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| 18:05.56 | stefan_schmidt | hi |
| 18:08.53 | blkhawk | lo |
| 18:13.13 | stefan_schmidt | something interesting happened? |
| 18:17.30 | blkhawk | nope |
| 18:18.40 | ao2 | harald have usb-net working in his kernel, and it seems that he solved the userspace proble, but i do not know _how_ |
| 18:19.03 | ao2 | i read that on http://planet.openezx.org/ |
| 18:22.43 | blkhawk | that sounds quite good |
| 18:22.51 | blkhawk | I hope he can get the TF to work |
| 18:23.03 | blkhawk | after that i will be tempted to try it |
| 18:23.37 | blkhawk | in fact after that we have almost everything for a semi-functional phone ;D |
| 18:25.04 | ao2 | err, indeed we have a functional linux system, without telephony support :) |
| 18:25.45 | blkhawk | well you can already do calls via AT commands or am I wrong? |
| 18:26.32 | ao2 | maybe, i am not sure about voice calls |
| 18:28.13 | blkhawk | ao2: we would need a functioonal dsp for that |
| 18:28.25 | blkhawk | but i don't think the dsp was ever a problem |
| 18:30.30 | ao2 | need to reboot, sorry. bye |
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| 18:35.45 | LaF0rge | hi |
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| 18:37.24 | blkhawk | hi |
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| 20:10.59 | ao2 | good evening (for the ones in Europe :)) |
| 20:12.12 | stefan_schmidt | hi |
| 20:12.36 | LaF0rge | hi |
| 20:12.56 | LaF0rge | ao2: I'm currently in brazil, and it's evening (5:13), too. |
| 20:13.20 | ao2 | sure :) |
| 20:13.52 | stefan_schmidt | timezones are funny |
| 20:28.38 | LaF0rge | at the moment everything looks like I'll have to sue Motorola |
| 20:29.13 | LaF0rge | they honestly now stopped selling the A780 in germany |
| 20:29.37 | LaF0rge | and think they can therefore avoid becoming gpl compliant, because they think I won't be doing legal enforcement in other countries |
| 20:39.37 | blkhawk | LaF0rge: they stopped selling it? why? |
| 20:39.38 | blkhawk | :( |
| 20:46.07 | blkhawk | it's the funnest phone eva ;) |
| 20:52.39 | stefan_schmidt | oh, that are bad news. |
| 20:53.03 | stefan_schmidt | why are big companies so stupid? |
| 20:56.26 | SuN | I'm guessing the 780 simply went out of production though... |
| 20:56.29 | LaF0rge | they just stopped selling it in germany |
| 20:56.30 | LaF0rge | no |
| 20:56.36 | LaF0rge | it's still sold in the us and asia |
| 20:56.36 | SuN | Hmm |
| 20:57.04 | SuN | Well even if they're not still selling it, the owners of the copyrighted code can get compensation for the phones already sold. |
| 20:57.35 | SuN | It's not directly going to get the code released, but at least there'd be some money to be spent on OSS. |
| 20:58.02 | SuN | Wtf were they thinking, stealing GPL code without any consequence? |
| 20:58.26 | SuN | I can't believe a billion dollar company is that stupid. |
| 21:01.08 | stefan_schmidt | good night |
| 21:06.15 | file | SuN: lots of companies are like that |
| 21:07.14 | SuN | :( |
| 21:07.27 | SuN | It's time more people stood up. |
| 21:07.40 | SuN | Harald is doing a good job, but more organisation would help. |
| 21:10.58 | SuN | When my law course progresses, I'm hoping to be able to help. |
| 21:20.57 | blkhawk | I'm still thinking this is all just stupid corporate inertia |
| 21:21.13 | blkhawk | basically nobody high enough gives a rats ass |
| 21:21.50 | file | 'tis a money and risk game they play... less money to develop, higher risk of being caught... do the savings outweigh the risk? apparently |
| 21:24.36 | blkhawk | file: I doubt anybody throught about that - its just that the resources scheduled for GPL complyance are about 1/10th of an unpayed intern that worked the summer over at the local Motorola headquaters on the falkland islands |
| 21:25.46 | SuN | Well somehow they have a multitude of that workforce scanning the internet for GPL software they can use. |
| 21:26.44 | SuN | In my opinion, we need a few serious cases (and win them) to create precedents. |
| 21:27.14 | SuN | That would convince any author of GPL software to come up for his/her rights... if the people know they have a chance. |
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