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| 06:42.16 | Hopscotch | good morning |
| 06:45.07 | blkhawk[work] | morning |
| 07:36.55 | LaF0rge | "good morning, everyone" [TM] |
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| 07:52.08 | blkhawk[work] | hehe |
| 07:52.37 | stefan_schmidt | good morning |
| 07:57.24 | LaF0rge | ;) |
| 07:58.03 | stefan_schmidt | next year GPRS/UMTS flatrate |
| 08:03.00 | stefan_schmidt | They block ssh and the port for my openvpn setup. arghSomething interesting happened |
| 08:03.07 | stefan_schmidt | ? |
| 08:03.38 | Hopscotch | they != someone :D |
| 08:20.45 | stefan_schmidt | It's done by the official network crew. One DSL light port (786/128) for 160 people. |
| 08:22.01 | blkhawk[work] | O-o |
| 08:22.08 | blkhawk[work] | stefan_schmidt: thats not much |
| 08:22.32 | blkhawk[work] | you get 4,8kbps for each person |
| 08:22.41 | blkhawk[work] | thats less than a modem would get ya |
| 08:29.06 | koen | stuff like wondershaper+squid does wonders in such a situation |
| 08:48.45 | stefan_schmidt | blkhawk[work]: Yes |
| 08:48.59 | stefan_schmidt | koen: shaping is on the way. i hope so. |
| 09:04.38 | LaF0rge | well, it's enough for irc ;) |
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| 09:24.00 | stefan_schmidt | no mail without ssh for me. :( |
| 09:25.04 | LaF0rge | stefan: I use compressed batched uucp over ssl when travelling to low-bandwidth-intermittent-connection areas |
| 09:25.35 | LaF0rge | http://svn.gnumonks.org/trunk/doc/uucp-over-ssl.sgml |
| 09:34.53 | stefan_schmidt | Looks interesting. My first idea was rsync my mail folder over compressed ssh |
| 09:35.10 | stefan_schmidt | But rsync has more overhead |
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| 12:42.46 | jonwil | hi |
| 12:44.48 | koen | hey jonwil |
| 12:44.57 | jonwil | hows things going? |
| 12:45.32 | koen | expansys still hasn't delivered the phone |
| 12:48.39 | jonwil | ok |
| 13:48.12 | [g2] | koen / mickeyl can I just boot the the image on transflash ? |
| 13:51.56 | koen | [g2]: if you first partition is ext2/ext3, yes |
| 13:52.49 | parmaster | koen: what model did you get? |
| 13:54.10 | koen | parmaster: a780/asian |
| 13:56.36 | parmaster | ah, nice |
| 13:56.58 | parmaster | how much was it? |
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| 14:43.47 | koen | parmaster: E500 inclusive 512MB TF |
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| 15:45.10 | parmaster | expensive |
| 15:46.42 | LaF0rge | koen:: 500EUR for the asian model? |
| 15:46.46 | LaF0rge | that is rediculous |
| 15:47.46 | blkhawk | must be the gold plated model with the diamond studs |
| 15:50.36 | koen | LaF0rge: the european model was the same price |
| 15:50.41 | koen | as was the us version |
| 15:50.54 | koen | I couldn't get it cheaper in .nl |
| 15:52.17 | koen | and since I was accepted at the google soc I though "what the hell" |
| 15:53.35 | blkhawk | koen: just walking into a store in germany and buing it would only have set you back 360eur |
| 15:53.47 | blkhawk | probably less |
| 15:53.57 | blkhawk | but i agree |
| 15:54.16 | blkhawk | "what the heck" |
| 15:54.21 | blkhawk | if its payed anyway |
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| 18:19.09 | mickeyl | blkhawk: i don't think so. i couldn't find it in germany for less than 470EUR. Where is that magic shop where you can get it for 360? In that case I buy another one. |
| 18:19.20 | koen | heh |
| 18:19.31 | koen | don't forget to save for a macbook pro ;) |
| 18:19.41 | mickeyl | that's right |
| 18:19.54 | koen | or for a s101 |
| 18:19.54 | mickeyl | now that I'm unemployed i need to go a bit more slowly with expenses |
| 18:20.02 | mickeyl | mmmh... the ROAD device, yes |
| 18:20.08 | mickeyl | or a HTC uni |
| 18:20.39 | koen | a uni is quite cheap second hand |
| 18:20.46 | koen | or with a subscription |
| 18:28.11 | mickeyl | seriously I would be interested to get one for backup if there's a shop selling them for 360 |
| 18:36.03 | SuN | mickeyl: http://www.myworldphone.com/motorolaa780.html |
| 18:36.09 | SuN | Asian model though, no GPS. |
| 18:37.03 | mickeyl | oh. $329 |
| 18:37.04 | mickeyl | that's not bad |
| 18:37.28 | SuN | Especially not with recent Euro/Dollar rates :) |
| 18:37.33 | koen | grrrrr |
| 18:37.33 | mickeyl | indeed |
| 18:37.42 | koen | ~lart euro-dollar rate |
| 18:37.48 | mickeyl | i think i even have that on my paypal |
| 18:39.54 | mickeyl | hmm how many hardware similarities do a780 and a1200 have? |
| 18:39.57 | mickeyl | many? |
| 18:40.44 | koen | according to the ml 'not too many' |
| 18:41.03 | mickeyl | hmm. k |
| 18:41.13 | koen | you could look at the defconfigs in the kernelsource(s) |
| 18:41.30 | mickeyl | oh right |
| 18:51.20 | [g2] | I ordered that A780 for $263 US |
| 18:51.46 | koen | yeah, but you live in the us |
| 18:51.57 | koen | most shops don't ship to europe |
| 18:52.03 | koen | and the duty tax isn't funny anymore |
| 18:52.28 | [g2] | I think there may be some worldwide companies |
| 18:52.44 | koen | [g2]: http://vanille.de/temp/a780/DSC02822.JPG |
| 18:53.15 | [g2] | sweet! so it arrived ? |
| 18:53.30 | koen | that's mickeyl's a780 :) |
| 18:53.39 | koen | mine's due tuesday(ish) |
| 18:54.05 | [g2] | heh I may get mine before you :) |
| 18:54.20 | [g2] | but I may need to get a transflash chip |
| 18:54.44 | koen | I ordered a 512MB for E24 in the same order |
| 18:54.54 | [g2] | so basically format the first partition in ext2/3 and boot to it ? |
| 18:55.03 | koen | so now I have cf, sd, rs-mmc and tf for my toys |
| 18:55.09 | koen | format, untar, boot |
| 18:55.31 | [g2] | j/k |
| 18:55.47 | [g2] | koen are you running bluez on the loft ? |
| 18:55.54 | koen | not yet |
| 18:56.00 | koen | I did run in on the slug |
| 18:58.59 | koen | install kernel modules, bluez-utils, done |
| 18:59.17 | [g2] | koen next week I'd like to beta a ubuntu dapper building openezx, angstrom and the loft for madwiifi (less the Intel CSR drivers) |
| 18:59.40 | [g2] | I'd like to setup a torrent seed for the livecd |
| 18:59.49 | [g2] | or livecd/installer |
| 19:00.14 | [g2] | and when 6.06 releases it'll just be a minor tweak to be on that release |
| 19:00.31 | [g2] | openezx builds now, I'll be testing when I get the phone |
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| 19:55.13 | blkhawk | LaF0rge: bye |
| 20:03.42 | ao2 | hallo |
| 20:07.25 | [g2] | see you LaF0rge |
| 20:08.36 | mickeyl | cu LaF0rge |
| 20:08.49 | mickeyl | i can't find out whether there a HW difference between the e680 and the e680i? |
| 20:08.54 | mickeyl | + is |
| 20:09.41 | mickeyl | (the defconfigs are not from the same date, so hardly comparable) |
| 20:09.48 | blkhawk | I don't think there much of a diufferenve |
| 20:10.06 | mickeyl | thanks. yeah, from a review: "The differences are mostly in software than in hardware (the E680 can be flashed with E680i's ROM)" |
| 20:10.35 | [g2] | mickeyl I like the pics on the a780 :) |
| 20:11.04 | mickeyl | [g2]: :) documenting the progress I make with the device. soon Opie hopefully |
| 20:11.56 | [g2] | mickeyl so are you interested in the ubuntu exz/angstrom torrent at all ? |
| 20:13.13 | mickeyl | sure. it's good to make it a bit easier for people to build |
| 20:13.54 | [g2] | ok well we may want to sync do a different monotone repo |
| 20:14.21 | [g2] | I noticed the ezx appears to be pulling from svn now |
| 20:15.42 | stefan_schmidt | mickeyl: I give a presentation about openezx tomorrow at 20:00. Running Opie would be so cool : |
| 20:15.45 | stefan_schmidt | ;) |
| 20:16.00 | [g2] | stefan_schmidt GL with the presentation |
| 20:16.37 | stefan_schmidt | hmm |
| 20:16.55 | mickeyl | stefan_schmidt: true. I'm having some problems with the rootfs atm. though... as soon as I enable some options that are necessary for Opie I no longer can access the phone |
| 20:17.17 | mickeyl | stefan_schmidt: I'll do another hacking session 2h later tonite. cross fingers for us :) |
| 20:17.26 | stefan_schmidt | :) |
| 21:01.53 | mickeyl | hmm darn |
| 21:02.07 | mickeyl | the device boots up nice |
| 21:02.15 | mickeyl | but then reconfigures the network interfaces due to /etc/interfaces |
| 21:02.25 | mickeyl | and i have no chance to stop that from happening |
| 21:02.30 | mickeyl | which means i can't get in |
| 21:02.36 | mickeyl | ~lart usb0 |
| 21:09.40 | stefan_schmidt | mickeyl: Why not change interfaces to you needs? |
| 21:11.20 | mickeyl | well |
| 21:11.30 | mickeyl | i have no idea which adress usb0 on the device now has |
| 21:11.35 | mickeyl | and whether it's up or not |
| 21:11.41 | mickeyl | and i can't log in to find out heh |
| 21:11.44 | mickeyl | chicken and egg problem |
| 21:11.51 | mickeyl | it's stuck on a opie welcome screen :) |
| 21:14.40 | stefan_schmidt | Standard IP should be 192.168.1.2 |
| 21:14.59 | mickeyl | yes. that's before the device boots |
| 21:15.26 | mickeyl | s/boots/goes to runlevel 5 |
| 21:15.50 | mickeyl | *sigh* time to remove the transflash again and remove usb from /etc/interfaces, maybe that'll help |
| 21:17.19 | stefan_schmidt | you mean it change the address in runlevel 5? |
| 21:18.48 | mickeyl | somewhere along the path, yes |
| 21:18.56 | mickeyl | due to "standard" networking getting set up |
| 21:19.05 | mickeyl | reading and configuring from /etc/interfaces |
| 21:23.12 | blkhawk | hehehehe |
| 21:23.13 | blkhawk | http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/bigphotos/3286008.html |
| 21:23.27 | blkhawk | read the description of the picture |
| 21:50.59 | mickeyl | no chance, i can't get in |
| 21:51.13 | mickeyl | NETDEV WATCHDOG: usb0: transmit timed out |
| 21:51.21 | mickeyl | *sigh* |
| 21:52.09 | mickeyl | we need a keyboard driver that lets us type commands via the phone keys |
| 21:55.54 | blkhawk | I would settele for a BT keyboard driver |
| 21:56.01 | blkhawk | or maybe a serail keyboard driver |
| 21:56.11 | blkhawk | might work better |
| 21:56.18 | mickeyl | yeah, but serial is tough... needs soldering |
| 22:01.00 | mickeyl | aaargh |
| 22:01.03 | mickeyl | ~lart LaF0rge |
| 22:01.14 | mickeyl | heh |
| 22:01.23 | mickeyl | LaF0rge modified /etc/network/interfaces in his OZ rootfs |
| 22:01.27 | mickeyl | 'auto usb0' |
| 22:01.30 | mickeyl | that's missing on mine |
| 22:01.32 | mickeyl | :D |
| 22:01.39 | mickeyl | no wonder it doesn't get setup |
| 22:04.29 | blkhawk | heh |
| 22:08.47 | mickeyl | urghs |
| 22:08.49 | mickeyl | oh what a timing |
| 22:08.54 | mickeyl | now the battery is empty |
| 22:09.08 | mickeyl | ok, enough a780 work for today |
| 22:09.11 | mickeyl | tomorrow I'll continue |
| 22:10.50 | mickeyl | last teaser... |
| 22:10.57 | blkhawk | mickeyl: i meant that the serial can be done with the mini-usb plug |
| 22:11.08 | blkhawk | it has an uart mode |
| 22:11.22 | blkhawk | and that should be enough to drive one of the old palm keyboards |
| 22:11.59 | mickeyl | right |
| 22:12.02 | mickeyl | g'night |
| 22:12.05 | mickeyl | oh... here it is: http://www.vanille.de/temp/a780/DSC02830.JPG |
| 22:12.33 | blkhawk | night |
| 22:12.43 | blkhawk | yay |
| 22:12.46 | blkhawk | :P |
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| 22:55.13 | lpotter_ | nice |
| 23:00.49 | blkhawk | night |
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| 23:31.53 | stefan_schmidt | yeah, 180l free beer at lugcamp |
| 23:32.06 | stefan_schmidt | cu tomorrow. :) |
| 23:37.36 | webmind | gnite, hf |
| 23:37.44 | webmind | good luck |
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| 23:45.46 | jonwil | hi |
