 | stefan_schmidt | florian: Yeah, that why I choose USt ID as well |
| 22:19.05 | florian | stefan_schmidt: these are two options :) |
| 22:19.29 | stefan_schmidt | alphaone: Talking about time management and kicking you. What slot do you assigned for JTAG testing? |
| 22:19.49 | stefan_schmidt | florian: Right. No "Kleinunternehmer" and USt ID in my case |
| 22:19.50 | alphaone | stefan_schmidt: Elster seems pretty straightforward btw. As soon as you have your Tax Id you just apply for an account and they'll e- and snail-mail you your activation ID and key |
| 22:20.07 | stefan_schmidt | alphaone: cool |
| 22:20.34 | florian | Winston us quite useful :) |
| 22:20.40 | florian | s/us/is |
| 22:20.42 | alphaone | Certificates signed by Verizon.. |
| 22:20.58 | alphaone | florian: Winston was available for Linux, too? |
| 22:21.34 | florian | alphaone: yes... but closed source |
| 22:22.39 | florian | alphaone: works pretty well here... i used a commercial one before but that was discontinued and its usability crappy |
| 22:23.17 | alphaone | florian: *sigh* ... I already had a java program - "anmeldesteuer" trying to change something in my java security profiles... |
| 22:23.20 | florian | Germany sucks for these locked down Elster stuff. |
| 22:23.38 | alphaone | I'll try Winston then |
| 22:23.53 | alphaone | florian: Isn't the API publically specified? |
| 22:25.36 | florian | alphaone: iirc it was not that easy to get it |
| 22:25.42 | alphaone | florian: Elster seems to be some kind of XML? |
| 22:26.02 | florian | alphaone: i would have to ask nils, he tried to find out how all this works some time ago. |
| 22:26.26 | alphaone | florian: http://www.felfri.de/fa_xml/ |
| 22:26.44 | florian | alphaone: hmm... what stops people from implemmenting a free and usable application? |
| 22:27.19 | alphaone | florian: I don't know |
| 22:27.55 | alphaone | May be hackers just have better things to do than deal with this stuff in their free time :-) |
| 22:29.02 | florian | true |
| 22:30.11 | florian | alphaone: their licenses are quite cheap... sounds like the implementation is not too complicated ;) |
| 22:30.52 | alphaone | :-) |
| 22:32.39 | florian | alphaone: https://www.elster.de/ssl/index-entwickler.htm |
| 22:33.00 | florian | alphaone: that sounds like only some dll api is documented |
| 22:34.32 | alphaone | Yeah, it *does* sound like that... |
| 22:34.43 | alphaone | That is stupid |
| 22:35.10 | florian | I remember some curses about that... |
| 22:40.17 | *** part/#openezx agd5f (n=deuchera@65.242.105.130) |
| 23:07.45 | *** join/#openezx agd5f (n=alex@c-69-143-17-173.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |