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| 00:08.56 | W8TVI | can some one please remind me how to mount a CF card under linux? |
| 00:14.17 | W8TVI | cool |
| 00:14.54 | W8TVI | with a cf adapter pc card I got it mounted on my sg20 |
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| 00:22.40 | W8TVI | hey treke |
| 00:27.34 | ljp_laptop | hmm |
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| 00:39.59 | W8TVI | <Zxcvb_> when will a new OZ/openembedded be released? |
| 00:39.59 | W8TVI | <W8TVI> Zxcvb_ when its released |
| 00:40.17 | ljp_laptop | for what device? |
| 00:41.04 | CosmicPenguin | all of them |
| 00:41.08 | CosmicPenguin | :) |
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| 00:42.36 | ljp_laptop | I put up a new opie 1.02 feed for z sl5000d and 5500 |
| 00:43.21 | ljp_laptop | if you want that one |
| 00:43.30 | ljp_laptop | and initrd |
| 00:45.27 | W8TVI | I already upgraded |
| 00:47.02 | ljp_laptop | oe cant make kernels yet |
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| 00:59.02 | CosmicPenguin | gah, xfree86 configuring is like pulling teath |
| 00:59.06 | CosmicPenguin | teeth even |
| 00:59.39 | treke|home | hehe |
| 00:59.48 | treke|home | better than 3.x :p |
| 01:08.07 | W8TVI | hey treke |
| 01:08.37 | treke|home | yo W8TVI |
| 01:08.56 | W8TVI | I desided to see if my sg20 liked my cf card... |
| 01:09.07 | treke|home | si |
| 01:09.24 | W8TVI | so I got out the adapter and pluged it in and, not I got my CF card mounted on it |
| 01:09.26 | W8TVI | :) |
| 01:09.56 | W8TVI | now I can mess with the files and stuff on there with the sg20 |
| 01:09.58 | treke|home | hehe |
| 01:10.23 | W8TVI | its nice to know that toshiba didn't mess too much with the slot |
| 01:10.37 | treke|home | didnt thinkt hey would |
| 01:10.54 | treke|home | now to find a linux compatible usb card :p |
| 01:10.57 | W8TVI | :) |
| 01:11.15 | W8TVI | don't know why my usb 2.0 card doesn't want to work on it... |
| 01:11.32 | W8TVI | it has the usb stuff installed on it |
| 01:11.56 | W8TVI | [root@myserver cf]# lsusb |
| 01:11.56 | W8TVI | cannot open /proc/bus/usb, No such file or directory (2) |
| 01:12.08 | treke|home | so mount /proc/bus/usb :) |
| 01:12.20 | W8TVI | "mount"? |
| 01:12.35 | treke|home | yes. mount |
| 01:14.11 | treke|home | mount -t usbfs none /proc/bus/usb mount point /proc/bus/usb |
| 01:14.43 | W8TVI | cs: cb_alloc(bus 2): vendor 0x10b9, device 0x5237 |
| 01:14.44 | W8TVI | PCI: Enabling device 02:00.0 (0000 -> 0002) |
| 01:15.28 | W8TVI | [root@myserver /]# mount -t usbfs none /proc/bus/usb mount point /proc/bus/usb |
| 01:15.28 | W8TVI | Usage: mount -V : print version |
| 01:15.28 | W8TVI | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:15.28 | W8TVI | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:16.02 | treke|home | try mount -t usbfs none /proc/bus/usb /proc/bus/usb |
| 01:16.27 | W8TVI | same thing |
| 01:18.26 | W8TVI | treke: I dont think its loading any mods for the USB stuff |
| 01:18.56 | W8TVI | Socket 0: |
| 01:18.57 | W8TVI | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:20.43 | W8TVI | hmmm |
| 01:20.53 | W8TVI | mine is an "Acer Labs Inc." card |
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| 01:30.54 | W8TVI | treke: on my rh9 desktop I have a ESB 2.0 PCI card installed and it seems to work with it |
| 01:30.56 | W8TVI | 02:0a.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 51) |
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| 01:48.54 | mmelbert|laptop | talkative group tonight |
| 01:49.20 | chouimat | Beh beh beh beh |
| 01:50.12 | ljp_laptop | busy |
| 01:50.30 | chouimat | hey mr aussie-trool :) |
| 01:50.36 | chouimat | s/trool/troll |
| 01:52.00 | ljp_laptop | :) |
| 01:53.40 | Pendalar | have you guys looked over the c860 specs? |
| 01:55.57 | W8TVI | c860? |
| 01:56.14 | chouimat | c860?? |
| 01:56.18 | Pendalar | I'll take that as a no.. |
| 01:56.26 | Pendalar | you guys are supposed to be telling *me* stuff |
| 01:56.37 | CosmicPenguin | Not if you just come in here and make up model numbers |
| 01:56.37 | Pendalar | www.zaurususergroup.com |
| 01:56.48 | Pendalar | =-P ok you can kiss my shiny metal ass |
| 01:57.08 | chouimat | Pendalar: sorry busy trying to finish something for tomorrow |
| 01:57.19 | Pendalar | I don't make up shit, I either know what I'm talking about.. or am just stupid and think I know what I'm talking about |
| 01:57.30 | ljp_laptop | http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS3852086383.html |
| 01:57.58 | ljp_laptop | http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS3890772815.html |
| 01:58.10 | ljp_laptop | that is one we will see in the US |
| 01:58.49 | CosmicPenguin | Built-in mic and speaker positioned for handset use |
| 01:58.54 | CosmicPenguin | Interesting concept |
| 01:58.59 | chouimat | ljp_laptop: I prefer the sl-6000 |
| 01:59.06 | Pendalar | it's not that much better than the c760 though |
| 01:59.14 | Pendalar | I mean so little additions that it's near pointless |
| 01:59.46 | chouimat | Pendalar: go get a Tungsten E or T3 then |
| 01:59.57 | Pendalar | ew =-x |
| 02:00.05 | Pendalar | I just mean c860 vs c760 |
| 02:00.31 | ljp_laptop | that is the sl6000 |
| 02:02.17 | Pendalar | it doesn't say usb host |
| 02:02.21 | Pendalar | that I would go for |
| 02:03.27 | ljp_laptop | vercel had a usb host |
| 02:03.44 | Pendalar | vercel? |
| 02:04.25 | ljp_laptop | vaporware |
| 02:04.33 | Pendalar | ah |
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| 02:10.53 | chouimat | ok it's seems that matrix 3 is worse than the second |
| 02:11.54 | CosmicPenguin | So.... is it possible to build firebird and thunderbird with the same source tree? |
| 02:11.56 | mmelbert|laptop | dont tell me that....I am going to see it this weekend and I have reloaded playing right now |
| 02:12.21 | chouimat | mmelbert|laptop: I didn't see my brother is ranting on MSN |
| 02:13.16 | mmelbert|laptop | ah |
| 02:13.35 | mmelbert|laptop | is he a geek??? |
| 02:13.59 | cyn | chouimat: he's wrong |
| 02:14.06 | chouimat | mmelbert|laptop: no he's a cameraman |
| 02:14.17 | cyn | chouimat: m3 was better than m2, although neither touches m1 |
| 02:14.19 | mmelbert|laptop | hahaha |
| 02:15.04 | chouimat | cyn: don't know I still have to see the second but I won't |
| 02:15.26 | mmelbert|laptop | I dont know why everyone is saying m2 is even that bad....I think that is has a great story and the architect scene is great |
| 02:15.48 | cyn | initially m2 seems bad but it has rewatchability which is a big bonus imo |
| 02:16.01 | cyn | m2 is bad insofar as very little happens |
| 02:16.23 | cyn | half the movie is them running away with the keymaker - which was cool imo because it's this like 30 minute long action sequence |
| 02:16.24 | mmelbert|laptop | more happens then you think |
| 02:16.38 | cyn | I own it on dvd |
| 02:16.39 | mmelbert|laptop | I will agree with that |
| 02:16.50 | cyn | no more happens than I think :P |
| 02:16.51 | mmelbert|laptop | so do I ... it is playing right now |
| 02:17.21 | mmelbert|laptop | I am at the scene with the oracle |
| 02:19.30 | cyn | chouimat: I think you mean get up late tomorrow and get to bed late tonight |
| 02:20.07 | chouimat | cyn: no I have to get a bus at noon tomorrow ... and I'm too tired to finish what I have to finish before taking it |
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| 02:25.11 | W8TVI | bleh! its snowing here |
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| 02:41.27 | chouimat | W8TVI: where? |
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| 02:44.46 | chouimat | night |
| 02:45.43 | mmelbert|laptop | I finally got to read todays SCO installment on /. funny as hell. |
| 02:46.32 | mmelbert|laptop | quite entertaining |
| 02:47.03 | mmelbert|laptop | I would like to RMS on the stand....I dont think anyones lawers could know what to expect coming from him. |
| 02:47.56 | chouimat | your honor can you ask the witness to take a shower before answering my questions |
| 02:48.35 | mewyn | mmelbert: keep in mind that rms isn't dumb and he gets good coaching from his lawyer |
| 02:48.49 | chouimat | opk I'm off |
| 02:49.52 | mmelbert|laptop | mewyn: I know RMS isnt dumb....he would make the lawyers look like the fools |
| 02:50.27 | CosmicPenguin | RMS does this all the time |
| 02:50.43 | mewyn | THAT would be satisfying |
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| 07:24.54 | W8TVI | I wonder if this ambicome cf-gps is compatable with linuxhttp://www.ambicom.com/products/gps/gps-cf.html |
| 07:34.18 | W8TVI | cool |
| 07:34.28 | W8TVI | it works with it.. I want one |
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| 08:53.33 | W8TVI | dang it... now I need a bluetooth card |
| 08:53.41 | W8TVI | http://www.bluejackq.com/ |
| 08:56.23 | mithro | anyone know much about hardware in arm like devices :) |
| 08:58.58 | W8TVI | like what? |
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| 09:04.49 | mithro | well - like how you would get kernel console output on a usb serial port :) |
| 09:08.08 | mithro | what i'm really after is a mentor for my adventuors into the land of getting linux working on a pocket pc device :) |
| 09:08.50 | W8TVI | mithro: try #handhelds.com |
| 09:08.59 | W8TVI | er |
| 09:09.29 | W8TVI | that should be #handhelds.org |
| 09:29.52 | Twiun | mornin' |
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| 09:40.07 | Twiun | hiya andersee |
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| 09:40.15 | andersee | Twiun: howdy |
| 09:40.59 | lpotter | mithro: you want jamie and pb_ and probably someone else at #handhelds.org channel. |
| 09:41.48 | mithro | lpotter: the guy doing the original port to my hardware just turned up |
| 09:41.56 | lpotter | ahh |
| 09:45.20 | lpotter | jamie is hh.org kernel guy, and I think pb does that also |
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| 10:26.08 | Twiun | hiya mickeyl |
| 10:30.00 | mickeyl | hi Twiun |
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| 11:57.37 | chouimat | morning |
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| 15:28.34 | kergoth | morning |
| 15:29.37 | Twiun | howdy |
| 15:29.55 | Twiun | soo... was amrein convinced? |
| 15:30.20 | kergoth | i dunno, i gave up on him at some point |
| 15:30.22 | kergoth | heh |
| 15:32.47 | andersee | kergoth: morning |
| 15:36.39 | kergoth | andersee: isnt it a bit early for you? :) |
| 15:37.00 | kergoth | brb, caffeine |
| 15:37.05 | gb2 | so |
| 15:37.16 | gb2 | what does the C860 have that the C760 doesn't? |
| 15:37.39 | andersee | kergoth: yes |
| 15:38.09 | andersee | gb2: it seems to lack builtin 802.11b |
| 15:38.29 | gb2 | the specs look the same as the c760 from what i'm reading |
| 15:40.52 | gb2 | 400MHz pxa255 128MB flash, 64MB ram, 640x480 lcd, usb device, irda, headphone, SD, CF2, 1700mAh battery |
| 15:40.57 | gb2 | sounds the same as the c760 |
| 15:41.14 | gb2 | has more software though |
| 15:41.58 | kergoth | gb2: i was wondering that myself last night, the specs look identical |
| 15:42.06 | kergoth | who cares about the software, its updatable.. i dont get it |
| 15:46.28 | andersee | i.e. change nothing but the model number and put "New and Improved!" on the box |
| 15:46.47 | kergoth | yep |
| 15:47.14 | andersee | As long as the C750 and C760 become cheaper as a result, I'm all for it |
| 15:47.37 | gb2 | heh |
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| 16:10.53 | treke|home | hehe |
| 16:11.12 | treke|home | andersee: I think the plan was to replace the 760 |
| 16:11.52 | treke|home | the real question is... what butt ass ugly color is the 860 |
| 16:13.54 | andersee | but doesn't want to pay ~$600 |
| 16:16.12 | treke|home | vvff: have you seen how freaking huge it is? |
| 16:16.25 | treke|home | it's a beast |
| 16:19.02 | CosmicPenguin | Anyone here see 24? |
| 16:19.22 | Twiun | nope |
| 16:19.37 | CosmicPenguin | chouimat did, I know |
| 16:19.47 | CosmicPenguin | Anyway, the bad guy was using this huge phone that had a full keyboard on it |
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| 16:21.27 | agupta | hey |
| 16:21.30 | agupta | kergoth: whats up |
| 16:25.13 | kergoth | nothing much, doing work things |
| 16:32.46 | agupta | cool |
| 16:32.52 | agupta | whats so great about this new SL-860 |
| 16:32.55 | agupta | seems pretty stupid to me |
| 16:32.59 | kergoth | no idea, looks the same as a c760 |
| 16:33.11 | agupta | they should have added usb2/host and bluetooth, wifi like they did with the 6000 |
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| 16:35.50 | Twiun | agupta: yup |
| 16:46.08 | schurig | kergoth: moin! |
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| 16:46.13 | kergoth | hey schurig |
| 16:46.15 | kergoth | hows it going? |
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| 16:46.27 | schurig | kergoth: good :-) |
| 16:46.33 | Twiun | hey schurig |
| 16:47.12 | schurig | kergoth: you wrote via ibot message "I've toyed with a version of patcher that integrates with a bk repository...". And, did it work for you? |
| 16:47.18 | schurig | Twiun: hey u2u2 |
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| 16:48.12 | Twiun | will they honour that price? |
| 16:48.28 | schurig | kergoth: I use the bk-enabled patcher almost dayly, for the bkpxa patches |
| 16:48.53 | kergoth | thats cool. how does yours work? |
| 16:49.08 | kergoth | the rough version I did just tracks a set of deltas independent of cset as a logical "patch" |
| 16:49.27 | kergoth | brb |
| 16:49.36 | fishhead | twiun sure they are discontinued |
| 16:49.41 | fishhead | it's closeout sale |
| 16:49.59 | Twiun | Ahhhh |
| 16:50.12 | fishhead | does the webpal arm cpu have enough power to do mp3 |
| 16:50.18 | Twiun | You can tell me... I'm not in the US ;) |
| 16:50.48 | schurig | kergoth: oh, then you did something very different. Mine just knows that it should do "bk get" and "bk edit". |
| 16:50.50 | fishhead | last time I shared a good sale on something everyone sucked it dry before I got a chance to order |
| 16:50.50 | fishhead | :/ |
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| 16:51.24 | schurig | kergoth: can you get mine from file:/usr/src/www/pxa250/patcher and incorporate your changes? |
| 16:52.15 | schurig | kergoth: ok, get it now, I just updated it with my last changes :-) |
| 16:53.29 | kergoth | yeah. i want to play with it some and iron out some kinks. the advantage of doing it this way is your patches changes are revision controlled, and you can use bk's merging capabilities. the pain is dealing with patch backup/apply if others apply deltas on top of your logical patch that arent a part of it :) in that case I have it generate a patch that should do what the user wants and it tries to pull them in via bk import, so if rejects occu |
| 16:53.48 | kergoth | I havent decided how best to handle associating merge only csets into or with the "patch" |
| 16:54.16 | kergoth | like i said, its only preliminary, a proof of concept to see if its viable |
| 16:54.22 | schurig | kergoth: i hope you make a good documentation with example. I just got only 20% of your description |
| 16:55.38 | schurig | going home now ... |
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| 17:08.35 | chouimat | <njaard> rikkus: well, bigboss hasn't been known for being reliable <rikkus> njaard: he's reliable - just not much work for me to do right now |
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| 17:34.16 | kergoth | hrmm |
| 17:34.22 | mickeyl|home | indeed. |
| 17:35.16 | treke|laptop | mickeyl|home: You still have your feed/images up |
| 17:35.38 | treke|laptop | ? |
| 17:35.54 | mickeyl|home | treke: the 5xxx stuff? no, everything wiped. needed the space. |
| 17:35.58 | treke|laptop | damn |
| 17:36.02 | mickeyl|home | whatcha need? |
| 17:36.06 | treke|laptop | an image/feed :p |
| 17:36.13 | treke|laptop | the one I built sounds like it didnt work |
| 17:36.18 | mickeyl|home | no feed, but there's a good OZ 3.2 + Opie 1.0.2 image |
| 17:36.35 | treke|laptop | url? |
| 17:36.50 | mickeyl|home | http://www.hentges.net/openzaurus/index.html |
| 17:37.06 | mickeyl|home | standard i18n is german, but i trust you to can change that ;) |
| 17:37.19 | treke|laptop | hehe |
| 17:37.40 | treke|laptop | maybe I'll try remote debugging my images |
| 17:37.50 | treke|laptop | 3.3 is much nicer than 3.2 : |
| 17:37.56 | mickeyl|home | sure |
| 17:38.07 | mickeyl|home | last images i built didn't work also |
| 17:38.09 | mickeyl|home | some weeks ago |
| 17:38.19 | treke|laptop | its weird, since the same stuff works fine on husky |
| 17:38.31 | mickeyl|home | yeah |
| 17:38.59 | mickeyl|home | maybe that's good. puts more pressure on us to get OE to a usable state... |
| 17:42.50 | CosmicPenguin | Stupid cross compiling |
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| 17:47.00 | fishhead | holy mother of canuck, they have a webpal version without a modem for $5.99 |
| 17:48.27 | twot | Anbdy can point me to a solution of a problem with building the kernel for the 750 in buildroot? (There the buildroot fails in getuser.S) |
| 17:48.46 | treke|laptop | Are you using gcc3? |
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| 17:48.55 | twot | Not 4 the kernel |
| 17:49.00 | treke|laptop | fishhead: Is it possible for you to say anything with using the word canuck? |
| 17:49.04 | treke|laptop | without |
| 17:49.36 | twot | I did not selct the gcc3-option |
| 17:49.44 | twot | (after I had lots of trouvle with it) |
| 17:49.52 | treke|laptop | and you are using 2.95.3? |
| 17:50.18 | twot | yes, 2.95.3 |
| 17:50.24 | twot | I just rechecked |
| 17:50.41 | treke|laptop | the original erikm tool chain? not one of the ones with updated binutils? |
| 17:51.31 | twot | Which is the original? I checked them out from the bk-rpository and did a bk -r co |
| 17:51.40 | treke|laptop | ? |
| 17:51.49 | treke|laptop | we dont have toolchains in bk |
| 17:51.59 | twot | Or do u refer to the compiler? |
| 17:52.07 | treke|laptop | yes. the compiler. |
| 17:52.10 | twot | K, yes i downloaded it from, wait... |
| 17:52.15 | Twiun | wasn't there an article on /. recently pointing to a howto build a raid array? |
| 17:53.13 | Twiun | Aha! |
| 17:53.18 | Twiun | Saved my life :) http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/11/11/1518242&mode=thread&tid=137&tid=198 |
| 17:53.22 | twot | http://openzaurus.org/official/toolchain/ |
| 17:53.27 | treke|laptop | twot: which one. |
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| 17:54.22 | twot | I downloaded both and put them under .../arm/3.3 and .../arm/2.95.3 |
| 17:54.27 | kergoth | "both" |
| 17:54.34 | kergoth | how nicely vague |
| 17:54.41 | kergoth | is that cross-2.95.3.tar.bz2 then? |
| 17:54.47 | kergoth | or one of hte subsequent revisions? |
| 17:55.01 | mickeyl|home | cross-2.95.3.tar.bz2 12-Nov-2002 12:02 34.6M tar archive |
| 17:55.02 | mickeyl|home | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:55.05 | twot | I didnt look in the unsupported-dir |
| 17:55.35 | twot | mickeyl|home: yes these 2 |
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| 17:56.32 | twot | kergoth: should be 2.95.3 |
| 17:56.34 | mickeyl|home | can't reproduce this. been building lots of images for the c750 with exactly those two |
| 17:56.44 | mickeyl|home | did you use shepherd-opie-gcc3 |
| 17:56.45 | mickeyl|home | ? |
| 17:56.50 | mickeyl|home | (that's the combined image) |
| 17:56.54 | mickeyl|home | .config even |
| 17:57.08 | twot | I got: |
| 17:57.08 | twot | /usr/bin/ccache arm-linux-gcc -D__ASSEMBLY__ -D__KERNEL__ -I/home/uno/devel/zaurus/buildroot/build/linux/include -mapcs-32 -march=armv4 -Wa,-mxscale -msoft-float -c -o getuser.o getuser.S |
| 17:57.08 | twot | getuser.S: Assembler messages: |
| 17:57.08 | twot | getuser.S:47: Error: Internal_relocation (type 210) not fixed up (OFFSET_IMM) |
| 17:57.28 | kergoth | echo USEFULLPATH=yes >> Vars.local |
| 17:57.31 | kergoth | then build it again |
| 17:57.41 | twot | thx |
| 17:57.47 | kergoth | that wont fix it |
| 17:57.49 | kergoth | itll just help debug |
| 17:57.56 | kergoth | paste the error again when it occurs |
| 17:59.07 | twot | will do. computers are slow... |
| 18:01.08 | twot | here u are: |
| 18:01.08 | twot | /usr/bin/ccache /usr/local/arm/2.95.3/bin/arm-linux-gcc -D__ASSEMBLY__ -D__KERNEL__ -I/home/uno/devel/zaurus/buildroot/build/linux/include -mapcs-32 -march=armv4 -Wa,-mxscale -msoft-float -c -o getuser.o getuser.S |
| 18:01.08 | twot | getuser.S: Assembler messages: |
| 18:01.08 | twot | getuser.S:47: Error: Internal_relocation (type 210) not fixed up (OFFSET_IMM) |
| 18:01.57 | twot | mickeyl|home: I used that configuration-sample-file |
| 18:02.12 | mickeyl|home | odd |
| 18:02.14 | mickeyl|home | compiler path is right |
| 18:02.17 | mickeyl|home | config file is right |
| 18:02.19 | mickeyl|home | hmm |
| 18:02.21 | mickeyl|home | what's left? |
| 18:02.23 | kergoth | make -C build/linux distclean |
| 18:02.24 | kergoth | then rebuild. |
| 18:02.35 | kergoth | mickeyl|home: old kernel bug, can happen such that a distclean will fix |
| 18:02.47 | mickeyl|home | kergoth: oh. never stumbled across that one |
| 18:03.30 | twot | Ok, I will do this but have to care 4 my girlfriend in between, so will try it from scratch @home. |
| 18:03.48 | mickeyl|home | hmmm |
| 18:03.54 | mickeyl|home | wishful thinking on my side probably |
| 18:04.14 | twot | mickeyl|home: ;-) |
| 18:04.30 | twot | perhaps, cu afterwards |
| 18:04.38 | treke|laptop | mickeyl|home: I dont imagine you should be wishing for 4 girlfriends. I doubt your wife would appreciate it |
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| 18:04.58 | mickeyl|home | treke: definitly true. she's pretty much into monogamy.... |
| 18:05.12 | mickeyl|home | hehe |
| 18:05.19 | kergoth | hehe |
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| 18:13.46 | chouimat | kergoth: how is 2.4.22 (on desktop?) |
| 18:13.55 | CosmicPenguin | So, let me get this straight |
| 18:14.08 | kergoth | chouimat: i've been using 2.4.22-ck1 for some time now, works fine |
| 18:14.12 | CosmicPenguin | Firebird wants GTK-1.X, which wants glib-1.X |
| 18:14.22 | treke|laptop | firebird can use gtk-2 |
| 18:14.22 | CosmicPenguin | But Firebird also wants libIDL, which wnats glib 2.x? |
| 18:14.30 | CosmicPenguin | bah |
| 18:14.32 | chouimat | kergoth: I'm using a suse kernel currently so ... |
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| 18:21.56 | treke|laptop | I always love it when I live to regret taking the easy route on a feature |
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| 18:22.30 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:22.30 | kergoth | hah |
| 18:23.13 | treke|laptop | we did the whole "look how perfectly this fits into this unrelated table, we'll just store stuff there" |
| 18:23.30 | kergoth | ack |
| 18:23.31 | kergoth | heh |
| 18:24.16 | treke|laptop | the schema for the table was perfect, now theres just this completely unrelated data in there that we have to figure out which thing it belongs to :p |
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| 18:44.03 | CosmicPenguin | treke|laptop: so have you cross compiled Firebird before? |
| 18:44.42 | treke|laptop | CosmicPenguin: nope. |
| 18:44.48 | treke|laptop | never had the stones |
| 18:44.58 | treke|laptop | though I've been tempted to try it for arm |
| 18:46.49 | CosmicPenguin | So far, its been hell |
| 18:46.51 | CosmicPenguin | But I'm on my way |
| 18:47.03 | CosmicPenguin | I just wish I didn't have to have both glib 1 and glib 2 built |
| 18:47.16 | treke|laptop | why not build just for gtk2? |
| 18:47.40 | CosmicPenguin | I'm going for size and speed |
| 18:48.04 | CosmicPenguin | I guess as long as I stay away from gnome, I'll be fine |
| 18:48.10 | CosmicPenguin | But I don't need to bother with aa or anything else like that |
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| 18:58.31 | treke|laptop | ljp: die |
| 18:58.43 | chouimat | lpotter: shaddap |
| 18:58.49 | lpotter | :) |
| 18:59.57 | treke|laptop | kergoth: btw, looks like there are prebuilt images for woody on the magnia |
| 19:01.38 | fishhead | so |
| 19:01.43 | fishhead | in perspective |
| 19:01.46 | fishhead | the webpal |
| 19:01.49 | fishhead | cirrus arm chip |
| 19:01.55 | fishhead | what would it be compared to in x86 |
| 19:01.56 | fishhead | speed etc |
| 19:02.11 | fishhead | I think it's worth the $10 + $10 ship but not 100% sure |
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| 19:09.35 | mickeyl|home | hi cmartin |
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| 19:31.52 | cmartin | hi mickeyl|home |
| 19:35.58 | fishhead | JMP |
| 19:36.01 | fishhead | JMP |
| 19:36.11 | fishhead | ASM WILL MAKE YA |
| 19:36.23 | fishhead | JMP |
| 19:36.34 | fishhead | JMP |
| 19:37.59 | CosmicPenguin | I believe that fishhead is a yippy bot |
| 19:38.11 | fishhead | heh |
| 19:47.03 | CIA | repository=03buildroot user=11wind@spiritship |
| 19:47.04 | CIA | 07ChangeSet@1.1380 add lupdate and lrelease. note - not building it. please use sym link. bleh |
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| 19:51.05 | kergoth | treke|laptop: url? |
| 19:51.11 | treke|laptop | dunno |
| 19:51.24 | treke|laptop | what url? |
| 19:52.24 | kergoth | woody on teh magnia |
| 19:52.37 | treke|laptop | ah. |
| 19:52.48 | treke|laptop | lemme dig it up. It was mentioned a bit on the yahoo group |
| 19:52.51 | kergoth | k |
| 19:54.31 | treke|laptop | hehe |
| 19:54.55 | lpotter | thats insane |
| 19:54.55 | treke|laptop | kergoth: there any closed source drivers used on the thing? |
| 19:55.26 | kergoth | treke|laptop: not afaik |
| 19:57.04 | treke|laptop | ah doh. the magnia uses 2.5 inch hard drives |
| 19:57.09 | kergoth | yep |
| 19:57.14 | Twiun | fully expected though - why do you think it took so long to build images? |
| 19:57.31 | treke|laptop | kergoth: oh well. Guess I wont toss a 100 gig drive in it :p |
| 19:58.02 | treke|laptop | no big loss |
| 19:58.37 | W8TVI | treke|laptop: run a cable out the back to a drive |
| 19:58.55 | W8TVI | it should fit out the cardbus slot |
| 19:59.16 | treke|laptop | W8TVI: not a big loss. My music collection fits in 3 gig of space |
| 19:59.27 | treke|laptop | the cardbus slot is going to be in use |
| 19:59.37 | W8TVI | treke|laptop: I have an irc channel for the magnias |
| 19:59.40 | W8TVI | #magnia |
| 19:59.42 | treke|laptop | if I need more space I can buy a new drive. |
| 19:59.58 | W8TVI | treke|laptop: it should fit just fine on the magnia |
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| 20:02.10 | CosmicPenguin | glib 2.0 and uclibc may never live in harmony |
| 20:03.57 | fishhead | bbl |
| 20:07.22 | CosmicPenguin | I lied |
| 20:10.46 | Twiun | how so? |
| 20:15.32 | CosmicPenguin | I found some patches online |
| 20:15.48 | Twiun | ahh |
| 20:15.52 | CosmicPenguin | maybe - they are for uclinux |
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| 20:38.47 | fishhead | <flyback-> okay the cat has already been let out of the bag so here is the link for the $9.99 arm based webpal |
| 20:38.47 | fishhead | <flyback-> Surpluscomputers.com |
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| 21:26.49 | ljp | arrrgg, someone put used paper in the printer feed |
| 21:26.58 | pb_ | heh |
| 21:29.52 | ljp | ya, it's all fun and games, until someone pokes an eye out |
| 21:30.15 | treke | then it becomes really funny |
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| 22:00.53 | prpplague | kergoth: getting pretty experienced with the touch screen dev? |
| 22:04.15 | kergoth | prpplague: quite. |
| 22:04.45 | ljp | can you make my 21: hitachi a ts device? |
| 22:04.47 | ljp | 21" that is |
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| 22:06.51 | mickeyl | http://openzaurus.org/unofficial/experimental/collie/2.4.18-rmk7-np2-embedix/ |
| 22:06.54 | mickeyl | what the hell is this? |
| 22:07.11 | mickeyl | and why do i become aware of it months after it has been put up...? |
| 22:08.04 | kergoth | heh, no idea |
| 22:08.08 | Twiun | ... and created by George-- of all people |
| 22:08.10 | kergoth | looks like a sharp 2.4.18 |
| 22:08.53 | prpplague | kergoth: got a ts project coming up |
| 22:09.03 | prpplague | kergoth: its a real weak point for me :( |
| 22:09.07 | mickeyl | README says it works on 5000d and there was just a guy in zaurus.com/dev/board who confirmed that it works on 5500 |
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| 22:13.32 | kergoth | prpplague: ah. what needs doing? |
| 22:15.40 | prpplague | kergoth: just basic support |
| 22:15.43 | prpplague | kergoth: kiosk stuff |
| 22:16.49 | kergoth | just rewrote the qte tslib handler |
| 22:16.50 | kergoth | heh |
| 22:17.34 | kergoth | did it properly this time |
| 22:17.39 | kergoth | ./configure -xplatform linux-arm-g++ -tslib |
| 22:17.42 | kergoth | heh |
| 22:18.43 | mickeyl | nice |
| 22:20.11 | ljp | ya, that 2.4.18 works on 5000d |
| 22:20.34 | mickeyl | so where did it came from, where's the .config and the patches and why isn't it in buildroot? |
| 22:20.41 | ljp | thats why I wondered and asked about a 2.4.18 in buildroot for the 5000d |
| 22:21.02 | ljp | dunno |
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| 22:21.21 | prpplague | kergoth: cool |
| 22:21.44 | prpplague | kergoth: just got to find the time to read and research it a little before i jump in |
| 22:22.09 | prpplague | kergoth: seems the ts battle has been fought before so i atleast should be able to learn something from the battle |
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| 22:23.11 | pb_ | lucky you joined the channel to tell us that. |
| 22:23.20 | mickeyl | actually, it wasn't me |
| 22:23.29 | mickeyl | my dircproxy in university |
| 22:23.32 | mickeyl | and we have network problems there |
| 22:23.34 | pb_ | ah, heh |
| 22:23.47 | mickeyl | so it just tries to join if it gets connected again... |
| 22:23.53 | mickeyl | dumb little thing :) |
| 22:24.17 | W8TVI | lol |
| 22:25.30 | kergoth | prpplague: i'd recommend using the input layer for the driver, and tslib in userspace for filtering |
| 22:25.57 | prpplague | kergoth: ok thanks, that should give me a place to start |
| 22:26.20 | kergoth | if you have questions let me know |
| 22:26.30 | kergoth | shouldnt be much to it |
| 22:26.54 | prpplague | kergoth: ok thanks |
| 22:26.59 | prpplague | kergoth: i appreciate it |
| 22:27.21 | prpplague | kergoth: really depressed about not getting to take the TI job |
| 22:30.04 | kergoth | prpplague: np. yeah, that sucks :\ |
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| 22:55.08 | chouimat | http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/61/33953.html |
| 22:55.10 | CosmicPenguin | gentoo ho! |
| 22:56.53 | chouimat | prpplague: anything new?\ |
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| 23:22.13 | kergoth | ugh |
| 23:22.19 | kergoth | every month i go to pay bills and cant find any stamps |
| 23:22.23 | kergoth | go buy a book of them |
| 23:22.29 | kergoth | rinse, repeat |
| 23:22.33 | treke|laptop | hehe |
| 23:22.36 | kergoth | so i've got like 5 lost books of stamps |
| 23:22.38 | kergoth | i dunno where they go |
| 23:23.19 | pb_ | yeah, same here. |
| 23:23.23 | kergoth | yea thats best |
| 23:23.37 | pb_ | I live in hope that one day I will find a huge stash of nearly-full books of stamps. |
| 23:23.45 | treke|laptop | Everything but rent gets payed online |
| 23:24.22 | kergoth | like 3 or 4 of mine dont have online payment. and phone payment works, but i dont feel like spending 3 hours on the phone when i can just write a few checksk |
| 23:24.25 | kergoth | heh |
| 23:24.33 | pb_ | heh |
| 23:24.35 | treke|laptop | hehehe |
| 23:24.38 | ljp | hang them on a magnet on your fridge |
| 23:24.50 | treke|laptop | technically I could do rent online, but I like getting a receipt |
| 23:24.51 | pb_ | I think I just have one bill each month that I need to write a cheque for now. |
| 23:25.25 | treke|laptop | bofa will write out a check for me if I set it up in online payment |
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