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| 00:27.32 | jonwil | hi |
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| 08:56.15 | Hopscotch | good morning |
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| 10:38.41 | stefan_schmidt | hi |
| 10:40.55 | blkhawk | lo |
| 10:41.00 | blkhawk | whats up? |
| 10:43.05 | stefan_schmidt | hmm, nothing? |
| 10:43.51 | blkhawk | dang |
| 10:44.02 | stefan_schmidt | I've got a nice weekend with my girlfriend. So no hacking here. |
| 10:45.03 | blkhawk | I went to linuxtag yesterday |
| 10:52.13 | stefan_schmidt | ah, i thinked also about it, but I'll be on LugCamp and 23C3 already. And my girlfreind thinks i need more time with her. And she is right here. |
| 10:52.29 | stefan_schmidt | linuxtag was good? |
| 10:53.01 | file | Italy! |
| 10:53.28 | stefan_schmidt | file: How long is your devel conference? |
| 10:53.36 | file | I leave Friday |
| 10:54.06 | stefan_schmidt | meeting + holiday, or only meeting the hole time? |
| 10:54.41 | file | evenings are unplanned :D |
| 10:55.05 | file | yeekz, European customs is so... |
| 10:55.10 | file | or Italian customs? |
| 10:55.14 | file | I have no clue how it works here... |
| 10:55.27 | file | but regardless, they are so... untalkative |
| 10:57.55 | stefan_schmidt | hmm |
| 10:59.00 | blkhawk | well |
| 10:59.22 | blkhawk | I did only see three of the events due to the shortness of time left |
| 10:59.29 | blkhawk | but it certainly was informative |
| 10:59.42 | blkhawk | I saw a talk about ebook on mobile (linux) devices |
| 11:00.30 | stefan_schmidt | normal pdf software or something special? |
| 11:00.36 | blkhawk | have the motorola phones got a acessible framebuffer? |
| 11:00.42 | blkhawk | no pdf actually |
| 11:00.55 | file | and in other news, my A780 is working great... but my provider's SIM card is toast |
| 11:01.12 | blkhawk | file: joy |
| 11:01.22 | blkhawk | pdb and reb formats |
| 11:01.31 | file | "Invalid SIM Card" |
| 11:05.00 | blkhawk | bye |
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| 13:09.25 | ao2 | Hallo. I'm having always problems with mounting my rootfs from transflash. Could it be a voltage problem? I have a 1Gb card. |
| 13:11.35 | ao2 | I tried increasing rootdelay to 10 secpnds, it worked a couple of times only. So I suspect something left do fix in the driver. Any comments? |
| 13:17.45 | blkhawk | not fromme ;) |
| 13:19.35 | stefan_schmidt | ao2: Sorry, i can't help here. My biggest transflash card is 512MB and works without any problem. |
| 13:29.23 | stefan_schmidt | ao2: Does the card works fine with the pre installed system every time? |
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| 15:30.54 | blkhawk | yummy |
| 15:31.06 | blkhawk | My namesake on motofans really does great work |
| 15:31.08 | blkhawk | :P |
| 15:31.20 | blkhawk | Just tried the OpiePlayer he made |
| 15:33.06 | stefan_schmidt | blkhawk: Waht does OpiePlayer do? |
| 15:34.17 | blkhawk | its a Mp3/ogg/mpg player port |
| 15:34.23 | blkhawk | that runs with codecs |
| 15:34.54 | blkhawk | the playlist support is outstanding |
| 15:35.34 | blkhawk | its a port of opieplayer for EZX |
| 15:35.37 | blkhawk | runs native |
| 15:35.43 | blkhawk | and hasa nice UI |
| 15:35.48 | blkhawk | http://www.motorolafans.com/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=3795 |
| 15:36.02 | blkhawk | there should be a few sshots |
| 15:36.18 | blkhawk | and the beta version on page 3 or so of the post |
| 15:37.01 | blkhawk | has a cool OSD for volume |
| 15:37.16 | blkhawk | the keypad isn't fully working for some reason tho |
| 15:37.26 | blkhawk | maybe because it was made for an e380 |
| 15:37.43 | blkhawk | unlike playator the buttons are huge tho |
| 15:37.52 | blkhawk | no trouble hitting them with the tumb |
| 15:38.09 | stefan_schmidt | fine |
| 15:38.26 | stefan_schmidt | does ogg play works good? |
| 15:38.54 | blkhawk | no idea - I am almost excuively mp3 |
| 15:39.11 | blkhawk | it seem to work tho - unless your ogg contains chinese chars that is |
| 15:39.32 | blkhawk | if one is beliving what other people wrote in the thread |
| 15:40.39 | stefan_schmidt | ok |
| 15:41.28 | blkhawk | it even remembers the playlist on startup |
| 15:41.31 | blkhawk | i'm in love |
| 15:41.55 | stefan_schmidt | :) |
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| 19:51.17 | stefan_schmidt | hi |
| 20:14.07 | blkhawk | lo |
| 21:19.44 | webmind | phone seems to work again |
| 21:19.56 | webmind | now to find out how you set the clock |
| 21:23.02 | webmind | found it :) |
| 21:24.10 | stefan_schmidt | webmind: cool. So the A780 is washing machine proof. ;) |
| 21:24.50 | webmind | uhm |
| 21:24.55 | webmind | mine was.. once |
| 21:25.01 | webmind | :) |
| 21:25.03 | blobster | :D |
| 21:25.11 | webmind | haven't tested gps though |
| 21:25.15 | webmind | or bt |
| 21:25.34 | webmind | so not 100% sure yet, but my guess is they'll work |
| 21:26.00 | stefan_schmidt | ok |
| 21:26.40 | stefan_schmidt | webmind: So keep us informed once you have tested it. |
| 21:26.48 | webmind | I will |
| 21:27.05 | webmind | I kinda started disliking the phone now though |
| 21:27.15 | webmind | I think it's evil :) |
| 21:27.22 | SuN | Heh, kinda like the "first scratch" thing? |
| 21:27.32 | webmind | dunno that |
| 21:27.47 | webmind | it's just that I don't think that anything should get me so much upset |
| 21:27.48 | SuN | The first scratch makes any gadget a lot less appealing to me. |
| 21:28.16 | webmind | it felt like when I broke my usb stick with the crypto key to my 10gb photo collection |
| 21:28.34 | blobster | somehow I always manage to damage my phones soon after I buy them... After that nothing happens to them.. |
| 21:28.47 | SuN | Woa, I can't imagine what was on those photos :) |
| 21:28.51 | webmind | I don't care about scratches... |
| 21:29.15 | webmind | SuN, lots of thing I've encountered and seen in quite some years time |
| 21:29.29 | webmind | places I've been to |
| 21:29.31 | SuN | Why was it encrypted? |
| 21:29.34 | webmind | people I knew |
| 21:29.53 | webmind | SuN, I had most of by data encrypted by defaulyt |
| 21:29.55 | webmind | default |
| 21:30.17 | SuN | Hm alright. |
| 21:30.20 | SuN | Major bummer. |
| 21:30.32 | webmind | quite |
| 21:30.36 | webmind | but I survived |
| 21:31.27 | stefan_schmidt | SuN: My complete notebook hdd is crypted. |
| 21:31.51 | stefan_schmidt | I don#t like to think about what happened if i lost my notebook. |
| 21:32.32 | stefan_schmidt | I can buy a new one, but i dislike the idea _somebody_ can look into my private stuff. :) |
| 21:32.41 | SuN | Depends on what kind of data you have, I guess.. I can't think of anything I have to hide. |
| 21:34.47 | stefan_schmidt | hmm, i've a lot. |
| 21:35.15 | stefan_schmidt | Private emails, working stuff, pictures of your girlfriend... |
| 21:35.31 | stefan_schmidt | ups, of course of my girlfriend |
| 21:35.37 | SuN | Haha |
| 21:35.39 | SuN | Nice one |
| 21:35.51 | stefan_schmidt | ;) |
| 21:36.02 | blobster | :) |
| 21:36.45 | blobster | stefan_schmidt: No wonder you want to keep your data encrypted |
| 21:36.47 | SuN | So.. is there anything known about sms messages are stored on the phone? |
| 21:36.52 | SuN | Are they in a db of some sort? |
| 21:38.25 | stefan_schmidt | don't know |
| 21:40.18 | stefan_schmidt | blkhawk: The real problem i see at my working stuff and private emails. |
| 21:40.29 | SuN | Once Harald progresses writing the SPI driver, I guess it's time to get started on an environment that adds something to Motorola's platform. |
| 21:41.03 | SuN | I think Gomunicator is cute, but it's not exactly what I have in mind in terms of usability. |
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| 21:41.47 | stefan_schmidt | SuN: The question is if we try to be backward compatible and have a working 2.6 kernel with the moto software or using another enviroment |
| 21:42.15 | stefan_schmidt | _All_ people here have different ideas of that. :) |
| 21:42.17 | SuN | You mean sticking with ezx? |
| 21:42.23 | stefan_schmidt | yes |
| 21:42.27 | SuN | Hm |
| 21:42.36 | SuN | ...why? :) |
| 21:42.46 | stefan_schmidt | Personally i don't like it. To bloady. |
| 21:42.51 | stefan_schmidt | :) |
| 21:42.56 | blkhawk | ya |
| 21:43.02 | stefan_schmidt | OK, so no ezx. |
| 21:43.10 | blkhawk | mucht to bloaty |
| 21:43.24 | SuN | It can probably be optimized here and there, but it's going to be a pain in the behind, since it's closed. |
| 21:43.27 | blkhawk | some of the interface logic is all wrong |
| 21:43.42 | blkhawk | the buttons are too small |
| 21:44.12 | stefan_schmidt | OK, so GPE, OPIE or from scratch? |
| 21:44.30 | SuN | The dial pad is somewhat okish, but it could be larger. I'd like to see more "finger" access, and better use of the keys on the phone. |
| 21:44.40 | SuN | Right now you can't even press Ok without touching the screen. |
| 21:45.14 | SuN | I'm not sure... either we try Opie and borrow Trolltech's Qtopia smartphone edition apps, or build on GPE. |
| 21:45.55 | SuN | Both platforms are a good base... it's the applications that need considering. |
| 21:46.21 | SuN | GPE can run any X app without considerable porting, but Opie already has a nice base of PDA-aimed apps. |
| 21:46.27 | stefan_schmidt | And of course we need discussion with other linux phone hackers, like blueangel xda. |
| 21:47.04 | SuN | Yeah, combined efforts for a GPE or Opie Smartphone edition are certainly what we want. |
| 21:47.30 | stefan_schmidt | Perhaps somebody like to start a discussion about this on the ml. We have a bigger audience there. |
| 21:47.46 | SuN | ...hmm, what mailing list is that? :P |
| 21:47.59 | stefan_schmidt | openezx-devel |
| 22:02.10 | blkhawk | night |
| 22:02.11 | SuN | G'nigth |
| 22:02.15 | SuN | night |
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| 22:42.58 | jonwil | hi |
| 22:46.11 | SuN | Hi |
| 22:46.18 | blkhawk | hi |
| 22:52.11 | jonwil | any news to report? |
| 22:54.08 | SuN | Not that _I_ know of. |
| 22:55.18 | SuN | Hmmm.. an open source phone platform seems quite the endeavor. |
| 22:55.37 | SuN | I'm reading up on WM 5, there's a lot of tiny things that need taking care of. |
| 23:24.46 | blkhawk | SuN: i agree - no way a small community can do all that |
| 23:26.44 | SuN | We can try, though :) |
| 23:26.53 | SuN | Hm, I'm starting to really not like Opie. |
| 23:28.31 | SuN | They just keep cramming lots of stuff in too little space. |