| 00:04.18 | treke|home | ok... I just built x11 a couple minutes ago and the damn thing worked |
| 00:04.21 | treke|home | now it doesnt |
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| 00:12.12 | ljp | x11 sux arse |
| 00:14.04 | fishhead | choiumat |
| 00:14.08 | fishhead | now for once CANUCK |
| 00:14.11 | fishhead | I agree with you |
| 00:14.18 | fishhead | both chics were damn hot |
| 00:14.27 | fishhead | on children of dune |
| 00:21.15 | W8TVI | you know what would be really geeky? |
| 00:21.32 | W8TVI | hooking an LCD to the serial port of the zaurus |
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| 00:34.58 | ljp | why not justcat /dev/random >> /dev/fb0 |
| 00:35.35 | W8TVI | na |
| 00:36.28 | ljp | its cool |
| 00:36.45 | W8TVI | hows that? |
| 00:37.27 | W8TVI | hm |
| 00:38.03 | W8TVI | how about cat /dev/random > /dev/ttyS0 |
| 00:38.15 | W8TVI | that looks funky |
| 00:38.19 | W8TVI | on my sg20 |
| 00:39.28 | W8TVI | hmmm... even cat /dev/random is interestion to the screen |
| 00:39.40 | W8TVI | over ssh |
| 00:41.16 | W8TVI | works like a system monitor on LSD |
| 00:41.21 | W8TVI | LCD on LSD |
| 00:43.25 | treke|home | wtf, x11 actually expects the .la's to exist |
| 00:47.07 | pb_ | it does? that sounds kind of suspicious. |
| 00:47.07 | pb_ | could just be some random libtool oddity I suppose |
| 00:47.29 | treke|home | pb_: I was misreading the error. It's looking for .la's in /usr/lib |
| 00:48.19 | treke|home | oh well. It was a productive day, I'll get further tomorrow |
| 00:48.33 | mewyn | cool! zaurus sl-5000 on MI-5! :) |
| 00:50.00 | pb_ | treke|home: ah, yeah, I ran into that too. |
| 00:50.22 | pb_ | what seems to happen is that each .la file contains "libdir=/usr/lib", and that's where it searches for .la files for dependencies. |
| 00:50.54 | treke|home | arg |
| 00:50.56 | pb_ | I think libtool needs to be taught to respect something like PKG_CONFIG_CROSS as well. |
| 00:51.29 | treke|home | I'm sure kergoth has a long list of things libtool should be taught to do |
| 00:51.37 | pb_ | hehe |
| 00:53.09 | kergoth | our libtool is patched to not pull libdir= out of .la files. |
| 00:53.14 | kergoth | you *did* build libtool-cross? |
| 00:54.28 | treke|home | kergoth: I've built it a dozen or so times today |
| 00:54.42 | treke|home | I'm not sure why, but every so often I need to rebuild it |
| 00:56.02 | kergoth | odd |
| 00:56.16 | treke|home | yeah, I'm wondering what's going on |
| 00:56.37 | kergoth | oh, make sure arm-linux-libtool exists in the autotools tree of hte packge you're building |
| 00:56.48 | kergoth | if it doesnt, and its 'libtool', it could behave oddly |
| 00:57.01 | kergoth | check the configure log to see if the libtoolize/aclocal/autoheader/automake/autoconf stuff succeeded |
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| 01:01.54 | ljp | does oz doing anythign special to the usb on suspend/? |
| 01:02.04 | kergoth | unloads the modules |
| 01:02.06 | treke|home | it removes the modules |
| 01:02.07 | kergoth | then reloads them on resume |
| 01:02.15 | treke|home | which is why it takes 15 seconds to suspend |
| 01:02.33 | ljp | I am seeing problems getting the desktop to see the interface if the z was suspended/resumed and put in the cradle |
| 01:02.50 | kergoth | ljp: which is alot better than watching the Z panic |
| 01:02.56 | ljp | works fine, if I cradle it from after a reboot |
| 01:02.57 | kergoth | ljp: which is what happens if you dont unload the modules |
| 01:03.43 | ljp | maybe I'm not waiting long enough then |
| 01:05.05 | ljp | why 15 secods? |
| 01:05.51 | kergoth | because usbd sucks? |
| 01:05.52 | kergoth | heh |
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| 01:08.52 | ljp | hmm. |
| 01:09.10 | ljp | do I remember a 2.4.18 working on a 5000d |
| 01:12.01 | ljp | is the ppm format for the kernel asciior raw? |
| 01:30.20 | treke|home | wonder what is up with bkbits |
| 01:32.09 | ljp | pretending to be sourceforge, perhaps |
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| 01:57.29 | Pixel_ | hey guys |
| 01:57.43 | Pixel_ | is bkbits.net down ? |
| 01:57.48 | kergoth | yep |
| 01:58.32 | Pixel_ | Argh... just got my linux image up and running again and pulled my zaurus out from the drawer.. |
| 01:58.36 | Pixel_ | Oh well... |
| 01:59.27 | Pixel_ | Any clue as to when it'll be up again ? |
| 01:59.43 | kergoth | when they fix it. |
| 01:59.52 | Pixel_ | Been down long ? |
| 02:00.16 | kergoth | most of the day, if not all day |
| 02:00.41 | Pixel_ | Okay... thought it might be some long term thing... |
| 02:00.54 | Pixel_ | Well.. i'll just try tomorrow :D |
| 02:00.58 | kergoth | i highly doubt that, the linux kernel devs would shit bricks |
| 02:00.59 | Pixel_ | Keep it cool |
| 02:01.07 | Pixel_ | hehe |
| 02:01.18 | Pixel_ | : waves |
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| 02:39.09 | masticator | sup dudes. |
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| 02:40.57 | treke|home | masticator: |
| 02:41.32 | masticator | sup. |
| 02:41.38 | treke|home | kergoth: finally figured out why opie todo pisses me off so much |
| 02:41.54 | masticator | hey am I crazy or does the qtopia phone edition interface look cleaner and more pda appropriate than standard Qtopia? |
| 02:42.06 | treke|home | masticator: nope,, not crazy |
| 02:42.14 | masticator | it looks WAY more space efficient |
| 02:42.19 | masticator | did they open source it? |
| 02:42.26 | masticator | I'd love to get OPIE to look like that |
| 02:42.37 | masticator | really clean, stripped down to the bare essentials |
| 02:42.44 | masticator | less widget wasteful |
| 02:43.08 | fishhead | heh |
| 02:43.09 | treke|home | kergoth: As soon as you check something off it just disappears from the screen. No real useful feedback |
| 02:43.12 | masticator | anyone seen that new HP 4350? looks slick |
| 02:43.25 | fishhead | I am trying to tweak pixil for a 486-100 8 meg of ram :) |
| 02:43.35 | fishhead | old laptop but has a nice 640x480 color lcd |
| 02:43.39 | masticator | I've never used pixil |
| 02:43.55 | fishhead | I might not use it I might go with normal microwindows |
| 02:44.05 | fishhead | since microwindows allows the use of svgalib |
| 02:45.37 | treke|home | Why bother with svgalib |
| 02:47.26 | treke|home | masticator: it still wastes quite a bit of space though |
| 02:47.46 | masticator | IBM engineer coming tomorow to bring me a new toy |
| 02:48.04 | masticator | treke: yes, but more efficiency is good. Qtopia is a total interface hog |
| 02:49.04 | treke|home | one of the screenshots I saw had this big ass scrollbar on it |
| 02:49.07 | masticator | bringing me a pSeries 615 with the new POWER 1.4Ggz processor running on linux |
| 02:49.15 | masticator | I've always wanted my own mini. |
| 02:49.50 | masticator | I only get it for 2 weeks, but still. |
| 02:59.18 | ljp | most of Qtopia phone will be gpl'd |
| 03:00.16 | chouimat | re |
| 03:00.36 | fishhead | ya know |
| 03:00.43 | chouimat | ? |
| 03:00.43 | fishhead | for all your canucks that say svgalib is dead |
| 03:00.52 | fishhead | it sure is nice for embedded and older systems |
| 03:00.52 | fishhead | :) |
| 03:01.09 | fishhead | it even has a 320x200x256 mode for a vga16 card |
| 03:01.20 | ljp | qtopia phone interface is especially nice, IMHO |
| 03:01.38 | fishhead | I am going to have to figure out how to shrink a 2.4 kernel seriously |
| 03:01.46 | fishhead | or something to get better performance on 8 meg of ram |
| 03:02.19 | chouimat | fishhead: you know it's part3 of the canuck conspiracy to take over the world, you know after legalicing marijuana and guay marriage ;) |
| 03:02.39 | fishhead | heh |
| 03:02.51 | fishhead | both of which are evil |
| 03:03.03 | fishhead | although I don't mind pot for terminally ill |
| 03:03.16 | chouimat | fishhead: bah |
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| 03:03.35 | fishhead | but seriously chouimat |
| 03:03.45 | fishhead | svgalib has a lot of life left in it after all :P |
| 03:04.21 | chouimat | I know ... hmmm I think I will take my last 'krusovice' tonight |
| 03:04.33 | fishhead | I wish I wasn't so sick |
| 03:04.35 | fishhead | :( |
| 03:05.15 | chouimat | and i will watch the wedding scene of Children of Dune on very slow motion .... ;) |
| 03:05.33 | fishhead | choimat you were right btw |
| 03:05.43 | fishhead | that chic is mad hot |
| 03:05.48 | fishhead | also the other chic is hot too |
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| 03:06.25 | chouimat | fishhead: yup I don't regret having bought the DVD |
| 03:08.22 | chouimat | fishhead: I don't why but I like that: http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0287839/Ss/0287839/CHILDOFDUNE_SCIFI_00064.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Brooks,%20Jessica%20(II) |
| 03:08.43 | fishhead | oh yeah |
| 03:08.46 | fishhead | I would "CANUCK" that |
| 03:08.47 | fishhead | :P |
| 03:09.14 | chouimat | hehe |
| 03:09.53 | fishhead | and I would call her back |
| 03:10.41 | chouimat | fishhead: this is the kind of girl that make a guy believe in Marriage once more |
| 03:10.49 | fishhead | yeah |
| 03:10.52 | fishhead | I am that way anyways |
| 03:10.55 | fishhead | but espically her |
| 03:11.48 | ljp | anyone know what -apcs-32 does? |
| 03:11.54 | ljp | err mapcs-32 |
| 03:12.14 | _Psycho_ | Hey chouimat i called my team in worms 3d from the women of dune =p hehe |
| 03:12.56 | chouimat | _Psycho_: I currently log on irulan, sheeana, alia, chani and jessica ... |
| 03:13.37 | chouimat | _Psycho_ probably the only time I can be 'log on' more than on 'girl' at once |
| 03:13.37 | _Psycho_ | Ghanima and Wesnisa(sp) was the 2 other of my team of 6 not sheeana thought hehe |
| 03:15.21 | chouimat | ok shower time ... |
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| 03:21.31 | chouimat | night |
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| 09:13.16 | zzoner | is there a general tutorial for embedded programming and embedded hardware? I'm an experience C programmer but I have absolutely no experience in anything hardware related |
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| 10:00.55 | Twiun | 'mornin |
| 10:02.04 | mickeyl | morning Twiun |
| 10:02.51 | Twiun | I've taken the day off work today... still ill from this weekend |
| 10:04.21 | mickeyl | what've you done? |
| 10:04.45 | Twiun | had the flu and a 38.3C fever on sunday morning |
| 10:05.16 | Twiun | not enough for the ambulance, but enough to keep me in bed |
| 10:05.52 | mickeyl | sucky |
| 10:06.22 | Twiun | yeah, a whole day of the computer ;) |
| 10:06.27 | Twiun | s/of/off/ |
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| 14:20.56 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 14:21.15 | mickeyl | did Sharp write an accellerated fb driver for QtE ? |
| 14:21.21 | mickeyl | (on the c7x0) |
| 14:21.33 | mickeyl | for the "normal" widgets |
| 14:21.36 | mickeyl | not video or so |
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| 14:38.47 | Twiun | no idea, but I sure hope they did - unaccelerated fb access is going to be slow |
| 14:39.55 | mickeyl | i wonder because of the recent post on openzaurus-devel |
| 14:40.16 | mickeyl | it does work, but it is about 30% slower than |
| 14:40.16 | mickeyl | the sharprom. " |
| 14:40.27 | mickeyl | so he said |
| 14:41.44 | Twiun | oh, he's talking about TkcROM 2.0 though |
| 14:42.31 | Twiun | maybe they've also not patched their kernel for the PXA250 bug? |
| 14:43.44 | Twiun | wb chouimax |
| 14:43.58 | chouimat | morning |
| 14:47.27 | mickeyl | no he talked about openzaurus |
| 14:47.33 | mickeyl | this is because i wondered |
| 14:48.06 | chouimat | ? |
| 14:50.14 | Twiun | did we ever have a 2.0 release? |
| 14:50.18 | Twiun | for the 5600? |
| 14:50.31 | mithro | yes sharp did write an accelerated drive for QtE |
| 14:51.00 | mithro | most of it was just hooking into stubs of AtiCore provided by Ati |
| 14:52.05 | chouimat | http://www.askmen.com/jokes/index.html |
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| 15:46.44 | chouimat | hi prpplague drw- |
| 15:50.53 | drw- | hey chouimat |
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| 16:28.42 | treke | nothing like showing up on monday morning and seeing a list of shit to do a mile long. |
| 16:28.58 | kergoth | it is monday morning, you cant be surprised |
| 16:28.59 | kergoth | heh |
| 16:29.08 | Twiun | ibot: monday |
| 16:29.09 | | monday is probably when everything breaks for no apparent reason, creating so many problems it takes you until friday to get back to normal. a good reason to want to go out and kill people, or a day that no work should be performed due to this phenomenon, or a day requiring the use of large amounts of drugs, or http://engrish.com/recent_detail.php?imagename=deadfriend.jpg&category=Clothing&date=2003-08-25 |
| 16:29.12 | chouimat | treke having nothing to do challenging for the next 3 weeks? |
| 16:29.21 | Twiun | wtf? |
| 16:29.33 | treke | tonight I think I'll have to hit up the opie-todo source and make it suck less. |
| 16:29.37 | kergoth | that monday factoid is getting bloated |
| 16:29.48 | Twiun | yeah - but that image is funny ;) |
| 16:29.59 | kergoth | work safe? |
| 16:30.05 | Twiun | yup |
| 16:30.08 | kergoth | k |
| 16:30.15 | Twiun | not mine, but funny |
| 16:33.51 | Twiun | nope, can't find it... hopefully there'll be some shapes hiding under UML |
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| 16:43.25 | Virusmaster | kergoth ? |
| 16:43.28 | chouimat | hi masticator |
| 16:43.39 | Twiun | hey masticator |
| 16:43.41 | Virusmaster | hi there :) |
| 16:43.42 | masticator | I got a new toy for you developers to play with. |
| 16:43.48 | Twiun | indeed? |
| 16:43.51 | masticator | oh yes. |
| 16:43.54 | Twiun | sounds intriguing :) |
| 16:44.05 | masticator | IBM p615 server |
| 16:44.15 | chouimat | masticator: grrrrr |
| 16:44.16 | masticator | 1.45 Ghz dual processor core |
| 16:44.24 | masticator | 4GB ram |
| 16:44.38 | masticator | lots of ulta320 scsi |
| 16:44.46 | masticator | I needs you to stress the box |
| 16:45.01 | masticator | so you can use it for openembedded development, at least for the next month. |
| 16:45.08 | Twiun | what's the arch? x86? |
| 16:45.13 | masticator | Power4 |
| 16:45.14 | masticator | IBM POWER |
| 16:45.18 | chouimat | masticator: GRRRRRRRRRR |
| 16:45.23 | masticator | think g5 on server steroids |
| 16:45.36 | masticator | the processor has 8mb of cache on it |
| 16:45.43 | masticator | with dual cpus on the chip |
| 16:45.46 | Twiun | masticator: can I offer it to the kaffe devs? |
| 16:45.51 | masticator | 64 bit |
| 16:45.53 | masticator | yes |
| 16:46.01 | masticator | by all means, java will stress it. |
| 16:46.19 | chouimat | masticator: the kind of computer that give you a stiffy :) |
| 16:46.52 | chouimat | but if you get that think about a computer ... you have a problem :) |
| 16:47.14 | Virusmaster | can someone tell me the difference between the Hostap kernel modules in the stable and the unstable feed? |
| 16:47.17 | Twiun | what's the OS? AIX? |
| 16:47.18 | masticator | I need developers to really hammer this sucker |
| 16:47.21 | masticator | linux |
| 16:47.25 | treke | Virusmaster: anything gives you a stiffy |
| 16:47.25 | masticator | redhat 3.0 AS |
| 16:47.30 | masticator | fresh off the press |
| 16:47.34 | treke | er that was for chouimat not Virusmaster |
| 16:47.43 | Virusmaster | treke :P |
| 16:48.35 | chouimat | treke: no not anything ... the prouf you don't give me one :P |
| 16:49.33 | Twiun | masticator: could you email me the access specifics? I'll forward it to kaffe individuals if you want |
| 16:49.35 | TheMasterMind1 | masticator: i want an account :) |
| 16:49.49 | chouimat | TheMasterMind1: did you watch yesterday Alias? |
| 16:50.04 | TheMasterMind1 | chouimat: yep |
| 16:50.17 | TheMasterMind1 | allison is invincible |
| 16:50.20 | masticator | twiun: have the people who want access email me at perlow@hotmail.com with their desired username and pass |
| 16:50.24 | chouimat | TheMasterMind1: I knew it |
| 16:50.27 | Twiun | masticator: will do |
| 16:50.34 | chouimat | k |
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| 16:50.53 | robilad | hi all |
| 16:51.10 | chouimat | treke: btw I was joking ... |
| 16:51.16 | Twiun | hey robilad |
| 16:51.31 | Twiun | robilad's a Kaffe developer ;) |
| 16:51.57 | robilad | hi masticator, Twiun told me about access to a ppc-linux box for some dev-ing ;) |
| 16:52.20 | TheMasterMind1 | its ppc? |
| 16:52.29 | masticator | its a power4 |
| 16:52.32 | masticator | 64-bit ppc |
| 16:52.35 | TheMasterMind1 | k |
| 16:52.36 | masticator | 32 bit compatible |
| 16:52.48 | kergoth | would be good to confirm the ppc->arm toolchain generation is happy |
| 16:52.54 | masticator | its like g5 on steroids |
| 16:53.02 | robilad | nice! i'd like to see how kaffe breaks on that beast ;) |
| 16:53.07 | kergoth | err, is bkbits.net *still* down? |
| 16:53.17 | masticator | so everyone email me your account info. |
| 16:53.22 | treke | kergoth: it was up last night |
| 16:53.26 | treke | kergoth: I pusshed to it |
| 16:53.38 | kergoth | hrm |
| 16:53.57 | chouimat | done |
| 16:54.18 | kergoth | Proxy could not open connnection to openembedded.bkbits.net: Server Error |
| 16:54.18 | kergoth | ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host |
| 16:54.20 | kergoth | hmm |
| 16:55.47 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: i can pull from it |
| 16:56.52 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: http, bkd, or ssh? |
| 16:57.12 | chouimat | kergoth: work here |
| 16:57.24 | kergoth | Server Error |
| 16:57.24 | kergoth | The following error occurred: |
| 16:57.25 | kergoth | Internal error. Try again. (RESOURCE_RECLAIMED) |
| 16:57.33 | kergoth | http://openembedded.bkbits.net/packages |
| 16:57.41 | kergoth | its like the bkd isnt runnong on the normal http port |
| 16:57.43 | TheMasterMind1 | i think http |
| 16:57.52 | kergoth | try going to that page in a browser |
| 16:57.53 | treke | kergoth: i just got through to it. odd |
| 16:57.58 | kergoth | werid |
| 16:58.03 | kergoth | could be our proxy being a pain or something |
| 16:58.12 | kergoth | which wouldnt be surprising |
| 16:58.14 | Twiun | kergoth: yeah, bk pull works ok for me too |
| 16:58.16 | treke | it runs on port 8080 |
| 16:58.18 | TheMasterMind1 | http works on 8080 |
| 16:58.25 | kergoth | .. |
| 16:58.27 | treke | which its always done afaik |
| 16:58.29 | kergoth | 8080 is browsable |
| 16:58.31 | kergoth | i'm talking about 80 |
| 16:58.35 | kergoth | which normally runs a bkd |
| 16:58.43 | kergoth | but right now is giving me a server error |
| 16:58.44 | kergoth | oddly enough |
| 16:58.51 | kergoth | grr |
| 16:58.56 | chouimat | kergoth bk pull work |
| 16:58.59 | treke | does it? I've always been forwarded to 8080 |
| 16:59.10 | kergoth | bk pull http://openembedded.bkbits.net/packages works |
| 16:59.10 | Twiun | kergoth: but pulling bk does it through 8080 (that's the port it's always been using too) |
| 16:59.13 | kergoth | becuase theres a bkd on port 80 |
| 16:59.34 | kergoth | no, it doesnt. |
| 16:59.43 | TheMasterMind1 | ibot oz bk |
| 16:59.50 | | i heard oz bk is bk clone bk://openzaurus.bkbits.net/buildroot buildroot-oz; cd buildroot-oz; bk -r co -q; cp def-configs/collie-opie .config (for zaurus 5000d/5500) .. make oldconfig; make; or see bitkeeper (free download but non-gpl) or see 'oz snapshot' if you either cannot or will not use bitkeeper. |
| 16:59.50 | kergoth | pull uses 80, the web browsable interface for viewing csets and shit is on 8080 |
| 17:00.12 | kergoth | http://openembedded.bkbits.net/ is a normal server instance on 80. if you click on a repos, it forwards you to the browsable interface at 8080 |
| 17:00.14 | TheMasterMind1 | laptop:/oe/packages# bk pull bk://openembedded.bkbits.net/packages |
| 17:00.14 | TheMasterMind1 | Pull bk://openembedded.bkbits.net/packages |
| 17:00.15 | TheMasterMind1 | works |
| 17:00.17 | kergoth | becuase 80 on a repos is a bkd |
| 17:00.27 | Twiun | kergoth: |
| 17:00.28 | Twiun | [twiun@tangency packages]$ bk pull |
| 17:00.29 | Twiun | Pull http://openembedded.bkbits.net:8080/packages -> file://home/twiun/oe/packages |
| 17:00.32 | Twiun | ---------------------- Receiving the following csets ----------------------- |
| 17:00.50 | treke | I just cloaned a repository off of that url. |
| 17:01.05 | treke | so something is working |
| 17:01.11 | chouimat | kergoth bk pull from http://openembedded@openembedded.bkbits.net/packages works here :) |
| 17:01.12 | masticator | btw I have a bigger and badder opteron coming in a few days as well that I can keep for longer |
| 17:01.17 | masticator | quad opteron |
| 17:01.23 | kergoth | http://openembedded.bkbits.net:8080/packages/src?nav=index.html |
| 17:01.28 | kergoth | ^^^-browsable interface, NOT BKD |
| 17:01.36 | chouimat | masticator: cool |
| 17:01.48 | treke | kergoth: so what is not working? |
| 17:02.03 | kergoth | obviously something specific to my operations here |
| 17:02.25 | Twiun | kergoth: they haven't given you a pipeline out of the place yet? |
| 17:02.28 | kergoth | Twiun: its probably just *showing* you that url so a foolish user doenst try opening the :80 url in their browser |
| 17:02.38 | Twiun | kergoth: ahhhh |
| 17:02.54 | kergoth | anyway |
| 17:03.49 | Twiun | kergoth: ssh tunnels or would that be a good way to get sacked? |
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| 17:10.56 | treke | definitly a monday |
| 17:11.23 | treke | the expense report fax system breaks after I submit the 200 dollar report, but fore the 550 dollar one |
| 17:11.26 | treke | arg |
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| 17:13.16 | mickeyl_ | no idea if my last post got through... repeating |
| 17:13.20 | mickeyl_ | kergoth: why is there some stuff in packages/tmp/* right after a fresh clone? |
| 17:18.33 | kergoth | mickeyl_: because i accidentally added files there. i put them in the gone file so they can be safely removed, but havent yet wiped the upstream repos and cloned a tree without them back up yet |
| 17:20.07 | mickeyl_ | kergoth: ah i see. ok |
| 17:20.43 | mickeyl_ | hmm |
| 17:20.47 | mickeyl_ | bkbits.net still has problems |
| 17:21.32 | kergoth | heh, you're having trouble too? |
| 17:21.44 | kergoth | treke and Twiun and chouimat dont, but i cant get in via http, bkd, or ssh |
| 17:22.24 | mickeyl_ | hmm.. sucky. i can clone, but i can't commit |
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| 17:23.33 | treke | chouimat: how can I get svn to spit out it's version number? |
| 17:24.58 | chouimat | treke: svn --version? |
| 17:25.18 | treke | doh. tried svn version, svn -v, -V, and --ver :p |
| 17:26.12 | chouimat | treke: hehe |
| 17:29.49 | kergoth | hmmm |
| 17:31.07 | kergoth | hmm, cant seem to get to bitmover.com either |
| 17:31.20 | kergoth | err nm, cant get to anything |
| 17:31.36 | fishhead | I swear if they shutdown bitkeeper I am going to go postal |
| 17:31.43 | fishhead | that thing has some damn nice legit uses |
| 17:32.05 | treke | fishhead: ... |
| 17:32.18 | treke | kergoth's proxy is fucked up, bitkeeper isnt going anywhere |
| 17:32.47 | kergoth | heh, the linux kernel devs would not be happy campers if it did |
| 17:32.50 | kergoth | not gonna happen |
| 17:33.03 | fishhead | oh I thought you were talking about bittorrent |
| 17:33.28 | treke | mcvoy was thinking of some kind of qt like licensing, wasnt he? |
| 17:42.41 | fishhead | http://www.technologyreview.com/articles/amato1103.asp |
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| 17:59.49 | Pixel_ | Hello. Aftere a complete buiild, where ind th buildroot-oz can i find the initrd.bin file and the updater.sh ? |
| 18:01.19 | mickeyl_ | did you make image ? |
| 18:01.47 | Pixel_ | yes |
| 18:02.28 | mickeyl_ | then it should come up in output/images/ |
| 18:02.33 | mickeyl_ | (the initrd.bin) |
| 18:02.38 | Pixel_ | okay :D |
| 18:02.41 | mickeyl_ | the updater.sh is not included in buildroot |
| 18:02.49 | mickeyl_ | grab it from openzaurus.org/unofficial/experimental/<machine> |
| 18:02.56 | Pixel_ | oki :D |
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| 18:07.49 | masticator | hey pixel |
| 18:07.59 | masticator | youre not the same pixel who lives in the LA area right |
| 18:08.01 | Pixel_ | Hello |
| 18:08.05 | masticator | and is freinds with my brother |
| 18:08.06 | Pixel_ | Yes thats corret |
| 18:08.10 | kergoth | masticator: have a ppc64->arm cross chain building |
| 18:08.13 | kergoth | masticator: zipping right along |
| 18:08.13 | Pixel_ | there is a long way to la from denmark |
| 18:08.23 | masticator | freaking mozilla takes a LONG time to build |
| 18:08.47 | kergoth | yep |
| 18:08.55 | masticator | thats going on too |
| 18:12.58 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1, chouimat: added you guys to the oe group, /home/oedev contains the gateway bk repositories and the bk binaries |
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| 18:13.11 | chouimat | kergoth_: huh? |
| 18:13.12 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1, chouimat: ln -sf /home/oe/bitkeeper/bk ~/bin/bk and add ~/bin to your PATH |
| 18:13.20 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1, chouimat: on the ppc box |
| 18:13.26 | chouimat | kergoth: ok |
| 18:14.34 | kergoth | s/\/home\/oe/\/home\/oedev/g |
| 18:17.04 | *** mode/#openembedded [+o kergoth] by ChanServ |
| 18:21.35 | kergoth | hey Twiun |
| 18:23.00 | CosmicPenguin | The Z5500 supports a headset and microphone right? |
| 18:26.25 | kergoth | woo! i can get to bkbits from ti again |
| 18:26.26 | treke | praise the kergoth |
| 18:26.26 | kergoth | i'm a the now? |
| 18:26.45 | Twiun | always were |
| 18:27.14 | CosmicPenguin | The Kergoth is kind, The Kergoth is wise |
| 18:27.35 | Twiun | The Kergoth is all, knows all. |
| 18:30.02 | gb2 | first there was nothing |
| 18:30.10 | gb2 | then there was kergoth |
| 18:30.40 | CosmicPenguin | And lo, he has brought forth the OE, and there was great cheering for the time of retribution was at hand |
| 18:31.07 | CosmicPenguin | And with his quiver of code he has smitten the CE demon, and there was peace across the land |
| 18:31.14 | W8TVI | then many teeth knashed at sharp |
| 18:31.29 | treke | on the morning of the sixth day he said "read the fucking manual", and it was good. |
| 18:31.39 | kergoth | lol |
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| 18:33.14 | kergoth | NOTE: import patch '/home/kergoth/packages/glibc/glibc-2.3.2-r0/10_cvs.patch' as '10cvs' |
| 18:33.17 | kergoth | odd |
| 18:33.20 | kergoth | Malformed UTF-8 character (unexpected end of string) at /home/kergoth/packages/tmp/staging/build/bin/patcher line 778, <DIFF> line 131. |
| 18:33.23 | kergoth | Malformed UTF-8 character (unexpected end of string) in substitution (s///) at /home/kergoth/packages/tmp/staging/build/bin/patcher line 778, <DIFF> line 131. |
| 18:33.26 | kergoth | hmmmm |
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| 18:35.24 | Twiun | has someone been editting our stuff in word?? |
| 18:36.08 | kergoth | hehe |
| 18:42.14 | kergoth | heh, its hanging on that patch :( |
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| 18:52.16 | TheMasterMind1 | ooh, x11 |
| 18:53.57 | treke | ? |
| 18:58.31 | TheMasterMind1 | x11-cvs.oe |
| 18:58.31 | kergoth | doh, python's glob.glob() cant handle bash-like {} expansion |
| 18:58.47 | TheMasterMind1 | and xfree86.oe |
| 18:59.09 | kergoth | treke: you get anywhere with the .la issue last night? |
| 18:59.50 | treke | kergoth: didnt try to hard. was tired of woking on oe :p |
| 19:00.03 | kergoth | hehe |
| 19:00.06 | kergoth | know how that is |
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| 19:00.51 | treke | spent a good chunk of the weekend dicking with oe :p |
| 19:01.17 | kergoth | the main issue right now is that i havent completed the upgrades to latest auto* in all the builds |
| 19:01.23 | kergoth | some have failing calls still |
| 19:01.30 | kergoth | which makes them explode randomly :) |
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| 19:17.42 | kergoth | 13:18 < skuld> slackware doesnt even have images for scsi drives... they're so archaic I sometimes fear I'll launch an IRC |
| 19:17.45 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:21.24 | W8TVI | 'couse that kitkat isn't a kistkat |
| 19:21.27 | W8TVI | :) |
| 19:22.08 | kergoth | err, i seem to have lost my requiem for a dream soundtrack |
| 19:22.09 | kergoth | hm |
| 19:24.16 | CosmicPenguin | My dreams don't normally have soundtracks |
| 19:24.29 | CosmicPenguin | Unless, of course its "bad 70s porn" sountracks |
| 19:24.29 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: have you seen that movie? |
| 19:24.32 | CosmicPenguin | I have |
| 19:24.38 | kergoth | i love it |
| 19:24.39 | gb2 | i still need to see it |
| 19:24.46 | gb2 | i almost bought it while i was in best buy |
| 19:24.52 | gb2 | but it was bundled with pi |
| 19:24.55 | gb2 | which i already own |
| 19:25.04 | kergoth | ah, bought that bundle |
| 19:25.09 | kergoth | hadnt seen pi before :) |
| 19:25.12 | kergoth | thats a good one ttoo |
| 19:25.20 | gb2 | now i'm craving pie |
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| 19:59.50 | Twiun | wb mickeyl |
| 20:00.05 | Twiun | what's the status on the wiki? |
| 20:00.14 | mickeyl | hi Twiun |
| 20:00.22 | mickeyl | no idea, i'm not involved in handhelds.org |
| 20:00.26 | mickeyl | treke ? |
| 20:00.28 | mickeyl | pb ? |
| 20:00.34 | pb_ | mickeyl: yo |
| 20:00.53 | treke | wiki was fixed on saturday or sunday |
| 20:01.04 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 20:01.05 | mickeyl | "Wiki is undergoing maintenance" |
| 20:01.08 | treke | oops |
| 20:01.10 | mickeyl | is not my idea of a fix :) |
| 20:01.20 | lpotter_ | how did you fix it? |
| 20:01.30 | treke | lpotter_: Just exported the data and created a new db |
| 20:01.31 | Twiun | placeholder page it looks like |
| 20:01.32 | mickeyl | bbl |
| 20:01.39 | lpotter_ | hmm |
| 20:01.42 | lpotter_ | cool |
| 20:01.53 | Twiun | mickeyl: argh no... ok, I'll chat to you tomorrow - got feedback from the designer |
| 20:02.05 | treke | if ( $REMOTE_ADDR != "4.41.64.109") |
| 20:02.06 | treke | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:02.09 | treke | :p |
| 20:02.30 | treke | try it now |
| 20:03.01 | lpotter_ | <treke> works here, don;t know what all your problems are |
| 20:03.26 | Twiun | treke: PHP warnings on the RecentChanges page |
| 20:04.28 | treke | apparently that's been there for a while. |
| 20:04.46 | lpotter_ | thats one of the pages that caused the db crash |
| 20:05.08 | Twiun | still up |
| 20:05.17 | W8TVI | http://www.kevinandkell.com/2001/strips/kk20011111.gif |
| 20:05.20 | pb_ | yeah, it only crashes when ljp tries to use it. |
| 20:05.31 | lpotter_ | not crashing ow |
| 20:05.33 | lpotter_ | now |
| 20:05.44 | pb_ | oh, you've lost your touch |
| 20:06.01 | pb_ | that's too bad. |
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| 20:57.41 | chouimat | missed something? |
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| 20:59.18 | masticator | I feel like he-man. |
| 20:59.26 | masticator | By the POWER of IBM! |
| 20:59.29 | kergoth | hehe |
| 20:59.54 | masticator | we shall defeat the evil Darl! |
| 21:00.05 | chouimat | ok masticator is now with big green cat |
| 21:00.26 | masticator | I thought he had She-Ra. |
| 21:00.55 | chouimat | masticator: i don't watch every saturday morning so ... |
| 21:01.33 | masticator | wait, they have a new He-Man? |
| 21:01.45 | masticator | I'm talking about the one from like 15 years ago |
| 21:01.55 | chouimat | yes they redid the series last year |
| 21:02.20 | chouimat | masticator: it's basicaly the same ... the drawing are nicer |
| 21:02.27 | masticator | yeah I was a bit old to be watching the series back then but my little brother collected the toys |
| 21:02.50 | chouimat | masticator: i actualy prefer X-Men Evolution ... |
| 21:04.06 | masticator | I like the new justice league on cartoon network |
| 21:04.16 | masticator | they dont show new ones too often though |
| 21:04.19 | masticator | so I tivo them |
| 21:04.22 | chouimat | hehe |
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| 21:07.42 | CIA | repository=03packages user=11mickey@allanon.vanille.de |
| 21:07.43 | CIA | 07ChangeSet@1.304 add bindir-libdir patch for python |
| 21:09.49 | kergoth | yay for making buildsystems sane, eh mickeyl? :) |
| 21:10.06 | mickeyl | absolutely :D |
| 21:10.25 | ljp_ | hmm. sane.. buildsystem.. same sentence.. very odd |
| 21:12.56 | CosmicPenguin | Knowledge of one precludes knowledge of the other |
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| 21:13.33 | kergoth | hehe |
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| 21:42.46 | chouimat | masticator: I want one :) the p615 |
| 21:46.30 | Virusmaster | little question: how do i feel when a flash memory (like inside a CF Card or inside the Zaurus) is "dying"? |
| 21:46.47 | CosmicPenguin | sad? |
| 21:47.09 | treke | I always feel a bit of sadistic pleasure |
| 21:47.20 | CosmicPenguin | maybe a little hungry too |
| 21:47.31 | Virusmaster | that too :) but how do i notice it? :) |
| 21:47.47 | treke | when it stops working. |
| 21:48.06 | kano | doesnt the zaurus have a flash check in the diag screen |
| 21:48.21 | kano | also the kernel may log failed writes? |
| 21:48.30 | Virusmaster | does it simply stop working or are there some artefacts too... like files simply disapearing? |
| 21:48.34 | treke | kano: iirc that checks the flash by competely wiping it, including part so the boot loader :p |
| 21:48.48 | kergoth | I DONT WANT PLUMP LIPS |
| 21:48.49 | kergoth | damn spam |
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| 21:48.53 | Virusmaster | :) |
| 21:48.55 | mickeyl | lol |
| 21:49.04 | ljp | plump libs? |
| 21:49.23 | treke | gcc3 will give you that. |
| 21:49.39 | fishhead | any suggestions for linux on a 486-100 with 8 meg of ram |
| 21:49.49 | treke | debian? |
| 21:49.53 | fishhead | specific embedded linux's ? |
| 21:49.56 | fishhead | mabye ulibc ? |
| 21:50.00 | chouimat | kergoth: plump lips without a chick behind it ... are worthless |
| 21:50.04 | kergoth | chouimat: damn right |
| 21:50.37 | chouimat | kergoth: did some test and the ppc64 binary are not so big |
| 21:50.43 | treke | you know the world has gone to hell when people now consider "embedded" what they once called "desktops" |
| 21:50.49 | kergoth | treke: hehe |
| 21:50.50 | kergoth | true that |
| 21:51.02 | fishhead | did you guys hear |
| 21:51.10 | fishhead | M$ might use PPC for xbox2 |
| 21:52.08 | chouimat | treke: look what did you expect after that some people consider "sex" talking dirty on irc |
| 21:53.16 | treke | chouimat: you can make anything seem dirty on irc. |
| 21:53.48 | treke | it's one of your skills |
| 21:54.00 | chouimat | treke: hehe |
| 21:54.23 | kergoth | s/recall's/recalls/ |
| 21:54.33 | treke | the praise was pretty bad also |
| 21:54.39 | kergoth | yea |
| 21:54.43 | chouimat | kergoth: i miss that bot |
| 21:54.56 | kergoth | fortune and russian roulette rocked |
| 21:55.02 | kergoth | but made us waste more time than usual |
| 21:55.02 | treke | I miss the south park quotes |
| 21:55.05 | kergoth | yeah |
| 21:55.06 | chouimat | kergoth: and it's was the stock lart from a british guy |
| 21:55.21 | treke | no wonder. the british are wierd. |
| 21:55.26 | treke | pb_: no offense |
| 21:55.44 | chouimat | treke: I didn't touch anything ... except putting it online ... |
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| 22:03.03 | ljp | so, what was 'embedded' when desktops had 8mb ram?! |
| 22:03.24 | vvff | Umm. 8k? |
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| 22:12.09 | kergoth | kano: changeset 1.298 fails to receive due to a missing parent id timh@host10.kano.org.uk|ChangeSet|20031101230907|16151 which isnt in my tree |
| 22:12.19 | kergoth | kano: changeset 1.301 fails to receive due to missing keys in the id cache |
| 22:12.32 | kergoth | you forget to send me 1.297 perhaps? |
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| 22:16.31 | kano | hmm |
| 22:19.11 | kano | sent it, but it is empty, prolly me screwing up bk |
| 22:20.14 | kergoth | nah, it was an empty merge cset |
| 22:20.15 | kergoth | that happens |
| 22:20.23 | kergoth | automatic merge occurred, but didnt actually need to *do* anything |
| 22:21.14 | kergoth | hmm |
| 22:21.25 | kergoth | something is strange with it though, says its missing a checksum line |
| 22:21.40 | kergoth | kano: oh just send me an sshv1 public key (ssh-keygen -t rsa1) |
| 22:21.54 | kergoth | kano: you've sent enough changes to justify my lazy ass giving you push access |
| 22:22.07 | treke | ha |
| 22:25.19 | fishhead | virus this you pos |
| 22:25.54 | treke | someone hasnt been taking his pills |
| 22:27.07 | kergoth | fishhead: stop the hostility, i have no patience for your bs on a monday |
| 22:27.07 | CosmicPenguin | Or any day that falls within 4 days of a monday |
| 22:30.19 | ljp | since when is kergoth a doctor? |
| 22:32.09 | ljp | ohhhh.. patience.. not patients |
| 22:32.11 | masticator | kergoth isnt a doctor but he has had his share of shots |
| 22:32.11 | chouimat | ljp: QT for Expresso machine? |
| 22:32.16 | kergoth | masticator: hey, what was the url you had for ordering a decent absinthe again? |
| 22:32.24 | masticator | ah |
| 22:32.42 | chouimat | kergoth: I have some left here |
| 22:32.52 | kergoth | chouimat: i dont think that helps me |
| 22:33.02 | masticator | http://www.absintheonline.com/ |
| 22:33.07 | ljp | absinthe killed edgar allen poe |
| 22:33.16 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: Maxim had a good absinthe article a few months ago |
| 22:33.18 | masticator | thats not just a decent absinthe thats an awesome one |
| 22:33.28 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: oh really? |
| 22:33.30 | masticator | and I have tried vintage stuff from the 19th century |
| 22:33.53 | kergoth | I've never tried it, just going on recommendations to do so |
| 22:33.53 | kergoth | heh |
| 22:33.55 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: not that it helps you here, but they reviewed a couple of them - you might be able to find it online |
| 22:34.19 | kergoth | i bet it was right between when the subscription ran out and i ordered a new one too |
| 22:34.22 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:34.29 | masticator | absithe gives you a strange freakin buzz |
| 22:35.27 | kano | kergoth> nothing like being lazy :) |
| 22:35.44 | kergoth | :) |
| 22:35.47 | masticator | you been watching "carnivale" |
| 22:35.55 | masticator | they use absinthe on that show a lot |
| 22:37.06 | kano | kergoth> are you going to apply those patches, or shall I push them back? if so I will clean up and re-generate them |
| 22:37.48 | kergoth | kano: i only applied 1.295 and 1.296, push the rest |
| 22:38.03 | kergoth | kano: key's in, run bk parent openembedded@openembedded.bkbits.net:packages |
| 22:38.09 | kergoth | then bk pull and bk push |
| 22:39.17 | masticator | the 3rd season is due out soon on dvd |
| 22:40.00 | treke | eilers is porting opie to osx? |
| 22:40.01 | treke | wtf |
| 22:40.08 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:40.27 | kano | masticator> just watched the entire season tonight :) |
| 22:40.58 | kergoth | gb2: ping |
| 22:41.23 | kergoth | gb2: thinking we should change the --program-prefix= calls in our cross packages to ${CROSS} rather than ${TARGET_SYS}-, so the user can easiliy manipulate the prefix |
| 22:41.32 | kergoth | gb2: opinion? |
| 22:42.53 | treke | :q! |
| 22:47.23 | treke | rt3 is back up |
| 22:47.38 | treke | had a dumb mismatched modperl and perl :p |
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| 22:48.09 | fishhead | kergoth I was making a statement against a virus writer |
| 22:48.15 | treke | apparently a glibc 2.3 and perl 5.8 mod_perl doesnt work well on a glibc 2.2 and perl 5.6 system |
| 22:51.57 | kano | is it possible to push just a specific changeset with bk? |
| 22:52.28 | kergoth | nope |
| 22:52.35 | kergoth | but, you can have two trees |
| 22:52.40 | kergoth | and use bk send/bk receive between them |
| 22:52.54 | mickeyl | you can even set them up to use hardlinks if you're short on storage |
| 22:53.06 | kergoth | cd treewithabunchofcsets; bk send -rcsetnum - | (cd ../treeforpushing; bk receive -avv) |
| 22:53.13 | kergoth | yeah, use bk clone -l |
| 22:53.18 | kergoth | i use it on every local tree |
| 22:53.24 | chouimat | ARRRRGGGGGG |
| 22:53.31 | kergoth | bk clone -l localtree1 localtree2 |
| 22:53.32 | kergoth | heh |
| 22:54.22 | chouimat | kergoth: I was watching Babylon5 and they switched before I saw the conclusion of the episode .. about 2minutes left |
| 22:55.23 | chouimat | kergoth: so now I want to kill someone |
| 22:55.28 | treke | hehe |
| 22:55.45 | treke | season 4 is coming out in january |
| 22:55.56 | masticator | I so want that |
| 22:55.58 | masticator | I have the first 3 |
| 22:56.03 | gb2 | me too |
| 22:56.12 | treke | same here. I've seen a couple episodes of season 4 though |
| 22:56.12 | gb2 | season 5 of stargate comes out in january too |
| 22:56.13 | masticator | no one listen to zathras. |
| 22:56.19 | masticator | either way, it is bad for zathras. |
| 22:56.24 | treke | gb2: does it? Havent seen that either |
| 22:56.39 | gb2 | i've seen every episode of sg1 |
| 22:56.55 | chouimat | masticator: it was the episode when Byron rebellion ends |
| 22:56.55 | treke | gb2: I've seen everything through season 4 |
| 22:56.55 | gb2 | i think i've missed 2-3 of babylon 5 |
| 22:57.09 | gb2 | treke: you can get 5-6-7 on bittorrent |
| 22:57.14 | treke | gb2: scifi was showing them every monday in order, so I cought them there |
| 22:57.30 | gb2 | scifi went through season 5 |
| 22:57.30 | treke | caught |
| 22:57.36 | chouimat | gb2: Z is showing them in french since 2000 ... |
| 22:57.40 | treke | ah, so maybe I saw season 5 |
| 22:57.46 | gb2 | season 6 is in syndication on fox right now |
| 22:57.55 | gb2 | treke: did you see through daniel ascending? |
| 22:58.02 | treke | nope. |
| 22:58.10 | gb2 | you probably missed season 5 then. |
| 22:58.13 | chouimat | gb2: yup |
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| 22:58.15 | gb2 | they showed it in september |
| 22:58.36 | treke | probably seen one or two episodes of it |
| 22:58.39 | gb2 | scifi started doing this, did 1-4, then 1-5, now it's in about season 2 |
| 22:58.47 | gb2 | on their third loop through |
| 22:59.06 | chouimat | gb2: NBC (IIRC) cable 43 here is showing stargate with jonas every saturday at 7h00pm |
| 22:59.08 | treke | I usually catch tv shows on dvd |
| 22:59.32 | gb2 | chouimat.. ah. i guess it isn't just fox that picks up the syndicated shows. |
| 23:00.08 | chouimat | gb2: they show last year ( that global showed at 7h00am every saturday :( ) |
| 23:00.29 | gb2 | i need to see if i can get my mythtv to record Enterprise this week |
| 23:00.31 | fishhead | hey chouimat |
| 23:00.36 | gb2 | since i'm going to the matrix that night |
| 23:00.48 | gb2 | it failed to record it last time i told it to |
| 23:01.14 | chouimat | gb2: I will stay home tonight ... will watch Farscape and maybe Event Horizon or UHF on DVD |
| 23:01.19 | Twiun | g'night guys |
| 23:01.21 | fishhead | choumay |
| 23:01.23 | kergoth | night Twiun |
| 23:01.24 | fishhead | you like farscape |
| 23:01.27 | gb2 | heh |
| 23:01.32 | chouimat | night Twiun |
| 23:01.35 | gb2 | how many seasons did farscape run for? |
| 23:01.37 | chouimat | fishhead hmmm? |
| 23:01.37 | fishhead | 4 |
| 23:01.38 | kergoth | farscape is great |
| 23:01.45 | fishhead | they cut off season 4 in the middle of a clifhanger |
| 23:01.46 | gb2 | and the first two are out on dvd, hrm. |
| 23:01.48 | fishhead | sci fi is such fags |
| 23:01.58 | fishhead | they should have cut the final episode 5 mins early |
| 23:02.02 | chouimat | gb2: in french so It's season 3 .. |
| 23:02.03 | fishhead | it would have ended happily |
| 23:02.11 | fishhead | and they could have picked it back up if they wanted to |
| 23:02.53 | gb2 | i thought it got canceled for reasons outside scifi's control |
| 23:03.04 | fishhead | scifi said they couldn't afford it |
| 23:03.12 | fishhead | dummb c*** that runs sci fi |
| 23:03.22 | fishhead | yet they can keep buying up failed shows that failed everywhere else |
| 23:03.29 | gb2 | at the time that may have been true |
| 23:03.59 | gb2 | it wasn't until about 6 months later that scifi started being profitable |
| 23:04.05 | fishhead | gb2 hmm |
| 23:04.17 | fishhead | I got like over 100 VHS tapes I need to convert to VCD |
| 23:04.23 | fishhead | many farscape episodes |
| 23:04.36 | fishhead | but I need to get my new vcr fixed |
| 23:04.38 | fishhead | :/ |
| 23:04.45 | gb2 | scifi is now under the GE empire |
| 23:04.58 | fishhead | is that good or bad ? |
| 23:05.07 | gb2 | probably good |
| 23:05.14 | fishhead | cool |
| 23:05.21 | gb2 | there were comments that it gives them a much stronger legal department |
| 23:05.42 | kano | ok, lame question, is it possible to see what bk push will do? I am being extra careful |
| 23:06.29 | kergoth | kano: bk changes -L |
| 23:07.21 | treke | too many dvds, too little money |
| 23:08.38 | gb2 | too many dvds, too little shelf space |
| 23:08.45 | treke | that too |
| 23:09.13 | kergoth | hmm |
| 23:09.42 | kergoth | need two types of calibration modules. first is the actual core calibration algorithm, of which only one can be loaded at a time |
| 23:09.58 | kergoth | second is a module which uses the calib data to output things like thresholds for filters |
| 23:10.09 | kergoth | of which any number can be loaded |
| 23:11.04 | TheMasterMind1 | heh. module dependencies and conflicts trees |
| 23:11.21 | kergoth | ts_calibrate(struct tsdev *ts, int (*ts_calibrate_callback)(struct tsdev *ts, enum calstate)); or something |
| 23:11.55 | kergoth | where calstate reflects the calibration state machine, whether we're requesting an event, reporting failure, or notifying of completion |
| 23:12.38 | chouimat | grrr |
| 23:12.53 | kergoth | actually, that could be in a supplementary library if need be. libtscal or something |
| 23:13.06 | kergoth | with a linkage function to hook in the struct tsdev we're using |
| 23:13.31 | kergoth | then you could easily switch between any number of calibration algorithms.. 3 point, 5 point, whatever |
| 23:13.34 | kergoth | heh |
| 23:15.19 | CosmicPenguin | 10 point? :) |
| 23:15.34 | kergoth | yeah, whatever. the more data it can collect, the more accurate itll be |
| 23:15.47 | kergoth | if the user is willing to go through a more complecated setup, they can optionally increase their accuracy |
| 23:15.53 | kergoth | make it a selectable option in the calibrate UI |
| 23:16.19 | CosmicPenguin | do you have the capability to verify calibration with additional points? |
| 23:16.30 | CosmicPenguin | or I guess that would be a UI function |
| 23:16.56 | kergoth | yeah, after the calibration lib reports back a success event, you could do ts_read calls and see if it feels sane |
| 23:17.29 | CosmicPenguin | I think that CE continues taking samples until the numbers match |
| 23:17.35 | kergoth | although, it wouldnt be a bad idea for the calib algo module to be able to supply a sanity check function |
| 23:17.40 | kergoth | yep, qtopia does that too |
| 23:17.53 | kergoth | it runs a sanity check after each completion, adn if it isnt sane, starts over |
| 23:18.24 | CosmicPenguin | The old pixil one did too - but I haven't added that to the new one |
| 23:18.25 | kergoth | anyway, since sanity checking *may* involve the original values (i.e. to check if the calibration data fits a rectangle within a certain tolerance) |
| 23:18.31 | kergoth | and *may* depend on the algo in question |
| 23:18.38 | kergoth | not quite sure the best way to deal with that |
| 23:19.34 | CosmicPenguin | I'm here to cause issues... :) |
| 23:19.36 | kergoth | maybe just allow an algo module to supply a basic sanity checker |
| 23:19.44 | kergoth | but the user could of course do their own checks above and beyond that |
| 23:20.23 | kergoth | i'd like to run this by schurig and mallum, since schurig worked on the opie calibrate2, and mallum dealt with tslib calibration under X issues |
| 23:28.37 | chouimat | any bittorrent server? |
| 23:30.32 | gb2 | i found one with all of sg1 season 5 6 and the first half of 7 |
| 23:30.50 | chouimat | gb2: url? |
| 23:30.58 | gb2 | lemme see if i have it on my laptop |
| 23:31.20 | chouimat | I never used bittorrent so I need a server to test it |
| 23:31.33 | kergoth | chouimat: suprnova.org |
| 23:31.34 | kergoth | heh |
| 23:31.50 | gb2 | http://jupiter2000.ods.org:6969/ |
| 23:32.22 | gb2 | this is the stargate sg1 one |
| 23:37.07 | kergoth | oh well |
| 23:37.28 | CIA | repository=03oe user=11mickey@allanon.vanille.de |
| 23:37.28 | CIA | 07ChangeSet@1.305 use oenote to give information about qmake var substitution |
| 23:38.32 | kergoth | mickeyl: out of curiosity, why do we need makefile generation time subst, rather than make run time overridding? |
| 23:39.44 | mickeyl | kergoth: because of qmake itself using these information while building the file. e.g. i don't want to mimick qmake's use of scopes (contains...) |
| 23:40.01 | kergoth | ah |
| 23:40.14 | mickeyl | qmake can do complicated things - we can't or don't want to do that :) |
| 23:40.14 | kergoth | so things like CONFIG and the like, since we dont use an include.pro? |
| 23:40.17 | mickeyl | yep |
| 23:40.20 | kergoth | k |
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| 23:41.48 | mickeyl | kergoth: oh and btw., your hint with ' "A=B" "C=D" "D=E"' works nice except when there are spaces in the substitutions, e.g. ' "CONFIG=qt warn_off release" ' is too heavy for the parser |
| 23:42.09 | kergoth | hmm, that *should* work |
| 23:42.28 | kergoth | since "CONFIG=qt warn_off release" ends up as argv[whatever] in qmake |
| 23:42.34 | kergoth | maybe it cant parse that happily |
| 23:42.45 | mickeyl | i'll check in libsip which is a use case for that tomorrow. if you like, you can play around with that |
| 23:43.10 | kergoth | and we dont support \' or \" in the oe parsing, so who knows whatd happen if you tried to quote the right side in addition to its entirety |
| 23:43.13 | kergoth | heh |
| 23:43.13 | kergoth | k |
| 23:52.12 | chouimat | http://science.slashdot.org/science/03/11/03/2258257.shtml?tid=129&tid=134&tid=188 <---- I don't know if it's cool or not |
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