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| 01:15.57 | absentia | so wife just came to me and said she didn't want to fight... and then brought me dinner sandwich, popcorn, and a beer. |
| 01:16.17 | treke|home | Sounds like a winner to me |
| 01:16.30 | absentia | that's why I married'r :-) |
| 01:17.05 | absentia | she knows we have different beliefs... it's just that it seems to hurt her too much to talk about (ie: question) hers... where I welcome and encourage questioning of mine. |
| 01:22.35 | treke|home | hehe. I'd be in trouble if I married someone like that |
| 01:22.40 | absentia | why ? |
| 01:24.04 | Twiun | his religion is woman-chasing |
| 01:24.06 | treke|home | I often forget that others can be much more sensitive to topics than I am. |
| 01:24.12 | absentia | agreed |
| 01:24.15 | absentia | same here |
| 01:24.28 | absentia | but it's usually based around inseciruty |
| 01:24.35 | absentia | people aren't ready to have their world rocked that way. |
| 01:24.39 | absentia | they're content in their fantasy. |
| 01:24.40 | treke|home | I try not to get offended by discussions unless the other person is really trying to be offensive |
| 01:24.57 | absentia | I want to put up a questionaire on my webpage |
| 01:25.06 | absentia | along the lines of... if I had my way... |
| 01:25.26 | absentia | and ask questions.. and if you get the answer wrong, according to me, you'd not see the next question (ie: you'd be killed) |
| 01:25.32 | absentia | just to see what furor it creates :-> |
| 01:26.07 | cyn | absentia: I'd close my browser on the first page. |
| 01:26.24 | treke|home | hehe. |
| 01:26.27 | absentia | yes, that's acceptable. |
| 01:26.49 | absentia | reminds me |
| 01:26.56 | absentia | I need to write up a quick cgi to generate my home page |
| 01:27.00 | absentia | it's too static now |
| 01:27.02 | absentia | www.spy.org |
| 01:28.07 | absentia | you're going to have to select the correct key(s) to get in |
| 01:28.17 | absentia | if you don't, you'll be redicrected to a random spy agency |
| 01:28.25 | absentia | and it will remember your IP... |
| 01:28.44 | cyn | sounds like a lot of work to get people to go away |
| 01:28.52 | absentia | this is nothing. |
| 01:29.05 | absentia | my old system you had to go through a 404 page to get in |
| 01:29.08 | cyn | you antialiased those keys on a white background |
| 01:29.20 | absentia | actually |
| 01:29.27 | absentia | I cut them from a grey background 9 years ago |
| 01:29.33 | cyn | ah |
| 01:29.35 | absentia | I need to antialias them again... to blue the edges |
| 01:29.37 | cyn | fair enough |
| 01:29.43 | absentia | and shrink their size |
| 01:29.45 | cyn | but the background of that page is black |
| 01:29.47 | absentia | they look choppy ... |
| 01:30.00 | absentia | I know, I'm expermenting.. they don't look good on a lighter background. |
| 01:30.07 | cyn | ah hehe |
| 01:30.22 | absentia | go back |
| 01:30.23 | absentia | shift reload |
| 01:30.40 | absentia | plus, the scanner wasn't as good as they are now |
| 01:30.44 | absentia | the images are pixely. |
| 01:36.12 | _Psycho | Im curious, if i compile an apps using qt-embedded-free-3.2.3 and i staticaly link the lib into the apps, the apps should run on a qt-2.3.7 device ? |
| 01:36.26 | treke|home | maybe |
| 01:36.33 | absentia | qt 3.x? for embedded? |
| 01:36.33 | absentia | nice. |
| 01:36.35 | treke|home | I'm gonna vote for no though |
| 01:36.40 | _Psycho | =p |
| 01:36.43 | treke|home | absentia: It's been out for a long time |
| 01:36.53 | absentia | I want to get qt3 support onmy z |
| 01:37.06 | absentia | although I'm comfortable writing qt3 apps that dumb down when they detect qt2 |
| 01:37.10 | chouimat | treke: _Psycho it will work .... |
| 01:37.19 | treke|home | chouimat: Did You try it out? |
| 01:37.23 | absentia | did you see my mahjong board images? |
| 01:37.28 | _Psycho | Hmm |
| 01:37.32 | treke|home | I know zecke was playing with it, didnt know the outcom |
| 01:38.05 | chouimat | treke|home: once ... but it's too much trouble |
| 01:38.08 | treke|home | absentia: With a couple hours work you can probably make opie build against qt3 |
| 01:38.18 | absentia | nice |
| 01:38.21 | _Psycho | Its possible to recompile qtopia-1.7 and qt-3.2.3 and put them on a Z in thoery ? |
| 01:38.36 | chouimat | _Psycho: if you port qtopia-1.7 to qt3 |
| 01:38.42 | treke|home | yup. |
| 01:38.42 | chouimat | then yes |
| 01:38.53 | _Psycho | i thought 1.7 was 3.2.3 already |
| 01:38.56 | treke|home | no it isnt |
| 01:38.59 | treke|home | it's 2.3 |
| 01:39.05 | _Psycho | oh |
| 01:39.17 | chouimat | qtopia won't use qt3 they will use qt4 when it will be ready |
| 01:39.35 | _Psycho | oh, strange =p |
| 01:39.53 | treke|home | ljp said there were performance issues |
| 01:40.03 | _Psycho | I see |
| 01:40.23 | chouimat | _Psycho: qt3 is more resource expensive than qt2 |
| 01:40.42 | _Psycho | i figured that part without checking it =p |
| 01:41.04 | _Psycho | i was just wondering is 1.7.0 could replace 1.5.4 on my thing and work better =p |
| 01:41.12 | chouimat | _Psycho: but if you have an embedded device with 256mb ram it's ok :) |
| 01:41.36 | _Psycho | s/is/if |
| 01:42.13 | _Psycho | so i compile qtopia-1.7.0 and just dumb it into my zaurus and pray it start ? :) |
| 01:45.16 | chouimat | hmmm just drank 3 beers and I'm feeling sleepy as hell |
| 01:47.25 | absentia | what beer? |
| 01:55.29 | Twiun | g'night |
| 01:55.32 | absentia | night |
| 01:56.14 | chouimat | absentia: Alexander Keith's India Pale Ale |
| 01:56.49 | absentia | ah |
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| 02:09.51 | absentia | ok |
| 02:10.02 | absentia | that home page oughta give kiddies some fun... for a while. |
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| 02:34.37 | treke|home | yo mithro |
| 02:39.29 | _Psycho | well everything building fine |
| 02:39.39 | _Psycho | i wonder how hard it is to change 1.5.4 to 1.7.0 |
| 02:39.50 | _Psycho | im gonna build a rom after ;) |
| 02:39.53 | treke|home | installl the cack images? |
| 02:39.57 | _Psycho | yes |
| 02:40.06 | _Psycho | using the cacko image |
| 02:40.07 | treke|home | that's what his images are |
| 02:40.14 | _Psycho | its 1.5.4 |
| 02:40.34 | _Psycho | but using his rootfs, should not be hard to upgrade (I hope) |
| 02:40.54 | treke|home | PIM apllication from 3.10 not work because it need commercial libsl.so library. |
| 02:41.00 | treke|home | http://cacko.biz/hybrid.html |
| 02:41.06 | _Psycho | thanks link |
| 02:41.06 | treke|home | They use 1.6.2 |
| 02:41.25 | _Psycho | its 5500 only |
| 02:41.30 | _Psycho | c7x0 one use 1.5.4 |
| 02:48.06 | mithro | treke|home: yo? whats up? |
| 02:48.19 | treke|home | not much |
| 02:48.30 | treke|home | playing with the kernel a bit |
| 02:48.32 | mithro | how goes your images? |
| 02:48.45 | treke|home | did some benchmarking on the hardware rotation in X |
| 02:49.21 | mithro | how much does it effect performance |
| 02:49.34 | treke|home | with the patch enabled it's about 6 times faster |
| 02:49.36 | mithro | btw i found out how to get the libsl working, a guy showed me how |
| 02:49.40 | treke|home | in X |
| 02:49.48 | treke|home | qte is a bit more efficient |
| 02:50.25 | mithro | any news on the person who was splitting out the AtiCore? |
| 02:50.34 | treke|home | sash? havent heard anything |
| 02:51.24 | mithro | i'll have to go pester him sometime :) |
| 02:51.29 | treke|home | hehe |
| 02:52.01 | treke|home | man. i got none of the code I wanted to work on done |
| 02:52.14 | mithro | we need some type of benchmarking for qte ;) |
| 02:53.46 | W8TVI | anyone watch monster garage? |
| 02:54.04 | W8TVI | where they make the full size RC card? |
| 02:54.17 | treke|home | monster garage sucked |
| 02:54.56 | _Psycho | mithro libsdl for what ? |
| 02:55.14 | treke|home | _Psycho: libsl |
| 02:55.17 | treke|home | not sdl |
| 02:55.32 | _Psycho | oops msireading |
| 02:55.33 | _Psycho | mis* |
| 02:56.00 | treke|home | mithro: kergoth has a working 3.3.2 toolchain, so I might use that |
| 02:56.03 | _Psycho | damn compile take forever :) |
| 02:56.07 | treke|home | mithro: and make a new image |
| 02:59.46 | mithro | RC card? |
| 02:59.55 | W8TVI | car |
| 03:00.06 | mithro | ahh :) |
| 03:00.25 | mithro | treke|home: if you don't mind including the res changing patch in your images it would be good |
| 03:02.47 | treke|home | mithro: My images are all 3.3.5, so no additions :) |
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| 03:10.49 | mithro | but it's so useful to change resolutions :) |
| 03:11.23 | treke|home | considering it's utterly useless since the touchscreen and fonts don't adjust, why include it :) |
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| 03:12.34 | mithro | bah :) |
| 03:12.45 | chouimat | treke|home: try "miserable failure" in google |
| 03:13.10 | mithro | he he :) |
| 03:13.34 | treke|home | ha |
| 03:13.56 | chouimat | treke|home: that on www.heise.de |
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| 04:30.36 | treke|home | yo ljp |
| 04:30.56 | treke|home | wonder what to do for dinner |
| 04:40.59 | ljp | pizza |
| 04:52.02 | ljp | akk, my neck hurtas |
| 04:52.20 | ljp | bleh |
| 05:00.52 | treke|home | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:00.58 | treke|home | but there is no one here to cook it for me |
| 05:02.25 | ljp | sugar: make treke a home cooked meal |
| 05:03.01 | ljp | bitch |
| 05:03.07 | absentia | heheh |
| 05:04.55 | ljp | how typical |
| 05:08.56 | _Psycho | ljp i have a question |
| 05:09.18 | _Psycho | i compile qte with like -system-jpeg -system-png etc |
| 05:09.37 | _Psycho | work fine when he build the .libqte.so i see the -lpng -ljpeg in the line |
| 05:10.30 | _Psycho | i compile qtopia, i get libqte.so: undefined reference to "png_error' etc etc with like others ref |
| 05:10.36 | _Psycho | any quick suggestion |
| 05:10.45 | _Psycho | the configure of qtopia doesnt have much option |
| 05:10.51 | _Psycho | other than platform and shared |
| 05:13.50 | ljp | mm |
| 05:13.55 | ljp | hmm |
| 05:15.10 | ljp | might have to poit that out to someone. I thik I have run into that as well |
| 05:15.10 | ljp | s/poit/point |
| 05:15.53 | ljp | hey australian womens field hockey is on |
| 05:16.12 | ljp | their uniforms are kinda sexy even. I might have to watch this |
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| 05:16.54 | _Psycho_ | grr other pc crashed |
| 05:16.57 | _Psycho_ | sorry ljp |
| 05:17.00 | _Psycho_ | all i saw was mm |
| 05:17.23 | ljp | oh. I said.. |
| 05:17.44 | ljp | I might have tp point that out to someone, as I think I ran into that as well |
| 05:17.46 | _Psycho_ | i was checking my other compile i did the other day, the Makefile file are similar hmm |
| 05:17.55 | _Psycho_ | Oh i see |
| 05:18.10 | _Psycho_ | I didnt got that with 1.6.2 but i get it with 1.7.0 |
| 05:18.29 | ljp | ahh, ok. I'll get someone to fix that |
| 05:18.39 | _Psycho_ | Ok |
| 05:18.47 | _Psycho_ | while waiting anyway to "avoid it" ? |
| 05:19.37 | ljp | maybe compile qte without --system- :) |
| 05:19.37 | _Psycho_ | adding -lpng doesnt evne work |
| 05:19.43 | _Psycho_ | ok |
| 05:19.45 | _Psycho_ | ill try that |
| 05:19.58 | _Psycho_ | does that mean qte will use the "internal" lib ? |
| 05:20.04 | ljp | yes |
| 05:20.11 | _Psycho_ | should i put recent version in 3rdpaty/libpng |
| 05:20.18 | _Psycho_ | or just keep the current one ? |
| 05:20.23 | ljp | naaa. might not compile then :D |
| 05:20.45 | _Psycho_ | ok |
| 05:20.45 | _Psycho_ | hehe |
| 05:21.13 | _Psycho_ | well its something weird in qtopia 1.7.0 ? i compiled qte-2.3.7 last 3 weeks i didnt had this problem witht he same file |
| 05:23.25 | ljp | I dont know. I can check it out, but I hit my head while swimming, and my neck has a kink in it :) |
| 05:23.52 | _Psycho_ | Ok well, i leave qt compile a bit brb |
| 05:24.00 | _Psycho_ | i recompile without -ssytem |
| 05:24.55 | ljp | ya, try that and see how it does. |
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| 05:42.15 | ljp | hey, I like watching womens field hockey |
| 05:42.24 | ljp | these chicks are good |
| 05:49.05 | Soopaman | what chan!!! :) |
| 05:49.28 | ljp | hmm |
| 05:49.37 | ljp | ABC |
| 05:49.40 | ljp | I think |
| 05:49.45 | ljp | China vs. Australia |
| 05:50.36 | ljp | cept the best .au player got injured |
| 06:00.50 | _Psycho_ | lpj, well even with png fixed, i got that from the same module (sysinfo) libqpe.so: undefined reference to `qt_left_hand_scrollbars' |
| 06:01.09 | _Psycho_ | quite annoying :) |
| 06:01.20 | _Psycho_ | maybe i should not use the snapsnot ;) |
| 06:02.48 | _Psycho_ | i try the standard version now |
| 06:04.26 | ljp | no, the snapshot should have the lefthandscroll bars |
| 06:04.30 | ljp | thing |
| 06:05.13 | ljp | hmm. |
| 06:05.23 | ljp | I cant really think right ow |
| 06:05.49 | _Psycho_ | Will see after the the non-snapshot thing build |
| 06:05.55 | _Psycho_ | if i get the same thing |
| 06:06.03 | _Psycho_ | maybe i just forgot something who know :) |
| 06:07.32 | ljp | sounds like libqpe was trying to link with an older version of qte |
| 06:08.20 | _Psycho_ | Ill do a search in case but i doubt ;) |
| 06:09.56 | ljp | were you using a snapshot of both qte and qtopia? |
| 06:10.11 | _Psycho_ | no qte was 2.3.7 standard |
| 06:10.21 | _Psycho_ | thats the prob you think ? |
| 06:10.38 | ljp | ahh. the qt_left_hand_scrollbars were in a later qte snapshot |
| 06:10.47 | _Psycho_ | Oh |
| 06:10.48 | _Psycho_ | ok |
| 06:10.54 | _Psycho_ | damn another qte compile :) |
| 06:11.47 | _Psycho_ | 2.3.8 i gyuess ! |
| 06:11.48 | _Psycho_ | hehe |
| 06:11.54 | _Psycho_ | damn long day to compile and recompile ;) |
| 06:11.54 | ljp | :) |
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| 06:13.06 | _Psycho_ | should i compile 2.3.8 with -system-joeg or without you think ? :) |
| 06:13.49 | _Psycho_ | I guess i wont risk it |
| 06:24.29 | ljp | ya, it might be qtopia 1.7 is borked for using qte with --system |
| 06:27.46 | ljp | hmmm |
| 06:29.26 | _Psycho_ | i had some problem with atd too but i just skipped that |
| 06:29.39 | ljp | ya, that dang atd |
| 06:30.15 | W8TVI | isn't real-time electronic interpersonal communications fun? |
| 06:30.39 | _Psycho_ | stupid error with marh-types whatever, i will use an already builded version ;) |
| 06:31.48 | ljp | W8: no |
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| 06:45.46 | _Psycho_ | Ok i guess 2.3.8 fixed the first problem |
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| 06:46.20 | _Psycho_ | ljp what the big difference between including png into libqte or making it externe ? only the size ? |
| 06:47.26 | ljp | yes .. linking |
| 06:47.42 | _Psycho_ | ah ok |
| 06:47.50 | _Psycho_ | Question |
| 06:48.23 | _Psycho_ | you think its possible to put 1.7.0 on a c700 ? i mean using cacko rom and putting the new version ? |
| 06:48.59 | _Psycho_ | Treke was saying earlier (i saw that on the web page) like pim 3.10 doesnt work witout libsl.* but except that ? should be possible isnt ? |
| 06:49.28 | cyn | 1.7? |
| 06:49.31 | cyn | opie ? |
| 06:49.41 | _Psycho_ | qtopia |
| 06:49.48 | _Psycho_ | 1.54 to 1.70 |
| 06:57.45 | ljp | yes, I create c700 1.7 images all he time |
| 06:58.14 | ljp | just waiting for being able to release them |
| 06:58.32 | _Psycho_ | Ah cool i try that then |
| 06:58.49 | _Psycho_ | i want to use cacko one and just include 1.7 since he have already ac ouple of nice features in it |
| 06:58.50 | ljp | there's a few patches I have to add, but I think all of them are in buildroot |
| 07:00.32 | cyn | can't release qtopia 1.7 yet ? |
| 07:02.44 | cyn | can you not release binaries or somethin |
| 07:03.57 | ljp | I am waiting to release the images with qtopia 1.7 |
| 07:04.20 | ljp | it will be released in conjunction with something really cool |
| 07:07.53 | ljp | but its based on OZ |
| 07:08.33 | cyn | 'something really cool' sounds mysterious |
| 07:08.52 | _Psycho_ | grrr |
| 07:08.59 | _Psycho_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:08.59 | _Psycho_ | /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -luuid |
| 07:09.08 | treke|laptop | install e2fsprogs |
| 07:09.14 | _Psycho_ | already did |
| 07:09.30 | _Psycho_ | so i need to compile it for x86 and not arm or what ? |
| 07:10.55 | Disconnect | treke|laptop: you have any input on packaging/image styles? got some thoughts, want to run them buy someone before I try coding them up in OE ;) |
| 07:11.58 | treke|laptop | _Psycho_: shouldnt |
| 07:12.05 | treke|laptop | packaging/image styles? |
| 07:12.13 | _Psycho_ | damn stupid qtopia 1.7.0 ! |
| 07:12.15 | Disconnect | yah. what goes on which image, the root/home split sizes, etc |
| 07:12.24 | ljp | cyn: it is |
| 07:12.33 | treke|laptop | Disconnect: for? |
| 07:13.00 | Disconnect | treke|laptop: OE/OZ-as-built-from-OE (as distinct from the soon-dead buildroot) |
| 07:13.32 | treke|laptop | I wouldnt worry about ram splits at this point |
| 07:13.56 | treke|laptop | they are just different kernel builds |
| 07:14.23 | treke|laptop | as for packages, I'd say just enough to get to a login prompt for a start |
| 07:18.22 | ljp | ya, who needs a gui anyway |
| 07:19.07 | _Psycho_ | i dont get why its tellking me its incompatible |
| 07:19.30 | ljp | that would be cool to have a z with console only pim apps |
| 07:19.51 | Disconnect | ljp: my though is, with the bind mounts that OE has, login prompt on (ro) / with opie[-login] or X or whatever (upgradable stuff) on /home makes a lot of sense.. |
| 07:20.30 | Disconnect | ..(ok so /home wouldn't exist as such, with bind mounting, but you get my meaning ;) ..) |
| 07:22.44 | _Psycho_ | Oh i think i found the prob, its the Makefile in that dir that is not ok, probably some bug in 1.7.0 |
| 07:23.20 | Disconnect | IIRC you can bind-mount a partition while its still mounted elsewhere. (so you'd have something like mtd1 on / ro, mtd2 on / bind-mounted, mtd on /tmp/rootfs normal.. back up the entire device by backing up /tmp/rootfs, regardless of what files have been added or changed..) |
| 07:35.00 | _Psycho_ | ljp if you wanna fill another bug, the Makefile in src/server is not getting updated, he was still poiting on generic / gcc |
| 07:35.03 | _Psycho_ | =p |
| 07:35.34 | ljp | hmmmm |
| 07:35.56 | _Psycho_ | snapshot* |
| 07:36.06 | _Psycho_ | tahts why i was getting a inconpatbile uuid |
| 07:41.29 | _Psycho_ | I have to replace quickexe for quicklauncher right ? |
| 07:46.01 | _Psycho_ | hmm i wonder why i have some libqtopia with 1.7.0 but none on my C with 1.5.4 ;) |
| 07:46.54 | ljp | quickexec is an older version of quicklaunch. |
| 07:47.02 | _Psycho_ | yeah thats what i thought |
| 07:47.07 | _Psycho_ | what about about libqtopia ? |
| 07:47.12 | ljp | quicklauncher is much better |
| 07:47.25 | _Psycho_ | I hope i can get a running version by tomorow =p |
| 07:47.30 | _Psycho_ | on my Z :) |
| 07:47.50 | ljp | ahh. I have a 1.7 image for z |
| 07:52.37 | _Psycho_ | ljp |
| 07:52.47 | _Psycho_ | do you have the rootfs ? i could compare |
| 07:53.11 | _Psycho_ | btw, what ist he maximum size, it seem that it show like 25megs on the parition |
| 07:53.30 | _Psycho_ | I dont want to put 1.7 and use too much space |
| 07:53.47 | _Psycho_ | Or maybe i should eare stuff like opera and add them in ipk |
| 07:53.48 | _Psycho_ | later |
| 07:53.50 | _Psycho_ | ls |
| 07:55.19 | _Psycho_ | weird libqtopia is still caleed 1.6.2 |
| 07:55.24 | _Psycho_ | in the lib dir |
| 08:29.08 | _Psycho_ | grr too big :0 |
| 08:34.54 | _Psycho_ | someone know the maximum size of a initrd.bin ? |
| 08:37.12 | ljp | for what device? |
| 08:37.20 | _Psycho_ | c700 |
| 08:37.28 | ljp | sharps are around 24 mb |
| 08:37.33 | _Psycho_ | my image is too big i guessi get error at end |
| 08:37.34 | _Psycho_ | damn |
| 08:38.28 | _Psycho_ | i have to cut 3 megs |
| 08:38.39 | _Psycho_ | i already flushed netfront :) |
| 08:40.24 | _Psycho_ | is pics144 needed ? I only see pics in the qtopia 1.7.0 dir ;) |
| 08:51.36 | _Psycho_ | hmmm mediaplayer include libffmpeg now ? |
| 08:55.08 | _Psycho_ | Ill probably just remove opera thats take a lots of space |
| 08:55.15 | _Psycho_ | and install the .ipk ;) |
| 08:55.17 | ljp | thats stuff is in qtopia source |
| 08:55.28 | ljp | ffmpeg |
| 08:55.32 | _Psycho_ | yeah i know i saw |
| 08:55.52 | _Psycho_ | hmm image down to 28 megs, i guess opera if that doesnt work |
| 08:57.14 | _Psycho_ | hehe a friend just called me at 4am |
| 08:57.17 | _Psycho_ | he did a wrong number |
| 08:57.23 | _Psycho_ | im usually in bed at this hour |
| 08:58.36 | _Psycho_ | ljp you know what is the pics144 dir for ? |
| 09:01.37 | ljp | where's that at? |
| 09:01.49 | _Psycho_ | its in cacko roms |
| 09:01.56 | _Psycho_ | but its not in the 1.7 dir |
| 09:02.00 | _Psycho_ | wonder what its for |
| 09:02.01 | _Psycho_ | its 5 megs |
| 09:02.15 | _Psycho_ | hmm down to 25.7 |
| 09:02.51 | _Psycho_ | does 1.7 feel "faster" than 1.54 ? |
| 09:03.05 | _Psycho_ | and i never found alist of "feature" from 1.54 to 1.7 ;) |
| 09:04.40 | ljp | 1.7 _is_ faster than sharps |
| 09:04.57 | ljp | lets just say, 1.54 is two years old |
| 09:05.05 | _Psycho_ | yeah figured that :) |
| 09:05.19 | _Psycho_ | i installed linux 2.6.0-test9 today |
| 09:05.27 | _Psycho_ | my usb storage thing act weird |
| 09:05.32 | _Psycho_ | im not sure my image copied ok on my sd |
| 09:06.00 | _Psycho_ | 25.7 = ok |
| 09:06.08 | _Psycho_ | size wize |
| 09:06.14 | _Psycho_ | wise |
| 09:06.20 | _Psycho_ | *praying* |
| 09:07.10 | _Psycho_ | ack i got a blackscreen of death ! |
| 09:07.47 | ljp | maybe has to be less than 24 |
| 09:08.09 | _Psycho_ | well it flashed ok |
| 09:08.12 | _Psycho_ | no error like the others |
| 09:08.31 | _Psycho_ | i will reload my image in case |
| 09:08.37 | _Psycho_ | maybe i need a format too ? |
| 09:09.45 | _Psycho_ | cacko rom is 26.1 so im ok |
| 09:12.34 | ljp | ahh |
| 09:21.15 | _Psycho_ | well after kernel boot im only getting a black screen |
| 09:21.20 | _Psycho_ | oh nm |
| 09:21.23 | _Psycho_ | i got it |
| 09:21.27 | _Psycho_ | after the format |
| 09:21.59 | _Psycho_ | Welcome to the zaurus, tap anywhere on the screen to continue |
| 09:22.04 | _Psycho_ | hmm TS doesnt work =p |
| 09:22.56 | _Psycho_ | at least i saw something ! |
| 09:23.12 | _Psycho_ | TS that doesnt work sound bad thought :) |
| 09:24.23 | _Psycho_ | i was "THAT" close ! |
| 09:24.42 | _Psycho_ | ljp any suggestion for the TS ? (if you still around) |
| 09:26.50 | _Psycho_ | Im kinda clueless where to start to check for that |
| 09:29.44 | ljp | theres a patch to qte to allow it to use tslib, which has support for the c700 |
| 09:30.46 | _Psycho_ | Oh i never saw it in qtopia-1.7.0 |
| 09:30.52 | _Psycho_ | or its not a qtopia patch ? |
| 09:30.59 | _Psycho_ | I see what you mean |
| 09:32.26 | ljp | its in buildroot |
| 09:32.35 | _Psycho_ | not enough space to download the buildroot |
| 09:32.36 | _Psycho_ | ;) |
| 09:32.46 | ljp | I can email you the patch |
| 09:32.51 | _Psycho_ | ill brwose the cvs |
| 09:32.55 | _Psycho_ | would be grreat too |
| 09:32.58 | _Psycho_ | colsen@sympatico.ca |
| 09:33.04 | _Psycho_ | any other patch i would need ? |
| 09:33.09 | _Psycho_ | or thats the only one i need for 1.7 ? |
| 09:33.31 | ljp | patch is against qte, and you will need tslib |
| 09:34.06 | _Psycho_ | hmm and i just include tslib in the lib dir, thats it ? |
| 09:34.54 | ljp | ya |
| 09:35.01 | ljp | I believe so |
| 09:40.02 | _Psycho_ | hmm stupid thing my hd is close to full |
| 09:40.13 | _Psycho_ | hard to find stuff in the web cvs :) |
| 09:43.44 | _Psycho_ | cool gonna rebuild libqte :) |
| 09:45.32 | _Psycho_ | where is tslib" in the packages of oz? |
| 09:53.14 | _Psycho_ | i hope the cvs tslib will work fine :) |
| 09:58.48 | _Psycho_ | hmm it game me a libts.so i thought it was tslib.so =p |
| 09:58.52 | _Psycho_ | gave* |
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| 10:06.46 | _Psycho_ | gah |
| 10:06.52 | _Psycho_ | build error since patch |
| 10:08.17 | _Psycho_ | anyway bed time i check tomorow to finish my image |
| 10:08.20 | _Psycho_ | damns 5am ;) |
| 10:08.27 | _Psycho_ | thanks a lots of all the help today |
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| 11:41.09 | Twiun | g'morning |
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| 16:04.09 | TheMasterMind1 | morning |
| 16:04.27 | Twiun | howdy |
| 16:05.41 | alexannika | good evening - at least for me ;-) |
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| 16:40.41 | mickeyl | SDL expertes around? |
| 16:40.45 | mickeyl | experts even |
| 16:40.53 | Twiun | speaking spanish were we? |
| 16:41.08 | mickeyl | yeah, been infected by pedro escobar |
| 16:41.10 | mickeyl | :D |
| 16:41.50 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 16:41.55 | mickeyl | can't find SDL_rotozoom in my SDL |
| 16:42.02 | mickeyl | it is supposed to be there |
| 16:42.28 | mickeyl | urgh that's an extra package |
| 16:42.31 | mickeyl | k nm |
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| 17:09.03 | mickeyl | i'm thinking about submitting a paper to the embedded track for fosdem... but deadline in in 10 days and I'm pretty busy... |
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| 17:09.52 | pb_ | mickeyl: yah, me too |
| 17:10.46 | mickeyl | can't afford to be there as visitor, though :) so either it's trough an accepted paper and payed by university or not at all :) |
| 17:11.16 | pb_ | heh |
| 17:11.30 | yeiazel | hurry up, then |
| 17:11.34 | pb_ | I went last year, and I don't think it was very expensive. |
| 17:12.18 | Twiun | I thought fosdem was contributions-based? |
| 17:12.28 | mickeyl | is it? |
| 17:12.33 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 17:12.39 | Twiun | so it says on the frontpage :) |
| 17:12.46 | mickeyl | anyhow an opie paper would be nice wouldn't it? |
| 17:12.58 | mickeyl | or something 'bout oz and our openembedded project |
| 17:13.01 | Twiun | yeah, it would... but you've got your phd to do :) |
| 17:13.07 | mickeyl | right... |
| 17:13.14 | mickeyl | hey i just went for two more years... |
| 17:13.19 | pb_ | Right. You don't have to pay for the conference itself, just travel and accomodation in Brussels. |
| 17:14.08 | Twiun | mickeyl: you did? so that means to can waste more time doing OSS stuff? |
| 17:14.33 | Twiun | yeah, expensive enough granted but some conferences charge exhorbitant amounts just to attend |
| 17:14.48 | mickeyl | Twiun: no. that means OSS stuff held me back finishing in time :( |
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| 17:15.22 | Twiun | ahhh |
| 17:15.22 | mickeyl | my time management sucks |
| 17:15.22 | Twiun | mine's not so good either |
| 17:17.43 | mickeyl | i wonder what tronical is working on these days... |
| 17:17.46 | mickeyl | ibot: seen tronical |
| 17:17.47 | | tronical <~simon@www.sjs-augustinus.wh.uni-erlangen.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #openembedded, 43d 21h 20m 51s ago, saying: 'lpotter_: I hacked up one, ages ago. not sure it's still in the buildroot'. |
| 17:18.09 | yeiazel | sounds like someone's playing with the fire alarm here |
| 17:18.32 | yeiazel | love this kind of music |
| 17:21.34 | Twiun | mickeyl: probably studying or on holiday round the world |
| 17:22.27 | mickeyl | i noticed he's still posting on konq/e mailing list |
| 17:22.30 | mickeyl | konq/e went to qt3 |
| 17:22.40 | mickeyl | i wonder when we will follow... |
| 17:22.59 | mickeyl | k |
| 17:23.02 | mickeyl | oz 3.3.5 works on c860 now |
| 17:23.43 | Twiun | nice :) |
| 17:23.59 | mickeyl | using the husky kernel and image - just using a special updater.sh |
| 17:24.00 | Twiun | yeah, qt3 will be intersting, wonder how far round the corner qt4 is |
| 17:24.03 | yeiazel | isn't the c860 hardware exactly the same as c760 ? |
| 17:24.19 | mickeyl | yeiazel: that's not 100% sure yet. 99% yes, but 1% confimation is missing |
| 17:24.34 | mickeyl | Twiun: gonna pester ljp to give us a status report on that |
| 17:25.18 | mickeyl | there's something cooking in TT btw. ljp teases they may come with an important announcement soon (for us, the community) |
| 17:26.23 | Disconnect | important-good or just important? (eg "y'all suck, get the hell off our servers" is 'important' but not necessarily good..) ;) |
| 17:26.52 | Twiun | mickeyl: yeah I read the post too |
| 17:27.04 | Twiun | no, no, he did say good as well |
| 17:27.34 | Twiun | mickeyl: he's been sitting on that piece of news for a good few weeks |
| 17:28.23 | mickeyl | we could make use of good news... |
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| 17:34.15 | CIA | repository=03buildroot user=11mickey@allanon.vanille.de |
| 17:34.15 | CIA | 07ChangeSet@1.1381 apply bluetooth patch to kernel-collie-2.4.18 |
| 17:42.55 | Twiun | mickeyl: Mark Wielaard from GNU Classpath just pointed this out: http://jamvm.sourceforge.net/ - I'd know about it some time ago but they've finally got ARM support :) |
| 17:43.14 | mickeyl | hey, yet another jvm |
| 17:43.15 | Twiun | mickeyl: I'll look into it soon - can you imagine? 100k JVM binary? |
| 17:43.19 | mickeyl | never heard about that |
| 17:43.22 | mickeyl | 100k ? |
| 17:43.23 | mickeyl | spiffy |
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| 17:43.27 | Twiun | excluding class libs :) |
| 17:43.30 | mickeyl | sure |
| 17:43.44 | Twiun | and apparently the AWT works on it |
| 17:44.09 | Twiun | mickeyl: I'm not going to work on it more until GNU Classpath can use it |
| 17:44.17 | mickeyl | sure |
| 17:44.21 | Twiun | mickeyl: as there'd be no way of testing |
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| 18:45.54 | masticator | merry whateverthehell dudes. |
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| 18:51.21 | _Psycho_ | "afternoon" :) |
| 18:53.17 | _Psycho_ | God i think i got bed a bit too late last night |
| 18:56.58 | masticator | call me crazy but I am thinking of going back to sharp for a few months to help them out. |
| 18:57.41 | _Psycho | I got qtopia 1.7 running on my c700 =p |
| 18:57.46 | masticator | slick. |
| 18:57.46 | _Psycho | just have to fix the TS |
| 18:57.58 | _Psycho | ljp helped a tons last night ;) |
| 18:58.09 | pb_ | that's unlike him. |
| 18:58.12 | _Psycho | trying to patch that atm, using cacko rom hehe |
| 18:58.38 | masticator | is cacko OE based? |
| 18:59.09 | _Psycho | Nah its a sharp rom modified, (English conversion) and a lots of neet stuff in it |
| 18:59.11 | Disconnect | no. it actually works on 7x0. |
| 18:59.26 | masticator | but that means its quasi illegal to redistribute then |
| 18:59.41 | _Psycho | Including opera, english Hancom,adressebook etc etc |
| 18:59.52 | masticator | ah, definitely illegal. |
| 19:00.09 | Disconnect | yep. as soon as sharp cares, it'll prolly stop. |
| 19:00.39 | _Psycho | Anyway 1.54 to 1.7 is my goal |
| 19:00.43 | _Psycho | at least it was last night late ;) |
| 19:00.53 | _Psycho | If i canf ix that damn ts ;) |
| 19:00.58 | masticator | so the key then, is to get all this stuff running right on OE |
| 19:02.06 | Disconnect | so OZ needs to back down from gcc3 then... thats a first step. keyboard stuff is in progress, evidently. media player is a big one too. |
| 19:02.26 | masticator | OZ is totally GCC 3 now? |
| 19:02.33 | _Psycho | Nah |
| 19:02.36 | _Psycho | you can build on both |
| 19:02.37 | masticator | we blew zaurus compatability? |
| 19:02.38 | _Psycho | i did a while back |
| 19:02.43 | Disconnect | masticator: the releases are gcc3 |
| 19:02.51 | Disconnect | (3.3.5 is anyway, on all but one platform) |
| 19:02.56 | masticator | yeah, but that makes sense though |
| 19:03.06 | masticator | we always thought that the current zaurus stack was crap |
| 19:05.51 | gb2 | what stuff from the sharp roms do people generally want to use? |
| 19:06.01 | masticator | hancom and opera |
| 19:06.04 | masticator | and the pim |
| 19:06.16 | Disconnect | gb2: web browser of choice, hancom, maybe pim (depending on person) and java. |
| 19:06.21 | _Psycho | kino2 :) |
| 19:06.31 | _Psycho | ya basically |
| 19:06.31 | Disconnect | _Psycho: thats why I threw in java ;) |
| 19:06.37 | masticator | java of course is a serious issue |
| 19:06.43 | masticator | because it cannot be redistributed |
| 19:06.52 | _Psycho | java ? i hate java ;) |
| 19:06.53 | Disconnect | gb2: not necessarily java off the sharprom, but some equivalent.. |
| 19:07.01 | masticator | neither can theothe things actualy |
| 19:07.18 | masticator | but we did at one point make a script that extracts them out of the rom and creates package files |
| 19:07.19 | Disconnect | masticator: none of it can be redistributed. so the trick is force people to save ipks before flashing. (maybe even build it into updater.sh..?) |
| 19:10.59 | Disconnect | unless the license agreement is weird (no idea if it is) thats perfectly legit. |
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| 19:11.45 | Disconnect | you can even go a step farther with some - eg hh.o (compaq) recommends getting ppc images out of the update files if you lose your backup. (the basic theory being you have a license since the hardware cannot be purchased bare) |
| 19:30.24 | treke|home | mornin |
| 19:31.53 | treke|home | Actually, hh.o just redistributes the wince images now since there arent update files for most devices |
| 19:34.36 | treke|home | mickey|bbl: I've got a kernel with all the new fancy crap booting |
| 19:36.32 | mickeyl | treke: cool. any visible differences ? |
| 19:36.56 | treke|home | mickeyl: Not that I've seen |
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| 19:49.44 | stevemcq | hello |
| 19:50.51 | treke|home | mickeyl: the touch screen stuff looks kinda cool |
| 19:51.32 | mickeyl | in how far? |
| 19:52.00 | treke|home | mickeyl: You shouldnt be applying the sysreq patch to the standard kernels :) |
| 19:52.21 | mickeyl | maybe |
| 19:52.29 | treke|home | It breaks the home key |
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| 19:52.35 | mickeyl | i know. but since we're in unstable mode... |
| 19:52.41 | mickeyl | besides that... patches welcome :) |
| 19:52.45 | mickeyl | (patches that enable both) |
| 19:53.12 | treke|home | Without the home key, navigation is a pain in the butt, no need in making oz unpleasant to use :) |
| 19:53.13 | mickeyl | bbl... watching a series |
| 19:53.28 | mickeyl | treke: feel free to rebuild all 4 kernels and put the online |
| 19:53.40 | treke|home | Four? |
| 19:53.51 | treke|home | Isnt it just 3? |
| 19:54.03 | mickey|tv | corgi,shepherd,husky,poodle |
| 19:54.08 | mickey|tv | bbl must run |
| 19:54.09 | treke|home | oh. Ok |
| 19:54.50 | mickey|tv | (you're right.... sysrq is corgi_keymap - no poodle) |
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| 19:55.30 | chouimat | hi |
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| 20:11.47 | _Psycho | damn tslib patch doesnt work like i want |
| 20:12.28 | chouimat | damn head hurt |
| 20:13.00 | Disconnect | damn got the death flu :( |
| 20:13.20 | treke|home | wtf |
| 20:13.29 | treke|home | Connecting to treke.net[192.216.230.225]:80... failed: Address family not supported by protocol. |
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| 20:13.54 | chouimat | treke|home: ouch |
| 20:14.19 | treke|home | I can talk to the server |
| 20:14.20 | treke|home | wget doesnt work though |
| 20:15.09 | chouimat | treke|home: is the server up? |
| 20:15.23 | treke|home | yup. |
| 20:15.53 | chouimat | weird |
| 20:17.34 | treke|home | wget was broken |
| 20:30.34 | _Psycho | ah yes finnaly |
| 20:30.41 | _Psycho | found the prob with my patches |
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| 20:44.28 | _Psycho | God i hope my image will work with the TS |
| 20:51.18 | _Psycho | *pray* |
| 20:51.56 | _Psycho | gah have to format i guess |
| 20:54.09 | _Psycho | damn black screen of death |
| 20:58.20 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 20:58.35 | mickeyl | that's why I prefer console=tty1 |
| 20:58.53 | _Psycho | to debug? :) |
| 20:59.11 | ljp | hmm, perhaps the tslib patches from buildroot are needed also |
| 20:59.25 | _Psycho | Already included them ljp |
| 20:59.28 | _Psycho | i pathed my tslib |
| 20:59.39 | _Psycho | rebuilding stuff in case atm |
| 21:00.41 | _Psycho | its hard to debug with only a black screen |
| 21:00.50 | _Psycho | but its sure the tslib stuff, i was getting the welcome last night :) |
| 21:01.24 | mickeyl | treke: just booted a shepherd kernel with the extra stuff... and... well... it could be imagination but I think there's a slight speedup |
| 21:03.28 | W8TVI | mickeyl: its your imagination |
| 21:03.35 | mickeyl | probably |
| 21:03.41 | ljp | mickeyl: maybe you just drank too much coffee |
| 21:04.00 | mickeyl | well at least the console is _much_ faster due to that CORGI_BUFFERABLE_LCD patch. that's no imagination |
| 21:04.43 | _Psycho | ljp in your own image you only patches the qt-2.3.x with the tslib patches and your tslib build and that work ? |
| 21:13.14 | Disconnect | mickeyl: is that gonna speed up qte as well? |
| 21:13.22 | mickeyl | no |
| 21:13.24 | Disconnect | damn :( |
| 21:15.48 | absentia | wtf is up with zug? |
| 21:16.41 | omin0us | absentia: what do you mean? |
| 21:18.01 | _Psycho | ljp if you show up around, do i need to patch qtopia or recompile it if i changed the ts in qte so he use it ? |
| 21:24.27 | _Psycho | Doh still doesnt work |
| 21:26.34 | ljp | I dont patch qtopia for tslib |
| 21:26.41 | _Psycho | damn |
| 21:26.46 | _Psycho | and you just include libts.so ? |
| 21:26.49 | _Psycho | and your libqte.so |
| 21:27.06 | _Psycho | i just patched the 3 files, say "QT_USE_TSLIB" in my -D |
| 21:27.08 | _Psycho | and thats about it |
| 21:27.11 | Disconnect | so which is the official 3.3.5? c760/initrd-gcc3 or c760/images/initrdf-gcc3? (ditto for zImage) |
| 21:27.12 | _Psycho | and patched my tslib |
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| 21:28.26 | absentia | psycho .. go look at zug ... |
| 21:28.32 | _Psycho | what for ? |
| 21:28.36 | _Psycho | i rarely visit zug |
| 21:28.45 | absentia | ~you tell me ... |
| 21:28.54 | absentia | nevermind, then. |
| 21:28.58 | _Psycho | Im not interested making 1.7 work on my z ;) |
| 21:29.33 | mickeyl | Disconnect: same. just symlinks on the server for the web interface |
| 21:29.52 | _Psycho | maybe i include my tslib worng in my image hmm |
| 21:30.16 | Disconnect | ah ok |
| 21:32.15 | CIA | repository=03buildroot user=11mickeyl@gandalf.tm.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de |
| 21:32.15 | CIA | 07ChangeSet@1.1380 misc. fixes |
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| 21:32.27 | ljp | if you werent interested in getting qtopia 1.7 on your z, why ask about patches? |
| 21:32.41 | _Psycho | oh |
| 21:32.45 | _Psycho | haha i mean i more interested |
| 21:32.48 | _Psycho | sorry typo |
| 21:32.50 | _Psycho | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:33.21 | _Psycho | hmm you include buildroot tslib patches in your tslib ? |
| 21:33.22 | _Psycho | i did |
| 21:33.25 | _Psycho | maybe its that ;) |
| 21:36.50 | chouimat | arrrgggg fucking SNOW |
| 21:38.00 | ljp | I used buildroot to build the images |
| 21:38.06 | ljp | snow?! |
| 21:38.34 | _Psycho | Ok so i include them all |
| 21:38.42 | ljp | theres a place here that has snow....... it's indoors, "Snow World" |
| 21:38.57 | ljp | I laughed so hard when I saw that |
| 21:39.33 | chouimat | ljp: hehe ... currently snowing here ... |
| 21:55.20 | masticator | wassup watermelons. |
| 22:07.21 | ljp | clouds |
| 22:07.44 | chouimat | nothing like going outside in underwear in a snow storm to get fully awak |
| 22:08.03 | ljp | its hot here |
| 22:08.13 | ljp | and no chance of snow |
| 22:08.48 | chouimat | ljp: I just took out the garbages |
| 22:28.27 | treke|home | we really need to straiten out permissions on oz.org |
| 22:30.23 | treke|home | actually the whole fs is a mess |
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| 22:36.18 | treke|home | mickeyl_away: Did you build corgi kernels with kernel-sheperd? |
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| 23:24.29 | Soopaman | whoa |
| 23:24.38 | Soopaman | i just saw my first linux commercial |
| 23:24.49 | treke|home | ibm? |
| 23:25.23 | Soopaman | yeah |
| 23:25.27 | W8TVI | look what we tought linux |
| 23:25.27 | Soopaman | good commercial too |
| 23:25.34 | treke|home | ibm commercials rock |
| 23:26.09 | W8TVI | we are going to teach Linux DRM and Trusted Computing |
| 23:26.24 | treke|home | http://treke.net/downloads/heist60.mpeg |
| 23:26.29 | treke|home | best ibm commercial ever |
| 23:26.45 | Soopaman | heh |
| 23:26.47 | W8TVI | IBM and HP want Llinux to use TC |
| 23:26.48 | Soopaman | fuck drm |
| 23:27.08 | Soopaman | isn't TC microsoft spawned? |
| 23:27.13 | W8TVI | it'll work just like palaidum |
| 23:27.14 | W8TVI | yep |
| 23:28.16 | W8TVI | it'll be free but MS/HP/IBM will be able to tell you what you can and cant do with your computer, and there will be nothing that you can do about it. |
| 23:28.37 | Soopaman | that's bullshit |
| 23:28.47 | W8TVI | if you don't beleve me, just check out HP/MS/IBM's websites |
| 23:28.57 | W8TVI | I'm sure you'll see it there |
| 23:29.02 | Soopaman | time for us to start buying computers from china |
| 23:29.08 | Soopaman | with their linux os |
| 23:29.27 | Soopaman | W8TVI, i believe you, i just don't with agree with the way it;s going |
| 23:29.33 | W8TVI | same here |
| 23:30.15 | W8TVI | they claim that it'll stop virii, spam and anything bad about computers... |
| 23:30.37 | Soopaman | heh |
| 23:30.39 | Soopaman | dumbasses |
| 23:30.46 | Soopaman | why not just fix the servers |
| 23:31.02 | Soopaman | since all virii spam and anything bad about computers goes through them first |
| 23:31.03 | W8TVI | be do you want to beleve Microsoft that put out the "best windows yet" that has even more holes than the last one? |
| 23:31.23 | W8TVI | the servers have nothing to do with it |
| 23:31.44 | W8TVI | and most of the servers on the internet run Linux, BSD, or UNIX |
| 23:31.47 | Soopaman | if the problems were stopped at the server before they reached the client, we wouldn't have most of the problems |
| 23:32.28 | W8TVI | Soopaman: its not the servers job to fix what dome moron in redmond screwed up in the first place |
| 23:33.00 | Soopaman | but why not use the server to cleanup what is wrong |
| 23:33.16 | Soopaman | or will we give them blind eye as well |
| 23:33.24 | W8TVI | Soopaman: because there is nothing that the server can do about it |
| 23:33.53 | W8TVI | an internet severs job it to move bits from here to there |
| 23:33.57 | W8TVI | not to filter it |
| 23:34.35 | W8TVI | filtering e-mail or anything else (other than running a firewall) has never worked, and never will |
| 23:34.55 | W8TVI | e-mail filtering never has worked, and never wil |
| 23:34.56 | W8TVI | l |
| 23:36.45 | W8TVI | I can't wait to see the first DRM virus that goes and spreads with the help of palladium that breaks it so all drm data is erased |
| 23:37.07 | W8TVI | Soopaman: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html |
| 23:37.46 | W8TVI | oh, and intel is in on it. AMD too |
| 23:42.22 | Soopaman | time to go transmeta and crusoe |
| 23:42.52 | W8TVI | Soopaman: so who will you talk to? |
| 23:43.09 | Soopaman | linus? :P\ |
| 23:43.25 | Soopaman | or better yet |
| 23:43.33 | Soopaman | i'll just go into consumer electronics |
| 23:43.40 | W8TVI | you'll have to have an intel box and MS office that suports DRM to be able to use documents that people send you |
| 23:44.09 | Soopaman | i'll be rich by then |
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| 23:44.21 | W8TVI | yeah, right |
| 23:45.53 | _Psycho | *flashing* |
| 23:45.56 | _Psycho | god i hope it work |
| 23:46.34 | TheMasterMind1 | Soopaman: rich eh? |
| 23:47.59 | _Psycho | woooo hoooo hoooo ! |
| 23:48.03 | _Psycho | woooo ! |
| 23:48.06 | _Psycho | and rewoo ! |
| 23:48.49 | _Psycho | <-- Qtopia 1.7.0 running on sash rom ;) |
| 23:49.14 | W8TVI | Soopaman: "In June 2002, Microsoft released information regarding its new "Palladium" initiative. Palladium is a system that combines software and hardware controls to create a "trusted" computing platform. In doing so, it would establish an unprecedented level of control over users and their computers." |
| 23:49.29 | W8TVI | http://www.epic.org/privacy/consumer/microsoft/palladium.html |
| 23:51.01 | _Psycho | Hmm it seem slow, and the ts look a bit buggy but thats work ;) |
| 23:51.15 | _Psycho | damn it look nice |
| 23:52.16 | _Psycho | hehe |
| 23:52.25 | _Psycho | damn its very slow /long to load |
| 23:52.35 | _Psycho | i reboot i hope the speed will come back |
| 23:53.26 | W8TVI | "Microsoft keeps re-labeling their plans for controlling the world's personal data," he says. "I don't think any number of new names will make it palatable for Microsoft to be in charge of so much information." |
| 23:53.45 | _Psycho | damn bugged my image :) the time thing keep popping up and like the TS react very weird |
| 23:58.35 | _Psycho | i think i have a lots of bugged symlink or something |