| 00:05.42 | treke|home | guh |
| 00:05.58 | treke|home | trying to get a lease renewal is like pulling teeth here |
| 00:07.14 | lpotter | they know you are a punk |
| 00:07.39 | treke|home | hehe. Maybe so, but my moneys good and on time :p |
| 00:07.39 | lpotter | or are you talking dhcp? |
| 00:08.10 | treke|home | Nah. No one ever remembers to take my name down on the list when my apartment lease comes up |
| 00:11.44 | pb_ | Maybe they're trying to tell you something. |
| 00:11.55 | treke|home | hehe. Maybe so |
| 00:13.31 | lpotter | you can always stay at Neverland |
| 00:13.42 | treke|home | nah. I'm over 13 |
| 00:15.01 | lpotter | thats odd Evanescense was a christian band |
| 00:16.58 | lpotter | thats funny. they were on the christan charts |
| 00:17.44 | treke|home | I always knew those christians had no taste :) |
| 00:18.28 | pb_ | heh |
| 00:21.46 | pb_ | hm. I was thinking I might go to linux.conf.au, but it's just too darned far away. 26 hours and >1000GBP for the flight. |
| 00:22.19 | treke|home | Does the queen not provide free transportatuon to australia anymore? |
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| 00:22.49 | pb_ | Apparently not. She's been incapacitated recently, you know. |
| 00:23.30 | treke|home | I had not heard, what happened? |
| 00:24.23 | lpotter | she got shock that mick jagger was knighted |
| 00:24.58 | pb_ | Well, she was in hospital for a few days, which I guess took her mind off the usually-pressing business of shipping people out to the antipodes. |
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| 00:27.24 | chouimat | lpotter: ozzie and lemy are scheduled for next years :) |
| 00:28.04 | pb_ | that's what I heard as well. |
| 00:28.18 | chouimat | pb_: imagine that GB got to the moon first ... maybe they will have a penal colony there now :) |
| 00:28.42 | pb_ | heheh |
| 00:31.42 | lpotter | sir lemy. now that would be funny |
| 00:36.57 | lpotter | one of the trolls here are decended from one of those banished people |
| 00:39.28 | pb_ | how unfortunate for them. |
| 00:40.12 | pb_ | I guess all the computers are locked to the desks in your office. |
| 00:42.22 | lpotter | heee |
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| 01:02.40 | chuckr | well, I went out and got me a d-link 660. The 760's opie network setup doesn't seem to have anywhere for me to set up the 802.11b stuff. I don't really want to forever pester you guys, but I can't locate anything else to read on how to do this; can I *please* get some help getting my Z alive? I *really*, *really* would appreciate it. |
| 01:04.51 | lpotter | should be on the network settings app |
| 01:04.51 | mickeyl | treke: d'oh! did you know that piro's patch _overclocks_ the Z? |
| 01:05.07 | pb_ | eleet. |
| 01:06.09 | chuckr | for wlan0? |
| 01:06.38 | chuckr | There are entries for eth0, eth1, usbd0, and wlan0 |
| 01:07.08 | chuckr | which should be for the dlink 660 802.11B cf card? |
| 01:08.04 | lpotter | wlan |
| 01:08.18 | chuckr | if it's the wlan0, I must be missing a mod, then, because I have no device wlan0, and ifconfig won't walk about it |
| 01:08.25 | chuckr | talk about it |
| 01:10.05 | mickeyl | networksettings-wlan plugin installed? |
| 01:10.18 | mickeyl | hostap-drivers installed? |
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| 01:20.07 | chuckr | what's a hosstap driver? |
| 01:20.28 | chuckr | I'm totally willing to read on this, if you want me to do that |
| 01:20.54 | chuckr | but I honestly don't know what a hostap driver is, i am cold on linux so far |
| 01:21.55 | lpotter | hostap modules are for wifi |
| 01:21.58 | chuckr | neither the usbd0 line, nor the wlan0 line in network settings, is letting me set any 802.11 stuff |
| 01:22.25 | chuckr | insmod hostap? Or should i download stuff for this from killefiz? |
| 01:23.08 | lpotter | should be part of oz already |
| 01:23.24 | chuckr | if you get me working once, you know, you'll never have to do it again for me, and I will help others till I can't stand it anymore, in reasonable payment |
| 01:24.15 | chuckr | well lsmod shows nothing like hostap |
| 01:24.47 | chuckr | I could type the entire list, it's only 6 long, shall I? |
| 01:26.34 | chuckr | sharp_mmcsd_m, pxa_bi, usbdserial, net_fd, usbdmonitor, usbdcore |
| 01:26.51 | chuckr | please, suggest another one to load |
| 01:27.32 | chuckr | wher ein the filsystem do these guys sit? Oh, heck, let me 'find' it |
| 01:28.54 | lpotter | hostap and hostap_cs should load when you put in the wifi card, if those are the modules it uses |
| 01:33.04 | chuckr | well, ifconfig is telling me that my only devices are lo0 and usbd0. I'm gonna reboot without the usb in smelling distance, maybe it shouldered the 802 card out of the picture |
| 01:34.06 | chuckr | (rebooting) |
| 01:34.39 | chuckr | least, the reboot is nicely clean, no warnings, 175 packages |
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| 01:38.47 | chuckr | I did a 'find / -name hostap\*" and found several modules that are interesting, but more than that, i found 2 files that may be hand-edited (?) config files. I think this is possible, but the secret is hidden so far. |
| 01:38.59 | ljp_z | what cf card? |
| 01:40.00 | chuckr | anyhow, the modules are hostap. hostap_crypt_wep, hostap_crypt, and hostap_cs. Should I load them all, and in what order (Use insmod to do this?) |
| 01:40.17 | chuckr | or maybe, depmod? I'm shooting blind here |
| 01:40.27 | treke|home | mickey|zzZZzz: Does it? Cool |
| 01:40.29 | chuckr | I have a dlink 660 |
| 01:41.22 | lpotter | ahh |
| 01:41.34 | treke|home | hostap should work out of the box |
| 01:41.37 | chuckr | there's /usr/lib/ipkg/info/hostap-modules.control and modules.list |
| 01:41.46 | treke|home | chuckr: try this |
| 01:41.51 | chuckr | well it doesn't |
| 01:42.18 | chuckr | unless I'm nissing something you are considering SO obvious |
| 01:42.45 | chuckr | I'm not mad about that, I have personally done that to folks before myself, I realize it's easy to miss the obvious |
| 01:43.02 | treke|home | chuckr: http://home.treke.net/~ggilbert/gcc2-3.3.5-husky/ |
| 01:43.12 | chuckr | hold one |
| 01:43.16 | treke|home | This is wierd, and we need to straighten it out this weekend |
| 01:43.43 | chuckr | ok I'll reflash, right? |
| 01:44.05 | lpotter | I have problems with my dcf-660w |
| 01:44.30 | chuckr | I know I'm representing here a major pita, I will find some way to pay this help back somehow |
| 01:44.53 | lpotter | naa |
| 01:45.07 | lpotter | no more than treke usually is |
| 01:45.11 | treke|home | haha |
| 01:45.17 | treke|home | ~fishslap lpotter |
| 01:45.24 | | ACTION slaps lpotter up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 01:46.03 | lpotter | my 660 worked fine for about a month and half, then it started messing up, not it will only send packets when I bend it a bit |
| 01:46.11 | lpotter | s/not/now |
| 01:46.56 | treke|home | my wcf12 did the same thing :p |
| 01:47.00 | chuckr | I'm dl'ing, that's a smallish initrd.bin, only 12.3M versus 19.6 for the one I have in now |
| 01:47.10 | treke|home | Thats fine |
| 01:47.22 | chuckr | just giving out all the info I can |
| 01:47.23 | treke|home | that's just on of my personal builds :) |
| 01:47.27 | chuckr | fine |
| 01:47.42 | chuckr | experimentation is a fine thing |
| 01:47.51 | lpotter | but this ma701 from work has worked fine |
| 01:48.04 | chuckr | I just got my big python proj done, and all is right with the world |
| 01:48.10 | chuckr | except my Z! |
| 01:48.37 | treke|home | hehe |
| 01:48.45 | treke|home | pyqt + c760 == mmmmmmh |
| 01:48.50 | chuckr | that site has limited bw, or it's busy, which is why I'm not done yet |
| 01:49.04 | treke|home | That's my home DSl :p |
| 01:49.35 | chuckr | I woud really like, once I have my Z humming, to haver a nice talk with you guys regarding build matters an d how you guys feel about gnu autoconf |
| 01:49.57 | chuckr | I don't like it much, but I want to see how others view it |
| 01:50.05 | treke|home | kergoth is the man for you |
| 01:50.11 | treke|home | just dont get him going on libtool |
| 01:50.35 | chuckr | actually, I can be made to froth on that subject quite nicely, thank you! |
| 01:51.16 | chuckr | that's the reason I want to talk, build systems have been my main thing for a while now, and I'm thinking about possible solutions |
| 01:51.34 | chuckr | I know a lot about a lot of tools (makes especially) |
| 01:51.58 | chuckr | initrd only 45% dl'ed |
| 01:52.10 | chuckr | I have lots of bw, that's not me |
| 01:53.05 | treke|home | Earthlink DSL == soda straw |
| 01:56.12 | chuckr | the day I got my g5, speakeasy moved me from 640 to 1.5 (without telling me, why?) but it sure felt like freeing the slaves, everthing started going at lightspeed. Compiles just hum. |
| 01:56.27 | treke|home | hehe |
| 01:56.45 | mewyn | chuckr: have you checked your speakeasy mailbox? |
| 01:56.59 | mewyn | they are upgrading all of their existing customers |
| 01:57.07 | chuckr | I sure didn't complain, let me tell you, something about "when you're eye deep i nwarm shit" |
| 01:57.23 | chuckr | my speakeasy mail forwards to my imapd server, why? |
| 01:57.47 | mewyn | they don't seem to forward everything. |
| 01:57.52 | chuckr | I run courier-imap. it works just dandy with mozilla |
| 01:57.53 | mewyn | i only get billing |
| 01:58.13 | chuckr | I do to, it forwards with the .forward I have there. |
| 01:58.45 | chuckr | They run Linux on their own internal systems, which is why I went with them in the first place, fellas |
| 01:59.16 | chuckr | 92% downloaded |
| 02:01.45 | chuckr | flashing |
| 02:02.05 | chuckr | I'm am getting really slick at flashing |
| 02:03.30 | treke|home | hehe |
| 02:03.35 | treke|home | the c760 is a pain tot flash |
| 02:04.04 | lpotter | is it different from c700 flash? |
| 02:04.15 | chuckr | I don't see why that's true. 136 packages in this initrd.bin |
| 02:05.13 | chuckr | seeing as it's the only one with the d/m screen which allows that full backup and restore, it's arguably better than the others, no? |
| 02:05.43 | chuckr | that d/m screen is really, really cool. |
| 02:08.35 | chuckr | first check with lsmod, the hostap things are loaded |
| 02:09.18 | treke|home | chuckr: having to pull off the back cover, unplug, remove battery, reinsert battery, hit buttons, plug in things |
| 02:09.25 | treke|home | I'm just spoiled by my ipaq :) |
| 02:09.45 | lpotter | c700 is easy to flash |
| 02:09.47 | treke|home | hit reset and hold down the pad. |
| 02:09.56 | treke|home | then hit record and follow the on screen instructions |
| 02:12.23 | chuckr | ok things are different, but not yet working (I'm getting hopeful) |
| 02:12.38 | chuckr | first, no usbd0 device, but there is now a wlan0 device |
| 02:13.25 | chuckr | the network setting is only allowinbg me to set ip stuff, not letting me do any 802,11 configuration, is there some file I should edit for this? |
| 02:13.54 | treke|home | Nope. Dont think it does that in my image |
| 02:14.11 | chuckr | should I do something with iwconfig? |
| 02:14.18 | treke|home | Depends on your network |
| 02:14.40 | treke|home | Do you use wep? Did you disable essid broadcasting? |
| 02:14.42 | chuckr | I need to set the network name, channel, encryption, and password |
| 02:15.14 | chuckr | shold I do that? I would hate to, it would be totally open in a hostile environment |
| 02:15.53 | treke|home | If you need to set that up to access your AP, then you can do it with iwconfig |
| 02:15.56 | chuckr | I would do it only if you tell me it's the only way to go |
| 02:16.29 | chuckr | ok then I should completely get rid of all passowrds? |
| 02:17.03 | treke|home | I have no opinion on the matter |
| 02:17.08 | chuckr | why will iwconfig work later but not now? |
| 02:17.19 | treke|home | iwconfig will work now |
| 02:17.45 | treke|home | I dont use any fancy security on my AP since I dont really care if anyone accesses it. If You care, you probably should use it |
| 02:17.49 | chuckr | maybe, there's something on that list about it, let me do some more research |
| 02:18.40 | treke|home | but Isince I don't use it, I don't know the exact iwconfig syntax |
| 02:19.01 | chuckr | it's not the Z I'm worried about, if I let my network open, it's my other machines and my entire net bw that would be open, and others here would not be kind to me on it. Not that type of place (I already regret moving in here) |
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| 02:19.41 | treke|home | as for usb, i probably didnt even include the wireless modules |
| 02:19.53 | chuckr | I will google some more, and check other sites, I'll be back to you. |
| 02:20.23 | treke|home | One of my neighbors does has a wireless card, I think. I sometimes see him on the ap :p |
| 02:23.16 | lpotter | thats just me |
| 02:23.31 | lpotter | trying to use up your bandwidth |
| 02:27.03 | lpotter | which device? |
| 02:27.08 | treke|home | husky |
| 02:27.18 | lpotter | gcc3 |
| 02:27.42 | lpotter | unless |
| 02:38.35 | treke|home | hmmm. libdb2's make file is a bit out of date |
| 02:46.39 | treke|home | chuckr: any luck? |
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| 03:45.23 | treke|home | mithro: GCC is a pain in the ass :p |
| 03:45.26 | treke|home | er gcc3 |
| 03:48.39 | lpotter | how so? |
| 03:49.03 | mithro | treke|home: why? :) |
| 04:02.37 | lpotter | hmm |
| 04:04.53 | lpotter | thank goodness for clouds |
| 04:05.01 | treke|home | mithro: Fighting with something that doesnt want to build |
| 04:06.47 | treke|home | i try to go for things that are possible |
| 04:07.51 | mithro | sarien? |
| 04:08.15 | treke|home | Sierra AGI based game interpreter |
| 04:11.09 | lpotter | you gamer |
| 04:11.15 | mithro | well i think i have fixed the no-raise problem |
| 04:11.19 | mithro | but i'm yet to test |
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| 04:12.45 | lpotter | no raise problem? |
| 04:14.43 | mithro | compat programs where not raising |
| 04:15.20 | lpotter | oh |
| 04:15.24 | lpotter | odd |
| 04:16.51 | lpotter | ohhh. it looks like rain is heading this way |
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| 04:28.48 | W8TVI | Tango down! |
| 04:31.10 | mithro | whats tango? |
| 04:33.08 | W8TVI | Tango = terrorist |
| 04:33.14 | mithro | ahh :) |
| 04:33.20 | mithro | thats where i had heard it from :) |
| 04:35.39 | mithro | treke|home: fixed the raising problem |
| 04:36.33 | W8TVI | Murphy! |
| 04:37.23 | mithro | treke: also have an oz-compat-opie uploaded now |
| 04:47.13 | chouimat|Zzzzzz | nigth |
| 04:48.38 | chuckr | treke, it seems I have the same state now for wlan0 as I had for usbd0: it looks like the config is just fine, but no pings in either direction. What's the next thing that I can do to help on this? Should I give this to someone edr> |
| 04:52.30 | treke|home | Wireless isnt working either? |
| 04:52.38 | treke|home | Something is really fucked up with your device :) |
| 04:52.40 | treke|home | mithro: cool. |
| 04:53.14 | treke|home | oz-compat-opie oz-compat-sharp and oz-compat-games |
| 04:54.00 | mithro | oz-compat is the base |
| 04:54.07 | mithro | oz-compat-opie == opie libs |
| 04:54.14 | mithro | oz-compat-sharp == libsl etc |
| 04:54.25 | mithro | (well thats what i'm planing :) |
| 04:54.31 | mithro | why do you need an oz-compat-games? |
| 04:55.06 | treke|home | For games? :p |
| 04:55.09 | mithro | treke|home: could you get the new libs a try and see if they fix the raise problem for you |
| 04:55.19 | mithro | treke|home: but was part of the games? :) |
| 04:55.21 | treke|home | Yeah, I'm download it |
| 04:55.45 | treke|home | mithro: SDL and libmad are the biggies I thin |
| 04:58.49 | mithro | SDL == C library |
| 04:58.54 | mithro | libmad == C library ? |
| 05:01.19 | treke|home | SDL is, but C++ symbols seem to sneak in to everything I've tried |
| 05:01.34 | treke|home | libmad I havent verified a problem with, and was just guessing |
| 05:06.27 | lpotter | libmad is c |
| 05:13.45 | mithro | o i know why :) |
| 05:13.54 | mithro | it's because libSDL has to link with libqte |
| 05:14.13 | mithro | and libSDL then exports the "SDLApplication" which has qte symbols in them |
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| 05:38.05 | mithro | treke|home: any luck with the new packages? |
| 05:43.23 | chuckr | anyone home? |
| 05:43.48 | chuckr | I'm still messing around with packages, I need a question answered, hello?? |
| 05:48.07 | treke|home | mithro: Havent tried them |
| 05:48.30 | treke|home | yeah I know libdl links with libqte, but I always figured it would be transparent to the packages that linked to it |
| 05:49.36 | treke|home | I wanted xmms so i could listen to some tunes while cleaning :p |
| 05:50.37 | treke|home | what is the URL to the new compat packages, http://www.mithis.com/zaurus/oz-compat_0.5_arm.ipk isnt it :p |
| 05:50.42 | lpotter | thats inconceivable! |
| 05:50.54 | treke|home | you keep using that word |
| 05:51.01 | treke|home | I do not think it means what you think it means |
| 05:51.20 | lpotter | hmm, vnc messes up my display ;) |
| 05:51.26 | lpotter | err :0 |
| 05:51.30 | treke|home | it's because it hates you |
| 05:51.48 | lpotter | probably |
| 05:52.09 | lpotter | did I mention I hate X? |
| 05:52.23 | treke|home | and X hates you |
| 05:52.38 | lpotter | good. the feeling is mutual |
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| 06:03.30 | lpotter | hmm |
| 06:06.27 | treke|home | oh well. Guess I'll test it tomorrow |
| 06:08.56 | mithro | treke|home: no luck? |
| 06:22.48 | treke|home | I need the url before I can try it |
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| 06:26.26 | mithro | o sorry :) |
| 06:26.33 | mithro | http://www.mithis.com/zaurus/ipkgs/ |
| 06:28.09 | mithro | i said it on #openzaurus :) |
| 06:28.27 | treke|home | Ah |
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| 06:34.06 | treke|home | your ipks suck |
| 06:34.35 | treke|home | chkhing, should be in QtPalmtop.compat |
| 06:34.58 | treke|home | and both ipks have overlapping files |
| 06:35.07 | lpotter | hmm |
| 06:35.17 | mithro | o? |
| 06:35.35 | mithro | chkhing is in QtPalmtop.compat |
| 06:35.46 | treke|home | Package oz-compat-opie wants to install file /opt/QtPalmtop/bin/chkhinge |
| 06:35.46 | treke|home | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:35.51 | mithro | a symlink goes from QtPalmtop tp QtPalmtop.compat |
| 06:35.59 | mithro | treke|home: opps! :) |
| 06:36.06 | mithro | that shouldn't be in the opie one |
| 06:38.39 | mithro | try the new oz-compat now |
| 06:38.49 | mithro | s/oz-compat/oz-compat-opie |
| 06:42.19 | lpotter | fuk ya... rain! |
| 06:42.25 | lpotter | wooooooo!!! |
| 06:46.45 | treke|home | bah. Stupid thing still ignores themes |
| 06:47.35 | mithro | yeah - i can't figure that one out |
| 06:47.47 | mithro | but it raises correctly for you? |
| 06:48.01 | treke|home | yes |
| 06:48.19 | lpotter | anyone going to linux conf .au? |
| 06:49.01 | mithro | okay cool |
| 06:49.24 | mithro | lpotter: i would if somebody would pay my expensives for me or if it was in adelaide |
| 06:50.49 | lpotter | I'm going to ask at work about that |
| 06:50.56 | lpotter | maybe we can still get in |
| 06:53.14 | mithro | treke|home: bah! :) |
| 06:53.26 | treke|home | not worth the trouble. |
| 06:54.15 | mithro | still need compatibility libs for the crappy sl stuff and quickexec |
| 06:54.25 | treke|home | no I dont :) |
| 06:54.47 | treke|home | none of the stuff I use relates to the crappy sl stuff |
| 06:54.53 | treke|home | or quickexec |
| 06:56.02 | mithro | hancom apps do |
| 06:56.26 | treke|home | what other people need doesnt concern me much :p |
| 06:57.37 | mithro | treke|home: i have a friend who is intrested in a 2.95.2 images for the C760 |
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| 14:23.30 | mickeyl | anyone know about a real virtual framebuffer software (e.g. /dev/fb1) - appearing as a window in X11 ? |
| 14:24.47 | pb_ | I've never heard of such a thing. It would be a neat hack, though. |
| 14:25.57 | mickeyl | yeah, i'd like to have a reasonable test environment for rendering libraries |
| 14:26.25 | pb_ | I don't think it'd be difficult to write, so long as you didn't care too much about performance. |
| 14:27.33 | pb_ | If you wanted it to act as a window into real VRAM, that would be a bit more tricky to get right. And you'd always be at the mercy of broken applications writing in the wrong place, but it might still be worthwhile. |
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| 14:28.40 | pb_ | phew |
| 14:30.26 | mickeyl | well for what I have in mind, performance wouldn't be an issue. just having a means to see how the fb looks like with a few frames per second would be sufficient |
| 14:31.32 | pb_ | Okay. Well, in that case, you just need a stub driver that implements a few ioctls and provides a block of memory that can be mmap()d, and a helper application that displays an X window and blits the copy of the mmap()d buffer into it at your desired refresh interval. |
| 14:32.13 | mickeyl | yep. |
| 14:32.46 | mickeyl | something for the winter holiday ;) |
| 14:33.14 | pb_ | :-) |
| 15:03.22 | tomimo | mickeyl: you happen to know why the wellenreiter feed-dir is unavailable from the main site ? |
| 15:10.54 | mickeyl | what do you mean with main site? |
| 15:11.00 | mickeyl | vanille.de ? |
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| 15:12.02 | tomimo | sorry :) www.wellenreiter.net |
| 15:12.13 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 15:12.24 | mickeyl | wellenreiter.net doesn't contain the feed |
| 15:12.28 | mickeyl | vanille.de contains it |
| 15:12.31 | mickeyl | but: |
| 15:12.34 | mickeyl | vanille.de is under upgrade today and will be online again in a few hours. |
| 15:12.59 | tomimo | ok, thats just fine. |
| 15:13.14 | mickeyl | as for the reason... well... I don't feel like maintaining wellenreiter.net. i don't have time for that. |
| 15:13.53 | mickeyl | wellenreiter.net is maintained by the rest of the wellenreiter team... folks which are not involved in wellenreiter II |
| 15:14.32 | tomimo | ahaa, ok. |
| 15:14.53 | mickeyl | what started out as a collaboration ended up in me doing anything... which is why i no longer am interested in doing anything for the main site but rather maintain wellenreiter on my private project site. |
| 15:15.01 | mickeyl | s/anything/everything |
| 15:15.04 | mickeyl | grr |
| 15:15.04 | mickeyl | ;) |
| 15:15.30 | tomimo | I just upgaraded to 3.3.6pre0 (gcc3 version distro) and thought about gathering up some usable software for my next weeks holiday trip :) |
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| 15:15.49 | tomimo | I guess I have to compile wellenreiter from source anyway for gcc3 |
| 15:16.07 | mickeyl | tomimo: no you don't have to. vanille.de contains a feed for gcc3 |
| 15:16.14 | tomimo | great! |
| 15:16.47 | tomimo | btw. have you seen the problem with libtool and --tag parameter with certain packages in buildroot-oz ? |
| 15:17.12 | tomimo | it seems that the redhat version of libtool has some problems with freetype for example |
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| 15:19.10 | mickeyl | yeah, we have all sorts of problems with readhat. enabling to build libtool for the host system is recommended |
| 15:19.28 | mickeyl | s/readhat/redha |
| 15:19.31 | mickeyl | t |
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| 15:39.20 | dan2003 | kde has a fairly nice config file inteface kconfig i beleive, does qt/opie have a similar mechanism? |
| 15:41.29 | mickeyl | yes - for now we're using http://doc.trolltech.com/qtopia1.7/html/config.html |
| 15:42.45 | dan2003 | ahaa.. thanks |
| 15:43.05 | chouimat | morning |
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| 15:56.56 | mickeyl | oe-experts? tools in $STAGING_DIR/build/bin are not preferred in $PATH - instead my local tools are used - any idea why and how can i workaround? |
| 15:57.53 | chouimat | hmmm /me thinks we should organise a found raising to pay kergoth internet at home |
| 16:00.36 | mickeyl | he has - it's just temporary down, isn'it? |
| 16:01.07 | chouimat | mickeyl: he didn't pay i think |
| 16:01.14 | mickeyl | d'oh |
| 16:01.15 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 16:01.41 | chouimat | speaking of that I should go pay the 200cad for the phone bill |
| 16:02.28 | mickeyl | is that much? |
| 16:02.37 | mickeyl | ibot: what is 200 CAD in EUR |
| 16:02.40 | | mickeyl: what are you talking about? |
| 16:02.50 | mickeyl | ibot: convert 200 CAD to EUR |
| 16:02.52 | chouimat | ibot change 200 cad to eur |
| 16:03.06 | mickeyl | i can't remember the syntax of that |
| 16:03.06 | mickeyl | ;) |
| 16:03.15 | mickeyl | mmh... quite a bit |
| 16:03.21 | chouimat | 2 months |
| 16:03.27 | mickeyl | ah |
| 16:03.30 | mickeyl | ok the |
| 16:03.31 | mickeyl | n |
| 16:03.45 | chouimat | mickeyl: I will pay the half of it ... |
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| 17:08.09 | Disconnect | ibot: change 200 cad to usd |
| 17:08.34 | Disconnect | wow the exchange rate is getting better - should make another trip to toronto one of these years |
| 17:09.47 | pb_ | crumbs, you found a currency that's actually falling against the US dollar? |
| 17:13.49 | TheMasterMind1 | pb_: heh |
| 17:13.50 | Disconnect | over the course of a few years anyway. last time I went to canada ISTR it was more like 2CAD->1.75USD |
| 17:14.11 | TheMasterMind1 | ISTR? |
| 17:14.18 | pb_ | he seems to remember |
| 17:14.39 | pb_ | ibot, change 200 cad to gbp |
| 17:15.06 | pb_ | mm, seems to be staying about the same there. |
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| 17:16.45 | TheMasterMind1 | wow |
| 17:16.56 | TheMasterMind1 | oh, CAD |
| 17:17.02 | pb_ | heh |
| 17:17.07 | pb_ | ibot, change 200 usd to gbp |
| 17:17.21 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm, not all that much better |
| 17:17.40 | chouimat | TheMasterMind1: yup |
| 17:18.04 | treke|home | mornin gp |
| 17:18.04 | Disconnect | gb2: change 20 eur to usd |
| 17:18.08 | treke|home | er pb |
| 17:18.09 | Disconnect | er .. duh |
| 17:18.12 | Disconnect | ibot: change 20 eur to usd |
| 17:18.28 | Disconnect | thats not gotten much worse recently |
| 17:18.43 | pb_ | treke|home: mm? |
| 17:18.54 | pb_ | oh, morning |
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| 17:19.00 | pb_ | I only saw the "er pb" bit at first. |
| 17:19.21 | chouimat | hi treke|home |
| 17:19.56 | pb_ | Disconnect: well, it wasn't all that long ago that the USD:EUR rate was the other way round. |
| 17:20.13 | chouimat | change 1 cad to usd |
| 17:20.20 | chouimat | change 1 cad to eur |
| 17:20.38 | chouimat | ~change 1 cad to usd |
| 17:20.41 | chouimat | ~change 1 cad to eur |
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| 17:22.56 | chouimat | ~change 1 gbp to cad |
| 17:23.26 | chouimat | ok england is to expensive for me |
| 17:23.33 | rl | hi chouimat |
| 17:23.40 | pb_ | chouimat: heh |
| 17:23.51 | chouimat | pb_: :) |
| 17:25.14 | rl | i'm trying to build glibc and get this: oebuild configure glibc/glibc_2.3.2.oe |
| 17:25.14 | rl | NOTE: package glibc-2.3.2-r0: task do_fetch started |
| 17:25.14 | rl | NOTE: package glibc-2.3.2-r0: task do_fetch succeeded |
| 17:25.14 | rl | NOTE: package glibc-2.3.2-r0: task do_configure started |
| 17:25.14 | rl | ERROR: function do_configure failed |
| 17:25.15 | rl | ERROR: see log in /home/knoppix/oe/packages/tmp/base/glibc-2.3.2-r0/temp/log.do_configure.17489 |
| 17:25.17 | rl | ERROR: package glibc-2.3.2-r0: task do_configure failed |
| 17:25.19 | rl | ERROR: TaskFailed event exception, aborting |
| 17:25.26 | treke|home | rl: .... |
| 17:25.52 | rl | log.do_configure.17489: checking for arm-linux-gcc... ccache arm-linux-gcc |
| 17:25.52 | rl | checking for suffix of object files... configure: error: cannot compute suffix of object files: cannot compile |
| 17:25.52 | rl | FATAL: oe_runconf failed |
| 17:26.19 | treke|home | cross compiler not in $PATH? |
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| 17:33.47 | rl | it is |
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| 17:59.53 | CIA | repository=03buildroot user=11mickey@allanon.vanille.de |
| 17:59.54 | CIA | 07ChangeSet@1.1388 bye bye python-cvs, hello python-textutils |
| 18:03.21 | CIA | repository=03buildroot user=11mickey@allanon.vanille.de |
| 18:03.22 | CIA | 07ChangeSet@1.1389 update opie def-configs |
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| 19:10.38 | chuckr | I just finished looking at the new cacko x11 roms. They are VERY slick, the interface is too cool to be believed. |
| 19:11.29 | chuckr | they have some real drawbacks, no little keyboard that I could find, and no terminal given. Seeeing as it's x11, I don't think it could use the ipk ones |
| 19:12.07 | chuckr | anyhow, what's the difference in images on openzaurus, between official/testing and official/unstable? |
| 19:12.17 | chuckr | for the 760, that is |
| 19:15.10 | chuckr | in official/testing/3.3.5/760, there is a zImage.bin. but there are also ones in image/ and kernel/ (subdirs) why is that? |
| 19:15.21 | chuckr | are they the same, or different? |
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| 19:44.53 | Bernardo | hi |
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| 20:05.32 | treke|home | There is no differeence between testing and unstable |
| 20:10.13 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: ping |
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| 20:56.04 | Bernardo | bye, see you guys |
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| 21:16.13 | ar_oszine | hi |
| 21:17.03 | ar_oszine | have trouble to build glibc |
| 21:17.18 | ar_oszine | checking for suffix of object files... configure: error: cannot compute suffix of object files: cannot compile |
| 21:17.27 | ar_oszine | what can i do? any ideas? |
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| 21:34.32 | noda | Moo! |
| 21:34.48 | noda | What's new in OE-land? :) |
| 21:38.17 | lpotter | nothing |
| 21:39.04 | noda | Bah. |
| 21:39.13 | noda | Okay, Question #2: Should I upgrade to OZ 3.3.5? :) |
| 21:39.34 | noda | My latest build was Oct 24. |
| 21:39.45 | lpotter | hmm |
| 21:40.03 | lpotter | 3.3.5 I think is a bit unstable |
| 21:40.27 | noda | I won't then. Mine is like a rock -- it's treated me perfectly for the past month and a half. |
| 21:40.43 | mickey|tv | only on gcc2 |
| 21:40.47 | mickey|tv | the gcc3 image is rock solid |
| 21:40.51 | mickey|tv | bbl, commercial break over |
| 21:41.20 | noda | Oh :) |
| 21:41.41 | noda | I'll try it then! I'll just keep my backup image in case it doesn't work nicely. |
| 21:41.58 | lpotter | mickeyl: you got the usb working, then? |
| 21:43.59 | chouimat | noda I'm using 3.3.5-gcc3 for 2 weeks and it's great |
| 21:44.12 | noda | Awesome. |
| 21:44.18 | lpotter | and usb is working? |
| 21:44.32 | noda | Wireless networking? The release notes say CF cards don't work every time... |
| 21:44.47 | chouimat | lpotter: ya ... |
| 21:44.55 | chouimat | don't know for the wireless |
| 21:46.02 | noda | chouimat: Do you use CF at all? :) |
| 21:46.04 | noda | Or SD? |
| 21:47.20 | noda | Can anybody confirm that 2.4.18 works with an SD card? |
| 21:47.42 | noda | oh, btw, anybody using Epiphany: http://www.adamhooper.com:4242/ephy <-- my new popup blocker extension! :) |
| 21:49.33 | lpotter | does that work on the zaurus? :) |
| 21:50.05 | noda | Not yet :) |
| 21:50.15 | noda | Maybe the GPE people will get it working :) |
| 21:50.31 | noda | ...in which case, I don't see why it wouldn't work :) |
| 21:50.47 | noda | There's a mouse gestures extension there, too. In binary form -- easy installation! :) |
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| 21:53.13 | chouimat | noda: I have a CF card and a SD one |
| 21:53.44 | chouimat | noda: can you port it to konqueror? |
| 21:53.58 | noda | chouimat: lol, does konqueror even have an extensions system? :) |
| 21:54.06 | chouimat | noda: yes |
| 21:54.16 | noda | Bah. No, I can't :) |
| 21:54.18 | noda | I don't use Konqueror :) |
| 21:54.45 | chouimat | noda: bah |
| 21:55.01 | noda | I'm gonna be building a cool web dev extension for Epiphany, I think. It'll have cool stuff -- realtime stylesheet editing, JS console, HTML validation... |
| 21:55.03 | chouimat | noda: I block that at the firewall level :) |
| 21:55.47 | noda | chouimat: Nah, the popup blocker extension doesn't block popups -- Epiphany's let you block popups forever. It lets you explicitly allow/deny certain sites to give you popup windows, overriding your default setting :) |
| 21:56.36 | chouimat | noda: I have a rule to deny packet from doubleclick :) |
| 21:56.44 | noda | Hehehe |
| 21:56.51 | noda | chouimat: But then you still get a popup window, no? |
| 21:57.02 | noda | Unless you make Konqueror deny them :) |
| 21:57.47 | chouimat | noda: actually I made konqueror start new tabs ... |
| 22:04.20 | mickeyl | so sash is leaving sharp based ROMs and concentrates on x11? nice |
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| 22:05.21 | mallum | treke: yo, what was that light mozilla frontend you pointed me at a while back ? |
| 22:06.03 | noda | Firebird? Galeon? Epiphany? Camino? |
| 22:06.07 | noda | Skipstone? |
| 22:06.46 | mallum | noda: nope, none of them :/ |
| 22:06.59 | mickeyl | minimo ? |
| 22:07.26 | noda | That's a light frontend :) |
| 22:07.37 | mallum | mickeyl: minimo is just a widget, not a frontend ( But thats why I want to find the frontend so I can build it with minimo ) |
| 22:09.09 | mickeyl | oh, ok. sorry no idea then. i just read somewhere about that |
| 22:09.16 | noda | I think minimo is the frontend. http://www.mozilla.org/projects/minimo/screenshots.html |
| 22:09.19 | lpotter | minimo was still like 7 mb |
| 22:09.28 | noda | Hell, I'd use it. |
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| 22:09.45 | lpotter | I think opera 6 kicks ass |
| 22:09.51 | mallum | noda: thats just the test gtk front end for testing the gtk bindings |
| 22:09.56 | noda | Oh |
| 22:10.09 | lpotter | I have been trying to see if they will release a downloadable version of opera |
| 22:10.09 | dan2003 | can i use QThread within opie? |
| 22:10.16 | lpotter | use pthread |
| 22:10.26 | dan2003 | k, i susepcted that would be the answer :) |
| 22:10.36 | mickeyl | hmm i can't get all the fuzz about usb-storage. it's only for CF and SD... if it was for the flash rom partitions, it'd be cool... but otherwise... boring. |
| 22:11.26 | noda | usb-storage? You mean a linux box can talk directly to the CF card through my Zaurus? |
| 22:11.44 | mickeyl | a box. not necessary linux. works also on a windows box |
| 22:11.55 | noda | That'd be GREAT if it could access flash... |
| 22:12.04 | mickeyl | but i can't see what's so great about it - it's only cf and sd |
| 22:12.28 | noda | Still, I use my Zaurus as a proxy to SD anyway. It'd be one step simpler than with scp... |
| 22:12.51 | mickeyl | well i have an external card reader in every PC here, so I'm probably biased ;) |
| 22:13.14 | noda | lol |
| 22:13.28 | lpotter | still, you could use your z as a cf/sd reader |
| 22:13.46 | dan2003 | rather expensive sd reader! |
| 22:13.53 | lpotter | :) |
| 22:14.10 | lpotter | yes, but what sd reader can play solitare! |
| 22:14.23 | mickeyl | oh well i can probably boot my PC from the CF in my Z. that's kind of cool |
| 22:14.29 | dan2003 | or mine hunt :) |
| 22:14.53 | dan2003 | now that would be funky |
| 22:15.10 | noda | Ah well, here we go! Time to upgrade to 3.3.5 :) |
| 22:15.20 | noda | Losing all that uptime... ;) |
| 22:15.23 | mickeyl | noda: 3.3.6-pre0. don't use 3.3.5 |
| 22:15.29 | noda | mickeyl: Ooh, wheredat? |
| 22:15.31 | mickeyl | 3.3.6-pre0 is the gcc3 image |
| 22:15.40 | mickeyl | official/experimental/collie |
| 22:15.45 | noda | Thanks :) |
| 22:15.48 | mickeyl | np |
| 22:15.52 | noda | And the kernel... same as with 3.3.5? |
| 22:15.56 | dan2003 | is there a c760 version? |
| 22:16.19 | noda | Oh, there are zImages along with it :) |
| 22:16.24 | mickeyl | noda: slightly improved. the battery patch is in again and the bluez patch is in (at least on my kernel here - dunno if that's already uploaded ;) |
| 22:16.46 | mickeyl | dan2003: no |
| 22:16.52 | noda | What's the battery patch do? |
| 22:16.58 | mickeyl | more accurate report |
| 22:17.02 | noda | Oh, nice :) |
| 22:17.03 | mickeyl | like in 2.4.6/oz |
| 22:17.20 | mickeyl | 2.4.18-embedix still contains that 4 level braindead report |
| 22:17.22 | noda | I don't even trust that one, though it's better than on my laptop. I've had my laptop tell me I've got 20 minutes and then die :) |
| 22:17.25 | noda | EW! |
| 22:17.40 | mickeyl | hehe, yeah |
| 22:19.13 | lpotter | the one thing about a 4 level report, is that it doesnt have to poll so much ;) |
| 22:19.13 | noda | Well, thanks for the tip. Here goes the flash :) |
| 22:19.19 | mickeyl | good luck ;) |
| 22:20.22 | noda | lol, that's like saying "the good thing about a crappy web browser is that you end up not using it as much" |
| 22:20.51 | dan2003 | even a pole every minute could deduce a better resolution that 25% |
| 22:21.22 | mickeyl | lpotter: you bet they're reading it every few seconds _despite_ giving only 4 steps to userland! |
| 22:21.23 | dan2003 | how often does it pole in the 25% jump incarnation? |
| 22:21.57 | dan2003 | hehe! |
| 22:22.19 | mickeyl | we'll tweak a sane number if 2.4.21-cl |
| 22:22.24 | mickeyl | s/if/in |
| 22:22.30 | mickeyl | well... probably also 'if' :D |
| 22:22.54 | noda | Done flashing :) |
| 22:23.09 | noda | Ooh, cool new boot-ness :) |
| 22:23.19 | mickeyl | 10 times faster... |
| 22:23.24 | mickeyl | look for reconfiguring |
| 22:23.31 | noda | Holy moly. |
| 22:23.40 | noda | I gotta say though, I was a fan of the huge splash screen on startup... |
| 22:23.49 | mickeyl | we'll get that again |
| 22:23.51 | mickeyl | but in userland |
| 22:23.54 | noda | Ooh :) |
| 22:23.56 | mickeyl | for later releases |
| 22:24.05 | mickeyl | did you see a recent SuSE or mandrake lately? |
| 22:24.07 | noda | With the animated text and everything? :) |
| 22:24.09 | mickeyl | well do it similar |
| 22:24.21 | mickeyl | no, more like a full screen init progress |
| 22:24.25 | noda | Nah, I've got a debian and a pseudo-from-scratch system. |
| 22:24.36 | mickeyl | ah. pure for the purest :) |
| 22:24.36 | noda | I like fullscreen init. |
| 22:24.39 | noda | :) |
| 22:25.03 | dan2003 | animated text? u dont mean bootsplash or do u? |
| 22:25.23 | mickeyl | no animated text (that was in older kernels) |
| 22:25.28 | noda | I liked it :P |
| 22:25.31 | dan2003 | sounds cool! |
| 22:25.33 | noda | Even though the light only came on after it was done :P |
| 22:25.40 | mickeyl | and i don't mean bootsplash, that's a brain dead implementation - but the effect will be similar |
| 22:25.43 | noda | Packages: Completed. |
| 22:25.52 | noda | Yep. |
| 22:26.24 | noda | Sweet... no doc tab :) |
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| 22:27.04 | mickeyl | yeah, best innovation in opie 1.0.3 |
| 22:27.05 | mickeyl | :D |
| 22:27.50 | noda | Hrm. Big, gray screen. Oh, here we go. |
| 22:28.00 | noda | Holy SHIT, you sure there are enough applets in the corner? :P |
| 22:28.13 | mickeyl | thank god we don't have opie head in this :) |
| 22:28.18 | mickeyl | opie head has lots more |
| 22:28.26 | mickeyl | we need to integrate subapplet eventually |
| 22:28.55 | noda | I can't even fit *2* apps on the taskbar :P |
| 22:29.05 | mickeyl | you can disable them :D |
| 22:29.08 | mickeyl | or even deinstall |
| 22:29.23 | noda | Yup |
| 22:30.20 | noda | ibot: seen AndyQ |
| 22:30.21 | | andyq <~AndyQ@pc-80-194-121-29-hy.blueyonder.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #openembedded, 203d 40m 35s ago, saying: 'hey chouimat'. |
| 22:30.25 | noda | Heh |
| 22:30.54 | dan2003 | quite while ago! |
| 22:33.10 | noda | Hey, awesome! The System Info 'Memory' section actually shows me some Free memory :P |
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| 22:37.01 | noda | Wireless simply does not work at all... :( |
| 22:39.24 | noda | cardmgr gave something totally funky in dmesg, too... "Internal error: Oops - undefined instruction: e000010\nCPU: 0\n... (registers)... Process cardmgr (pid: 409, stackpage=c2f3f000)... and then a stack dump |
| 22:39.48 | mickeyl | hmm... sure this is 3.3.6-pre0 and not 3.3.5 ? |
| 22:39.53 | mickeyl | because it looks like 3.3.5 |
| 22:40.18 | mickeyl | in 3.3.5 cardmgr often oopses |
| 22:40.51 | noda | uname -a: Linux openzaurus 2.4.18-rmk7-pxa3-embedix #3 Tue, 02 Dec 2003 00:05:13 +0100 armv4l unknown |
| 22:41.06 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 22:41.11 | mickeyl | that doesn't tell the oz version :D |
| 22:41.21 | mickeyl | don't we have a version tag in /etc ? |
| 22:41.23 | mickeyl | no idea |
| 22:41.36 | noda | Ack! There's the 'System Info' app. It says 3.3.5 |
| 22:41.41 | noda | wtf... |
| 22:41.42 | mickeyl | hah! |
| 22:42.41 | mickeyl | however... 2nd december looks about right |
| 22:42.55 | mickeyl | is this hostap or orinoco triggering the oops? |
| 22:43.01 | noda | Doesn't say. |
| 22:43.06 | mickeyl | well, what's your card |
| 22:43.13 | noda | Oh, hostap |
| 22:43.19 | noda | SMC 2642W |
| 22:43.28 | mickeyl | ah too bad. no longer have a prism card. i lost mine and looking for donations... ;) |
| 22:43.37 | noda | Heh, sorry, not from me :) |
| 22:43.49 | noda | I downloaded http://openzaurus.org/official/experimental/collie/3.3.6-pre0-2.4.18-gcc3/images/ |
| 22:43.53 | noda | initrd.bin |
| 22:43.55 | mickeyl | right |
| 22:44.07 | noda | And I'm almost positive that's the one on my Zaurus. I'm re-downloading and diffing now. |
| 22:45.14 | mickeyl | yeah, 2nd december is probably right. however you're the first one reporting that it oopses. try rebooting without the card and later sticking it in when opie has started |
| 22:45.36 | mickeyl | someone with kernel experience really should diagnose this problem |
| 22:45.51 | noda | That's what I did. Should I try booting with the card in? |
| 22:45.58 | mickeyl | yeah, worth a shot |
| 22:46.00 | noda | I've done a diff. Identical... |
| 22:46.43 | mickeyl | cardmgr is flaky. we have problems with that since post oz 3.2 |
| 22:46.51 | mickeyl | but it never occured to me on the gcc3 image |
| 22:47.00 | mickeyl | (with orinoco and spectrum_cs that is) |
| 22:47.30 | noda | Doesn't orinoco work with prism cards anyway? |
| 22:47.40 | noda | Wireless worked. |
| 22:47.52 | noda | Gotta go :) |
| 22:48.01 | pb_ | mickeyl: that oops looks like it probably isn't cardmgr's fault as such. |
| 22:48.18 | pb_ | I think it just loaded a buggy driver. |
| 22:49.28 | mickeyl | pb_: yeah right. probably the hostap loading and having a timing problem or such |
| 22:49.37 | mickeyl | because it doesn't happen every time |
| 22:49.52 | pb_ | yup, could be. do you know what version of hostap you have> |
| 22:49.58 | pb_ | s/>/?/ |
| 22:50.13 | pb_ | I use hostap all the time with my prism cards on the ipaq, and haven't had any trouble. |
| 22:50.16 | mickeyl | atm. we use 0.1.2 |
| 22:50.20 | mickeyl | 0.0.3 was stable |
| 22:50.23 | mickeyl | 0.0.4 was horrible |
| 22:50.28 | mickeyl | didn't try versions in between |
| 22:51.09 | mickeyl | maybe also a problem with our external pcmcia-cs and the embedix kernel |
| 22:51.13 | mickeyl | well |
| 22:51.14 | pb_ | heh, looks like 0.0.4 is what we have. |
| 22:51.21 | mickeyl | a lot of problems will just disappear when we have our oz kernel |
| 22:51.32 | pb_ | ah, right, yeah. could be. |
| 22:52.24 | mickeyl | we have such a shitload of bad code in 2.4.18-embedix... which is why i set all my hopes on 2.6.0 and cooperating with hh.org to get a unified kernel tree for ipaq, simpad and zaurus |
| 22:52.39 | pb_ | right |
| 22:53.23 | pb_ | Florian was talking about adding some of the SIMpad code to the hh.org 2.6 tree the other day. |
| 22:53.59 | mickeyl | pb_: ah cool. that's zecke's code. he has a 2.6 running on the SIMpad with nearly everything functional |
| 22:54.07 | pb_ | ah, great. |
| 22:55.35 | cyn_ | oh sure, don't be dependant on binary modules for flash memory access |
| 22:55.55 | cyn_ | showoffs. |
| 23:19.29 | chuckr | well, I've completely struck out at trying to get either usb or 802.11 networking from my Mac to the 760. I don't know if that's because (1) the mac uses private "friendly" words for the 802 setup, and I don't know what the essid/key/nwid,passphrase/whatever really is, because they don't call them that, nor cross-reference, or 2) because I didn't connect to Linux, or 3) because I'm not a linux-ite, and just have been ham-h |
| 23:19.29 | chuckr | anded. |
| 23:19.51 | chuckr | Is there any better chance of my getting it to work, if I bring up a Llinux box? With a 802.11 card in it? |
| 23:20.36 | chuckr | I really, really want networking on my Z. I really want to work on Z development, but I can't do that if I can't get to square one in communications. |
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| 23:24.27 | pb_ | well, networking between Z and Linux is at least something that others have working. I don't know if anybody has ever managed to set it up on a Mac. |
| 23:24.43 | pb_ | for 802.11, your best bet is probably to buy a regular access point and use that. |
| 23:25.10 | chouimat | http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/319/31951.html |
| 23:28.23 | chuckr | I have a box I could have linux running on in one hour, I have a 802.11 card I could stick in the box, how bad is the config on the Linux box? |
| 23:29.04 | chouimat | mickeyl_away: later |
| 23:29.05 | chuckr | huh I think I'm becoming a pariah with all this. Damn |
| 23:29.56 | chuckr | I'll be back later, once I have the Linux box up with the 802.11 card in it. I'm really serious about this, I'll try anything whatsoever to get this going. |
| 23:30.06 | pb_ | Not too bad. There's copious documentation, and on a modern distribution it ought to be almost plug and play. |
| 23:30.49 | chuckr | OK. /Right now, for some reason, when I set up something like, say, the channel with iwconfig on the Z, and immediately check it with iwspy, it's not changed at all |
| 23:31.36 | chuckr | holy shit, it's working |
| 23:32.25 | chuckr | 'scuse my language, I couldn't control myself. |
| 23:32.51 | chuckr | HEY treke!!! |
| 23:33.15 | chuckr | do folks watch for their names electronically (does it help to do what I just did?) |
| 23:36.25 | pb_ | Yeah, though you might have to address all the treke|whatevers individually to be sure of getting a rise out of him. |
| 23:37.19 | chouimat | pb_: hehe treke* don't work :( |
| 23:37.30 | pb_ | hehe, indeed. |
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| 23:46.32 | chuckr | well, I just hope that things keep on working, is all I want. |
| 23:46.45 | chuckr | trekelhome, where the heck are yuh? |
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