| 00:01.16 | pb_ | "ironically, I was installing a rootkit at the time" |
| 00:01.27 | lpotter | :) |
| 00:01.42 | pb_ | I guess libssl-dev doesn't really fall into that category. |
| 00:02.44 | lpotter | sure it does |
| 00:18.23 | pb_ | long dinner |
| 00:20.48 | mickeyl | yeah |
| 00:21.01 | mickeyl | dinner with added tv |
| 00:21.07 | mickeyl | (afterwards of course) |
| 00:21.08 | mickeyl | :) |
| 00:21.08 | W8TVI | hey mickeyl |
| 00:21.11 | mickeyl | hiho |
| 00:21.19 | mickeyl | oz 3.3.5 rc1 is online |
| 00:21.26 | W8TVI | cool |
| 00:21.32 | mickeyl | only for collie (for now) |
| 00:21.45 | mickeyl | later for the rest |
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| 00:22.27 | mickeyl | brb |
| 00:22.36 | Pendalar | whereeee |
| 00:22.41 | kergoth | hmmmm |
| 00:22.46 | kergoth | mickey|brb: nice work |
| 00:24.21 | Pendalar | ? |
| 00:25.37 | kergoth | getting the rc built |
| 00:26.25 | W8TVI | where is it? |
| 00:26.32 | Pendalar | bah who needs *that* ;-) |
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| 00:34.42 | mickeyl | kergoth: thanks. I prepare the newsletter for next week and then we should get that built for all other zaurii |
| 00:35.53 | darkschneider | kergoth: I want to sorry for the "package work" i did not acomplished but i took so many thigs to do that i was not able to finish them, sorry again, I hope i can be useful in te future |
| 00:36.22 | kergoth | not a problem |
| 00:37.53 | darkschneider | thanks, you one of the famous person that don't regard others in bad way |
| 00:38.21 | W8TVI | famous in his own mind? |
| 00:38.30 | W8TVI | :P |
| 00:38.43 | darkschneider | eheh :P he is famous :) |
| 00:38.45 | kergoth | ~fishslap W8TVI |
| 00:38.48 | | ACTION slaps W8TVI up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 00:38.48 | kergoth | :) |
| 00:38.55 | kergoth | heh, famous? no |
| 00:39.09 | treke|home | doesnt regard others in a bad way? no |
| 00:39.16 | darkschneider | w8tvi that kills! |
| 00:39.18 | kergoth | hehe |
| 00:39.24 | darkschneider | :P |
| 00:39.39 | kergoth | yay, oemake no longer infinately recurses |
| 00:39.51 | mickeyl | good |
| 00:39.54 | W8TVI | kergoth: why not? |
| 00:39.55 | kergoth | and my cron'd build->install->image looks happy |
| 00:39.55 | darkschneider | hurts! |
| 00:39.55 | treke|home | you say that like it's a good thing |
| 00:40.18 | darkschneider | mm eobuild is able to produce working images? |
| 00:40.30 | kergoth | cache hit 1813 |
| 00:40.30 | kergoth | cache miss 14120 |
| 00:40.33 | kergoth | ouch. |
| 00:40.41 | kergoth | cache isnt helping for shit on this box |
| 00:41.03 | kergoth | darkschneider: no. oemake/oebuild build. oeinstall populates the rootfs. oeimage builds an image from a rootfs. |
| 00:41.15 | kergoth | those all together can, yes. for soem values of working. |
| 00:41.25 | kergoth | againt he limitation isnt the tools but our metadata |
| 00:41.34 | darkschneider | ok, now i undestand, i know only portage a bit |
| 00:41.59 | darkschneider | look like it's lot of work :/ |
| 00:42.01 | kergoth | heh, the image creation stuff has nothing to do with portage, portage isnt able to do that |
| 00:42.29 | darkschneider | indeed... that mean 9i don't know nothing of image part... |
| 00:42.48 | darkschneider | anyway again if you need testing on sl-5600 just ask |
| 00:43.16 | mickeyl | heh? |
| 00:43.22 | mickeyl | Applying 1 revisions to new file tmp/base/make-3.80-r0/make-3.80/s.conftest resolveFiles: no lods present |
| 00:43.36 | mickeyl | no lods present? |
| 00:43.36 | kergoth | mickeyl: heh |
| 00:43.39 | mickeyl | what's that supposed to mean? |
| 00:43.48 | kergoth | make's tarball includes a fucking SCCS file |
| 00:43.52 | kergoth | bk thinks it owns it |
| 00:43.58 | mickeyl | ugh. |
| 00:43.58 | mickeyl | what can i do? |
| 00:43.58 | kergoth | so wierd things happen |
| 00:44.10 | kergoth | remove that file |
| 00:44.10 | mickeyl | k |
| 00:44.41 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 00:44.44 | mickeyl | it's not here |
| 00:44.48 | kergoth | hmm |
| 00:44.57 | mickeyl | bk pull wants to create it |
| 00:45.04 | mickeyl | guess i'll reclone |
| 00:45.09 | kergoth | stupid pull, i need to wipe our tree upstream |
| 00:45.14 | kergoth | remove the sccs data in tmp/ |
| 00:45.18 | kergoth | add them all to the gone file |
| 00:45.21 | kergoth | then clone it back up |
| 00:45.29 | kergoth | so the metadata for them is gone |
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| 01:08.40 | *** topic/#openembedded by mickeyl -> OpenEmbedded/OpenZaurus developer lounge | User support in #openzaurus, #openembedded-ipaq, and (if applicable) #opie | Snapshots available at http://treke.net/~bk/ | Python stuff also |
| 01:22.56 | mickeyl | g'night |
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| 01:49.29 | darkschneider | nigth all |
| 01:53.40 | W8TVI | ibot gerrynjr |
| 01:53.42 | | [gerrynjr] a poor zaurus user that has mites living in his zaurus |
| 01:56.13 | W8TVI | ibot no, <reply> [gerrynjr] a zaurus user that whines alot about the mites living in his zaurus |
| 01:56.16 | | W8TVI: You are moron #1 |
| 01:56.23 | W8TVI | :) |
| 01:56.45 | W8TVI | ibot stfu |
| 01:56.46 | | from memory, stfu is Shut the F*** Up! |
| 01:57.04 | W8TVI | ibot die |
| 01:57.05 | | ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless. |
| 01:57.56 | W8TVI | kergoth`bbl: does it do that when a fact is locked? |
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| 02:58.34 | heatsink | W8TVI, have you installed 3.3.5? |
| 02:59.14 | W8TVI | not yet |
| 02:59.15 | W8TVI | ... |
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| 03:28.52 | CIA | repository=03oe user=11kergoth@direwolf.ppp.ti.com |
| 03:28.53 | CIA | 07ChangeSet@1.311 Add {BUILD,TARGET,HOST}_VENDOR variable, make oemake obey OEPKGS, fix an oemake interpackage dependency bug, and fix a bug with the libtool execution when overriding HOST_PREFIX (formerly CROSS). |
| 03:34.34 | gb2 | big commit |
| 03:55.55 | W8TVI | can I use the 2.4.18 kernel from the oz 3.3.5 rc1 with the opie.us oz 3.3.4? |
| 03:57.19 | kergoth`bbl | you wont have any of the modules. |
| 03:57.35 | W8TVI | ah... |
| 03:57.50 | W8TVI | kergoth: I'm not sure what that means... |
| 03:57.55 | kergoth | huh? |
| 03:57.58 | kergoth | you dont know what a kernel module is? |
| 03:58.15 | kergoth | the opie.us initrd.bin has 2.4.6 modules |
| 03:58.17 | W8TVI | what modules wont it have? |
| 03:58.21 | kergoth | ANY |
| 03:58.41 | kergoth | you need the kernel modules built against the kernel you're using. |
| 03:59.54 | W8TVI | hmm |
| 04:00.21 | W8TVI | I just flashed the 3.3.5 rc1 on my 5000d |
| 04:01.34 | W8TVI | first, I resumed it and the digitizer isn't responing. |
| 04:02.04 | W8TVI | so I just tried to supend it, and the light turned off, but the screen is still on |
| 04:02.17 | W8TVI | and it wont do anything at all now |
| 04:03.00 | W8TVI | I put my 802.11b card in and its not turning it on |
| 04:03.28 | Pendalar | W8TVI: same here on the suspend issues |
| 04:03.38 | kergoth | what about suspending via apm -s in console? |
| 04:03.42 | kergoth | any difference in bheavior? |
| 04:03.47 | Pendalar | I lost digitizer+keyboard at once point first try |
| 04:03.55 | W8TVI | hold on. got to hit the reset button |
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| 04:04.07 | Pendalar | no |
| 04:04.21 | Pendalar | apm -s can still shut off light, but doesn't go down |
| 04:04.35 | Pendalar | it's pretty random, sometimes suspend works |
| 04:04.41 | kergoth | so something's up with the apm subsystem |
| 04:04.42 | kergoth | try doing this |
| 04:04.44 | kergoth | killall apmd |
| 04:04.48 | kergoth | apm.orig -s |
| 04:04.54 | W8TVI | it boots alot faster |
| 04:05.28 | W8TVI | wow |
| 04:05.32 | Pendalar | it's frozen now.. one sec |
| 04:05.38 | W8TVI | it shut off REALLY fast |
| 04:05.39 | Pendalar | have to take the batt out |
| 04:05.44 | kergoth | does it resume properly? |
| 04:05.49 | W8TVI | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:06.01 | kergoth | alright, now, /etc/init.d/apm<tab> start |
| 04:06.02 | W8TVI | and I still have mt ts |
| 04:06.05 | Pendalar | W8TVI: do it many times |
| 04:06.15 | kergoth | then apm.orig -s while apmd is running |
| 04:06.20 | kergoth | and see if it resumes properly |
| 04:06.29 | Pendalar | cause I'm getting random results.. |
| 04:06.59 | W8TVI | kergoth it dont |
| 04:07.08 | kergoth | as expected |
| 04:07.09 | W8TVI | it wont turn on |
| 04:07.10 | kergoth | k |
| 04:07.20 | kergoth | there are a _lot_ of variables to consider when debugging a suspend/resume issue |
| 04:07.50 | Pendalar | heh |
| 04:07.51 | W8TVI | I have to filp the switch to get it to come back |
| 04:07.57 | kergoth | yes, thats expected |
| 04:08.08 | Pendalar | the switch doesn't help me =-/ have to take the batt out |
| 04:08.09 | W8TVI | just letting you know :) |
| 04:08.10 | kergoth | thats why we have the apm workaround in place |
| 04:08.57 | W8TVI | kergoth: I love how fast it goes down and comes back up |
| 04:09.16 | kergoth | yep. but its broken with apmd running |
| 04:09.19 | kergoth | and without apmd, we dont have suspend/resume scripts |
| 04:09.26 | kergoth | so no opiealarm, no usbd handling, etc |
| 04:09.26 | Pendalar | /etc/init.d/apmd -> apm.org -s does shut it off but doesn't come back here too |
| 04:09.41 | kergoth | yeah, like i said. thats what i figured |
| 04:09.46 | kergoth | was just a wild shot to see if they fixed it |
| 04:09.50 | kergoth | didnt actually expect them to have |
| 04:09.52 | Pendalar | kergoth: also I'm not getting any date -> hwclock going |
| 04:10.01 | Pendalar | either a bug or my backup batt is gone |
| 04:10.02 | kergoth | hwclock only sets things on shutdown |
| 04:10.07 | kergoth | not suspend/resume |
| 04:10.26 | Pendalar | ah.. so I'm never getting a proper shutdown due to the suspend issues and what not |
| 04:10.27 | W8TVI | kergoth: ok here is what happens for me |
| 04:10.45 | W8TVI | first boot, everything works, it supends |
| 04:10.47 | Pendalar | so if I set it, then shutdown, it'll be fine and hold it? |
| 04:10.56 | W8TVI | I bring it back up the ts doesn't work |
| 04:11.18 | kergoth | Pendalar: you tell me. try it |
| 04:11.27 | W8TVI | when I supend it again, the light goes out, but the screen stays on and hangs. |
| 04:11.27 | Pendalar | =-p hey now |
| 04:11.55 | W8TVI | kergoth: does that help any? |
| 04:12.23 | kergoth | well, not really. any number of things could be happening |
| 04:12.33 | kergoth | i'll wipe the dust of my 5500 and try it tomorrow |
| 04:12.45 | W8TVI | thats the second time I've had it do it that way |
| 04:12.57 | W8TVI | I"m going to try again |
| 04:13.32 | Pendalar | yep, it's always on the second try it doesn't suspend right |
| 04:13.36 | Pendalar | first time is fine after a reboot |
| 04:13.46 | Pendalar | that's constant at least.. |
| 04:13.58 | W8TVI | does the TS work after the first supend -> resume? |
| 04:14.15 | Pendalar | yes |
| 04:14.32 | Pendalar | lemme do it again to see if that's constant or random |
| 04:14.42 | W8TVI | mine is constant |
| 04:14.46 | kergoth | so its not doing something it should be on resume most likely. so its in an inconsistent state when it goes to resume the second time |
| 04:15.00 | Pendalar | makes sense |
| 04:15.08 | Pendalar | hopefully that's helpful =-x |
| 04:16.00 | W8TVI | kergoth: every time, it does it the way I said |
| 04:16.16 | chouimat | hey kergoth |
| 04:16.17 | W8TVI | on my 500d |
| 04:16.18 | Pendalar | yeah I lost TS support after resume this time |
| 04:16.21 | W8TVI | 5000d |
| 04:16.29 | W8TVI | what device? |
| 04:16.33 | Pendalar | 5500 |
| 04:16.38 | W8TVI | k |
| 04:16.46 | Pendalar | the keyboard though is fine after resume |
| 04:16.51 | W8TVI | do its not that its running on the 5000d :) |
| 04:16.59 | W8TVI | I didn't check that |
| 04:17.14 | W8TVI | wait I did... |
| 04:17.19 | W8TVI | pressed the home button |
| 04:18.09 | Pendalar | by keyboard I mean the slide panel keys as well, if that matters |
| 04:18.33 | W8TVI | Pendalar, the keys on top of the slide are part of the keyboard |
| 04:18.52 | Pendalar | I figured, but I'm a hardware idiot.. soo just in case =-) |
| 04:19.03 | W8TVI | like the cancel button is the ESC key |
| 04:19.17 | Pendalar | dammit I'm trying to be helpful *sob* |
| 04:19.25 | W8TVI | well I am too |
| 04:19.26 | W8TVI | :P |
| 04:19.51 | W8TVI | hey kergoth |
| 04:20.00 | W8TVI | anything fun I could test for you on my 5000d? |
| 04:21.15 | kergoth | nothing immediately comes to mind |
| 04:21.35 | kergoth | that kernel is foreign ground. I havent _used_ it, only read the code. |
| 04:21.44 | W8TVI | heh |
| 04:24.42 | W8TVI | I guess I'll go reflash the 2.4.6 kernel and rootfs |
| 04:24.49 | W8TVI | image... whatever |
| 04:25.06 | Pendalar | bah I want to test something else |
| 04:25.19 | Pendalar | otherwise I get out of opie into console and play with gcc |
| 04:25.29 | Pendalar | since my wifi CF is dead |
| 04:25.33 | W8TVI | hey kergoth? back a while there was a light a power app that had a ton of steps for the backlight |
| 04:25.45 | W8TVI | any idea what became of that idea? |
| 04:26.04 | kergoth | well, the driver only provides 5 levels |
| 04:26.16 | kergoth | so thats all the gui shows |
| 04:26.51 | Pendalar | it could switch back and forth between each level REALLY fast and give the illusion of more steps |
| 04:27.00 | W8TVI | it was on the 2.4.18 kernel a while back, and the light changed with each step, and it was alot more than 5 |
| 04:27.09 | W8TVI | I was just wondering |
| 04:27.20 | kergoth | heh. the register we access is a full 8 bits |
| 04:27.22 | Pendalar | like PalmOS's black and white screens were blitted to hell to give "grayscale" |
| 04:27.30 | kergoth | they set those 5 levels at points in that 255 range |
| 04:27.39 | W8TVI | ah |
| 04:27.42 | kergoth | the backlight driver for collie in 2.4.21 just allows the user to set any value in the range |
| 04:27.52 | kergoth | whether they're noticably different along the way i dont recall. |
| 04:27.57 | W8TVI | I want 255 steps! :) |
| 04:27.59 | chouimat | anything new? |
| 04:28.03 | W8TVI | kergoth, they are |
| 04:28.14 | W8TVI | it must have been the 2.4.21 then |
| 04:28.22 | kergoth | k |
| 04:28.31 | kergoth | i dont get why they imposed seemingly arbitrary limitations |
| 04:28.32 | W8TVI | I want that driver :) |
| 04:28.36 | kergoth | i mean, why kill flexibility when you dont have to? |
| 04:28.40 | W8TVI | yeah |
| 04:30.03 | Pendalar | kergoth: *cough*microsoft*cough* |
| 04:30.08 | kergoth | hehe |
| 04:35.30 | W8TVI | kergoth: I'm not sure I understand why we are going backward on the kernel version number. care to explain it to me? |
| 04:35.37 | kergoth | we arent. |
| 04:35.46 | kergoth | 2.4.21 isnt ready. it wont be ready for some time |
| 04:35.51 | kergoth | but we want a release out soon |
| 04:35.56 | kergoth | so we're using the sharp tree thats known working |
| 04:36.01 | kergoth | just to get something out the door |
| 04:36.07 | kergoth | we'll move to 2.4.21 as soon as possible |
| 04:36.29 | W8TVI | the 2.4.6 is the sharp kernel? |
| 04:36.39 | kergoth | .. |
| 04:36.46 | kergoth | 3.3.5 has 2.4.18. |
| 04:36.47 | chouimat | night |
| 04:36.53 | Pendalar | oh so that's marketting =-x |
| 04:36.54 | kergoth | sharp's 2.4.18 tree |
| 04:37.31 | treke|home | no, that's 2.4.6 sucks bad enough that we might as well take 2.4.18 |
| 04:38.01 | treke|home | Is mickey using any of the patches for apm and sound? |
| 04:38.05 | W8TVI | kergoth: http://www.opie.us/opie/devZone.php/initrds/OZ-Opie-1.02/ |
| 04:38.14 | W8TVI | what are they using there? |
| 04:38.27 | kergoth | thats ljp's 3.3.4 on 2.4.6 afaik. |
| 04:39.06 | W8TVI | the opie info says its the 2.4.6 kernel.... I'm confused... what they heck is going on? |
| 04:39.23 | W8TVI | I know his isn't offical |
| 04:39.31 | kergoth | whats there to understand? |
| 04:39.39 | kergoth | mickey is working on the next official release with 2.4.18 |
| 04:39.44 | kergoth | ljp did an unofficial image with 2.4.6 |
| 04:41.18 | mithro | why are you bothering with 2.4.21? why not goto straight 2.6.x? |
| 04:41.35 | kergoth | I ported it to 2.5.x before moving to 2.4.21. |
| 04:41.54 | kergoth | and the bits in 2.4.21 that arent in 2.5.x are easily moved forward |
| 04:41.59 | kergoth | it wont take long to move us up to 2.6. |
| 04:43.03 | W8TVI | ibot google linux kernel basics |
| 04:44.53 | W8TVI | kergoth, I think my brain has been stuck in the a-z sort |
| 04:45.19 | W8TVI | some how I was thinking that 2.4.6 is higher than 2.4.18 or .21 |
| 04:45.27 | kergoth | heh |
| 04:45.31 | kergoth | ~whaleslap W8TVI |
| 04:45.34 | | ACTION slaps W8TVI upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh |
| 04:45.44 | treke|home | ~momsex W8TVI |
| 04:45.47 | | ACTION has sex with W8TVI's mom |
| 04:45.48 | W8TVI | I need to start getting more sleep |
| 04:46.24 | W8TVI | :) |
| 04:47.51 | W8TVI | I'd still like to know what programer thinks that it counts 1, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 2, 20, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 |
| 04:48.15 | W8TVI | or some other stupid version of that |
| 04:49.38 | W8TVI | kergoth: are you doing stuff like on http://www.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de/BS/Lehre/BS-I-Material/linux-kernel-basics.html all day? |
| 04:50.21 | W8TVI | #define CSIGNAL 0x000000ff /* signal mask to be sent at exit */ |
| 04:50.21 | W8TVI | #define CLONE_VM 0x00000100 /* set if VM shared between processes */ |
| 04:50.21 | W8TVI | #define CLONE_FS 0x00000200 /* set if fs info shared between processes */ |
| 04:50.40 | W8TVI | and crap like that? |
| 04:50.49 | Pendalar | I'd grab a shotgun and end the misery |
| 04:51.02 | W8TVI | makes learning C++ look easy |
| 04:51.07 | Pendalar | heh |
| 04:51.15 | kergoth | heh, kernel development is fun |
| 04:51.37 | W8TVI | the scripting language in mirc was hard enough to learn |
| 04:51.45 | kergoth | damn irc, keeps distracting me from doing somethign productive |
| 04:51.51 | W8TVI | heh |
| 04:52.46 | W8TVI | kergoth: if it wasn't for IRC, oz would be version 9 by now and work perfictly but you would be the only one using it :) |
| 04:55.48 | Pendalar | like gcc 3.3.2 toolchains? |
| 04:55.51 | Pendalar | =-x |
| 04:56.02 | kergoth | heh, yeh |
| 04:56.47 | Pendalar | if it wasn't for IRC, OZ would have pushed WindowsCE and Palmsource off the map, in which case Microsoft would have bought out OZ/OE and SCO would be suing MS for the rights |
| 04:57.03 | Pendalar | and we'd be right back where we started =-/ |
| 04:57.10 | Pendalar | but stable.. |
| 04:58.08 | W8TVI | lol |
| 04:58.26 | W8TVI | then SCO would die twice as fast |
| 04:59.31 | Pendalar | whatever it takes to kill the bastards |
| 04:59.42 | Pendalar | someone there must have a awesome sense of humor |
| 04:59.53 | W8TVI | lol |
| 05:00.06 | W8TVI | can he REALLY be that stupid? |
| 05:00.07 | Pendalar | probably that eddie izzard guy |
| 05:00.13 | Pendalar | issard? something |
| 05:00.23 | Pendalar | the cross dressing english guy who is funny as hell |
| 05:00.50 | Pendalar | 'you say "erb", we say "herb".. because there's a fucking H in it.' |
| 05:01.30 | Pendalar | 'you say "fruit" and I'm with you on that, we spell it frought.. which is just cheating at scrabble' |
| 05:01.43 | Pendalar | cept having a guy in a dress say it makes it more funny |
| 05:01.45 | Pendalar | =-e |
| 05:22.37 | kergoth | k, think the glibc toolchain build should work now |
| 05:23.25 | Pendalar | will 3.3.2 be hard to make when you get around to it? |
| 05:23.33 | kergoth | .. |
| 05:23.37 | kergoth | 3.3.2 is in the oe repos right now |
| 05:23.48 | kergoth | testing a glibc2.3.2/gcc3.3.2 chain build as we speak |
| 05:23.50 | Pendalar | er |
| 05:24.13 | Pendalar | 3.3.2 or 3.3.2-1 ? |
| 05:24.20 | Pendalar | not that it really matters |
| 05:24.23 | kergoth | 3.3.2. |
| 05:24.54 | Pendalar | so it might be finalized this weekend? |
| 05:25.12 | kergoth | yeah, should have it working today or tomorrow |
| 05:25.27 | Pendalar | awesome |
| 05:25.51 | Pendalar | I just put zgcc2 on my SD.. if this works well, it's been a good weekend *grin* |
| 05:25.55 | Pendalar | like christmas |
| 05:27.21 | kergoth | i should buuild a cygwin chain too while i'm at it |
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| 05:32.47 | Pendalar | you and your cygwin |
| 05:32.53 | Pendalar | no wonder you don't get as much done as you want |
| 05:33.00 | Pendalar | =-) someone needs to donate you a box |
| 05:33.02 | kergoth | heh, i never use it except when i'm at home |
| 05:33.09 | kergoth | my laptop is the primary dev machine |
| 05:33.15 | kergoth | which is here also |
| 05:33.17 | Pendalar | what do you have on it? |
| 05:33.25 | kergoth | laptop? its works, rh73 |
| 05:33.29 | kergoth | s/works/work's/ |
| 05:34.54 | Pendalar | I use RH at home simply for a coding shell , other boxes in .nl and CA I use deb or slack depending on what it's for |
| 05:35.20 | Pendalar | I dislike RH's principles but for my home machine I want zero maintaince |
| 05:35.59 | kergoth | i use debian for the same reason |
| 05:35.59 | kergoth | :) |
| 05:36.14 | Pendalar | I just don't trust RH to server much |
| 05:36.24 | Pendalar | esp when trusting RHN for updates |
| 05:36.29 | kergoth | heh, agreed |
| 05:36.57 | Pendalar | but I doubt I'll move to fedora honestly.. I think it's time to give gentoo and knopplix and some of the other new ones another try |
| 05:37.12 | Pendalar | if not, back to debian I guess |
| 05:37.33 | edrex | is there a snapshot of OZ that's usable? |
| 05:38.08 | Pendalar | heh |
| 05:38.19 | Pendalar | that's so nice to say |
| 05:38.50 | Pendalar | I thought you wrote 'unstable' for a minute and I found that semi-humorous.. but usable.. that's just mean |
| 05:39.04 | Pendalar | I hope kergoth beats you with a freakishly large whale |
| 05:39.08 | Pendalar | twice, really fast |
| 05:40.01 | edrex | Pendalar: knoppix is woody with a bunch of unofficial package sources. if you dump it to your hard-drive and want to move to testing or unstable, it'll be a big headache |
| 05:40.31 | edrex | and lots of the unofficial sources have weird circular dependancies |
| 05:41.11 | Pendalar | I'll keep that in mind |
| 05:41.21 | Pendalar | I've only tried it once, early on.. wasn't impressed |
| 05:42.25 | edrex | it's fabulous as a portable/demo thing tho. it's so much easier to be a zealot when your potential initiates can play with kde :) |
| 05:42.50 | Pendalar | gentoo has gotten a lot of support recently, I may try it again first |
| 05:44.12 | Pendalar | but I know I'll end up with debian |
| 05:44.18 | Pendalar | first love's are hard to ignore =-) |
| 05:44.23 | edrex | my friend toe just installed it on his workstation. i heckled him cuz i thought installing from source was stoopid, but it's actually pretty cool. |
| 05:44.40 | Pendalar | night guys |
| 05:45.52 | edrex | so is there a usable snapshot of OZ, or should I use 3.2 and the opie feeds? |
| 05:46.00 | kergoth | um? |
| 05:46.24 | kergoth | 1) "snapshot" means nothing |
| 05:46.28 | kergoth | 2) what device? |
| 05:46.43 | edrex | zaurus 5500 |
| 05:47.09 | edrex | i meant from the site listed in the topic line |
| 05:47.17 | kergoth | .. |
| 05:47.23 | kergoth | those are snapshots of the BUILD SYSTEM |
| 05:47.28 | kergoth | this is the development channel |
| 05:47.31 | edrex | haha, oh |
| 05:47.44 | kergoth | heh |
| 05:49.20 | kergoth | hmm |
| 05:49.35 | kergoth | ah, forgot the gcc initial build for uclibc doesnt do the inhibit glibc hack |
| 05:52.25 | MSpin | kergoth: gcc 3.3 worked |
| 05:52.34 | kergoth | ah, good |
| 05:52.42 | kergoth | odd, but good |
| 05:52.46 | MSpin | yeah I know |
| 05:52.50 | MSpin | very very odd |
| 05:53.10 | MSpin | the glibc cvs patch seems to be related |
| 05:53.20 | MSpin | so maybe it's fixed in the latest glibc CVS? |
| 05:53.30 | MSpin | (I don't know how old that patch is) |
| 05:54.06 | MSpin | also, what's the prefered way to build a pull install...list of packages, etc. ? |
| 05:54.16 | kergoth | ? |
| 05:55.29 | MSpin | saw I wanted to build a rom |
| 05:55.31 | MSpin | say |
| 05:56.01 | MSpin | should I just keep a list of packages and use xargs to run oemake on each? |
| 05:57.33 | kergoth | oemake obeys OEPKGS |
| 05:57.40 | kergoth | echo OEPKGS=glibc apache >> conf/local.conf |
| 05:57.45 | kergoth | oemake -a (abort on failure) |
| 05:58.03 | kergoth | echo INST_OEPKGS=glibc >> conf/local.conf |
| 05:58.04 | MSpin | ahh ok |
| 05:58.06 | kergoth | oeinstall && oeimage |
| 05:58.09 | kergoth | etc |
| 05:58.21 | kergoth | right now the rootfs populator only handles tarballs, not ipks |
| 05:58.23 | kergoth | need to update it |
| 05:58.34 | MSpin | yeah, that's fine |
| 05:58.54 | MSpin | it'll be readonly anyway |
| 06:02.01 | W8TVI | kergoth, woo hoo... 8mb of files to upload to my website... 17 jpgs at 400 to 500k eash |
| 06:11.56 | kergoth | MSpin: i'll update the docs shortly to include more extensive info on oemake and the use of OE for root filesystem population adn image creation |
| 06:12.02 | kergoth | since it doesnt mention that at all atm |
| 06:24.50 | kergoth | hmm |
| 06:25.02 | kergoth | anyone know if theres a gcc cmdline opt to print the system include search path? |
| 06:27.08 | kergoth | nm |
| 06:28.03 | W8TVI | lol |
| 06:28.04 | W8TVI | Remember: |
| 06:28.04 | W8TVI | A CRAY is the only computer that runs an endless loop |
| 06:28.05 | W8TVI | in just 4 hours... |
| 06:40.53 | W8TVI | interesting |
| 06:41.04 | kergoth | buildroot feels so noisy after using OE for a while |
| 06:41.34 | kergoth | MSpin: we apply dwarf2 buildfixes for arm and m68k... |
| 06:41.41 | kergoth | MSpin: guess we dont apply it for anything else |
| 06:41.41 | kergoth | heh |
| 06:41.46 | W8TVI | kergoth, I have an intel pro/10 pci networking card that has an AUI, BNC, and RJ45 jack on it that uses the same linux driver as the adapter inte hsg20 |
| 06:43.04 | W8TVI | pro/10+ |
| 06:44.54 | W8TVI | kergoth, it has a lifetime warranty! |
| 06:44.58 | W8TVI | lol |
| 06:46.29 | W8TVI | hmm |
| 06:46.43 | W8TVI | I wonder if the card is dead and if they would give me an RMA on it... |
| 06:46.58 | W8TVI | the replacement card is a 10/100/1000 card |
| 06:47.02 | W8TVI | !!! |
| 06:49.13 | W8TVI | dang |
| 06:49.15 | W8TVI | From North America: |
| 06:49.15 | W8TVI | To process this return, you must provide original owner PROOF OF PURCHASE for the product you wish to return. |
| 06:54.44 | kergoth | hmm |
| 06:55.03 | kergoth | somethings wrong with the oe glibc toolchain build, but not sure what |
| 07:03.04 | kergoth | ah there we go |
| 07:03.06 | kergoth | getting there |
| 07:03.11 | W8TVI | lol |
| 07:03.14 | W8TVI | look at #wireless |
| 07:11.14 | W8TVI | ibot, botmail timriker please give w8tvi, kergoth, and treke the T flag for #magnia so we can update the topic :) |
| 07:11.33 | W8TVI | that is if ibot will let me send botmail :) |
| 07:11.39 | W8TVI | and if I did it right |
| 07:11.48 | kergoth | ibot messages you back saying its sent |
| 07:11.49 | | kergoth: are you using Windows? |
| 07:11.49 | kergoth | if it worked |
| 07:11.53 | W8TVI | oh |
| 07:11.55 | kergoth | its 'botmail for <nick>' |
| 07:11.59 | W8TVI | oh |
| 07:12.00 | W8TVI | lol |
| 07:12.08 | W8TVI | ibot, botmail for timriker please give w8tvi, kergoth, and treke the T flag for #magnia so we can update the topic :) |
| 07:12.19 | W8TVI | cool <ibot> OK, w8tvi, I'll let timriker know. |
| 07:13.00 | kergoth | W8TVI: tim did the chanserv registration eh? |
| 07:13.26 | W8TVI | huh? |
| 07:13.38 | kergoth | heh |
| 07:13.40 | W8TVI | oh.. no |
| 07:13.46 | W8TVI | it my channel |
| 07:13.57 | W8TVI | but I want jbot to maintain the topic |
| 07:14.42 | W8TVI | when he first put jbot there it let me do add topic |
| 07:14.55 | W8TVI | as you can see |
| 07:15.16 | kergoth | ahh k |
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| 07:19.06 | CIA | repository=03packages user=11kergoth@direwolf.ppp.ti.com |
| 07:19.07 | CIA | 07ChangeSet@1.328 Update some upstream URIs. |
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| 07:44.59 | kergoth | hmmm... almost there |
| 07:45.04 | kergoth | hey TheMasterMind1 |
| 08:01.22 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: sup |
| 08:01.23 | TheMasterMind1 | whats new |
| 08:01.41 | kergoth | nada, fixing the OE glibc toolchain builds |
| 08:02.00 | TheMasterMind1 | k |
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| 08:46.21 | TimRiker | ~chattr W8TVI +T |
| 08:46.21 | | user does not exist. |
| 08:46.34 | TimRiker | ~chattr treke +T |
| 08:46.34 | | user does not exist. |
| 08:46.41 | TimRiker | ~chattr kergoth +T |
| 08:46.41 | | user does not exist. |
| 08:48.44 | TimRiker | ~+message for W8TVI: seems none of you are registered, and I forgot how to add you. ;-/ |
| 08:48.49 | TimRiker | heh |
| 08:51.03 | TimRiker | ~help adduser |
| 08:51.08 | TimRiker | ~+help adduser |
| 08:51.19 | TimRiker | ~+adduser kergoth |
| 08:56.55 | W8TVI | ibot |
| 08:58.40 | W8TVI | night TimRiker |
| 09:00.24 | TimRiker | ~adduser W8TVI |
| 09:00.32 | TimRiker | hmm |
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| 09:03.06 | heatsink | kergoth: hi |
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| 16:53.14 | chouimat | hi |
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| 17:53.49 | chouimat | YAY! my firmware uploader for kdevelop3 works!!!!!!!!! |
| 18:01.22 | TheMasterMind1 | chouimat: whats it do |
| 18:02.09 | pb_ | uploads firmware, one imagines |
| 18:02.24 | pb_ | try to pay attention there. |
| 18:02.39 | chouimat | TheMasterMind1: you will be able to use kdevelop3 to do embbedded software developement and if the device support a mean to use tftp or ssh or anything else (unlike the zaurus) to update it firmware you will be able to do it by clicking a button |
| 18:05.02 | chouimat | TheMasterMind1: this was fun to do :) |
| 18:09.28 | chouimat | TheMasterMind1: http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,61339,00.html |
| 18:17.30 | chouimat | TheMasterMind1: and I'm currently trying to add support for the linksys wrt54g |
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| 19:15.20 | kergoth | Pendalar: got a chain built. testing it now |
| 19:15.43 | treke|home | mornin kergoth |
| 19:16.17 | kergoth | hey |
| 19:22.20 | W8TVI | morning kergoth |
| 20:20.05 | kergoth | hmm |
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| 20:42.27 | lpotter | *sigh* |
| 20:42.50 | chouimat | hey lpotter |
| 20:43.01 | lpotter | hey |
| 20:43.21 | lpotter | mp3.com is going to destroy all those mp3's |
| 20:43.39 | chouimat | lpotter: http://www.hackles.org/cgi-bin/archives.pl?request=2 |
| 20:44.07 | lpotter | thats kergoth |
| 20:44.36 | chouimat | lpotter: fuck the riaa is just becoming stupid ... mp3 enabled me to discover new bands ... |
| 20:44.46 | *** topic/#openembedded by chouimat -> OpenEmbedded/OpenZaurus developer lounge | User support in #openzaurus, #openembedded-ipaq, and (if applicable) #opie | Snapshots available at http://treke.net/~bk/ | Python stuff also| http://www.hackles.org/cgi-bin/archives.pl?request=2 |
| 20:44.49 | lpotter | ya |
| 20:45.43 | chouimat | lpotter: but the riaa seems to don't want us to listen other music than their approved stuff ... celine, brittney and other crap like that |
| 20:46.56 | lpotter | yup |
| 20:48.49 | chouimat | lpotter: i think the new move from the riaa will be to release the Barbara Streisant stuff nad marketing it like she was a sex-symbole ... they did it for Celine |
| 20:52.48 | CosmicPenguin | Who wrote that comic strip? |
| 20:52.50 | CosmicPenguin | What a dick! |
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| 21:59.28 | treke|home | woot |
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| 22:03.06 | lpotter | schmoot |
| 22:23.04 | W8TVI | lol |
| 22:23.05 | W8TVI | Blootbot - IRC bot written in perl, based on infobot. Features DBM [Berkeley], MySQL and soon-to-be PgSQL support and tons of weird, funky, useless features to make it bloated: A blootbot. |
| 22:23.31 | W8TVI | ~blootbot |
| 22:23.32 | | [blootbot] is a SF project. Patches welcome, submit on SF or mailto:Tim@Rikers.org, or http://blootbot.sourceforge.net/ |
| 22:41.52 | heatsink | chouimat: you there? |
| 22:42.01 | chouimat | yes |
| 22:42.45 | CIA | repository=03buildroot user=11mickeyl@gandalf.tm.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de |
| 22:42.45 | CIA | 07ChangeSet@1.1390 2.4.18-embedix doesn't contain the buzzer patch. Who volunteers to bring it forward? |
| 22:42.49 | heatsink | you've done buildroot before? |
| 22:42.58 | chouimat | a long time ago |
| 22:43.02 | kergoth | mickeyl: bringing it forward is foolish. |
| 22:43.03 | heatsink | k |
| 22:43.09 | kergoth | mickeyl: its already in 2.4.21. just pull it back. |
| 22:43.15 | mickeyl | k |
| 22:43.18 | mickeyl | (but not me) |
| 22:43.21 | kergoth | heheh |
| 22:43.21 | mickeyl | :D |
| 22:43.47 | chouimat | hey kergoth mickeyl |
| 22:45.09 | chouimat | kergoth: I'm currently playing with the wrt54g |
| 22:45.16 | mickeyl | kergoth: btw., i could reproduce two resume-hanging problems. one was caused by usbd-common - this doesn't wants to play with 2.4.18 - the other hang is when I resume while the battery is (nearly) empty. no idea what causes that. |
| 22:45.19 | mickeyl | bbl |
| 22:46.30 | heatsink | kergoth: libxine keeps bombing out on the file video_out_fb.lo any idea? |
| 22:46.39 | chouimat | kergoth: seen the last url on the topic line? |
| 22:47.59 | heatsink | ahahahaha |
| 22:54.00 | lpotter | where's 2.4.21? |
| 22:56.17 | kergoth | lpotter: linux-cl.bkbits.net |
| 22:56.32 | kergoth | heatsink: if you want help with a build, give EXACT errors. |
| 22:56.50 | lpotter | hmm.. heh.. and the sharp patch is included? |
| 22:56.58 | kergoth | "the sharp patch"? |
| 22:57.10 | kergoth | most of the drivers in collie-2.4 were rewritten. |
| 22:57.17 | lpotter | buzzer patch |
| 22:57.28 | kergoth | its a tree. there are no patches. |
| 22:57.34 | kergoth | the audio drivers there have the buzzer as a dsp, yes. |
| 22:57.38 | kergoth | it was done there first |
| 22:57.42 | kergoth | and then backported to 2.4.6. |
| 22:57.42 | lpotter | k |
| 22:57.52 | kergoth | brb, food |
| 23:00.18 | heatsink | kergoth: pasted in oz |
| 23:00.46 | kergoth | heatsink: do NOT flood again, or you wont be allowed back. |
| 23:00.49 | heatsink | where am I suppose to paste it then? |
| 23:00.55 | kergoth | #flood |
| 23:00.57 | kergoth | it exists for a fucking reason. |
| 23:02.38 | heatsink | damn |
| 23:04.26 | heatsink | putting it in #flood now then |
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| 23:22.22 | W8TVI | Sugar: make me a screwdriver |
| 23:23.39 | treke|home | impressive |
| 23:24.08 | W8TVI | then later I will have a blackberry beer |
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