| 00:05.02 | noda | Ooh cool, MySQL 5.0.0 is out, with stored procedures. |
| 00:05.10 | pb_ | oh dear, ipv6 support in busybox wget seems to be broken again. |
| 00:08.05 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 00:09.11 | mickeyl | overrating things is overrated |
| 00:09.30 | Captain-Obvious | mickeyl: I'm sort of filling in for kergoth with on the cluebat |
| 00:09.47 | pb_ | Captain-Obvious: kergoth would only have said that once. |
| 00:09.55 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 00:10.01 | mickeyl | you're getting there |
| 00:10.27 | Captain-Obvious | but I'm not a kernel hacker yet |
| 00:10.42 | Captain-Obvious | use the source luke! |
| 00:11.25 | mickeyl | ljp: any idea why your upgraded qmake 1.05a in HEAD no longer generates the PRO line as did qmake 1.04a in BRANCH ? Hence breaking opie-lupdate... |
| 00:14.01 | ljp | my update? |
| 00:14.11 | mickeyl | yup. iirc you upgraded qmake :) |
| 00:14.22 | ljp | I did? |
| 00:14.49 | pb_ | no, it was the other ljp. |
| 00:15.04 | mickeyl | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:15.04 | mickeyl | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:15.04 | mickeyl | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:15.04 | mickeyl | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:15.04 | mickeyl | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:15.12 | mickeyl | there you are |
| 00:15.23 | ljp | hmm |
| 00:15.52 | ljp | I suspect someone hacked into the cvs log and put that in there |
| 00:15.56 | ljp | :) |
| 00:16.19 | ljp | so we havent had lupdate in 5 months? |
| 00:16.24 | mickeyl | exactly |
| 00:16.29 | mickeyl | it was broken since then in HEAD |
| 00:16.30 | ljp | eeech |
| 00:16.41 | mickeyl | which was not so hard since we used BRANCH anyway |
| 00:16.52 | mickeyl | but now BRANCH is dead and it would be good to have HEAD in shape |
| 00:17.06 | mickeyl | so the question is where does qmake 1.05a hides the PRO line in the Makefile |
| 00:19.28 | mickeyl | qmake 1.04a does it like that in unix/unixmake2.cpp |
| 00:19.34 | mickeyl | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:20.11 | mickeyl | this line is missing in 1.05a |
| 00:20.33 | ljp | maybe try qmake from 3.2.2 |
| 00:20.53 | mickeyl | feel free |
| 00:20.58 | ljp | 1.05a is from 3.1.2 |
| 00:21.03 | mickeyl | last time i wanted to upgrade qmake to something newer it was a nightmare |
| 00:21.11 | ljp | hmm |
| 00:21.16 | mickeyl | maybe you're more familiar with it |
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| 00:21.50 | ljp | just have to probably update everything from qt3 thats there |
| 00:22.47 | ljp | heh basically, opie has been distributing nearly all of qt-x11 3.1.2 also |
| 00:23.12 | pb_ | eleet. |
| 00:23.24 | mickeyl | huh? |
| 00:23.29 | mickeyl | where did we? |
| 00:23.45 | ljp | look in the qmake subdirs |
| 00:23.51 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 00:23.55 | mickeyl | i don't see a single widget |
| 00:24.05 | mickeyl | nor a painting device |
| 00:24.18 | mickeyl | nor network or socket classes |
| 00:24.29 | ljp | nearly I said |
| 00:24.37 | mickeyl | umm |
| 00:24.46 | mickeyl | interesting definition of nearly |
| 00:24.59 | ljp | perhaps a bit exagerated |
| 00:25.02 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 00:27.49 | ljp | whats silly is someone really needs 5 packages from trolltech to create Qtopia |
| 00:28.08 | mickeyl | right. make it more self-contained |
| 00:28.32 | ljp | well, tmake is going away |
| 00:28.53 | mickeyl | we need moc, uic and qmake |
| 00:28.59 | mickeyl | that makes 3 packages? |
| 00:29.03 | mickeyl | what did i miss? |
| 00:29.31 | mickeyl | ah you meant qtopia, not opie |
| 00:30.39 | ljp | currently you need, tmake-1.11, qt-2.3.2, qte-2.3.8, qtopia, and qt-x11-3.x |
| 00:30.46 | ljp | ya qtopia |
| 00:31.08 | mickeyl | hah |
| 00:31.11 | mickeyl | call me hacker |
| 00:31.35 | ljp | you hacker, you |
| 00:31.47 | ljp | qmake will be in qtopia, also |
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| 00:32.46 | ljp | I would yank that whole thing from qtopia, but it hasnt been released yet |
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| 00:33.08 | Twiun | ljp: btw, did you make whatever announcement you were sitting on? |
| 00:33.25 | mickeyl | I'm still waiting for good news from 'ya |
| 00:33.33 | mickeyl | ibot: pester ljp |
| 00:33.36 | | ljp: Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? |
| 00:33.43 | mewyn | ibot: pester ibot |
| 00:33.45 | | ibot: Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? |
| 00:33.51 | mewyn | >.> |
| 00:35.03 | ljp | I got some good news: they are letting me work here for the next 4 years, at least |
| 00:35.29 | Twiun | who did you have to sleep with? |
| 00:35.44 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 00:35.49 | mickeyl | congrats |
| 00:35.49 | ljp | spent the last 2 months, 'not working' because of an immigration/visa blunder |
| 00:35.53 | mickeyl | but where's the good news for us? |
| 00:35.55 | mickeyl | ;) |
| 00:36.17 | ljp | god news is that we will need another developer here |
| 00:36.23 | ljp | good, rather |
| 00:36.35 | mickeyl | employ zecke |
| 00:37.18 | ljp | :D |
| 00:37.19 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 00:37.21 | mickeyl | that'd be coool |
| 00:37.52 | ljp | he would have to move here, though |
| 00:37.56 | Twiun | I'd best get zecke onto the QtAWT pestering too... |
| 00:39.16 | ljp | :) |
| 00:40.00 | Twiun | convert him before you get him the beach babes |
| 00:43.47 | ljp | ahh, nice a cool today |
| 00:48.50 | treke|home | ah.nothing like sleeping through saturday |
| 00:49.11 | mickeyl | does qte build in oe for anyone? |
| 00:49.13 | ljp | ya, its already sunday! |
| 00:49.30 | pb_ | so it is. |
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| 00:50.02 | treke|home | anyone tried booting an oe image lately? |
| 00:50.16 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 00:50.23 | mickeyl | :D |
| 00:50.36 | pb_ | "oeimage", I think. |
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| 00:51.02 | mickeyl | ah |
| 00:51.09 | mickeyl | and need to populate OEFILES before? |
| 00:51.12 | pb_ | yah |
| 00:51.12 | treke|home | and wasnt someone packaging opie? |
| 00:51.31 | mickeyl | yeah i thought someone was doing that |
| 00:51.45 | pb_ | oeimage seems to just do the mkfs.jffs2 bit. you need to have run oeinstall to populate the rootfs tree prior to that. |
| 00:51.58 | mickeyl | pb_: ah i se |
| 00:52.01 | mickeyl | see even |
| 00:52.30 | pb_ | I should add a bootloader to the tree so that I can actually make bootable images. that'd be kind of exciting. |
| 00:52.41 | treke|home | its wierd. ipkg cant install the .ipks and busybox can't extract them |
| 00:53.10 | pb_ | freaky. they aren't corrupt or anything? |
| 00:53.27 | treke|home | Every ipk I've tried, and debian's ar works |
| 00:54.02 | pb_ | Ah. |
| 00:54.27 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 00:56.44 | pb_ | hell, debian has destroyed my system again. |
| 00:57.08 | pb_ | somehow python has been uninstalled. |
| 00:57.11 | treke|home | pb_: Finally got debian on my laptop, it's working very nicely :) |
| 00:57.14 | pb_ | worse, su has been uninstalled as well. |
| 00:57.37 | pb_ | treke|home: aha :-) |
| 00:57.53 | treke|home | pb_: Someone had some updated boot floppy isos built with 2.4.23 |
| 00:58.01 | pb_ | oh, no, that was my fault. |
| 00:58.31 | pb_ | looks like I incautiously set my $PATH to something that didn't include any of the usual directories. |
| 00:59.04 | pb_ | treke|home: oh right, cool. |
| 00:59.18 | Twiun | woops... someone was using my oz sources as their mirror... oh well, guess they're getting lots of 404's |
| 00:59.30 | treke|home | hehe |
| 00:59.38 | Twiun | I did say it was temporary |
| 00:59.52 | treke|home | I need to mirror the pyqt stuff that someone here deleted |
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| 01:03.08 | pb_ | oh dear, grub doesn't seem to build with gcc 3.3. |
| 01:03.23 | treke|home | crumbs |
| 01:03.32 | pb_ | fsys_reiserfs.c:115: error: long, short, signed or unsigned used invalidly for `j_mount_id' |
| 01:03.36 | pb_ | and it's reiser's fault! |
| 01:03.41 | treke|home | computers are just sucking this weekend |
| 01:03.48 | treke|home | maybe we should all switch to windows |
| 01:04.02 | sheenmaster | How slow would the Documents pain be with 130G mounted? |
| 01:04.14 | pb_ | about [ ] that slow |
| 01:04.29 | mickeyl | ah cool |
| 01:04.31 | pb_ | aha, "--disable-reiserfs" |
| 01:04.33 | mickeyl | a new site would be good |
| 01:04.39 | Twiun | sheenmaster: depends... is that just one 130gb file? |
| 01:04.48 | treke|home | sheenmaster: think one legged race horce |
| 01:05.27 | sheenmaster | It doesn't want to give me the satisfaction of trying. |
| 01:06.13 | sheenmaster | sol:/group 9.0G 0 8.9G 0% /group |
| 01:06.21 | sheenmaster | It's frozen trying to mount that. |
| 01:06.35 | sheenmaster | (The df printout it from my laptop) |
| 01:07.32 | sheenmaster | Twiun: Two empty directorys, on a fibre-channel drive. |
| 01:07.37 | sheenmaster | Twiun: otherwise empty |
| 01:08.47 | sheenmaster | it took it's time, but it's mounted |
| 01:09.21 | Twiun | hmmm |
| 01:09.47 | Twiun | no idea why it's so sluggish then |
| 01:10.50 | sheenmaster | It's jealous |
| 01:11.27 | sheenmaster | It's stuck with solid state memory while Sol gets 4 gigs of ram. |
| 01:11.37 | sheenmaster | AND fibre-channel drives |
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| 01:18.16 | pb_ | argh, now I have some automake problem to grapple with. |
| 01:19.42 | ljp | use qmake |
| 01:20.37 | pb_ | as plans go, that's one of the worst I've heard in a while. |
| 01:21.55 | ljp | maybe, but you know who exactly to blame |
| 01:22.48 | pb_ | mm. it starts to sound more appealing. |
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| 03:33.37 | treke|home | god this game is about as bad as it gets |
| 03:34.53 | chouimat | ? |
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| 04:01.05 | treke|home | hmmm |
| 04:01.11 | treke|home | I forgot my root password for mysql |
| 04:02.44 | chouimat | treke|home: which game? |
| 04:03.21 | treke|home | postal 2 |
| 04:03.43 | chouimat | don't know it |
| 04:04.06 | treke|home | chouimat: The silencer for the shot gun involves picking up a cat... |
| 04:04.32 | chouimat | treke|home: ewww |
| 04:05.25 | chouimat | treke|home: let me guess another stupid FPS? |
| 04:05.29 | treke|home | http://kenneyc.freefallsoftware.com/postal2/postal2-Images/7.jpg |
| 04:06.12 | chouimat | treke|home: this is worse than fishhead humor |
| 04:07.16 | treke|home | chouimat: apparently a useful strategy is to piss on a person till they start vomitting |
| 04:07.24 | treke|home | chouimat: then shoot them in the head while they are stunned |
| 04:08.20 | chouimat | treke|home: I think I will go drink a beer in a bar now ... |
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| 05:49.00 | ljp | might help if I wrote to a file when recording |
| 05:52.13 | ljp | *sigh* |
| 06:21.02 | treke|home | cool. now I actually need to pay attention to keeping my server up |
| 06:21.02 | treke|home | :) |
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| 17:39.50 | Bernardo | hi |
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| 17:55.11 | Bernardo | anyone ever tried compiling opie for a x86 system? |
| 17:56.18 | Bernardo | I am having problems at the start of the "make menuconfig", it is failing with error 111 when compiling scripts/kconfig/conf.o |
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| 18:08.34 | mickeyl | error 111 ? never seen that. |
| 18:08.46 | mickeyl | and yes, i compiled opie more than thousand times for x86 |
| 18:08.56 | chouimat | hey mickeyl |
| 18:09.01 | mickeyl | hi chouimat |
| 18:09.27 | chouimat | mickeyl: found Openstep 4.2 intel on bittorrent :) |
| 18:09.50 | mickeyl | interesting. will you install it? |
| 18:10.04 | chouimat | vmware |
| 18:10.41 | mickeyl | ah cool. keep me updated |
| 18:10.56 | chouimat | mickeyl: in about 8hours |
| 18:11.14 | Bernardo | the stranges part is that when I run it (gcc) by hand, with the same parms, it works |
| 18:11.29 | Disconnect | Bernardo: 111? sure its not sig11 or some such? |
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| 18:12.16 | chouimat | no 111 in errno.h |
| 18:12.36 | Bernardo | the stranges part is that when I run it (gcc) by hand, with the same parms, it works |
| 18:12.52 | mickeyl | Bernardo: gcc? |
| 18:16.24 | mickeyl | hah. strike |
| 18:17.53 | Bernardo | sorry, got disconnected for a few minutes (smc router overheating) |
| 18:18.12 | Bernardo | the 111 error is given by make. |
| 18:18.42 | Bernardo | I've by now traced it to being launched inside a script, instead of by hand |
| 18:18.56 | mickeyl | maybe your make is too old |
| 18:19.12 | mickeyl | using 3.80 here |
| 18:19.38 | Bernardo | me too... |
| 18:19.59 | chouimat | http://www.userfriendly.org/ |
| 18:21.46 | Bernardo | my problem is automating install in sourcemage (somewhat like the oe buildroot), it seems that when I do it in a package/automatic form, it fails with error 111 |
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| 18:24.14 | mickeyl | anyone with a c7x0 and a SharpROM based ROM here? |
| 18:24.45 | Disconnect | mickeyl: I could prolly flash cacko sometime today or tomorrow, if you aren't in a huge hurrry |
| 18:26.20 | TMM1 | hello |
| 18:26.34 | mickeyl | Disconnect: that'd be ok. i need a 'cat /tmp/qtembedded.rot/QtEmbedded-0.spec' |
| 18:26.52 | mickeyl | s/rot/root |
| 18:27.18 | mickeyl | I'm making huge progress with the SDL work |
| 18:27.29 | mickeyl | thanks to the japanese folks, of course |
| 18:27.49 | dan2003 | same, i could flash cacko if u want |
| 18:28.28 | dan2003 | just\ let me put the thing back together first |
| 18:28.40 | mickeyl | no hurry. if you happen to want to look @ that rom anyway, then drop me a hint and I'll remind you to do that 'cat' for me |
| 18:30.26 | mickeyl | odd |
| 18:31.29 | mickeyl | treke: ping |
| 18:32.17 | Disconnect | ahh .. might have that anyway, did a backup of cacko recently :) |
| 18:32.19 | Disconnect | lemme check |
| 18:32.58 | mickeyl | probably not, that's a runtime setting |
| 18:33.06 | mickeyl | otherwise I'd looked in the rootfs :) |
| 18:33.57 | Disconnect | mickeyl: took the backup off a running system. but I was smart (too smart for this, unfortunately) and did it one fs at a time. skipped the ramdisk :( |
| 18:34.09 | mickeyl | hehe, nm |
| 18:34.38 | Disconnect | you get it? |
| 18:34.56 | mickeyl | no |
| 18:35.01 | mickeyl | but i can wait |
| 18:35.07 | mickeyl | it's nothing important atm. |
| 18:35.20 | Disconnect | ok .. confused by the 'nevermind' ;) I'll see about flashing in a couple hours, since gpsdrive is hating my ipaq right now. |
| 18:39.32 | mickeyl | ah that reminds me... |
| 18:39.58 | mickeyl | just got the first report that reading from GPS in Wellenreiter works... however i'm displaying the decimal format and not the standard dms format which is confusing people |
| 18:40.01 | mickeyl | gotta fix that |
| 18:44.31 | dan2003 | are the bass and trebble controls in opie mixer applet no implemented or do i need sox or summin installed? |
| 18:48.09 | mickeyl | these are reminders from ipaq which should (normally) be hidden on Zaurii |
| 18:48.25 | mickeyl | s/reminders/leftovers |
| 18:48.41 | mickeyl | but that hiding code is broken since ages and noone cared |
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| 19:24.38 | TMM1 | mickey|dinner: i cares |
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| 20:31.19 | dan2003 | mickey, is 3.3.6-pre1 for c760 built form buildroot or the oe/packages system ? |
| 20:48.37 | treke|home | 2buildroot |
| 20:48.49 | treke|home | oe cannt build working opie images |
| 21:16.04 | ljp | hmm |
| 21:16.29 | chouimat | http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/kmd/index.html |
| 21:18.26 | ljp | how odd, an app whose name starts with a 'K' requires gtk |
| 21:18.46 | ljp | thats too bad |
| 21:19.09 | treke|home | gtk is teh rock |
| 21:19.18 | ljp | uh huh |
| 21:19.19 | treke|home | as long as you dont have to program it |
| 21:19.24 | ljp | :) |
| 21:19.52 | sheenmaster | treke|home: perfection is having a llibrary so awesome that another library has to be written to make it usable. |
| 21:19.54 | sheenmaster | (glade) |
| 21:20.26 | CIA-4 | repository=03buildroot user=11mickey@allanon.vanille.de |
| 21:20.26 | CIA-4 | 07ChangeSet@1.1415 Merge allanon.vanille.de:/usr/local/projects/buildrootinto allanon.vanille.de:/usr/local/projects/openzaurus3 |
| 21:20.41 | ljp | hmm |
| 21:20.49 | ljp | bleh... what should I work on |
| 21:21.40 | mickeyl | treke: how can i check the hinge status again? |
| 21:21.45 | treke|home | ljp: you could work on advanced fm |
| 21:21.55 | ljp | already did that this month. :) |
| 21:21.59 | treke|home | mickeyl: read odevice.cpp |
| 21:22.09 | mickeyl | that's the spirit |
| 21:22.26 | treke|home | Particularly Zaurus::rotation(); |
| 21:22.50 | ljp | you ever get hardware rotation working? |
| 21:23.18 | treke|home | nope |
| 21:23.35 | mickeyl | fwiw, i fixed our SDL to make use of the w100 hardware zoom. i merged the agawa and piro patches and added my own bits to bring it up to 1.2.6cvs. that was freaky work. heh |
| 21:23.44 | treke|home | couldnt figure out how to do the rotation via w100fb |
| 21:23.55 | treke|home | and have qtopia rotate the keys and touchscreen |
| 21:24.13 | treke|home | mickeyl: Ah cool. I'd just been building 1.2.5 since I didnt want to futz with the code |
| 21:24.15 | ljp | hmm |
| 21:24.22 | treke|home | mickeyl: I've got an opie patch for SDL if you want it. |
| 21:24.31 | mickeyl | treke: what does that do? |
| 21:24.39 | treke|home | pretty simple, just generates the .spec file piro's patch looks for |
| 21:25.03 | mickeyl | treke: aaah cooly. been looking for that thing. send it to me, please. mickeyl@handhelds.org |
| 21:25.17 | treke|home | hehe |
| 21:26.29 | ljp | nope. wasn't a white christmas |
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| 21:28.07 | treke|home | mickeyl: I also have a makefile for libetpan, but havent been able to get opiemail to launch to test it |
| 21:28.31 | ljp | you know it was an Aussie penguin that bit Linus? |
| 21:31.07 | Bernardo | 'night |
| 21:41.46 | darkschneider | ljp: i tip you "just for fun" it's linus book, it's quite good :) |
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| 23:04.04 | pb_ | hi all |
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| 23:32.17 | treke|home | yo pb_ |
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