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| 06:32.07 | Hopscotch | good morning |
| 06:33.42 | stefan_schmidt | morning Hopscotch |
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| 06:43.31 | stefan_schmidt | morning koen |
| 06:44.49 | koen | moin stefan_schmidt |
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| 07:06.59 | stefan_schmidt | hi neolynx |
| 07:07.54 | neolynx | hello stefan_schmidt |
| 07:07.59 | neolynx | stefan_schmidt: how are you ? |
| 07:13.27 | stefan_schmidt | Have to figure out how to make renumerated interfaces from cisco routers work with cacti. Fun is something else. |
| 07:15.31 | neolynx | :) |
| 07:16.26 | neolynx | stefan_schmidt: do you know munin ? I prefer it to cacti |
| 07:16.36 | neolynx | no mysql needed |
| 07:17.14 | neolynx | stefan_schmidt: btw: I have not been able to apply the patches to a 2.6.16 kernel |
| 07:17.55 | neolynx | stefan_schmidt: so if you have a little moment once for lokking at this, it would be great |
| 07:19.09 | stefan_schmidt | neolynx: The decision for cacti was done some time ago. I "just" have to fix problems. |
| 07:19.20 | stefan_schmidt | neolynx: You mean ezx6 patchset? |
| 07:20.02 | neolynx | stefan_schmidt: yes |
| 07:20.20 | stefan_schmidt | Download and unpack vanilla 2.6.16 |
| 07:20.26 | stefan_schmidt | Download and unpack http://people.openezx.org/stefan/patches/patches-2.6.16-2.6.16.13-exz6-symlink-fix.tar.bz2 |
| 07:20.44 | stefan_schmidt | mv patches dir into linux source tree |
| 07:21.36 | stefan_schmidt | and use quilt to apply the whole series |
| 07:21.49 | neolynx | quilt ? |
| 07:21.59 | neolynx | man quilt |
| 07:22.05 | stefan_schmidt | quilt push -a |
| 07:22.06 | neolynx | ah |
| 07:22.14 | neolynx | the missing part of the puzzle :) |
| 07:22.40 | stefan_schmidt | Of course you can also aplly the patches with patch only, but should be aware od dependencies. |
| 07:23.23 | neolynx | ok |
| 07:23.41 | neolynx | so I take linux-2.6.16.tar.bz2 instead of linux-2.6.16.27.tar.bz2 ? |
| 07:24.08 | stefan_schmidt | yes |
| 07:24.25 | neolynx | ok |
| 07:24.29 | stefan_schmidt | ezx6 patches up to 12.6.16.13 itself |
| 07:24.39 | neolynx | and where do I get a .config ? |
| 07:24.48 | stefan_schmidt | ezx7 will base on 2.6.17 |
| 07:24.57 | neolynx | do I need some .hhl files to crosscompile ? |
| 07:25.23 | stefan_schmidt | .config comes with the patches. |
| 07:25.44 | koen | stefan_schmidt: no 2.6.18? |
| 07:26.44 | stefan_schmidt | koen: I hope LaF0rge release ezx7 before 2.6.18 is out. ;) |
| 07:26.54 | stefan_schmidt | neolynx: just make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux- zImage |
| 07:27.23 | neolynx | stefan_schmidt: grest, seems to work, thanks :) |
| 07:27.27 | neolynx | stefan_schmidt: great, seems to work, thanks :) |
| 07:28.43 | koen | only if you do it wrong :p |
| 07:29.11 | koen | or try to use outdated crap like qt/e 2.ancient |
| 07:29.16 | stefan_schmidt | I've done it wrong a long time now. ;) |
| 07:30.03 | stefan_schmidt | Or use bitbake trunk and not tag from svn. |
| 07:30.18 | stefan_schmidt | koen: btw, gpe-image breaks also. |
| 07:31.45 | stefan_schmidt | monotone: connecting to monotone.openembedded.org |
| 07:31.45 | stefan_schmidt | monotone: network error: failed to connect: No route to host |
| 07:34.04 | koen | looks like your network is busted |
| 07:34.23 | stefan_schmidt | ping monotone.openembedded.org works |
| 07:35.53 | stefan_schmidt | Sorry, no time for digging now. Back to work. |
| 07:39.08 | stefan_schmidt | Just to et me right. The gpe-image problem has nothing to do with the monotone problem. I just preffered an fully up-to-date system for tests. |
| 07:39.19 | stefan_schmidt | I dig into this in the evening. |
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| 13:43.55 | nevola | hi |
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| 13:49.50 | stefan_schmidt | hi nevola |
| 13:53.54 | [g2] | stefan_schmidt I've got a whole buildable OE setup on a Ubuntu LiveCD |
| 13:54.30 | stefan_schmidt | [g2]: Yes, i know, but prefer to have a working setup on my work machine. |
| 13:54.37 | [g2] | it's not that it's really hard, just that it does take some time to setup and that time could be better spent on other things |
| 13:55.00 | [g2] | it runs from a chroot |
| 13:55.05 | [g2] | too |
| 13:56.08 | stefan_schmidt | Good to know, but my setup is pretty usefull now. |
| 13:56.21 | stefan_schmidt | Just submit some bugreports on the way. |
| 13:56.21 | [g2] | stefan_schmidt on a more important subject, any luck with the AP-BP intf ? |
| 13:56.59 | [g2] | and do you have JTAG for your 680 ? |
| 13:57.04 | stefan_schmidt | Not started again. I plan to flash a kernel at the weekend. |
| 13:57.30 | stefan_schmidt | No, e680 is still closed. Only software tests until now. |
| 13:57.47 | [g2] | ok thx |
| 13:57.51 | [g2] | GL |
| 14:04.52 | koen | hey [g2] |
| 14:06.23 | [g2] | koen hey! |
| 14:31.53 | _bambam | what has happened to the websites? |
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| 14:58.14 | stefan_schmidt | _bambam: update |
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| 18:24.36 | neolynx | re |
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| 18:35.44 | neolynx | stefan_schmidt: :) |
| 18:36.12 | neolynx | stefan_schmidt: I patched and compiled the kernel, but it results in a blank white screen... |
| 18:37.16 | stefan_schmidt | neolynx: with some strange colors afterwards? |
| 18:37.25 | stefan_schmidt | neolynx: How long have you wait? |
| 18:37.28 | neolynx | stefan_schmidt: no strange colors |
| 18:37.38 | neolynx | stefan_schmidt: 1 or 2 mins |
| 18:37.43 | stefan_schmidt | neolynx: It takes some time to unpack the zImage |
| 18:37.57 | neolynx | stefan_schmidt: is it correct to boot the linux-2.6.16/arch/arm/boot/zImage ? |
| 18:37.58 | stefan_schmidt | neolynx: hmm, thats more then enough. |
| 18:38.05 | stefan_schmidt | neolynx: yes |
| 18:38.24 | stefan_schmidt | neolynx: Have you tried a precompiled one before? |
| 18:38.27 | neolynx | stefan_schmidt: other kernels boot w/o problems |
| 18:38.32 | neolynx | yes |
| 18:38.52 | neolynx | stefan_schmidt: do I need something to assure the right gcc is used ? |
| 18:39.35 | stefan_schmidt | Which crosscompile toolchain do you use? |
| 18:39.50 | neolynx | ezx-crosstool-0.5/gcc-arm-iwmmxt/gcc-3.3.6-glibc-2.3.2/arm-linux/bin |
| 18:40.06 | neolynx | is in the path |
| 18:40.40 | stefan_schmidt | hmm, same here. |
| 18:40.57 | stefan_schmidt | Do you have more then one arm-linux-gcc in path? |
| 18:41.18 | neolynx | no, only one |
| 18:41.39 | koen | stefan_schmidt: 'bitbake devshell' will produce a shell script that sets up the vars to use the OE toolchain 'stand alone' |
| 18:42.17 | neolynx | stefan_schmidt: how can I verify that the compiler used is arm-linux-gcc ? |
| 18:45.03 | stefan_schmidt | koen: cool, nice feature. |
| 18:45.04 | neolynx | stefan_schmidt: ah, I retried the same kernel, now it boots |
| 18:45.09 | neolynx | :) |
| 18:45.12 | neolynx | juhuu ! |
| 18:45.17 | stefan_schmidt | congrats |
| 18:45.34 | neolynx | thanks a lot :) |
| 18:45.54 | neolynx | so I only need to know where I can help |
| 18:46.12 | neolynx | race condition in the boot sector ? :-> |
| 18:46.15 | mickeyl | which device do you have? |
| 18:46.22 | stefan_schmidt | neolynx: http://wiki.openezx.org/TODO |
| 18:47.20 | neolynx | mickeyl: a780 |
| 18:47.39 | neolynx | hum... opie starts, but screen stays black :-/ |
| 18:47.48 | mickeyl | for a780, the next steps would be camera and sound infrastructure |
| 18:47.55 | mickeyl | sound being much more complicated |
| 18:48.13 | neolynx | ok, sound then :) |
| 18:48.17 | mickeyl | excellent :D |
| 18:48.21 | nh_work | nice! :D |
| 18:48.22 | neolynx | mickeyl: what about the BP gsm stuff ? |
| 18:48.44 | mickeyl | that's even more complicated and probably needs reflashing |
| 18:49.06 | mickeyl | for sound, i strongly recommend basing on the nice ASoC infrastructure. |
| 18:49.07 | koen | mickeyl: did you see that a driver exists for the camera? |
| 18:49.24 | mickeyl | koen: yes. nothing in mainline though. |
| 18:49.53 | mickeyl | the pxacamera interface from 2.4 / 2.6.5(mainstone) should be submitted to mainline |
| 18:50.03 | neolynx | I just need some additional help... no opie with my kernel |
| 18:50.07 | koen | Although the qualtity is unbelievably bad, it would be cute for videocasts over edge |
| 18:50.14 | neolynx | opie works with zImage-2.6.16.13-a780-20060529204745.bin |
| 18:50.28 | stefan_schmidt | neolynx: yes |
| 18:50.35 | mickeyl | probably you didn't enable important all settings |
| 18:50.40 | mickeyl | opie needs a couple of things |
| 18:50.44 | mickeyl | unix domain sockets |
| 18:50.45 | mickeyl | tmpfs |
| 18:50.47 | mickeyl | and stuff |
| 18:50.52 | mickeyl | better use the defconfig in OE |
| 18:50.55 | koen | CONFIG_STUFF |
| 18:50.58 | neolynx | ok, so I just enable this in my kernel ? |
| 18:51.06 | neolynx | koen: lol :-> |
| 18:51.35 | stefan_schmidt | neolynx: i think you can use the patches mickeyl put in oe. |
| 18:51.41 | neolynx | ah I see, udev missing some sockets... |
| 18:52.05 | stefan_schmidt | neolynx: http://www.openembedded.org/repo/org.openembedded.dev/packages/linux/linux-ezx/ |
| 18:52.11 | stefan_schmidt | neolynx: or just use oe |
| 18:52.27 | neolynx | what's the advantage of oe ? |
| 18:52.39 | koen | mickeyl: that url stefan_schmidt posted is mtn 0.26 powered :) |
| 18:52.41 | neolynx | I prefer basic stuff... gcc, kernel, ... |
| 18:52.53 | mickeyl | koen: woot! |
| 18:53.13 | koen | mickeyl: pssst, there's even a read-only server running |
| 18:53.31 | stefan_schmidt | mickeyl: defconfig-a780 has enabled the needed config options? |
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| 18:53.36 | mickeyl | yes |
| 18:53.51 | stefan_schmidt | neolynx: Of course you can just use gcc, etc |
| 18:53.56 | stefan_schmidt | mickeyl: thanks |
| 18:54.24 | stefan_schmidt | neolynx: oe becomes handy for building a whole distro, not only kernel |
| 18:54.43 | neolynx | ok! |
| 18:55.21 | stefan_schmidt | koen: read-only even for monotone 0.27? |
| 18:55.24 | neolynx | stefan_schmidt: can I put the patches to the others in the patches/ dir and run quilt ? |
| 18:56.03 | stefan_schmidt | neolynx: yes, but you've to add the file names of the patches in the series file. |
| 18:57.23 | stefan_schmidt | koen: btw, you were right in the morning. I could not connect to the monotone server, because my work network was busted. |
| 18:58.13 | stefan_schmidt | koen: One of our admins thought it was a good idea to test new access rules in our intranet. :( |
| 19:02.51 | koen | the "no route to host" was pretty obvious ;) |
| 19:03.11 | koen | stefan_schmidt: yes for 0.27 |
| 19:03.22 | koen | in case migrationmaster zecke finds an error |
| 19:04.00 | mickeyl | i still think the 'check-out-rev' test should be done before we're going live |
| 19:04.30 | koen | mickeyl: I have no idea how to do that thest |
| 19:04.41 | mickeyl | let's wait for zecke's sleep |
| 19:07.25 | neolynx | yes, opie running :) |
| 19:10.13 | mickeyl | good |
| 19:11.15 | neolynx | mickeyl: what do you suggest as approach for the sound driver ? |
| 19:12.20 | koen | ASoC! |
| 19:12.22 | mickeyl | neolynx: a) learn everything about the present hardware |
| 19:12.27 | mickeyl | b) learn everything about ASoC |
| 19:12.40 | mickeyl | c) start to implement ASoC codec drivers |
| 19:12.55 | koen | http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/patches/alsa/info.html |
| 19:14.35 | neolynx | thanks! |
| 19:21.36 | stefan_schmidt | koen: My problem was, that it works a hour before on the same location. :) |
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| 19:44.37 | stefan_schmidt | mickey|packBag: If you still like to buy a macbook, you can saving a stove: http://www.sagags.com/?p=441 ;) |
| 19:46.45 | nevola | :) |
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| 20:53.43 | stefan_schmidt | LaF0rge around? |
| 20:54.36 | stefan_schmidt | Fine. First test with the flashkit works good. I just flashed another logo image to /dev/mtd7 |
| 20:54.56 | koen | yay! |
| 20:57.57 | stefan_schmidt | So, what is needed in the kernel? ezx6 patchset. No bootup logo. |
| 20:59.45 | stefan_schmidt | I think i use mickey|packBag's precompiled one, he prepared for opie. |
| 21:06.58 | stefan_schmidt | Fine, this kernel should work. Boot into opie and have working ssh. |
| 21:08.39 | stefan_schmidt | Sorry for being so talkative, but i'm nervous. :) |
| 21:11.43 | koen | :) |
| 21:12.33 | stefan_schmidt | koen: thanks |
| 21:13.21 | ao2 | we root for stefan_schmidt |
| 21:15.17 | stefan_schmidt | OK, flash is unlocked now again. |
| 21:15.43 | stefan_schmidt | First backup the old image, flash afterwards |
| 21:16.12 | [g2] | and koen :) |
| 21:16.36 | file | mooo |
| 21:18.03 | koen | super cow powers! |
| 21:18.31 | stefan_schmidt | ok, backup is done. Nothing else i can do before. ;) |
| 21:18.58 | stefan_schmidt | hmm |
| 21:19.00 | stefan_schmidt | mmca1 # flashcp -v zImage2613 /dev/mtd4 |
| 21:19.00 | stefan_schmidt | zImage2613 won't fit into /dev/mtd4! |
| 21:19.00 | stefan_schmidt | mmca1 # du -chs zImage2613 |
| 21:19.00 | stefan_schmidt | 928k zImage2613 |
| 21:19.01 | stefan_schmidt | 928k total |
| 21:19.39 | stefan_schmidt | 896k mtd4-backup |
| 21:19.39 | koen | how big is mtd4? |
| 21:19.52 | ao2 | so you should let something out of the kernel |
| 21:20.02 | stefan_schmidt | mtd4: 000e0000 00020000 "R/W Kernel" |
| 21:20.13 | koen | 32kB |
| 21:20.27 | koen | try removing some of the block device schedulers and the bootlogo |
| 21:21.18 | koen | 'make ARCH=arm menuconfig' in the kernel dir and bitbake -b ezx.bb -c compile -f |
| 21:21.36 | koen | that should regenate the zImage within minutes |
| 21:21.44 | koen | (if not seconds) |
| 21:22.13 | stefan_schmidt | ok |
| 21:24.18 | koen | the zImage will be in arch/arm/boot/zImage |
| 21:26.40 | ao2 | 0xE0000-0x20000 = 0xC0000 = 786432 |
| 21:27.02 | ao2 | so why the backed up image is 896k ? |
| 21:27.12 | koen | ecc? |
| 21:27.42 | [g2] | probably because the whole mtd is backed up |
| 21:27.47 | koen | and isn't is 0x20000 - 0xe0000? |
| 21:28.22 | koen | nevermind |
| 21:28.28 | koen | it's getting late in here |
| 21:28.50 | ao2 | so the kernel image to write should be <= 786432 bytes |
| 21:29.02 | koen | stefan_schmidt: and enable 'optimize for size' |
| 21:30.40 | stefan_schmidt | i just kicked bootlogo and netfilter. (Hopefully Harald don't read this. ;)) |
| 21:30.49 | [g2] | heh |
| 21:31.44 | [g2] | stefan_schmidt is the partition table dumped somewhere or the console log with all the partitions ? |
| 21:32.10 | [g2] | or better yet a flash image |
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| 21:36.56 | stefan_schmidt | [g2]: I've backuped 'cat /proc/mtd' |
| 21:37.24 | stefan_schmidt | And kernel image. The other stuff, like rootfs is uninteresting. |
| 21:38.42 | [g2] | stefan_schmidt I'm wondering where the partition table is located and whether we can change it |
| 21:39.17 | stefan_schmidt | koen: I don't have an ezx.bb here. But bitbake virtual/kernel -c compile -f should work, right? |
| 21:39.48 | stefan_schmidt | [g2]: I read the same values inside the kernel source. |
| 21:39.58 | koen | nope |
| 21:40.04 | koen | 0f only works with -b |
| 21:40.18 | koen | koen@bitbake:~/OE/monotone/org.openembedded.dev/packages/linux$ bitbake -b linux-ezx_2.6.16.13.bb -c compile -f |
| 21:40.31 | [g2] | stefan_schmidt you may want to double check on the flash_eraseall as it may do the entire chip |
| 21:42.02 | stefan_schmidt | koen: Thanks, this work. |
| 21:43.05 | stefan_schmidt | [g2]: At the moment i just erase and write /dev/mtd4, the place for the kernel. |
| 21:47.23 | koen | stefan_schmidt: try removing nfs as well |
| 21:47.49 | koen | nfs, serial, rtc, mtd |
| 21:48.25 | stefan_schmidt | koen: I should not write it works, before it's ready. :( |
| 21:48.47 | stefan_schmidt | Pastebin is sloooow |
| 21:48.52 | stefan_schmidt | ~lart pastebin |
| 21:48.57 | koen | koen@bitbake:/data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/angstrom/work/a780-linux-gnueabi/linux-ezx-2.6.16.13-ezx6-r13/linux-2.6.16$ du -k arch/arm/boot/zImage |
| 21:48.58 | koen | 900 arch/arm/boot/zImage |
| 21:49.57 | stefan_schmidt | koen: That's without nfs, etc? |
| 21:50.19 | koen | yes |
| 21:50.42 | stefan_schmidt | koen: Can you upload it somewhere? |
| 21:50.50 | koen | sure |
| 21:51.18 | stefan_schmidt | I think i take this one. Make a boot_usb test again and if this works, try again. |
| 21:51.33 | stefan_schmidt | btw, http://pastebin.com/751574 |
| 21:51.39 | koen | http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/a780/ |
| 21:55.27 | stefan_schmidt | koen: You let the bootup logo enabled. |
| 21:56.13 | koen | grr |
| 21:56.17 | stefan_schmidt | koen: thanks |
| 21:56.22 | koen | ~lart pcap and led stuff |
| 21:56.36 | koen | they depend on apm, but don't specify it |
| 22:00.19 | [g2] | stefan_schmidt which maj/min number did you use for /dev/mtd ? b 31 0 are the blocks and c 90 0/1 are the char devices and RO device |
| 22:00.54 | neolynx | n8 |
| 22:02.29 | koen | 888 arch/arm/boot/zImage |
| 22:02.31 | koen | getting closer |
| 22:03.01 | stefan_schmidt | [g2]: Phone is in bootloader mode atm. |
| 22:03.28 | [g2] | stefan_schmidt np |
| 22:06.49 | stefan_schmidt | koen: Phone is up and running. Now you get _two_ beers from me. :) |
| 22:06.59 | koen | :) |
| 22:08.57 | stefan_schmidt | koen: You will be at 23C3 or Fosdem 2007? |
| 22:09.13 | koen | most likely fosdem |
| 22:09.34 | stefan_schmidt | I hope to meet you and the other cool guys here at some point. |
| 22:09.54 | stefan_schmidt | OK, i'll if i can arrange it. |
| 22:10.02 | koen | http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/cms/index.php/v/Koen/confs/fosdem/fosdem2006/dscf0371.jpg.html?q=gallery :) |
| 22:11.09 | stefan_schmidt | Oh, you guys drink big glasses of beer. :) |
| 22:11.20 | koen | nah, that's just mickeyl |
| 22:11.26 | stefan_schmidt | lol |
| 22:11.29 | koen | he canonly get Leffe Brun once a year :) |
| 22:11.36 | stefan_schmidt | And you drunk the small coke? |
| 22:11.52 | koen | heh, no |
| 22:11.55 | koen | I dislike cola |
| 22:12.50 | stefan_schmidt | wow, coke and milk are god drinks. And beer of course. ;) |
| 22:13.24 | koen | well, I did drink cola tonight |
| 22:13.32 | koen | but only to dilute the rum |
| 22:13.47 | stefan_schmidt | lol |
| 22:14.13 | koen | hrm, I can't get below 884kB |
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| 22:18.23 | koen | he prpplague |
| 22:18.33 | prpplague | koen: hey hey |
| 22:18.40 | prpplague | koen: what's cooking? |
| 22:18.55 | koen | prpplague: try the 'rooster zombie' when you visit the Red Rooster |
| 22:19.22 | koen | prpplague: trying to slim down the ezx kernel |
| 22:19.28 | stefan_schmidt | mmca1 # flashcp -v zImageKoen /dev/mtd4 |
| 22:19.29 | stefan_schmidt | Erasing blocks: 1/7 (14%) |
| 22:19.29 | stefan_schmidt | While erasing blocks 0x00000000-0x00020000 on /dev/mtd4: Read-only file system |
| 22:19.43 | stefan_schmidt | Moment i read something about this. |
| 22:20.20 | koen | 792 arch/arm/boot/zImage |
| 22:20.39 | stefan_schmidt | koen: wow, what was that? |
| 22:21.00 | prpplague | koen: hehe, i'll try it next time |
| 22:21.06 | prpplague | koen: probably friday |
| 22:21.09 | stefan_schmidt | LaF0rge runs into the same problem with read-only. |
| 22:21.36 | koen | general setup -> standard kernel -> turn of all debug crap |
| 22:22.01 | koen | boom, 100kB less |
| 22:22.42 | prpplague | 792k? |
| 22:22.59 | koen | yes |
| 22:23.05 | prpplague | ahh |
| 22:23.18 | prpplague | koen: i've tinkered with some of the small kernel options |
| 22:23.32 | koen | http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/a780/defconfig |
| 22:23.36 | prpplague | koen: you turned of any of those? |
| 22:23.38 | prpplague | oh |
| 22:24.06 | koen | it's an EABI kernel compiled with -Os, so it should be pretty small |
| 22:24.24 | koen | stefan_schmidt: congrats on booting the first EABI kernel on a moto phone :) |
| 22:25.35 | prpplague | koen: what kind of rootfs are you using? |
| 22:26.06 | koen | prpplague: atm nothin, but stefan_schmidt will be booting into OABI/softpfa |
| 22:26.32 | koen | I was too lazy to tell OE to switch to OABI mode for the kernel |
| 22:26.45 | prpplague | koen: just an item for quick boot, try adding the "lpj=" option to the command line |
| 22:26.55 | prpplague | koen: saves about .5 seconds on boot |
| 22:27.03 | koen | ah, the jiffy hack |
| 22:27.11 | prpplague | yea |
| 22:27.46 | prpplague | koen: have you got a boot dmesg available? |
| 22:27.50 | koen | prpplague: http://free-electrons.com/doc/embedded_linux_optimizations/img47.html |
| 22:28.03 | koen | prpplague: i haven't booted 2.6 yet on the a780 |
| 22:29.04 | koen | wait, the slides got rearranged |
| 22:29.05 | koen | http://free-electrons.com/doc/embedded_linux_optimizations/img53.html |
| 22:29.10 | prpplague | hehe |
| 22:29.26 | prpplague | ahh, learn something new every day, i didn't know about super strip |
| 22:29.58 | koen | the lpj is at http://free-electrons.com/doc/embedded_linux_optimizations/img12.html |
| 22:30.53 | prpplague | these are great slides |
| 22:31.03 | prpplague | who did these? |
| 22:31.13 | koen | michael opdenacker |
| 22:31.46 | prpplague | ahh |
| 22:31.50 | prpplague | these are great |
| 22:31.56 | prpplague | this will help me alot with the pixter |
| 22:32.00 | koen | :) |
| 22:32.59 | koen | http://free-electrons.com/community/videos/conferences/ is also nice |
| 22:33.09 | stefan_schmidt | ~lart rwflash-kernel-module |
| 22:33.19 | stefan_schmidt | thanks purl |
| 22:33.56 | prpplague | koen: not sure if its listed in the slides , but the initramfs code doesn't have any kernel args for configuration, so if you are using an old style initrd, its good to comment out some of the checks in linux-2.6/init/initramfs.c |
| 22:34.12 | prpplague | koen: i assume you've seen my ranting about the pixter-mm ? |
| 22:34.25 | koen | prpplague: yep |
| 22:35.00 | prpplague | hehe |
| 22:36.10 | prpplague | koen: you going to do xip kernel and apps? |
| 22:38.44 | koen | prpplague: I'm thinking about it |
| 22:39.00 | koen | prpplague: maybe XIP userspace as well |
| 22:39.11 | prpplague | koen: xip kernel seems to work well |
| 22:39.12 | koen | have /lib in flash and /usr on TF |
| 22:39.22 | prpplague | koen: my tests seem to save about 1.25mb of ram |
| 22:39.30 | koen | nice |
| 22:39.52 | koen | I wonder how well jffs2/XIP works |
| 22:40.18 | koen | you loose compression, but with 48MB flash + tf that doesn't really matter |
| 22:40.31 | prpplague | oh i've not seen the jffs2/xip yet |
| 22:40.45 | prpplague | koen: i was just experimenting with linear cramfs |
| 22:41.08 | koen | that's also an option |
| 22:41.27 | koen | but I get all twitchy when I'm forced to use a RO filesystem |
| 22:41.33 | prpplague | yea |
| 22:41.47 | prpplague | koen: doing all RO fs is kind of an art more than science, hehe |
| 22:42.52 | koen | yeah |
| 22:43.40 | koen | sleeping |
| 22:43.43 | koen | 'night all |
| 22:43.43 | prpplague | koen: hehe |
| 22:43.48 | prpplague | koen: later |
| 22:46.30 | stefan_schmidt | mmca1 # flashcp -v zImageKoen /dev/mtd4 |
| 22:46.30 | stefan_schmidt | Erasing blocks: 7/7 (100%) |
| 22:46.30 | stefan_schmidt | Writing data: 885k/885k (100%) |
| 22:46.30 | stefan_schmidt | Verifying data: 885k/885k (100% |
| 22:47.25 | stefan_schmidt | hmm, two minutes to late to let koen see this. Thanks to koen anyway. |
| 22:48.24 | stefan_schmidt | boot new kernel or not boot new kernel, that is the question. |
| 22:48.36 | prpplague | hehe |
| 22:48.44 | prpplague | stefan_schmidt: got jtag handy? hehe |
| 22:48.58 | stefan_schmidt | prpplague: Not yet. :) |
| 22:49.02 | prpplague | stefan_schmidt: doh |
| 22:49.29 | ao2 | brave |
| 22:49.35 | stefan_schmidt | prpplague: But it's my devel phone and i can work with booting kernel over usb anyway. :) |
| 22:49.48 | prpplague | stefan_schmidt: ahh |
| 22:50.00 | prpplague | stefan_schmidt: whats the ram/flash stats of it? |
| 22:50.12 | stefan_schmidt | prpplague: And i plan to add jtag to it at some later point. |
| 22:50.48 | stefan_schmidt | prpplague: You mean how much ram/flash? (Sorry non native english speaker) |
| 22:51.12 | prpplague | stefan_schmidt: i am sorry, i use too much slang |
| 22:51.29 | stefan_schmidt | I think i turn it on again tomorrow. |
| 22:51.35 | stefan_schmidt | Just kidding. :) |
| 22:51.37 | prpplague | stefan_schmidt: yes, how much ram and flash does it have |
| 22:51.43 | prpplague | stefan_schmidt: that would be evil |
| 22:51.50 | stefan_schmidt | prpplague: 48MB both |
| 22:52.05 | prpplague | wow |
| 22:52.08 | prpplague | nicwe |
| 22:52.11 | prpplague | nice |
| 22:53.36 | stefan_schmidt | yeaaaaaaaaah |
| 22:53.41 | stefan_schmidt | I love you all. |
| 22:53.46 | stefan_schmidt | Especially koen. |
| 22:53.54 | prpplague | hehe |
| 22:55.36 | blkhawk | cool |
| 22:55.36 | stefan_schmidt | hmm, turned off during init process |
| 22:55.39 | blkhawk | it works? |
| 22:55.48 | blkhawk | awwww |
| 22:55.51 | stefan_schmidt | Kernel boots, init starts |
| 22:56.21 | stefan_schmidt | but breaks at some point |
| 22:56.54 | stefan_schmidt | Anyway it's cool to see a selfcompiled 2.6 booting from flash |
| 22:57.19 | prpplague | stefan_schmidt: always is |
| 22:57.38 | prpplague | stefan_schmidt: try seeing it boot from a custom board that hasn't ever booted |
| 22:57.40 | ao2 | great |
| 22:59.37 | stefan_schmidt | OK, next steps should be to fix the mtd support, which let us flash a kernel from a another kernel bootet via usb. |
| 23:00.29 | prpplague | stefan_schmidt: fun fun |
| 23:00.44 | stefan_schmidt | prpplague: yes |
| 23:01.07 | [g2] | stefan_schmidt congrats! |
| 23:01.23 | stefan_schmidt | [g2]: thanks |
| 23:01.28 | [g2] | stefan_schmidt as long as the bootload isn't hosed you should be able to replace the kernel at will |
| 23:01.39 | [g2] | after booting to one in RAM of course |
| 23:01.56 | [g2] | but we are on thin ice without JTAG |
| 23:02.35 | [g2] | on the nslu2-linux project our 1 semi-brick was due to a bad partition table entry |
| 23:02.43 | [g2] | it needed JTAG to recover |
| 23:03.18 | stefan_schmidt | I'll add jtag to this device anyway. |
| 23:03.32 | [g2] | what are you going to use for JTAG ? |
| 23:04.08 | stefan_schmidt | [g2]: Not sure. Never done jtag before |
| 23:04.09 | stefan_schmidt | :) |
| 23:04.46 | stefan_schmidt | Test pads + some cable + adapter + software |
| 23:04.48 | prpplague | jtag is fun |
| 23:04.58 | [g2] | I think olimex has a new board that uses an FTDI chip |
| 23:05.11 | stefan_schmidt | I've seen it used several times, but never used on my own. |
| 23:05.19 | [g2] | it uses USB and maybe a little faster than just parallel |
| 23:06.00 | [g2] | I need to do some more testing as we were very close with the ep93xx boards |
| 23:06.09 | [g2] | via bit-banging |
| 23:06.52 | [g2] | stefan_schmidt are you at a shell ? |
| 23:07.31 | prpplague | hehe i got my first jtag dongle from TimRiker for my tuxscreen |
| 23:08.42 | stefan_schmidt | [g2]: No shell atm. What do you like to know? |
| 23:09.16 | [g2] | what the major and minor number are for mtd |
| 23:09.39 | [g2] | mtd0 is c 90 0 and mtdr0 is c 90 1 |
| 23:10.01 | [g2] | but what's the whole device ? |
| 23:11.09 | [g2] | and on a totally different subject, what do you think about squashfs partition ? |
| 23:13.22 | stefan_schmidt | [g2]: You mean in general, or on this device? |
| 23:13.32 | [g2] | on this device |
| 23:14.04 | stefan_schmidt | eh, squashfs or mtd number? :) |
| 23:14.07 | ao2 | good night |
| 23:14.24 | [g2] | stefan_schmidt I've got two questions: |
| 23:14.49 | [g2] | 1) what's the MAJOR/MINOR number for /dev/mtd the full device |
| 23:15.27 | [g2] | 2) as far as the rootfs goes does anyone consider squashfs as a possiblility |
| 23:16.09 | [g2] | or can one just cat /dev/mtd0 and it's read the whole device ? |
| 23:16.27 | stefan_schmidt | Okay, 1) I booted another 2.6 kernel and has take a look. But the kernels has had no mtd support. Sorry. |
| 23:17.16 | [g2] | stefan_schmidt NP |
| 23:17.23 | stefan_schmidt | 2) Yes, squashfs could be interesting. But i've never done embedded stuff before, so i let this decision by someone else. |
| 23:17.54 | [g2] | re embedded |
| 23:19.02 | stefan_schmidt | from /usr/source/linux/Documentation/devices.txt |
| 23:19.05 | stefan_schmidt | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:19.05 | stefan_schmidt | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:19.05 | stefan_schmidt | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:19.05 | stefan_schmidt | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:19.05 | stefan_schmidt | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:19.07 | stefan_schmidt | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:19.23 | stefan_schmidt | So, there is no /dev/mtd |
| 23:20.03 | stefan_schmidt | [g2]: And yes, i think i'm hoocked. ;) |
| 23:22.43 | [g2] | or just mapped the flash and copied it out |
| 23:22.54 | [g2] | via mmap |
| 23:24.09 | stefan_schmidt | I think the normal way is to concatenat the partitions. |
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