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| 07:36.49 | Hopscotch | good morning |
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| 12:27.19 | [g2] | koen morning |
| 12:27.42 | koen | hey [g2] |
| 12:28.01 | [g2] | are you running OPIE on the a780 yet ? |
| 12:28.54 | koen | hell no |
| 12:29.06 | koen | I tolerate ezx |
| 12:29.57 | [g2] | gug mickey|office |
| 12:31.12 | mickey|office | hey g2 |
| 12:31.25 | koen | If I can a) receive calls and b) use edge over bt, I'm more than happy |
| 12:33.00 | [g2] | koen mickey|office so which OE distro should I try to run on the A780 for a GUI ? |
| 12:33.31 | koen | ezx or openzaurus at the moment |
| 12:33.51 | [g2] | OPIE 99% builds with a current snapshot (I'm only aware of the obex issue which I posted a bug about) |
| 12:34.04 | [g2] | so there's an ezx-image ? |
| 12:34.11 | mickey|office | DISTRO=ezx |
| 12:34.18 | mickey|office | bitbake opie-image or gpe-image |
| 12:34.23 | mickey|office | or bootstrap-image |
| 12:34.33 | koen | or bootstrap-image or e-image :) |
| 12:34.34 | koen | or ... |
| 12:34.38 | mickey|office | *nod* |
| 12:34.38 | [g2] | bootstrap-image works fine |
| 12:34.53 | [g2] | opie-image dies iirc |
| 12:35.01 | [g2] | due to the obex bug |
| 12:35.49 | [g2] | I booted to the TF using the OE build image a couple weeks ago and it works great (except for the power isssue) |
| 12:36.47 | [g2] | so I was looking to play with BT and the GUI but the opie-image didn't fully build |
| 12:37.41 | koen | bt doesn't work yet |
| 12:39.38 | stefan_schmidt | where can i follow the bugs inside openembeddd for openezx? |
| 12:40.48 | koen | bugs.openembedded.org would be my guess |
| 12:41.25 | mickey|office | [g2]: which bug number was that again? |
| 12:41.39 | [g2] | I'll look it up |
| 12:41.58 | [g2] | 1113 |
| 12:42.44 | stefan_schmidt | koen: I'm already there, but searching with bugzilla for openezx gives me no results. |
| 12:43.31 | [g2] | stefan_schmidt it's filed under opie as it's an opie issue |
| 12:43.31 | mickey|office | thanks |
| 12:43.57 | stefan_schmidt | Searching for A780 works |
| 12:45.17 | koen | I've added a OpenEZX product ID |
| 12:45.18 | [g2] | I've never used OPIE |
| 12:45.39 | [g2] | I was just building that because I thought that's what ppl were using |
| 12:46.05 | stefan_schmidt | koen: You are fast. Thanks a lot. This helps me tracking it. :) |
| 12:46.50 | [g2] | having run on the slug/loft for nearly 2 years with nothing more that a shell it's not like I'm missing a GUI |
| 12:47.17 | [g2] | but it seemd like all that stuff was working so I'm not against using it :) |
| 12:47.51 | [g2] | the A780 is in a usable state for me now with just kernel, ssh and rootfs on TF |
| 12:52.01 | koen | add http://bugs.openembedded.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&version=OpenEZX&long_desc_type=substring&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailcc2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&chfieldfrom=&chfie |
| 12:52.47 | koen | or http://tinyurl.com/fek5r if you are lazy ;) |
| 12:59.43 | stefan_schmidt | :) |
| 13:10.22 | mickey|office | [g2]: i just commented on the bug. i can't reproduce it |
| 13:14.11 | [g2] | mickey|office I reprodude it this morning |
| 13:14.23 | [g2] | s/reprodude/reproduced/ |
| 13:14.44 | [g2] | unless the deps have changed in the last hour or two |
| 13:15.37 | [g2] | mickey|office btw I agree it's an obexpush issue |
| 13:15.46 | mickey|office | openobex |
| 13:15.46 | [g2] | not really an opie |
| 13:15.58 | [g2] | right openobex |
| 13:16.03 | mickey|office | check whether openobex drags this lib in |
| 13:16.12 | mickey|office | if it does, it needs to link against it as well |
| 13:16.23 | mickey|office | there is already a libusb cross compilation patch, perhaps we need to improve that |
| 13:17.30 | [g2] | gpe's been merrily building away |
| 13:27.40 | mickey|office | ok, i'll push a fix to openobex |
| 13:27.44 | mickey|office | it was pretty broken anway :D |
| 13:33.48 | [g2] | heh |
| 13:47.17 | jonwil | has there been any progress getting AP<->BP communication working? |
| 13:47.59 | mickey|office | i don't think so. LaF0rge seems to be the only one working on that and he's pretty busy these days |
| 13:49.56 | koen | LaF0rge: did work on mux_cli |
| 13:56.52 | LaF0rge | i unexpectedly lost a [business] project, so i should have some more time again now. |
| 13:57.22 | mickey|office | oh. that's good and bad. |
| 14:02.14 | LaF0rge | mickey: ack |
| 14:10.13 | jonwil | I do not think we will have working AP<->BP communications unless we replace the kernel, BLOB or both |
| 14:10.23 | jonwil | i.e. actually overwrite the motorola flash image |
| 14:10.32 | jonwil | and boot the phone normally |
| 14:14.15 | LaF0rge | jonwil: we'll see |
| 14:14.59 | jonwil | do you think there is a way to boot a kernel with boot_usb, leave the stock moto kernel and blob untouched and yet still have the BP booting in completly normal mode? |
| 14:15.36 | LaF0rge | i think there should be a way, yes. even if it means to unpower the BP via PCAP/SPI |
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| 15:46.34 | [g2] | LaF0rge sorry to hear about the lost business poject :( |
| 15:47.47 | [g2] | mickey|office gpe-image builds fine |
| 15:48.01 | [g2] | I'll pull/update and try the opie-image |
| 15:54.51 | LaF0rge | g2: no problem, not all that bad. i can need some extra time. |
| 16:01.41 | [g2] | mickey|office can you bb obexpush ? |
| 17:00.29 | mickey|office | [g2]: yeah. works fine here |
| 17:00.56 | [g2] | mickey|office hmmmm |
| 17:03.31 | mickey|office | oh obex push |
| 17:03.38 | mickey|office | wait a minute |
| 17:04.05 | mickey|office | aha |
| 17:04.15 | mickey|office | finally i can reproduce your problem :) |
| 17:04.32 | mickey|office | that's good. reopening 1113 then |
| 17:04.52 | [g2] | heh |
| 17:06.30 | mickey|office | fixed :) |
| 17:12.19 | [g2] | mickey|office thx |
| 17:13.56 | mickey|office | np |
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| 18:21.57 | [g2] | mickey|office THX that fixes obexpush for building |
| 18:31.36 | [g2] | mickey|office / koen do gpe-image and opie-image include the bootstrap-image rootfs or are they overlays ? |
| 18:32.28 | koen | they are complete systems |
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| 18:33.05 | [g2] | koen thx |
| 18:33.36 | [g2] | does anyone know if BLOB for the A780 can pass a cmd line ? |
| 18:34.17 | [g2] | I'm thinking of building two root partitions and adding an option to the loader to boot to gpe or opie based on a commnd line option on the load |
| 18:34.36 | [g2] | basically it'd change root= from sda1 to sda2 |
| 18:35.29 | stefan_schmidt | [g2]: Two kernels with the different rootfs as kernel cmd line. |
| 18:35.46 | [g2] | stefan_schmidt that's one option |
| 18:36.06 | [g2] | but I'd probably just sed the kernel |
| 18:36.06 | stefan_schmidt | The only way we can communicate with the bootloader is to upload and execute code. |
| 18:37.49 | stefan_schmidt | that's a way too |
| 18:38.12 | [g2] | stefan_schmidt BLOB is just loading a kernel to ram and booting it right ? |
| 18:38.12 | stefan_schmidt | right |
| 18:38.55 | [g2] | so another solution would be to add an initramfs and boot to that which could then do stuff like boot via NFS on USB, BT or load different rootfs from TF |
| 18:39.35 | stefan_schmidt | You could only upload 1MB. Thats hard for kernel + initrd |
| 18:40.05 | [g2] | that's a BLOB restriction right ? |
| 18:40.07 | stefan_schmidt | And you can already have rootfs on nfs. IIRC mickey|office does this already. |
| 18:40.31 | stefan_schmidt | Motorola BLOB restriction. Right. |
| 18:41.10 | [g2] | right on the moto version of BLOB, but we have all the source for that correct ? |
| 18:41.35 | [g2] | so in theory, someone with JTAG could create enhanced BLOB |
| 18:41.44 | stefan_schmidt | right. |
| 18:42.46 | stefan_schmidt | I way able to compile it from the moto sources some time ago. I hoped to be able to load the new blob in ram and start another bootloader. |
| 18:43.19 | stefan_schmidt | I don't attach jtag to my phone, because i use it day-by-day. |
| 18:44.10 | stefan_schmidt | Perhaps we have luck an get some phones sponsored. With a devel phone i start this stuff agai. |
| 18:44.15 | stefan_schmidt | n |
| 18:44.39 | stefan_schmidt | If you like to do it, go ahead. :) |
| 18:44.39 | [g2] | stefan_schmidt you want a development phone to play with ? |
| 18:45.00 | stefan_schmidt | [g2]: yes |
| 18:45.19 | [g2] | what do the A780s cost ? |
| 18:45.24 | koen | didn't harald have an address to get cheap phones? |
| 18:45.43 | koen | s/harald/LaF0rge/ |
| 18:45.45 | [g2] | you're in DE right ? |
| 18:45.51 | stefan_schmidt | [g2]: ca. 300 Euro at ebay. |
| 18:45.55 | stefan_schmidt | [g2]: right |
| 18:46.19 | [g2] | stefan_schmidt my A780 was $262 |
| 18:46.22 | [g2] | US |
| 18:46.34 | stefan_schmidt | koen: He discovered a way to import asia phones. |
| 18:47.22 | stefan_schmidt | koen: So we can access other phones then a780/e680 |
| 18:48.07 | stefan_schmidt | [g2]: With some luck we've a sponsor for 1 or 2 phones. We'll see. |
| 19:05.03 | LaF0rge | my source of imported motorola phones turned out to be a criminal |
| 19:05.44 | stefan_schmidt | LaF0rge: oh, that's a pity. |
| 19:06.27 | blkhawk | LaF0rge: oh, were the prices good? |
| 19:06.51 | LaF0rge | the prices were good, but they only took the money, never shipped phones |
| 19:07.24 | LaF0rge | and given the bad prospect of legal action in romania, the money can be considered lost. |
| 19:07.34 | stefan_schmidt | :( |
| 19:07.36 | koen | ouch |
| 19:07.58 | LaF0rge | the even more embarrasing thing is: it wasn't even my money, but a friend of mine who tried to order the first five phones :( |
| 19:10.34 | blkhawk | :( |
| 19:12.21 | stefan_schmidt | sad story |
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| 20:04.37 | blkhawk | http://thedailywtf.com/forums/thread/79073.aspx |
| 20:04.56 | blkhawk | that sounds like what I build for my dads school a decade or so back |
| 20:05.08 | blkhawk | hubs were too expensive |
| 20:05.11 | blkhawk | :P |
| 20:05.25 | blkhawk | but it was only 4 machines |
| 20:06.28 | blkhawk | :P |
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| 20:28.17 | koen | mickey|office: the backlight/led code for the a780 is complete? |
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| 20:47.28 | koen | heh |
| 20:47.35 | koen | tap on the battery bar -> 20% |
| 20:47.46 | koen | voice command "check battery" -> 60% |
| 20:47.50 | koen | wth? |
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