| 00:01.21 | proberts | nh_work: What ROM version do you have in your E2? |
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| 01:38.30 | nh_home | hello all |
| 01:44.39 | jaebird | proberts: I have AP v45P and it has MPKG installer IIRC |
| 01:45.12 | nh_home | jaebird: played with the usb_boot stuff anymore? |
| 01:45.37 | jaebird | yeah i used the kernel from dotmonkey |
| 01:45.48 | nh_home | 2.6? |
| 01:45.49 | jaebird | it gets as far as rootfs and panics |
| 01:45.52 | jaebird | yes |
| 01:45.54 | nh_home | nice |
| 01:46.02 | jaebird | I don't have rootfs on my SD card yet |
| 01:46.09 | nh_home | yeah, I need to try that. |
| 01:46.14 | jaebird | but I have ext3 partitioned and the kernel found it fine |
| 01:46.35 | nh_home | I wonder if the opentapi stuff works. |
| 01:46.49 | jaebird | here is a cool site about multi-touch touch screens...http://cs.nyu.edu/~jhan/ftirtouch/ |
| 01:47.05 | jaebird | Jobs did NOT invent it |
| 01:47.21 | nh_home | jaebird: ah, talking about the iphone? :) |
| 01:47.33 | jaebird | yeah...i was scrolling through logs :) |
| 01:47.47 | nh_home | I'll have to look at them on my desktop machine. |
| 01:47.51 | nh_home | I just logged in with this account a bit ago. |
| 01:47.57 | jaebird | thought i'd throw this out there...saw them about 6-8 months ago |
| 01:48.27 | jaebird | nh_home: back to our discussion...with a rootfs we should be able to get shell |
| 01:48.45 | nh_home | jaebird: certainly. I'm curious if opentapi works. |
| 01:48.52 | jaebird | me too |
| 01:49.33 | jaebird | i'm wondering if the SD controller can handle SDHC cards |
| 01:49.43 | nh_home | jaebird: I'm not really a low level guy, but I would love to develop a phone interface for it if we can actually start making calls soon. |
| 01:49.53 | jaebird | Fry's had an 8G SD for 99 bucks |
| 01:50.03 | nh_home | I might have to start playing with evas. |
| 01:50.11 | nh_home | jaebird: wow |
| 01:50.30 | jaebird | nh_home: i'm not a low level kernel guy...but starting to get into it more |
| 01:50.34 | nh_home | jaebird: so far the 2.4 kernel can't do >2GB, but it can't even handle my 2GB card so who knows. |
| 01:51.10 | jaebird | nh_home: I got a bad (read fake) 2G SD card from ebay initially that did not work |
| 01:51.20 | jaebird | my lexar 2GB works great |
| 01:51.22 | nh_home | jaebird: I've done a bit of embedded work, but I'm not as good as proberts or dotmonkey. |
| 01:51.49 | nh_home | jaebird: my ritek doesn't work. It works fine in my palm pilot though. |
| 01:52.02 | jaebird | my embedded stuff was MOTO ASM 10 years ago :) |
| 01:52.24 | nh_home | jaebird: I did some embedded work for General Dynamics when I was in military contracting. Gladd I'm out. :) |
| 01:52.36 | jaebird | :) |
| 01:54.10 | jaebird | nh_home: i've got to find time to setup my machine to build for the EZX, so I don't have to wait for bins |
| 01:54.38 | jaebird | i did some work with rockbox and ipodlinux awhile back...no time! |
| 01:56.23 | nh_home | jaebird: yeah, I've been lazy and haven't setup a build environment either. |
| 01:56.29 | nh_home | well, been busy too. |
| 01:56.39 | nh_home | not totally lazyness. :) |
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| 07:57.41 | blkhawk[work] | lo |
| 08:02.55 | dion | hi all |
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| 12:35.39 | florian_kc | good morning |
| 12:52.19 | stefan_schmidt | morning florian_kc |
| 13:43.57 | florian_kc | The bootloader of my A1200 claims to be in "USB BP Pass Through Mode" |
| 13:47.33 | stefan_schmidt | florian_kc: nice. With the small passthrough.bin from svn? |
| 13:48.19 | florian_kc | no, pressing the right key in flash mode |
| 13:48.32 | stefan_schmidt | interesting |
| 13:49.02 | stefan_schmidt | like to add it to the wiki? |
| 13:49.30 | florian_kc | sure i'm onit |
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| 14:14.10 | stefan_schmidt | florian_kc: It works also on E2. Just press again the camera button again |
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| 14:23.50 | stefan_schmidt | florian_kc: What's you USB ID's? 22b8:4903 here |
| 14:25.38 | stefan_schmidt | Changed from 22b8:3006 in the A780/E680 series. |
| 14:26.03 | stefan_schmidt | But it makes sense as they also changes the normal bootloader ID between the series. |
| 14:34.45 | florian_kc | i'll chack as soon as i found a kernel for the a1200 to test |
| 14:44.47 | stefan_schmidt | ? |
| 14:44.48 | stefan_schmidt | you don't need a kernel for it |
| 14:44.50 | stefan_schmidt | I just like to know the ID lsusb display when in passthrough mode |
| 14:47.10 | florian_kc | stefan_schmidt: i need a kernel for it now ;) |
| 14:47.31 | florian_kc | (independent from the usb id) |
| 14:51.06 | stefan_schmidt | ah, ok |
| 14:51.11 | stefan_schmidt | 2.4 or 2.6 |
| 14:52.10 | florian_kc | 22b8:6023 is the ap and 22b8:4903 bp |
| 14:52.23 | florian_kc | stefan_schmidt: both preferrably :-) |
| 14:52.45 | florian_kc | i want to start creating a developer image for these |
| 14:52.58 | stefan_schmidt | ok, same id's here. |
| 14:53.38 | koen | the "let's wait for other people to add a recipe for mkphone" plan doesn't seem to be working |
| 14:53.48 | koen | ~stab WebKit |
| 14:53.50 | purl | ACTION runs at WebKit with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 14:54.06 | florian_kc | heh+ |
| 14:54.28 | florian_kc | koen: i'll do as soon as i see gpe on the a1200 here :-) |
| 14:54.39 | koen | webkit suffers from the same makefile retardedness as gpe |
| 14:54.53 | koen | you have to checkout the whole tree to get the top makefile :( |
| 14:56.10 | florian_kc | right.. we need to fix this for the rest of gpe |
| 14:57.07 | stefan_schmidt | florian_kc: You like to compile the kernel yourself or use a precompiled one? |
| 14:57.34 | florian_kc | stefan_schmidt: for testing a precompiled one would be fine |
| 14:59.50 | stefan_schmidt | florian_kc: Try the rokr-e2 image from koen's angstrom build: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/20070104/rokr-e2/zImage-2.6.19+2.6.20-rc2-rokr-e2-20070105124113.bin |
| 15:00.10 | stefan_schmidt | If this not work I can give you a hand in the evening. |
| 15:01.39 | florian_kc | ok, works... |
| 15:02.08 | Shoragan | is the screen ok? |
| 15:02.29 | florian_kc | i have a framebuffer... and it complains about not beeing able to mount / |
| 15:02.59 | florian_kc | Shoragan: not really, the text is green |
| 15:03.05 | stefan_schmidt | florian_kc: yeah, there are still some problems. |
| 15:03.16 | stefan_schmidt | florian_kc: That's normal. Same on E2 |
| 15:03.18 | Shoragan | i don't know how koen's kernel is configured, but it may be possible to use the sd card as rootfs |
| 15:03.40 | koen | I think it looks the mmcblo0p1 |
| 15:03.47 | stefan_schmidt | I still have problems with rootfs on SD on the E2. |
| 15:03.48 | koen | blk* |
| 15:04.11 | stefan_schmidt | yep, it looks at the right place, but still problems. |
| 15:04.23 | stefan_schmidt | I don't have the error on hand |
| 15:05.31 | florian_kc | koen: it does |
| 15:06.13 | florian_kc | hrm... where are all the microsd cards?! |
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| 15:40.08 | florian_kc | koen: is mmc support in your kernel? |
| 15:40.31 | koen | florian_kc: no idea, I used dotmonkeys config |
| 15:40.36 | koen | florian_kc: it's all in OE :) |
| 15:40.40 | florian_kc | ok |
| 15:58.39 | florian_kc | for some reason it does nit seem to be able to open mmcblk0p1 |
| 15:59.20 | koen | florian_kc: feel free to check in a better defconfig :) |
| 15:59.35 | koen | try with rootdelay=2 in CONFIG_CMDLINE |
| 16:00.28 | florian_kc | the default is 5.. but i don't see any mmc related messages there. |
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| 16:05.19 | florian_kc | pxa mmc/sd support is on as well |
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| 16:48.31 | dion | florian_kc: you see I/O errors? |
| 16:49.37 | florian_kc | dion: no |
| 16:50.25 | dion | i got a lot of i/o errors with 1gb SD card.. solution was just force to use 512 bytes block size |
| 16:50.39 | florian_kc | dion: it behaves like the kernel had no mmc support |
| 16:51.49 | florian_kc | are we able to build the 2.4 kernel for the a1200? |
| 16:52.28 | koen | florian_kc: the source is available, but I don't think anyone has tried compiling it |
| 16:52.42 | dion | florian_kc: i use config from ezx patchset but compile as modules as many stuff as possible, because i tried to flash kernel |
| 16:52.46 | dion | florian_kc: i don't know about this.. |
| 16:53.47 | dion | stefan_schmidt share 2.4 selfcompiled kernel for e680. with disabled splash screen |
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| 18:41.32 | wataku | hi |
| 18:42.00 | nh_work | wataku: heya, I missed your question yesterday. I have 33p on my phone. |
| 18:43.14 | proberts | ok .. that's the same as I have on the first one, and it seems to work a little better than the others I tried yesterday (41P, 43P, 45P) ... I wish I could find a 33P flash file. |
| 18:43.18 | proberts | thanks |
| 18:43.34 | nh_work | proberts: interesting. |
| 18:43.55 | nh_work | proberts: seems like most people feel 33p is more buggy. |
| 18:44.44 | proberts | The others either didn't recognize mpkg files, or the install failed. Maybe 33P is just more forgiving. |
| 18:45.01 | nh_work | hrm |
| 18:46.15 | proberts | Do any of the EZX phones have WiFi? The libezxappbase.so has a bunch of WiFi routines. |
| 18:48.06 | stefan_schmidt | proberts: I heard of phone with wifi plans, but never see one. |
| 18:51.25 | proberts | Looks like there's a whole set of control routines for wifi. Wifi would be great to have! |
| 18:51.52 | proberts | Well, probably not with EZX, but with OpenEZX and a nice SIP client! |
| 18:51.57 | proberts | :) |
| 18:52.42 | stefan_schmidt | heh |
| 18:52.46 | stefan_schmidt | http://wiki.openezx.org/A910 |
| 18:52.53 | stefan_schmidt | That's the one I mean |
| 18:53.29 | proberts | D'oh - I searched the wiki for wifi, but not 802.11 |
| 18:54.21 | proberts | I was actually trying to find an A910 for sale somewhere, but it looks like only some review hardware was sent out- no commercial release? |
| 18:57.51 | proberts | (or any other EZX phone with a keypad) |
| 19:00.37 | stefan_schmidt | It really seems they never released the A910. I'm not aware of another EZX phone with wlan |
| 19:01.21 | proberts | I wonder if that lib and those routines are unique to Chameleon or are on all the EZX phones. |
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| 19:36.36 | proberts | Anyone know if MontaVista is compliant with the GPL? |
| 19:40.08 | florian | proberts: i'm pretty sure they are not ;) |
| 19:40.22 | koen | the question is: "are MV's costumers compliant with the GPL?" |
| 19:41.19 | proberts | If MontaVista is distributing GPL software, aren't they also responsible for making what they distribute available? |
| 19:41.28 | florian | i'm not sure if that covers everything |
| 19:41.34 | proberts | (at least the GPL parts of it) |
| 20:18.14 | stefan_schmidt | florian: Still want to talk about kernel for A1200? |
| 20:28.59 | florian | sure :) |
| 20:29.05 | florian | one sec |
| 20:31.37 | florian | i had to finish a phone call... |
| 20:34.02 | florian | now i only need a little bit of free space on my desk to put devices on |
| 20:38.53 | stefan_schmidt | heh |
| 20:40.45 | stefan_schmidt | OK, I give you first some infos as overview. |
| 20:41.24 | stefan_schmidt | 1. I was not able to produce a working zImage from the A1200 kernel source yet. But only spent little time on it. |
| 20:41.44 | stefan_schmidt | 2. I was able to boot a 2.4 from E680 sources on it. |
| 20:42.19 | stefan_schmidt | 3. I was _not_ able to boot our standard 2.6 ezx7 kernel on it. |
| 20:42.40 | stefan_schmidt | 4. I was able to boot a 2.6.20-rc2 with the patches from dotmonkey. |
| 20:43.37 | stefan_schmidt | 5. This one goes into userspace, but has no pxa_udc |
| 20:44.16 | stefan_schmidt | 6. I merged dotmonkeys changes into ezx7 to get pxa_udc an all the other stuff. |
| 20:45.27 | stefan_schmidt | 7. With this setup the kernel boots, buts panics with udc enabled. Also it panics without udc an sd stuff. |
| 20:45.34 | florian | ok, that doesn't sound too bad :-) |
| 20:45.54 | stefan_schmidt | That's all I have so far. All on E2 as I don't have a A1200 to test. |
| 20:46.21 | stefan_schmidt | But booth devices seems pretty similar, except the trouchscreen. |
| 20:46.27 | stefan_schmidt | touchscreen even |
| 20:46.32 | florian | i was able to compile the 2.4 kernel for it but it doesn't work... looks like some binary data ends up in the framebuffer |
| 20:46.52 | stefan_schmidt | Try to boot a 2.4 for A780 |
| 20:47.22 | florian | the E2 2.6 boots but doesn't seem to detect any mmc/sd hardware |
| 20:47.48 | florian | (not sure which one - whatever koen built for Angstrom) |
| 20:48.15 | stefan_schmidt | that's 2.6.20-rc2 |
| 20:48.17 | florian | stefan_schmidt: this one starts but the framebuffer is broken |
| 20:48.28 | stefan_schmidt | hmm, ok |
| 20:49.02 | stefan_schmidt | the one with broken fb is 2.4 a780? or 2.6? |
| 20:50.34 | florian | that was 2.4 - 2.6 for a780 i didn't try so far. |
| 20:52.49 | stefan_schmidt | 2.6 for a780 don't worked for me so far |
| 20:53.14 | stefan_schmidt | So what's your goal for now? 2.4 with sd support? |
| 20:56.30 | florian | hmm... that't might be the easiest for now - but 2.6 would be better :-) |
| 20:56.58 | stefan_schmidt | 2.6 with sd but without BP :) |
| 20:58.34 | florian | sounds like we really need to help with the 2.6 bp work :-) |
| 20:59.23 | stefan_schmidt | give us, alphaone, Shoragan and me, some more time. |
| 20:59.51 | stefan_schmidt | We had cold, uni starts again and other stuff. But promise to work on it again. :) |
| 21:00.24 | florian | ok, what can i do? helping with uni stuff? babysitting? ;) |
| 21:00.57 | stefan_schmidt | heh, thanks. |
| 21:01.25 | stefan_schmidt | Just the usual reallife problems which comes over us from time to time. |
| 21:04.48 | florian | i would need someone who volunteers to fix the printers of all my relatives ;) |
| 21:05.22 | stefan_schmidt | hmm, just a thought about 2.4 kernel. Could be worth to try the ao2's patchset for 2.4 He integrated the sd stuff from mot into this patchset. |
| 21:05.55 | stefan_schmidt | Don't ask me about printers. Today I had to fix printer setup on 98SE for my parents. horror. |
| 21:06.58 | florian | :-) |
| 21:07.04 | florian | but yes, that's a good idea |
| 21:16.07 | florian | where do we have that patchset? |
| 21:19.55 | stefan_schmidt | people,openezx.org/ao2/ |
| 21:20.03 | stefan_schmidt | s/,/./ |
| 21:23.03 | florian | thanks |
| 21:27.04 | stefan_schmidt | heh |
| 21:46.48 | florian | ok, most of the patche s don't apply here... e.g. latest a1200 kernel includes mmc already |
| 21:47.14 | stefan_schmidt | ah, ok |
| 21:47.35 | stefan_schmidt | Try to build the e680 kernel where the patchset is for. |
| 21:47.52 | stefan_schmidt | http://wiki.openezx.org/Kernel_hacking_-_linux-2.4 |
| 21:51.14 | florian | well.. some we don't need and some i managed to apply... so lets try it :-) |
| 21:52.06 | stefan_schmidt | ok |
| 21:52.07 | stefan_schmidt | :) |
| 21:52.56 | florian | i guess we need to fix do_mounts.c to support mmc, but iirc that was easy |
| 21:54.27 | florian | cute... we have: |
| 21:54.29 | florian | usb_device_state_t |
| 21:54.43 | florian | and |
| 21:54.45 | florian | usb_device_status_t |
| 21:59.27 | koen | and ubs_device_status_t? |
| 22:04.07 | florian | :-) |
| 22:11.11 | florian | but usbd_bus_state_t |
| 22:32.39 | agd5f | has motorola posted the source for the e6 yet? |
| 22:34.13 | stefan_schmidt | nothing on opensource.motorola.com yet |
| 22:42.37 | florian | nasty... no usb_for_mux_tty() in the a1200 kernel |
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| 23:08.36 | florian | stefan_schmidt: ok, the a1200 kernel gives me just colourful snow again |
| 23:08.50 | stefan_schmidt | sigh |
| 23:09.11 | stefan_schmidt | you used the deafult config for hainan? |
| 23:09.21 | stefan_schmidt | s/deafult/default/ |
| 23:12.52 | florian | yep... i even used the setup script... |
| 23:14.34 | stefan_schmidt | sigh again. The tarbals they deliver are mostly crap. :( |
| 23:16.20 | florian | "Discontiguous memory nodes" sounds scary |
| 23:26.40 | florian | i wonder if i need a spacial compiler for this crap... |
| 23:27.00 | stefan_schmidt | don't think so |
| 23:27.25 | florian | unluckily my build machine with the montavista-compatible compiler is at kc and turned off |
| 23:27.27 | stefan_schmidt | 'just' the right config and perhaps small patches |
| 23:51.21 | florian | stop me if i start to insult Motorola ;) |
| 23:51.37 | stefan_schmidt | heh |
| 23:58.04 | florian | do we have a source of this Foxconn connector for the debug port? |
| 23:59.13 | stefan_schmidt | Harald has talked to some company about samples. As far as I know we don't have them yet. |
| 23:59.39 | florian | ah too bad.. |