| 00:02.18 | stefan_schmidt | night all |
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| 10:21.45 | florian_kc | good monring |
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| 12:02.31 | stefan_schmidt | proberts: It's seems you make nice progress with your project. :) |
| 12:05.14 | ao2 | what's the project about? |
| 12:16.30 | yang | stefan_schmidt: are you going to update http://wiki.openezx.org/Project_Status anytime soon? |
| 12:18.10 | stefan_schmidt | yang: When We have updates, yes. Something already outdated? |
| 12:18.56 | stefan_schmidt | ao2: proberts is working on something what uses sound and fb on th ROKR E2. |
| 12:19.28 | ao2 | ah, any link? |
| 12:19.38 | yang | stefan_schmidt: ok, I thought there were some new things added, since oct. |
| 12:22.08 | stefan_schmidt | yang: I'm sorry, but no. We still work on it. Some of the bugs needs more thinking. |
| 12:22.25 | stefan_schmidt | ao2: I think it'S internal right now. |
| 12:22.26 | yang | ok sure, no hurry |
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| 14:11.39 | robtaylor | | checking for mutexes... (cached) no |
| 14:11.39 | robtaylor | | configure: error: Unknown mutex interface: no |
| 14:11.50 | robtaylor | in db-native-4.3.29-r7 |
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| 14:12.02 | robtaylor | anyone got any clues? |
| 14:13.05 | florian_kc | robtaylor: you produce funky errors, how do you do that? :-) |
| 14:13.23 | robtaylor | florian_kc: its my reality distortion field =) |
| 14:13.44 | robtaylor | this is actually the 1st real one, the others were my machine having leprosy |
| 14:14.27 | robtaylor | florian_kc: where's teh config cache stored? |
| 14:14.37 | robtaylor | i've completely forgotton |
| 14:17.15 | robtaylor | mm,oh, thats *native* |
| 14:17.16 | robtaylor | wtf |
| 14:17.45 | florian_kc | some config* whatever |
| 14:19.42 | robtaylor | i'm a little weirded, its saying (cached), there no config.cache, and no -C arg to configure |
| 14:19.46 | robtaylor | weiiird |
| 14:21.02 | florian_kc | maybe in some site file... or builtin ;) |
| 14:21.40 | robtaylor | configure:1434: loading site script /home/robtaylor/projects/oe/org.openembedded.dev/site/arm-linux |
| 14:21.44 | robtaylor | ahhh |
| 14:21.47 | robtaylor | that'll be the issue |
| 14:24.15 | robtaylor | doh |
| 14:29.57 | wmat | you guys use Digg? |
| 14:30.11 | wmat | ooops, wrong window, sorry. |
| 14:32.56 | robtaylor | florian_kc: yeah it was because i had CONFIG_SITE set in my environ, so this time it was me with leprosy ;) |
| 14:33.34 | florian_kc | :-) |
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| 19:26.25 | robtaylor | so. anyone got advice on the best way to flash an a780? |
| 19:26.35 | robtaylor | (with the oe image) |
| 19:27.33 | florian_kc | ezxflash |
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| 19:29.40 | robtaylor | florian_kc: can i expect that a gpe-image build will just work? :) |
| 19:30.37 | florian_kc | robtaylor: no idea, but i guess so... limited by what the kernel can do of course |
| 19:36.14 | robtaylor | ok, i'll just give it a try then :) |
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| 20:19.52 | stefan_schmidt | Suggestions for JTAG software on linux? |
| 20:20.08 | stefan_schmidt | I'll use a wiggler JTAG adapter. |
| 20:20.16 | stefan_schmidt | http://openwince.sourceforge.net/jtag/ |
| 20:20.51 | stefan_schmidt | Looks good, but has no pxa27x. Just not up-to-date? |
| 20:22.48 | [g2] | stefan_schmidt for the PXA270 ? |
| 20:23.16 | stefan_schmidt | [g2]: Yes, for the E680 |
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| 20:27.25 | [g2] | vmaster wrote OpenOCD that already supports ARM7/ARM9 and he's been adding XScale support over the last couple months |
| 20:27.42 | florian_kc | bbl |
| 20:27.56 | [g2] | the dongle I've got is a pretty high-speed dongle clock-rate aroud 8.3Mhz |
| 20:28.22 | [g2] | we were trying to bring up the XScale yesterday |
| 20:28.43 | florian_kc | stefan_schmidt: Check the patches, there is one for the 27x, i had this combination running already. |
| 20:28.52 | [g2] | stefan_schmidt are you looking simply for flashing or do you want to do hw debugging also ? |
| 20:29.43 | stefan_schmidt | florian_kc: ACK |
| 20:29.56 | florian_kc | now really |
| 20:29.57 | stefan_schmidt | [g2]: Ah, I heared about OpenOCD before. |
| 20:30.34 | stefan_schmidt | [g2]: I like to start with flashing, but perhaps also hardware debugging is needed later. |
| 20:30.41 | [g2] | there are some USB dongles (and parallel) that work it also |
| 20:31.09 | stefan_schmidt | [g2]: Yes, I read about USB. Very pricy. |
| 20:31.31 | [g2] | stefan_schmidt $69 isn't very pricey |
| 20:32.06 | [g2] | $2500 for an abitron that's pricey IMHO |
| 20:39.14 | stefan_schmidt | re |
| 20:39.46 | stefan_schmidt | [g2]: hmm, $69 is not bad. I only found USB JTAG > 120$ |
| 20:44.04 | stefan_schmidt | ah, OpenOCD supports the wiggler. I should take a closer look |
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| 20:54.13 | [g2] | stefan_schmidt I hear the olimex usb devices are ok. We should check with vmaster if they'll fully support the XScale debugging |
| 20:54.48 | [g2] | if you want one lemme know I'll paypal you the $80ish to get one |
| 20:55.14 | [g2] | did you grab the Xscale trunk ? |
| 20:55.21 | stefan_schmidt | no |
| 20:55.28 | stefan_schmidt | just trunk |
| 20:56.00 | [g2] | you'll want the XScale branch |
| 20:56.07 | [g2] | at least for debugging |
| 20:56.10 | stefan_schmidt | stupid question, but is pxa27x Xscale? |
| 20:56.16 | [g2] | yes |
| 20:56.31 | stefan_schmidt | thanks |
| 20:56.37 | [g2] | np. |
| 20:56.47 | [g2] | vmaster is in DE |
| 20:57.04 | stefan_schmidt | I just saw it. |
| 20:57.33 | [g2] | he's not at the keyboard, but I'll get him in here later (probably tomorrow) |
| 20:57.52 | [g2] | I'll get you guys hooked up and intro'd |
| 20:58.11 | stefan_schmidt | that would be nice. |
| 20:59.05 | stefan_schmidt | Have you a link for the USB JTAG adapter? |
| 21:04.20 | [g2] | stefan_schmidt I don't know the EU distribs, I'll give you a sparkfun link in a second |
| 21:04.25 | stefan_schmidt | ok, xscale branch builds fine |
| 21:04.38 | stefan_schmidt | btw, thanks for the offer to paypal me the money for the adapter. (I read it just now) |
| 21:05.19 | stefan_schmidt | Is there a big difference between par and usb in speed and function? |
| 21:06.12 | [g2] | http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=7834 |
| 21:07.00 | [g2] | stefan_schmidt the parallel are quite cheap but very slow |
| 21:07.31 | [g2] | it was taking the nslu2-linux guys like 40-50 minute to reflash 256K RedBoot on the NSLU2 |
| 21:07.58 | stefan_schmidt | oh, that slow. |
| 21:08.22 | [g2] | about 2 years I said we should an "openJTAG" and that channel was started and we talked a lot and did very little hw |
| 21:08.39 | stefan_schmidt | even a usb-serial included. nice |
| 21:09.04 | [g2] | a problem is bit a clocked on a long scan chain. iirc the IXP42x is 498 bits long |
| 21:09.34 | [g2] | so to clock out 1 pulse to the flash, you've got to clock in 500 bits |
| 21:09.56 | stefan_schmidt | make sense |
| 21:10.37 | [g2] | so there's a short-hand of clocking like 40 bits and writing to the on-board Cache |
| 21:11.15 | [g2] | by doing something like filling the cache and writing a tiny program you could really speed things up |
| 21:11.21 | [g2] | even with parallel |
| 21:11.44 | [g2] | we've done that with a USB adapter before |
| 21:12.14 | [g2] | so something like the APEX bootloader at 14K in a small config could fit entirely in the cache |
| 21:12.38 | [g2] | breath it in, start the processor and wake up at serial in a bootloader |
| 21:12.48 | stefan_schmidt | nice |
| 21:12.56 | [g2] | then DL over serial to memory and flash from memory |
| 21:13.18 | stefan_schmidt | http://www.olimex.com/dev/index.html |
| 21:15.03 | [g2] | stefan_schmidt yeah they make the USB OpenOCD debugger that Sparkfun sells (along with a lot of little embedded boards) |
| 21:15.56 | stefan_schmidt | [g2]: hmm, that could be interesting. |
| 21:16.28 | letoto | is this to try and have the motorola AP to to a custom arm instead of the BP ? |
| 21:16.44 | stefan_schmidt | I think I accept you offer. |
| 21:17.12 | stefan_schmidt | letoto: No, I like to debug the handshake problem. |
| 21:17.36 | letoto | so same problem? :) this is the 30s shutdown issue? |
| 21:18.15 | stefan_schmidt | letoto: yes |
| 21:18.52 | [g2] | stefan_schmidt OK super. Lets just check with vmaster about the PXA support. I think he's already got a PXA25x board |
| 21:18.55 | letoto | cool. |
| 21:19.21 | letoto | there is no way to eavesdrop on this using the motorola kernel/firmware? |
| 21:25.02 | stefan_schmidt | letoto: yes, I'll try that first. |
| 21:26.05 | stefan_schmidt | letoto: I'm not sure if a really need JTAG for this bug, but somebody needs to figure the JTAG stuff on the phones out anyway |
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| 21:40.27 | stefan_schmidt | hi blkhawk |
| 21:50.18 | blkhawk | hey ;) |
| 21:50.23 | blkhawk | say |
| 21:50.41 | blkhawk | do you have any idea how to inject raw PCM data into a stream? |
| 21:50.54 | stefan_schmidt | sorry, no |
| 21:51.10 | blkhawk | ah |
| 21:51.14 | blkhawk | dang |
| 21:53.28 | letoto | blkhawk: can't cat onto /dev/dsp ? |
| 21:57.36 | blkhawk | letoto: well no the server has none |
| 21:58.00 | letoto | ohh on the server |
| 21:58.37 | blkhawk | yesss |
| 21:58.37 | letoto | you;d have to mix the streams together. that's hard work. Asterisk can do it. it does it for the conferencing |
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| 21:58.45 | blkhawk | its something tts related |
| 21:59.16 | blkhawk | yes but asterisk is the wrong app there |
| 21:59.42 | blkhawk | i might want to mix in skype sources too |
| 21:59.47 | letoto | maybe you can use an asterisk library. i dont know |
| 21:59.58 | letoto | well, first hack skype protocol then :) |
| 22:00.08 | letoto | have fun avoiding the boobytraps while gdb'ing |
| 22:01.02 | blkhawk | well I have everything working already |
| 22:01.02 | stefan_schmidt | heh |
| 22:01.12 | blkhawk | I a mixing several streams |
| 22:01.57 | blkhawk | the problem is that one souce is all raw wave and all i get is gobblygook |
| 22:02.14 | blkhawk | this is driving me nuts |
| 22:02.29 | letoto | you have skype clients connecting to you and can grab audio? |
| 22:02.34 | letoto | that's impressive |
| 22:02.40 | letoto | why havent i seen a talk on this? :) |
| 22:02.42 | blkhawk | letoto: no |
| 22:02.56 | blkhawk | I mix streams - ogg and mp3 streams |
| 22:03.14 | blkhawk | i mix in TTS in raw wave form |
| 22:03.22 | blkhawk | from cepstral and festival sources |
| 22:03.41 | blkhawk | the glue is python, jackd and oddcastv3 |
| 22:03.42 | letoto | Adult market? :) |
| 22:03.46 | blkhawk | O_o |
| 22:03.53 | blkhawk | nope....... |
| 22:04.11 | blkhawk | I don't quite get that idea |
| 22:04.21 | blkhawk | but there is money there..... hmmmm |
| 22:04.33 | blkhawk | why do you say adult market? |
| 22:05.01 | letoto | i figured manipulating so much audio streaming stuff is either porn or secret services :) |
| 22:05.12 | letoto | and if you were secret services, you wouldnt be tlaking here :) |
| 22:05.37 | blkhawk | actually i am planing to plug the service into MMO games |
| 22:05.50 | blkhawk | starting with Second Life |
| 22:05.58 | letoto | ahh cool |
| 22:06.32 | blkhawk | basically in goes text over a relay |
| 22:06.53 | blkhawk | out comes nice structured speech with a different voice for each speaker |
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| 22:16.14 | [g2] | vmaster welcome! |
| 22:16.17 | vmaster | hey [g2] |
| 22:16.22 | [g2] | stefan_schmidt ping |
| 22:16.44 | [g2] | vmaster I wanted you to meet stefan_schmidt |
| 22:17.17 | stefan_schmidt | hi vmaster |
| 22:17.19 | [g2] | stefan_schmidt is in .de somewhere and has been one of the main hacker on openezx over the last year |
| 22:17.29 | vmaster | hey stefan_schmidt |
| 22:17.37 | stefan_schmidt | vmaster: Braunschweig/Hannover |
| 22:18.09 | vmaster | ah, ok, i'm from (or close to) Augsburg |
| 22:18.30 | [g2] | vmaster stefan_schmidt's development phone is an E680 which is pxa270 based I think |
| 22:18.45 | stefan_schmidt | [g2]: right |
| 22:18.55 | stefan_schmidt | bulverde chip |
| 22:18.58 | [g2] | he's getting ready to reflash it and needs some JTAG lov'in :) |
| 22:19.27 | vmaster | heh, is there a JTAG port on these phones? |
| 22:19.33 | [g2] | I suggested OpenOCD and possibly the Olimex USB device |
| 22:19.49 | [g2] | vmaster with some soldering :) |
| 22:20.15 | stefan_schmidt | vmaster: There are testpads. |
| 22:20.36 | stefan_schmidt | Should be JTAG and uart |
| 22:20.58 | stefan_schmidt | 'Just' need to figure out which pads are which. |
| 22:20.59 | vmaster | ok, you'll need to identify TCK, TMS, TDI, TDO, nTRST and nSRST |
| 22:21.19 | stefan_schmidt | somekind of best pratice for this? |
| 22:21.19 | vmaster | TDO is High-Z when the JTAG port is idle |
| 22:21.34 | vmaster | but you never know what kind of pull-up/downs there are on your board |
| 22:23.42 | [g2] | vmaster I was going to sponsor stefan_schmidt with an Olimex USB adapter. Does that make sense to you ? |
| 22:24.34 | vmaster | yeah, sure - the Olimex adapters are reasonably priced, and work well |
| 22:24.59 | vmaster | the JTAGkey Tiny from Amontec would be an alternative - even cheaper, and "sweet" |
| 22:25.02 | [g2] | that's what I've heard, but you are the master :) |
| 22:25.35 | [g2] | vmaster I don't know what they cost from Olimex, but they are only $69 from sparkfun |
| 22:25.49 | [g2] | I was guessing $80US would just about do it |
| 22:26.29 | vmaster | hmm, mikrocontroller.net is a german distributor for Olimex, that would save on shipping costs |
| 22:26.47 | vmaster | does sfe have the ARM-USB-OCD in stock? |
| 22:27.07 | vmaster | ah, yeah, they have them again |
| 22:27.14 | vmaster | they were sold out for more than a month |
| 22:27.49 | [g2] | vmaster nod, I think getting one in the EU makes much more sense |
| 22:28.57 | vmaster | they're charging EUR69.90 + EUR5 for shipping |
| 22:29.13 | vmaster | at the current exchange rate it might be cheaper sending one from the u.s. |
| 22:29.33 | stefan_schmidt | ~charge 69 USD to EUR |
| 22:29.43 | vmaster | JTAGKey-Tiny is EUR29 |
| 22:29.51 | vmaster | not sure what they're charging for shipping |
| 22:30.07 | stefan_schmidt | 10$-26$ |
| 22:30.18 | stefan_schmidt | depend on how fast you like to have |
| 22:31.42 | stefan_schmidt | vmaster: hmm, I don't find JTAGKey-Tiny at mikrocontroller.net |
| 22:32.02 | vmaster | stefan_schmidt: the jtagkey-tiny is only available directly from amontec.com afaik |
| 22:32.10 | stefan_schmidt | ah |
| 22:32.11 | [g2] | the JTAGKey-tiny looks interesting |
| 22:32.37 | [g2] | I could probably use that with the tiny ARMs (LPCs() |
| 22:33.00 | stefan_schmidt | it really tiny |
| 22:34.06 | stefan_schmidt | vmaster: is the JTAGKey-tiny as good support as the one from omniplex? |
| 22:34.19 | [g2] | amonted |
| 22:34.25 | [g2] | doh!... amontec |
| 22:34.54 | [g2] | heh omniplex :) |
| 22:35.23 | vmaster | support? guess that's me then ;) |
| 22:35.47 | stefan_schmidt | ups, olimex |
| 22:36.09 | vmaster | both devices are very similar |
| 22:36.18 | vmaster | a FT2232 + voltage converters |
| 22:36.28 | vmaster | the Olimex ARM-USB-OCD offers an additional RS232 port |
| 22:36.31 | stefan_schmidt | shipping for the tiny is from 22,8 Euro to 39 EUR |
| 22:36.32 | [g2] | vmaster I think stefan_schmidt means do both dongles work equally well |
| 22:36.51 | [g2] | are they feature compatible with OpenOCD |
| 22:37.10 | stefan_schmidt | vmaster: I have an usb-serial adapter already |
| 22:37.26 | vmaster | they both work fine with the OpenOCD |
| 22:37.45 | vmaster | guess you should buy the one that gets cheaper with taxes and shipping |
| 22:37.48 | stefan_schmidt | ~charge 51.8 EUR to USD |
| 22:38.00 | [g2] | ~change 69 USD to EUR |
| 22:38.09 | stefan_schmidt | aaargh |
| 22:38.33 | [g2] | ~change 52 EUR to USD |
| 22:39.17 | stefan_schmidt | so, the tiny is even cheaper with shipping |
| 22:40.21 | [g2] | vmaster how does the tiny's speed when flashing compare to a parallel port adapter ? |
| 22:41.00 | vmaster | i only measure downloading to RAM, flashing is about 1/2 to 2/3 of that |
| 22:41.11 | vmaster | using a Wiggler I get about 16kB/s |
| 22:41.24 | vmaster | using the GW dongle I get ~60kB/s |
| 22:41.30 | vmaster | using the FT2232 I get ~120kB/s |
| 22:42.14 | [g2] | the |
| 22:42.25 | [g2] | the tiny is FT2232 based right ? |
| 22:42.29 | vmaster | yeah |
| 22:42.53 | [g2] | super |
| 22:43.25 | vmaster | there are three (four) commercial FT2232 based adapters: JTAGKey(-Tiny), ARM-USB-OCD and Signalyzer |
| 22:43.33 | [g2] | vmaster so how feasible do you think it would be to load a cut down APEX directly into the cache and then let it run ? and wake up at the serial prompt ? |
| 22:44.36 | [g2] | stefan_schmidt APEX is an ARM based bootloader that runs on the IXP4xx and some other ARM chips |
| 22:45.02 | vmaster | you have 2kB mini-ICache, and you can't access that memory as data - i.e. loading a 32-bit constant takes 4 instructions |
| 22:45.04 | [g2] | I guess we'd just need a PXA270 port |
| 22:45.06 | stefan_schmidt | [g2]: yeah, I heared about APEX before. |
| 22:45.42 | vmaster | is there RAM on that board? |
| 22:45.48 | vmaster | s/board/phone/ |
| 22:46.06 | [g2] | a bunch :) |
| 22:46.35 | vmaster | you can use the OpenOCD to set up the PLL and SDRAM configuration registers to enable it |
| 22:46.43 | vmaster | then you can load whatever you want into SDRAM |
| 22:46.44 | [g2] | vmaster I'm guessing you are thinking dl'ing straight into RARM right ? |
| 22:46.51 | [g2] | s/RARM/RAM/ |
| 22:47.09 | vmaster | yeah - as I see it there's zero benefit from downloading to the ICache |
| 22:47.16 | vmaster | and lots of trouble |
| 22:47.57 | [g2] | vmaster nod. Ok, except for test fixture at the contract manufacturer you are totally right |
| 22:48.22 | [g2] | in that case one may want to test the board and memory first |
| 22:48.41 | [g2] | but in the case of the phone the memory is "known good" |
| 22:48.57 | [g2] | unless solding the JTAG messes it up |
| 22:49.10 | [g2] | and simply booting the phone normally can verify that |
| 22:50.45 | vmaster | ok, but you could always do these tests from within the debugger - the debug handler allows you to read/write any location in the memory space |
| 22:51.24 | vmaster | it's possible to download part of the icache on-demand |
| 22:51.34 | vmaster | you could place small test routines into an otherwise unused area |
| 22:52.00 | vmaster | currently, the debug handler I've written for the OpenOCD uses 1592 byte |
| 22:52.03 | [g2] | vmaster nod. I think the plan should be to download u-boot directly into SDRAM |
| 22:52.38 | [g2] | so with the Tinykey it'll take just a couple seconds |
| 22:53.20 | vmaster | the XScale code isn't optimized for performance yet, but it's still only a matter of several seconds to load a u-boot image |
| 22:53.31 | vmaster | what type of flash is on the phone? |
| 22:53.33 | [g2] | and we should be able run the bootloader (u-boot) from memory |
| 22:53.56 | [g2] | vmaster yeah that's _extremely_ resonable |
| 22:54.14 | [g2] | not like the 40minutes for wiggling in RedBoot on the nslu2 |
| 22:56.20 | stefan_schmidt | 48MB of DiskOnChip Flash memory should be m-systems |
| 22:56.36 | vmaster | ok, you can't write that form within the OpenOCD |
| 22:56.41 | vmaster | s/form/from |
| 22:57.14 | stefan_schmidt | m-systems patents? |
| 22:57.35 | vmaster | mhh, no, it's just not added yet |
| 22:57.40 | stefan_schmidt | ok |
| 22:58.02 | vmaster | currently there's only support for CFI compatible NOR flashes using the Intel commandset |
| 22:58.20 | vmaster | if I ever find a board with AMD/Spansion commandset i'll add that, too |
| 22:58.37 | vmaster | DiskOnChip might be a bit trickier |
| 22:58.41 | [g2] | stefan_schmidt I think just dl'ing u-boot and running u-boot is all you need |
| 22:58.53 | [g2] | then you can reflash from there no ? |
| 22:59.17 | stefan_schmidt | yes, should be doable. |
| 22:59.59 | vmaster | do you know if anyone ever used jtag to debug one of these phones? |
| 23:00.39 | stefan_schmidt | I only heared somebody used it to flash. Never talked to the person directly |
| 23:01.08 | vmaster | ok, flashing isn't as critical, as you don't need to control the reset lines for this |
| 23:01.27 | vmaster | for debugging, you have to be able to individually assert both resets |
| 23:01.41 | vmaster | have you been able to identify some kind of power/reset supervisor on the board? |
| 23:02.20 | stefan_schmidt | http://wiki.openezx.org/E680_Board |
| 23:02.26 | stefan_schmidt | Not the best pictures... |
| 23:03.15 | stefan_schmidt | Number two should be the tespads for pxa JTAG |
| 23:09.56 | vmaster | mhh, difficult to see anything on these images |
| 23:10.43 | stefan_schmidt | vmaster: Yes, I need to do better ones... :( |
| 23:11.15 | vmaster | using a scanner worked fine for me in the past |
| 23:11.47 | stefan_schmidt | really? Sounds cool. :) |
| 23:16.39 | stefan_schmidt | JTAGKey-tiny is the way to go, right? |
| 23:19.01 | vmaster | http://mmd.ath.cx/virtex2_board.jpg - flatbed-scanner hardware porn |
| 23:20.00 | vmaster | hmm, the mikrocontroller.net price is incl. VAT |
| 23:22.03 | stefan_schmidt | The picture looks good. Perhaps I should try this with the phone, too. |
| 23:31.25 | [g2] | vmaster THX for all the help and input |
| 23:31.53 | [g2] | stefan_schmidt the JTAGKey-tiny sounds fine to you ? |
| 23:32.57 | stefan_schmidt | [g2]: Yes. And it's cute. :) |
| 23:33.19 | letoto | but it doesnt have blue LEDs! |
| 23:33.45 | stefan_schmidt | letoto: No space for LEDs. :) |
| 23:34.15 | vmaster | stefan_schmidt: you could try if any of the pads resets the phone when pulled to ground |
| 23:34.35 | stefan_schmidt | vmaster: Will do |
| 23:34.58 | vmaster | ok, i'm off for today |
| 23:35.04 | stefan_schmidt | night vmaster |
| 23:35.49 | vmaster | and i'll be away over the weekend |
| 23:35.52 | vmaster | so goodbye everyone |
| 23:35.55 | vmaster | and n8 |
